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Re: CM Storm Novatouch Pre-Launch Showcase & First Impressions & Typing test
« Reply #100 on: Mon, 14 April 2014, 12:33:57 »
I don't know what's wrong with some of the l33t g4merz and their views on keyboard brands, but I saw some comments on the youtube video stating that the new Razer switches were 'better' and that CM Storm is 'copying' them lmfao.

Doesn't help that they're bashing topre and its rubber domes too.

Let's just hope this keyboard shuts up the naysayers and appeals to not only the enthusiasts, but up-and-coming keyboard lovers too (:
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Re: CM Storm Novatouch Pre-Launch Showcase & First Impressions & Typing test
« Reply #101 on: Mon, 14 April 2014, 12:41:15 »
I don't know what's wrong with some of the l33t g4merz and their views on keyboard brands, but I saw some comments on the youtube video stating that the new Razer switches were 'better' and that CM Storm is 'copying' them lmfao.

Doesn't help that they're bashing topre and its rubber domes too.

Let's just hope this keyboard shuts up the naysayers and appeals to not only the enthusiasts, but up-and-coming keyboard lovers too (:
I saw all of those comments, painful to read.

Just like this comment I saw not too long ago, just goes to show your average razer customer I guess.

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Re: CM Storm Novatouch Pre-Launch Showcase & First Impressions & Typing test
« Reply #102 on: Mon, 14 April 2014, 13:04:22 »
yes! buy razer and spend 80% of the price in packaging. because that's what matters.

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Re: CM Storm Novatouch Pre-Launch Showcase & First Impressions & Typing test
« Reply #103 on: Mon, 14 April 2014, 13:09:48 »
The case is not the same as a QFR IMO. You can see more of the F-row keys 'skirt', which leads me to think it is lower profile. Especially toward the top of the case, which is good because QFR's can have clearance issues in that area. Kinda hard to explain... but say you put cherry profile keycaps on a QFR, well when you bottom out a F-row key the top of the keycap will basically be flush with the case.

Then again the switches could just be mounted higher.

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yes! buy razer and spend 80% of the price in packaging. because that's what matters.

Only razer product I think is worth its value is the deathadder

Literally nothing else that company has to offer is 'bang for the buck'

Anyway, back on topic

There's still the problem of the depth of the actuated key on the nova touch? Is that being fixed on the release product?
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There's still the problem of the depth of the actuated key on the nova touch? Is that being fixed on the release product?

I'm curious about this as well. CM reps seem to be more active at Deskthority so an answer may turn up there.

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Re: CM Storm Novatouch Pre-Launch Showcase & First Impressions & Typing test
« Reply #106 on: Mon, 14 April 2014, 14:51:18 »
they are topre. the PCB is also topre branded.

I assume you would know but it really sounded like that rep was trying to avoid anything to do with Topre, even when pushed he only talked about it being based on the Topre design. I mean surely they would want to trade off the Topre brand name if they could? or possibly their deal precludes that kind thing?

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Re: CM Storm Novatouch Pre-Launch Showcase & First Impressions & Typing test
« Reply #107 on: Mon, 14 April 2014, 14:52:02 »
I don't know what's wrong with some of the l33t g4merz and their views on keyboard brands, but I saw some comments on the youtube video stating that the new Razer switches were 'better' and that CM Storm is 'copying' them lmfao.

Doesn't help that they're bashing topre and its rubber domes too.

Let's just hope this keyboard shuts up the naysayers and appeals to not only the enthusiasts, but up-and-coming keyboard lovers too (:
I saw all of those comments, painful to read.

Just like this comment I saw not too long ago, just goes to show your average razer customer I guess.
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Re: CM Storm Novatouch Pre-Launch Showcase & First Impressions & Typing test
« Reply #108 on: Mon, 14 April 2014, 14:55:59 »
There's still the problem of the depth of the actuated key on the nova touch? Is that being fixed on the release product?

I'm curious about this as well. CM reps seem to be more active at Deskthority so an answer may turn up there.

IIRC Matt3o mentioned it somewhere, but he's under NDA.

