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Re: [GB] DSA Dolch ISO + Expansions/DSA RGBY/DSA DOLCH Blank Sets
« Reply #150 on: Fri, 21 June 2013, 19:19:33 »
I got my fingers crossed for go word from otd.kr!!! I mentioned that spacebar cause it was in Retro DSA GB and I forgot to get one for my G80 1865 and would like to get one with this set up... Here's to hope!
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« Reply #151 on: Sat, 22 June 2013, 01:35:38 »
6u is also good for custom keyboards :)

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« Reply #152 on: Sat, 22 June 2013, 08:49:57 »
6u is also good for custom keyboards :)
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Re: [GB] DSA Dolch ISO + Expansions/DSA RGBY/DSA DOLCH Blank Sets
« Reply #153 on: Sat, 22 June 2013, 15:30:02 »
I am surprised that only 13 people so far ordered iso kits.

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« Reply #154 on: Sat, 22 June 2013, 15:43:09 »
Me too, where is the love guys? Get up on dat iso!

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« Reply #155 on: Sat, 22 June 2013, 19:33:56 »
I ordered one and I don't even own a iso board...
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Re: [GB] DSA Dolch ISO + Expansions/DSA RGBY/DSA DOLCH Blank Sets
« Reply #156 on: Sat, 22 June 2013, 19:56:33 »
i think i may add a iso kit even though i only have one ISO board and its not even built yet--GH60

come on guyz lets get this ErgoDox going--if we reach 25 ill be fine with paying that, and if we get 50 ill be really happy. hopefully people pick up on this.

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« Reply #157 on: Sat, 22 June 2013, 20:17:00 »
If this hasn't been posted over at deskthority, I suggest someone does. More ISO guys there obviously.
Surprised there isn't more interest in the blank set either. Kinda expensive right now.

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« Reply #158 on: Sat, 22 June 2013, 20:32:28 »
I don't have ISO board.... but if it would help people going at it I will order set later down the road. Question is out of 280 DSA Dolch sets only 13 people are from EU or other countries that use ISO layout? that can't be right?
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« Reply #159 on: Sat, 22 June 2013, 20:32:59 »
If this hasn't been posted over at deskthority, I suggest someone does. More ISO guys there obviously.
Surprised there isn't more interest in the blank set either. Kinda expensive right now.

It has been posted in DT.

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« Reply #160 on: Sun, 23 June 2013, 01:55:07 »
iso kit is not that appealing without a full language pack and people just received their daily dose of DSA with the Retro GB (which included UK language anyway).

if we could run a GB with all EU languages (or at least 6-7)... that would be something!

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« Reply #161 on: Sun, 23 June 2013, 06:05:09 »
Any chance to make the blank version of the DSA Retro Set ? I do not need letters on my board
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« Reply #162 on: Sun, 23 June 2013, 10:59:39 »
Any chance to make the blank version of the DSA Retro Set ? I do not need letters on my board
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« Reply #163 on: Sun, 23 June 2013, 13:14:45 »
Any chance to make the blank version of the DSA Retro Set ? I do not need letters on my board
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« Reply #164 on: Sun, 23 June 2013, 16:33:40 »
Finally put my order in, can't wait to receive everything but I hope it turns out ok, we've all got a lot of money tied up in it now! :P

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Re: [GB] DSA Dolch ISO + Expansions/DSA RGBY/DSA DOLCH Blank Sets
« Reply #165 on: Mon, 24 June 2013, 21:52:48 »
Ok, sheepish newb question here: I'm going to buy a Full Hand ErgoDox on the current MassDrop deal (my first mechanical! Going to go with MX Blue for all the typing I do), but I'm a bit confused by the keycaps. I see that on the order I can just include "Blank PBT DSA" for $37... so what would this group buy provide instead? I see it's got the black/gray colors; is that the only difference?

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Re: [GB] DSA Dolch ISO + Expansions/DSA RGBY/DSA DOLCH Blank Sets
« Reply #166 on: Tue, 25 June 2013, 00:36:36 »
Ok, sheepish newb question here: I'm going to buy a Full Hand ErgoDox on the current MassDrop deal (my first mechanical! Going to go with MX Blue for all the typing I do), but I'm a bit confused by the keycaps. I see that on the order I can just include "Blank PBT DSA" for $37... so what would this group buy provide instead? I see it's got the black/gray colors; is that the only difference?

the ones in the ergodox sale are oem profile/standard keycaps. these are DSA profile. that means that they sit lower on the keyboard.
for a example please look at the dsa retro thread here... http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40175.0
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« Reply #167 on: Tue, 25 June 2013, 00:40:53 »
How many ppl down for kit 2 atm?

