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Offline RiGS

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« Reply #150 on: Fri, 16 December 2011, 10:55:08 »
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What is the total weight with the Poker innards??

For SCIENCE:  Ripsters Quality~Fg Theorem (RipQFT).

And dude, true geeks always use Metric.


The poker with the original case weights slightly less than 400g. Abs plastic has a density of 1.05 g/cm3.
Do the math.
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« Reply #151 on: Fri, 16 December 2011, 11:03:26 »
It should be around 750g. If you add the feet it would be close to 800g.
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« Reply #152 on: Fri, 16 December 2011, 17:46:38 »
Considering, red would be awesome with a cm storm quickfire (with a different spacebar and plastidipped so the stupid logos don't show).

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« Reply #153 on: Fri, 16 December 2011, 18:00:29 »
Why are you going to plastidip? You're replacing the case.
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« Reply #154 on: Sat, 17 December 2011, 04:06:27 »
Exactly my line of thinking.

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« Reply #155 on: Sat, 17 December 2011, 22:51:15 »
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Why are you going to plastidip? You're replacing the case.
lol, tired here yes i would not plastidip but I would still get a different spacebar

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« Reply #156 on: Sun, 18 December 2011, 00:19:40 »
I don't have time to catch up on all 11 pages of the thread yet, but put me on the "confirmed" list for being interested if this will fit Filco keyboards.
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« Reply #157 on: Mon, 19 December 2011, 09:11:07 »
if people are dead set on anodizing, i can get it done here locally. would have to ship them to me and i would distribute the ones that want a color.

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« Reply #158 on: Mon, 19 December 2011, 11:16:12 »
If that was the only way I could get it anodized I would pay.

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« Reply #159 on: Mon, 19 December 2011, 12:51:08 »
TKL anodized, i would be interested for sure.

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« Reply #160 on: Fri, 23 December 2011, 15:59:56 »
Nothing yet? Still preoccupied? =/

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« Reply #161 on: Tue, 27 December 2011, 21:12:54 »
i've been following this thread. i'm guessing you still don't have the prototype done yet?

i'm still interested in one, and willing to prepay for it.

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« Reply #162 on: Wed, 28 December 2011, 00:04:17 »
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Nothing yet? Still preoccupied? =/

Quote from: WhiteFireDragon;478717
i've been following this thread. i'm guessing you still don't have the prototype done yet?

i'm still interested in one, and willing to prepay for it.

My friend (and his father who owns the company I was going to have them made at) went out of town for the Christmas holidays so I haven't been able to talk with him much. I'll have to wait till he comes back. Sorry for all the delays. I'll post something when I have something to show.
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« Reply #163 on: Wed, 28 December 2011, 01:53:56 »
Ah, sorry for the pushiness.

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« Reply #164 on: Fri, 30 December 2011, 17:07:04 »
Okay well I took measurements (in millimeters), downloaded an educational version of AutoCAD, struggled for a bit to figure out how it works, then came up with dimensions for the front face so far.
EDIT: Oops, forgot to add the LED holes, will do that later.

Here's the AutoCAD file if anyone wants it. Basically a key has a width of 18mm and the space between keys is 1mm. I might go over the casing dimensions between clusters and from clusters to the edge of the case again as I'm going to borrow a set of calipers from my friend. These were done using just a ruler. http://www.mediafire.com/?88ky2a0njbcdtt6

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I have to take care of the 3D aspects of it next. Have to learn how to use AutoCAD a bit more before I tackle that.
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« Reply #165 on: Fri, 30 December 2011, 17:41:42 »
If it'll fit my PLU-87 I'm interested. When I actually get my hands on it I'll post measurements.
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« Reply #166 on: Fri, 30 December 2011, 19:38:13 »
I would be interested in this.

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« Reply #167 on: Sun, 01 January 2012, 06:55:22 »
Your measurements are 100% consistent with my Filco.

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« Reply #168 on: Sun, 15 January 2012, 16:41:01 »
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i've been following this thread. i'm guessing you still don't have the prototype done yet?

i'm still interested in one, and willing to prepay for it.

I'm with WhiteFireDragon, if and when it's finally scheduled to commence fabricating, PLEASE pm with payment details.  This is one purchase I do not want to miss out on.

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« Reply #169 on: Sun, 15 January 2012, 20:54:37 »
I would be interested.  I would love to put CM storm guts in one. It looks the same as the Filco.

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« Reply #170 on: Mon, 16 January 2012, 01:21:47 »
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I would be interested.  I would love to put CM storm guts in one. It looks the same as the Filco.