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« Reply #109 on: Mon, 14 April 2014, 15:17:28 »
It's a partnership between Topre and CM Storm, if I understand it correctly. I suppose PFU wouldn't be very happy, if CM Storm made a budget-level HHKB.

OTOH Carter has mentioned that they'd consider a 60% design, if NovaTouch *is* successful.

All these things CM are promising if Novatouch is successful - how many people are going to hold off buying the 45g TKL layout waiting for something different?
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Re: CM Storm Novatouch Pre-Launch Showcase & First Impressions & Typing test
« Reply #110 on: Mon, 14 April 2014, 15:22:25 »
All these things CM are promising if Novatouch is successful - how many people are going to hold off buying the 45g TKL layout waiting for something different?

I was going to hold off due to the lack of 55g weighting but I'm going to go ahead and get the first iteration to see what it feels like. It'll never happen but I want something like this with Topre switches:


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There's still the problem of the depth of the actuated key on the nova touch? Is that being fixed on the release product?

I'm curious about this as well. CM reps seem to be more active at Deskthority so an answer may turn up there.

IIRC Matt3o mentioned it somewhere, but he's under NDA.

I hope I can get the "full" topre experience. I don't want the key throw to be far off.

I hope they fix that if it is a big issue.

If the rep doesn't want to say "topre", do you think it is because the stems are different? It can't be considered "true" topre if it doesn't have topre type stems.

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Re: CM Storm Novatouch Pre-Launch Showcase & First Impressions & Typing test
« Reply #112 on: Mon, 14 April 2014, 15:47:49 »
I don't know what's wrong with some of the l33t g4merz and their views on keyboard brands, but I saw some comments on the youtube video stating that the new Razer switches were 'better' and that CM Storm is 'copying' them lmfao.

Doesn't help that they're bashing topre and its rubber domes too.

Let's just hope this keyboard shuts up the naysayers and appeals to not only the enthusiasts, but up-and-coming keyboard lovers too (:
I saw all of those comments, painful to read.

Just like this comment I saw not too long ago, just goes to show your average razer customer I guess.
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oh god....

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Re: CM Storm Novatouch Pre-Launch Showcase & First Impressions & Typing test
« Reply #113 on: Mon, 14 April 2014, 16:46:54 »
the prototype I've got has some problems. but that's normal with the prototypes and the reason to run beta tests. I sent CM a full report, so they are well aware of the issues. I hope to get a new prototype soon. As far as I know production hasn't started so I bet we will see some more iteration before the final version.

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yes! buy razer and spend 80% of the price in packaging. because that's what matters.

Only razer product I think is worth its value is the deathadder

Literally nothing else that company has to offer is 'bang for the buck'

Anyway, back on topic

There's still the problem of the depth of the actuated key on the nova touch? Is that being fixed on the release product?
DA? Only the old 3.5G one is. Nothing is worth it at Razer anymore. The CM Storm Alcor is the new kid on the block  :p
There is no depth problem.

I think it is because it has a tactile bump but isn't clicky...so the closest thing to it that people can relate to in the mechanical world is brown...although I think Alps are probably closer...and obviously a normal rubber dome keyboard is pretty similar in feel as well but they're not about to say that...
"Pretty similar" but actually worlds apart. If they said blues without the clicky noise then I think that's more accurate  :rolleyes:

I don't know what's wrong with some of the l33t g4merz and their views on keyboard brands, but I saw some comments on the youtube video stating that the new Razer switches were 'better' and that CM Storm is 'copying' them lmfao.

Doesn't help that they're bashing topre and its rubber domes too.

Let's just hope this keyboard shuts up the naysayers and appeals to not only the enthusiasts, but up-and-coming keyboard lovers too (:
The keyboard that introduced me to the mech keyboard world (And where I am today) is a Rosewill RK9000RE  :p
The case is not the same as a QFR IMO. You can see more of the F-row keys 'skirt', which leads me to think it is lower profile. Especially toward the top of the case, which is good because QFR's can have clearance issues in that area. Kinda hard to explain... but say you put cherry profile keycaps on a QFR, well when you bottom out a F-row key the top of the keycap will basically be flush with the case.