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« Reply #169 on: Tue, 25 June 2013, 10:00:35 »
Ordered :)
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« Reply #170 on: Tue, 25 June 2013, 11:53:18 »
I have received approval from OTD.kr for the stepped capslocks.
since we are to far into this for me to modify an existing kit....
Kit 9 will be created for all the remaining capslocks.

It will reflect the following:
1x 1.75u DSA GX Stepped CAPS LOCK - Left Stem with legends
1x 1.75u DSA GX Stepped CTRL           - Left Stem with legends
1x 1.75u DSA GX Stepped SHIFT LOCK - Left Stem with legends
1x 1.75u DSA GX Stepped Capslock      - Left Stem blank
1x 1.75u DSA GX full touch blank off side stem Capslock

I am getting a quote from SP right now.

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Re: [GB] DSA Dolch ISO + Expansions/DSA RGBY/DSA DOLCH Blank Sets
« Reply #171 on: Tue, 25 June 2013, 11:55:41 »
Per the agreement from OTD.kr
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The two conditions should be read as below.



1. The group buy shall not pursue any profit of anyone other than Signature Plastics.

2. The fact that the charges of tooling was paid by the members of OTD who participated
in the group buy of that time shall be noticed to the participants of your group buy.



Thanks and regards,

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« Reply #172 on: Tue, 25 June 2013, 12:12:32 »
That's amazing news!!! Could you please add a 6 unit space to that kit 9?
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« Reply #173 on: Tue, 25 June 2013, 12:22:35 »
Very nice of them. :)
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« Reply #174 on: Tue, 25 June 2013, 12:27:19 »
no need of the "shift lock" it was a DSA retro quirk

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« Reply #175 on: Tue, 25 June 2013, 12:48:22 »
no need of the "shift lock" it was a DSA retro quirk
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Re: [GB] DSA Dolch ISO + Expansions/DSA RGBY/DSA DOLCH Blank Sets
« Reply #176 on: Tue, 25 June 2013, 13:09:26 »
Ok, sheepish newb question here: I'm going to buy a Full Hand ErgoDox on the current MassDrop deal (my first mechanical! Going to go with MX Blue for all the typing I do), but I'm a bit confused by the keycaps. I see that on the order I can just include "Blank PBT DSA" for $37... so what would this group buy provide instead? I see it's got the black/gray colors; is that the only difference?

This group buy would give you identical shaped DSA keys but they would be different colors of ABS plastic instead of PBT. If you are going for blanks anyways then you will want PBT unless you really like the two tone color options. PBT is a more durable plastic than ABS.

the ones in the ergodox sale are oem profile/standard keycaps.

This is not correct, they are DSA profile just like this group buy.

Also 1.75x size shift goes on the right and is for KBT Pure, 18xx, and some other boards. The 1.25x shift goes on the left and is for iso, and other language layouts (this is in reference to the RGBY kit keys description)
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« Reply #177 on: Tue, 25 June 2013, 13:29:14 »
thanks for the info dan. i want this to match the other dolch gb and that is why it is abs. 6x space.. i will ask. anything else i am missing?

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« Reply #178 on: Tue, 25 June 2013, 14:37:20 »
thanks for the info dan. i want this to match the other dolch gb and that is why it is abs. 6x space.. i will ask. anything else i am missing?

sorry this is garbage. it is from tapatalk.
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Re: [GB] DSA Dolch ISO + Expansions/DSA RGBY/DSA DOLCH Blank Sets
« Reply #179 on: Tue, 25 June 2013, 15:46:02 »
Stoked about the stepped 1.75u!! Eager to see the pricing tiers :)

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« Reply #180 on: Tue, 25 June 2013, 16:14:18 »
Ok, sheepish newb question here: I'm going to buy a Full Hand ErgoDox on the current MassDrop deal (my first mechanical! Going to go with MX Blue for all the typing I do), but I'm a bit confused by the keycaps. I see that on the order I can just include "Blank PBT DSA" for $37... so what would this group buy provide instead? I see it's got the black/gray colors; is that the only difference?