The PCB has a hole in a different spot for the stabilizer it rests on (that holds the top case to the bottom case). It is moved likely to account for the mini USB plug and cable routing on the bottom. See my post on it, here:
http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?23753-CM-Storm-Quick-Fire-Rapid-Filco-Majestouch-2-TKL

Depending on how the case is held together, it may or may not work.

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« Reply #171 on: Mon, 16 January 2012, 10:16:51 »
Thanks for the link Dorkvador.  I had a feeling it might be something like that.  Moving the holes or mounts will be easy.  Having to possibly shave the metal while keeping it looking machine cut will be harder.  

I guess it will all depend on how expensive the case will be. I'm still interested though.

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« Reply #172 on: Mon, 16 January 2012, 23:36:11 »
Count me in for sure as well.

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« Reply #173 on: Mon, 16 January 2012, 23:46:15 »
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It will just be the natural color of the metal, and it's likely going to be in stainless steel. Should give some real nice weight and sturdiness which tends to be considered a good thing. Might try one or two in aluminum.


If you are going to go Stainless Steel, PLEASE put me down as the Number One person interested in handing over money to you via Paypal......Instantly.

Unlike some other people here I don't mind Stainless Steel, because you never need to paint it, it's just so damn sexy to look at.  It's just how you will weld the joins in the flat sheet of stainless, very few welders can use a torch to successfully join up sheets/plates of this kind and make it look nice.

I'm so following this thread.........nothing interests me as having a keyboard case made for a Filco in 100% Stainless Steel.  And from the recent Metal Key-cap buy this will be my Ultimate - Keyboard.

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« Reply #174 on: Tue, 17 January 2012, 00:36:09 »
Lol I really have to get this back on track. My Filco has been sitting here naked with the casing off forever. I'll try to finish the blueprints tomorrow, just need to add the LED holes, take the measurements of the sides and the USB cable hole. I'm still not sure what the best way to get the top case attached to the original bottom is. I kind of want to be lazy and just use the one screw that goes from the bottom to the top case. Personally I think that's probably enough since it's not like the keyboard is going to do all that much except sit on a desk but I'm sure other people would like more. Doing two bends to get the metal to the sides and then to the bottom would be a good way to hug around the bottom of the casing and entomb it, but I'd need the Filco there with the machinery so that wouldn't be doable for other people I'd be mailing it to.
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« Reply #175 on: Tue, 17 January 2012, 01:12:31 »
every time i see this thread gets bumped, i'm just wishful for some prototype pics :(

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« Reply #176 on: Tue, 17 January 2012, 03:34:31 »
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every time i see this thread gets bumped, i'm just wishful for some prototype pics :(


^ This. Or a rough price quote? Pretty please?

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« Reply #177 on: Tue, 17 January 2012, 10:24:45 »
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every time i see this thread gets bumped, i'm just wishful for some prototype pics :(

Easy solution is to have people not bump it then :lol: You can be sure that when I have something cool to show that I'll be running over here with pictures and video.

Quote from: balanar;492280
^ This. Or a rough price quote? Pretty please?

Posted an estimate a long time ago actually. The metal itself is not expensive, just the labor required to work it and I was guessing that it would be no more than $50. If I get a more accurate estimate (particularly if it's higher) I'll let it be known.
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« Reply #178 on: Tue, 17 January 2012, 20:44:11 »
Posted an estimate a long time ago actually. The metal itself is not expensive, just the labor required to work it and I was guessing that it would be no more than $50. If I get a more accurate estimate (particularly if it's higher) I'll let it be known.[/QUOTE]

Oops my bad then! Ok I'll be keeping a close eye on this thread then!

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« Reply #179 on: Tue, 17 January 2012, 21:44:06 »
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You can be sure that when I have something cool to show that I'll be running over here with pictures and video.
That's equivalent to porn in these here parts.

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« Reply #180 on: Wed, 18 January 2012, 16:06:56 »
I would defiantly be interested if it was made of aluminium. Imsto made some gorgeous aluminium cases for the Poker. http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=Island:24907

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« Reply #181 on: Wed, 18 January 2012, 16:23:00 »
Not to derail here but have you guys seen the aluminum case that litster had made? It is quite nice, but I think he mentioned that there would be now group buy or CAD file. I think it was posted somewhere in the phantom thread.
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« Reply #182 on: Wed, 18 January 2012, 16:24:08 »
Er wah?  Thought litster's was acrylic...
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« Reply #183 on: Wed, 18 January 2012, 16:32:32 »
there was an aluminium case in a different thread that litster started:

http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?24594-Aluminum-Case-for-Filco-Tenkeyless&highlight=phantom+aluminum

But you are correct, the one proposed for the phantom is acrylic, and I'm guessing that won't change any time soon.
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« Reply #184 on: Wed, 18 January 2012, 16:36:19 »
Oh, and I want one of these cases too.  Just want to make that clear.
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« Reply #185 on: Wed, 18 January 2012, 16:45:01 »
Ah, yeah that one... I wrote that one off since it won't be going into production.
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« Reply #186 on: Wed, 18 January 2012, 23:31:03 »
Interested! Got my Filco a week ago... I've been looking for something to make it special. :)


EDIT: Any chance they could be anodized? I'd love a black, durable keyboard, and not one that stands out by being polished and overly shiny.