Then again the switches could just be mounted higher.
And every switch in particular ...
yes! buy razer and spend 80% of the price in packaging. because that's what matters.
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It's a partnership between Topre and CM Storm, if I understand it correctly. I suppose PFU wouldn't be very happy, if CM Storm made a budget-level HHKB.

OTOH Carter has mentioned that they'd consider a 60% design, if NovaTouch *is* successful.

All these things CM are promising if Novatouch is successful - how many people are going to hold off buying the 45g TKL layout waiting for something different?
That's why they should produce 55g as well, regardless of turnup.
I don't know what's wrong with some of the l33t g4merz and their views on keyboard brands, but I saw some comments on the youtube video stating that the new Razer switches were 'better' and that CM Storm is 'copying' them lmfao.

Doesn't help that they're bashing topre and its rubber domes too.

Let's just hope this keyboard shuts up the naysayers and appeals to not only the enthusiasts, but up-and-coming keyboard lovers too (:
Razer fanboys for ya. I've had enough of them.
I don't know what's wrong with some of the l33t g4merz and their views on keyboard brands, but I saw some comments on the youtube video stating that the new Razer switches were 'better' and that CM Storm is 'copying' them lmfao.

Doesn't help that they're bashing topre and its rubber domes too.

Let's just hope this keyboard shuts up the naysayers and appeals to not only the enthusiasts, but up-and-coming keyboard lovers too (:
I saw all of those comments, painful to read.

Just like this comment I saw not too long ago, just goes to show your average razer customer I guess.
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oh god....
Certainly not the worst either but it deserves a 80$ price tag not a 225$

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Re: CM Storm Novatouch Pre-Launch Showcase & First Impressions & Typing test
« Reply #115 on: Tue, 15 April 2014, 12:50:40 »
I got to try these are PAX East as well. They really do feel like browns, except "cleaner". Just feels a bit smoother with less a bit less friction, if that makes sense.

I also got to try Cherry Greens for the first time, which are pretty cool as well. Just stiffer blues though, really.

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Re: CM Storm Novatouch Pre-Launch Showcase & First Impressions & Typing test
« Reply #116 on: Thu, 17 April 2014, 22:15:11 »
how much longer do we have to wait? Hurry up and take my parents' money already!

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Re: CM Storm Novatouch Pre-Launch Showcase & First Impressions & Typing test
« Reply #117 on: Fri, 18 April 2014, 01:03:48 »
how much longer do we have to wait? Hurry up and take my parents' money already!
I don't know  :-[

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Re: CM Storm Novatouch Pre-Launch Showcase & First Impressions & Typing test
« Reply #118 on: Fri, 18 April 2014, 01:13:11 »
not sure if this already got answered but can I use a different tkl case for the novatouch

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« Reply #119 on: Fri, 18 April 2014, 04:21:05 »
I got to try these are PAX East as well. They really do feel like browns, except "cleaner". Just feels a bit smoother with less a bit less friction, if that makes sense.

I also got to try Cherry Greens for the first time, which are pretty cool as well. Just stiffer blues though, really.

Yeah, IMO browns are like scratchy Topre. Obviously it's not that simple, but of all the Cherry switches, browns are the closest to me. Do you find Greens to be kind of slugish? People always call them stiff, but to me they're just like sluggy blues.
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« Reply #120 on: Fri, 18 April 2014, 08:38:24 »
I got to try these are PAX East as well. They really do feel like browns, except "cleaner". Just feels a bit smoother with less a bit less friction, if that makes sense.

I also got to try Cherry Greens for the first time, which are pretty cool as well. Just stiffer blues though, really.