This group buy would give you identical shaped DSA keys but they would be different colors of ABS plastic instead of PBT. If you are going for blanks anyways then you will want PBT unless you really like the two tone color options. PBT is a more durable plastic than ABS.

the ones in the ergodox sale are oem profile/standard keycaps.

This is not correct, they are DSA profile just like this group buy.

Also 1.75x size shift goes on the right and is for KBT Pure, 18xx, and some other boards. The 1.25x shift goes on the left and is for iso, and other language layouts (this is in reference to the RGBY kit keys description)

Thanks for clarifying Dan, I was wondering about that.

I'm not really "going for" blanks so much as that is the only option I am aware of so far for for the ErgoDox (that Retro GB looked fun, too bad I missed it). From my reading it sounds like blanks are not a bad way to go anyway as it will force me to do muscle memory for the new layout. I'll do some more searching and fire up a new post if needed; don't want to hijack this thread.

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Re: [GB] DSA Dolch ISO + Expansions/DSA RGBY/DSA DOLCH Blank Sets
« Reply #181 on: Wed, 26 June 2013, 21:16:39 »
ok kit 9 is posted with the capslocks and 6u spacebars.

edit: sorry it took me so long to post this. it has been a very busy day.
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« Reply #182 on: Wed, 26 June 2013, 22:17:06 »
ok kit 9 is posted with the capslocks and 6u spacebars.

edit: sorry it took me so long to post this. it has been a very busy day.
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« Reply #183 on: Thu, 27 June 2013, 07:38:02 »
Sheeeit... As much as a stepped 1.75u would complete my dream key set, those pricing tiers are a little scary. Especially since 3 full-touch 1.75u (1 centre stemmed, 2 left) are included in the companion DSA REPLICA GB.

However, a stepped 1.75u would appeal to the members of the other GB since DrugER couldn't get permission to include it in his set. Hopefully that price comes waaaaay down.

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Re: [GB] DSA Dolch ISO + Expansions/DSA RGBY/DSA DOLCH Blank Sets
« Reply #184 on: Thu, 27 June 2013, 09:04:08 »
Sheeeit... As much as a stepped 1.75u would complete my dream key set, those pricing tiers are a little scary. Especially since 3 full-touch 1.75u (1 centre stemmed, 2 left) are included in the companion DSA REPLICA GB.

However, a stepped 1.75u would appeal to the members of the other GB since DrugER couldn't get permission to include it in his set. Hopefully that price comes waaaaay down.

i will extend this until we get reasonable prices if needed.

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« Reply #185 on: Thu, 27 June 2013, 09:28:03 »
Up to you :) I don't think I'll be in for Kit 9. As much as I'd love a stepped caps, the rest of this set means I'm 99.98% there. Might be in for a few of Kit 8 - just need to do some keycap maths ;)

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« Reply #186 on: Thu, 27 June 2013, 09:31:20 »
Kit 9 has window right?
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« Reply #187 on: Thu, 27 June 2013, 09:35:03 »
Kit 9 has window right?

I did not get quotes for them with windows. let me check on that and get back to you.

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« Reply #188 on: Thu, 27 June 2013, 09:48:24 »
Kit 9 has window right?

I did not get quotes for them with windows. let me check on that and get back to you.
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« Reply #189 on: Thu, 27 June 2013, 09:58:52 »
I wish there were a way to order individual blank keys in both colors. But I placed an order for Kits 5 & 9.
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« Reply #190 on: Thu, 27 June 2013, 10:28:13 »
Kit 9 has window right?

I did not get quotes for them with windows. let me check on that and get back to you.
I thought that's why you needed permission?

no. not for windows. for the stepped tooling.

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« Reply #191 on: Thu, 27 June 2013, 10:48:29 »
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Re: [GB] DSA Dolch ISO + Expansions/DSA RGBY/DSA DOLCH Blank Sets
« Reply #192 on: Thu, 27 June 2013, 10:51:36 »
actually.... if I go with windows then the printing has to change to pad printed. I think I will ask for one windowed blank to be added instead. pad printing sucks.