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« Reply #187 on: Thu, 19 January 2012, 13:14:23 »
I don't like how you can see the bottom piece on litster's one, though it does make it much easier to attach. There are a few other ways that I wanted to try, such as making a little alcove with an inner ledge in the top piece that a lower piece could recede into and sit on, but the machinery I'll have access to can't really do all the small bends in the metal I would need (it's meant for larger scale things). I'm also not too eager to replace the bottom piece because it has ribs on the inside to incline the keyboard which, if I recall, litster had talked about being a problem as well since it removed the incline of the PCB and subsequently the keys you type on.

It won't be anodized. Maybe someone could try to find a place that can do that afterwards though.

My friend said we might be able to give this a first shot this Saturday (assuming I get the AutoCAD file done in time!). His dad who owns the factory had a heart attack recently and his doctor ordered him away from work but his older brother is handling the factory in the meantime so we should still be able to do this. I've also got lots of homework but I think I can delay it a bit. I never get that much done on Saturday anyways, last minute Sunday homework is always the best!

What kind of thickness does everyone want? The cost of the metal is by the pound so it will be directly proportional to the thickness. Most of the cost come from the labor though so the thickness is more about the look. I was thinking about 3/16" stainless steel, after that it looks too thick I think. 1/16" aluminum might be nice for people who like the minimalist apple look.
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« Reply #188 on: Thu, 19 January 2012, 14:50:04 »
I was hoping that this could be a good alternative Phantom case, given the Filco/Phantom cross compatibility.  Not sure how shell thickness will affect internal room for the plate, but given that Phantom plate is slightly thicker than a Filco's, that would be my concern in selection.
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« Reply #189 on: Thu, 19 January 2012, 14:52:48 »
No, Phantom's plate is not thicker than Filco's.  They are the same.  I made that wrong assumption because I didn't file down the corners enough previously.  They are the same thickness.

In any case, plate thickness should not affect case fitting.  There is a lot of room in there.

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« Reply #190 on: Thu, 19 January 2012, 16:17:27 »
You still taking interests for the KBC Poker cases? If so, whats prices and colour options?
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« Reply #191 on: Thu, 19 January 2012, 17:56:27 »
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You still taking interests for the KBC Poker cases? If so, whats prices and colour options?

When was OP ever taking interest for poker cases? He mentioned filco only, and a very limited run too.

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« Reply #192 on: Fri, 20 January 2012, 11:47:27 »
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My friend said we might be able to give this a first shot this Saturday (assuming I get the AutoCAD file done in time!).

Scratch that, apparently /he/ has homework to do this weekend.
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« Reply #193 on: Sun, 22 January 2012, 23:50:45 »
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When was OP ever taking interest for poker cases? He mentioned filco only, and a very limited run too.

somewhere there is a thread with a poker with a case that linked here to express interest.
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« Reply #194 on: Mon, 23 January 2012, 11:55:28 »
Vortex will be mass producing aluminum cases for the Poker in March it seems. I'll probably be getting one of those myself.
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« Reply #195 on: Tue, 24 January 2012, 08:17:24 »
Definitely interested in a metal chassis for the Filco

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« Reply #196 on: Tue, 24 January 2012, 08:26:21 »
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Vortex will be mass producing aluminum cases for the Poker in March it seems. I'll probably be getting one of those myself.

Any more information on "Vortex"?
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« Reply #197 on: Tue, 24 January 2012, 08:31:03 »
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Any more information on "Vortex"?

Still nothing, just pictures. I've subscribed to their Facebook page to keep up to date.

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« Reply #198 on: Tue, 24 January 2012, 11:19:00 »
If this works for phantom, i want one.

3/16 STAINLESS STEEL?
Isnt that like, strong enough to kill an IBM Model M with?
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« Reply #199 on: Tue, 24 January 2012, 16:19:32 »
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Still nothing, just pictures. I've subscribed to their Facebook page to keep up to date.

I was asking more about the company or person "Vortex", got a link to their facebook?
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