Yeah, IMO browns are like scratchy Topre. Obviously it's not that simple, but of all the Cherry switches, browns are the closest to me. Do you find Greens to be kind of slugish? People always call them stiff, but to me they're just like sluggy blues.
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« Reply #121 on: Fri, 18 April 2014, 17:40:50 »
Tried it at a cooler master event. Very nice keyboard. I feel I cannot compare it to a cherry switch. It has a completely different feeling IMO. It was the first topre keyboard I tried and now I know what GH means with when they say it makes a "thock" sound.
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« Reply #122 on: Sat, 19 April 2014, 01:53:14 »
Tried it at a cooler master event. Very nice keyboard. I feel I cannot compare it to a cherry switch. It has a completely different feeling IMO. It was the first topre keyboard I tried and now I know what GH means with when they say it makes a "thock" sound.
I think it makes a thock sound rather than the clacks of a cherry. Still would benefit from a silence pad though  :p

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Tried it at a cooler master event. Very nice keyboard. I feel I cannot compare it to a cherry switch. It has a completely different feeling IMO. It was the first topre keyboard I tried and now I know what GH means with when they say it makes a "thock" sound.
Are you in Singapore or Malaysia? I'd like to know where you tried the keyboard.
 

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Tried it at a cooler master event. Very nice keyboard. I feel I cannot compare it to a cherry switch. It has a completely different feeling IMO. It was the first topre keyboard I tried and now I know what GH means with when they say it makes a "thock" sound.
Are you in Singapore or Malaysia? I'd like to know where you tried the keyboard.

Quite far from any of those countries actually. It was an event on The gathering (lan) in Norway.

Tried it at a cooler master event. Very nice keyboard. I feel I cannot compare it to a cherry switch. It has a completely different feeling IMO. It was the first topre keyboard I tried and now I know what GH means with when they say it makes a "thock" sound.
I think it makes a thock sound rather than the clacks of a cherry. Still would benefit from a silence pad though  :p

Didn't feel the need for an silence pad. But that is of course personal preference of course.
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Re: CM Storm Novatouch Pre-Launch Showcase & First Impressions & Typing test
« Reply #125 on: Mon, 21 April 2014, 15:41:56 »
Ohey! You folks and the ones in OCN seem to be only one wanting one of these.  :confused:  :eek:
the local blokes don't really seem to be commenting on much  :-X

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« Reply #126 on: Wed, 23 April 2014, 23:05:10 »
Ohey! You folks and the ones in OCN seem to be only one wanting one of these.  :confused:  :eek:
the local blokes don't really seem to be commenting on much  :-X

The hype's kinda died down cause of the delayed launch :/

And I don't think local folks can grasp why a 'capacitive' half rubber dome is better than the rubber domes / mech keyboards they're accustomed to :P

And btw, who's that in your avatar? Looks kind of like Yukino :P
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Re: CM Storm Novatouch Pre-Launch Showcase & First Impressions & Typing test
« Reply #127 on: Thu, 24 April 2014, 01:03:01 »
Ohey! You folks and the ones in OCN seem to be only one wanting one of these.  :confused:  :eek:
the local blokes don't really seem to be commenting on much  :-X

The hype's kinda died down cause of the delayed launch :/

And I don't think local folks can grasp why a 'capacitive' half rubber dome is better than the rubber domes / mech keyboards they're accustomed to :P

And btw, who's that in your avatar? Looks kind of like Yukino :P

Then again the local folks hardly comment anyway.

Yeah it did :/

It's Yatogami Tohka  ;)

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Re: CM Storm Novatouch Pre-Launch Showcase & First Impressions & Typing test
« Reply #128 on: Thu, 24 April 2014, 01:04:30 »
Ohey! You folks and the ones in OCN seem to be only one wanting one of these.  :confused:  :eek:
the local blokes don't really seem to be commenting on much  :-X

The hype's kinda died down cause of the delayed launch :/

And I don't think local folks can grasp why a 'capacitive' half rubber dome is better than the rubber domes / mech keyboards they're accustomed to :P

And btw, who's that in your avatar? Looks kind of like Yukino :P

Then again the local folks hardly comment anyway.

Yeah it did :/

It's Yatogami Tohka  ;)

Most waifus looks alike, I'm afraid :P
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Re: CM Storm Novatouch Pre-Launch Showcase & First Impressions & Typing test
« Reply #129 on: Thu, 24 April 2014, 13:43:53 »
Most waifus looks alike, I'm afraid :P

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