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« Reply #193 on: Thu, 27 June 2013, 10:58:26 »
actually.... if I go with windows then the printing has to change to pad printed. I think I will ask for one windowed blank to be added instead. pad printing sucks.
That sounds even better! Numbers should pick up in a week or two. Gotta let everyone recover from GH60, MKC/Imtso case, and Dolch DSA.
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Re: [GB] DSA Dolch ISO + Expansions/DSA RGBY/DSA DOLCH Blank Sets
« Reply #194 on: Thu, 27 June 2013, 11:33:14 »
Windowed stepped blank 1.75u!!! Will have to see closer to the time :(

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Re: [GB] DSA Dolch ISO + Expansions/DSA RGBY/DSA DOLCH Blank Sets
« Reply #195 on: Thu, 27 June 2013, 15:15:57 »
ok prices on kit9 updated to reflect the extra windowed capslock key

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« Reply #196 on: Thu, 27 June 2013, 15:55:13 »
awesome having kit 9 with all the extras, but I just cant justify spending on the whole kit just so I can use the left stemmed stepped capslock... I might join if it reaches 200 which I doubt.

Is it me or this could of been done little different bro?

1. You could of add this to the tenkeyless blank set and adjust the price:

- 1x 1.75u DSA GX Stepped Capslock      - Left Stem blank
- 1x 1.75u DSA GX Stepped Capslock      - Left Stem blank w/ led window
- 1x 1.75u DSA GX full touch blank off side stem Capslock

2. Have this as a KIT 9:

 - 1x 1.75u DSA GX Stepped CAPS LOCK - Left Stem with legends
 - 1x 1.75u DSA GX Stepped CTRL           - Left Stem with legends
 - 1x 1.75u DSA GX Stepped SHIFT LOCK - Left Stem with legends

3. Have this as a KIT 10:

- 1x 6u DSA GE Spacebar
- 1x 6u DCS GE Spacebar

Sorry for this post, but I think this seem more reasonable don't you think?  You will have 1 more kit, but at least this way you'll attract more customers....



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Re: [GB] DSA Dolch ISO + Expansions/DSA RGBY/DSA DOLCH Blank Sets
« Reply #197 on: Thu, 27 June 2013, 16:36:57 »
If I change the existing sets now I interrupt the people that have already committed to buying the kits the way I originally presented them.

If I get enough of the people that ordered kit 5 to post in this thread saying combine kit 9 with kit 5 then I will do that. This is really the best option. There is no reason to not sell all the spacebars and mod/special keys/capslocks together.

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Re: [GB] DSA Dolch ISO + Expansions/DSA RGBY/DSA DOLCH Blank Sets
« Reply #198 on: Thu, 27 June 2013, 16:40:48 »
I also need to merge duplicate orders as well :(

Edit: merging the iso kit with kit 5 also might be a option to ensure that the iso kit sells enough.
but then I would have 50+ people mad because they have extra iso enter keys laying around.

and 15 iso kit buyers mad because they have to purchase the entire mod kit.
« Last Edit: Thu, 27 June 2013, 16:56:01 by domoaligato »

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Re: [GB] DSA Dolch ISO + Expansions/DSA RGBY/DSA DOLCH Blank Sets
« Reply #199 on: Thu, 27 June 2013, 16:59:28 »
I can see how people would get upset for adding things to their order and bumping the price, you should leave it as it is. I also know that you are trying to avoid more separate kits which can mean headache....

But the kit 9 has no connection between the keys my brother, you have 3 different types of kits in kit 9...

Kit 1 (Blanks)
- 1x 1.75u DSA GX Stepped Capslock      - Left Stem blank
- 1x 1.75u DSA GX Stepped Capslock      - Left Stem blank w/ led window
- 1x 1.75u DSA GX full touch blank off side stem Capslock
 
Kit 2 (Legends)
 - 1x 1.75u DSA GX Stepped CAPS LOCK - Left Stem with legends
 - 1x 1.75u DSA GX Stepped CTRL           - Left Stem with legends
 - 1x 1.75u DSA GX Stepped SHIFT LOCK - Left Stem with legends

Kit 3 (odd size spacebars)
- 1x 6u DSA GE Spacebar
- 1x 6u DCS GE Spacebar

EDIT: Have you considered that your ISO kit is missing bunch of language packs?  you only have the typical Eng ISO pack, try adding language packs to it and see how more people will join, ISO sells good only when broader option of language pack is added.


« Last Edit: Thu, 27 June 2013, 17:05:44 by bazemk1979 »
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