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BSP PBT Dye-Sublimation Sets
« on: Tue, 11 June 2013, 17:00:30 »
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We are going to be offering the BSP PBT Dye Sublimation sets soon.

There will be 4 colors available.

Black
Blue
Green
Red

Our sets will have 85 keys.  We will be offering the spacebar in the same colorway as the white in about 2 months.  The cost of the spacebar will be very minimal. 

Our F and J keys are nippled.  We are offering a 1x Windows key.

The cost will be approximately $135.  Other people were able to offer it at a lower price because they did a group buy on it. 



The product, CKS-SHLIV-G81, was for us.  The SHLIV stands for my name, Sheraton Liv.  Do not let anyone fool you that this is their product.  I believe it was wrong that BSP allowed someone to order a small amount, because the MOQ is very high.  I had to order a high amount, and someone jumped on our MOQ somehow.  I have talked with them, and I believe they are going to cancel their order.

Why did I choose these colors?

Everyone loves the original black font set. 

I wanted to do the Olivetti more better this time.

Everyone wanted a Red Alert set in Cherry PBT (or I believe they would want it).

I thought it'd be fun to make a SoWaRe set with green legends!
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Re: BSP PBT Dye-Sublimation Sets
« Reply #1 on: Tue, 11 June 2013, 17:04:00 »
Oh yeah, I also asked them to put the Pause and Break key on the top of the key, but they did it kind of ugly.  I am sorry about that too.

The green did not come out as how we imagined it, but it is still nice.  It's more Olive.  I was hoping for the Green color in the RGB, but they had to contrast it correctly on the white and grey keycap.  It would have looked like a different green if they used the RGB green on those two keycaps.

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Re: BSP PBT Dye-Sublimation Sets
« Reply #2 on: Tue, 11 June 2013, 17:05:43 »
Sherry, possible to set a few sets aside without any printing? Only interested in blanks.

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Re: BSP PBT Dye-Sublimation Sets
« Reply #3 on: Tue, 11 June 2013, 17:06:30 »
Sherry, possible to set a few sets aside without any printing? Only interested in blanks.

I did not order any of those, but I'm going to get them in soon. 

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Re: BSP PBT Dye-Sublimation Sets
« Reply #4 on: Tue, 11 June 2013, 17:12:23 »
This is awesome Sherry. I was waiting for you to stock BSP. I will definitely pick up a set when I have the money!
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Re: BSP PBT Dye-Sublimation Sets
« Reply #5 on: Tue, 11 June 2013, 17:13:18 »
This is awesome Sherry. I was waiting for you to stock BSP. I will definitely pick up a set when I have the money!

I was the first to stock BSP with the RGB sets already! :)


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Re: BSP PBT Dye-Sublimation Sets
« Reply #6 on: Tue, 11 June 2013, 17:16:38 »
Fun, I ordered one of those BSP sets from who I assume is the other buyer.  Sherry, how soon will we be able to order the BSP sets from Originative?

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Re: BSP PBT Dye-Sublimation Sets
« Reply #7 on: Tue, 11 June 2013, 17:18:59 »
Do you think you'd be able to photograph this set next to your beige GMK set? I want to see the colour difference between ABS and PBT.

EDIT : I don't mean the entire set. Just one white ABS key next to a white PBT key and a beige ABS key next to a beige PBT key.
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Re: BSP PBT Dye-Sublimation Sets
« Reply #8 on: Tue, 11 June 2013, 17:26:12 »
1.5 mods with a 7x space bar....yes, please.
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Re: BSP PBT Dye-Sublimation Sets
« Reply #9 on: Tue, 11 June 2013, 17:27:00 »
Still quite expensive considering its only 85 keys, not full 104/105. I would understand if the price was for a full set.

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Re: BSP PBT Dye-Sublimation Sets
« Reply #10 on: Tue, 11 June 2013, 17:41:54 »
Sherry, possible to set a few sets aside without any printing? Only interested in blanks.

I did not order any of those, but I'm going to get them in soon.

I'd be interested in blanks as well.  ;D

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Re: BSP PBT Dye-Sublimation Sets
« Reply #11 on: Tue, 11 June 2013, 17:48:12 »
Sherry, possible to set a few sets aside without any printing? Only interested in blanks.

I did not order any of those, but I'm going to get them in soon.

I'd be interested in blanks as well.  ;D

I'm not sure if this has been addressed before but since there's the topic on blanks, would there be a possibility of black blanks Sherry? 1.5x mods / 7x in black blanks makes me feel all gitty.

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Re: BSP PBT Dye-Sublimation Sets
« Reply #12 on: Tue, 11 June 2013, 17:51:49 »
After we QC'd these keys, we have to return them for new keys.

They might be another week delayed.  I am sorry about that guys.

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Re: BSP PBT Dye-Sublimation Sets
« Reply #13 on: Tue, 11 June 2013, 18:13:36 »
So this has 1.5 bottom mods, a 1x windows key and no spacebar? Could you put this set on one of the cap set checks (I suggested this a while ago, so people know exactly what they're getting)? Could these ship with the Dolch?
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Re: BSP PBT Dye-Sublimation Sets
« Reply #14 on: Tue, 11 June 2013, 18:16:01 »
So this has 1.5 bottom mods, a 1x windows key and no spacebar? Could you put this set on one of the cap set checks (I suggested this a while ago, so people know exactly what they're getting)? Could these ship with the Dolch?

Yeah, we just made our own keycap set check thingy.  I'll have to go laminate it tomorrow.  I totally forgot about this.

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Re: BSP PBT Dye-Sublimation Sets
« Reply #15 on: Tue, 11 June 2013, 18:22:21 »
What profile is the bottom row?

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« Reply #16 on: Tue, 11 June 2013, 18:23:01 »
What profile is the bottom row?

What profile do you prefer? :)

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« Reply #17 on: Tue, 11 June 2013, 18:24:34 »
What profile is the bottom row?

What profile do you prefer? :)

B profile!

That's what all my other caps/spacebars are...

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« Reply #18 on: Tue, 11 June 2013, 18:29:05 »
What profile is the bottom row?

What profile do you prefer? :)

B profile!

That's what all my other caps/spacebars are...

That's what has gone wrong.  If you guys like A profile, then maybe you guys can get it first.  We ordered it in B profile, and that's where it has gone wrong.

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« Reply #19 on: Tue, 11 June 2013, 18:36:32 »
That's what has gone wrong.  If you guys like A profile, then maybe you guys can get it first.  We ordered it in B profile, and that's where it has gone wrong.

Gotcha.  Do you have pics of the green set?  I'm curious about how the color turned out...

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« Reply #20 on: Tue, 11 June 2013, 18:38:38 »
So this has 1.5 bottom mods, a 1x windows key and no spacebar? Could you put this set on one of the cap set checks (I suggested this a while ago, so people know exactly what they're getting)? Could these ship with the Dolch?

Yeah, we just made our own keycap set check thingy.  I'll have to go laminate it tomorrow.  I totally forgot about this.

What about my other questions? Also, what is the most common cherry first row profile?
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« Reply #21 on: Tue, 11 June 2013, 18:39:20 »
That's what has gone wrong.  If you guys like A profile, then maybe you guys can get it first.  We ordered it in B profile, and that's where it has gone wrong.

Gotcha.  Do you have pics of the green set?  I'm curious about how the color turned out...

We were just photographing them, and we had to stop because of the QC during photographing.  I can send you a potato pic though (camera picture).

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« Reply #22 on: Tue, 11 June 2013, 19:08:22 »


Fixed that Tab for you guys!

If you guys noticed, the left Control is B profile while the other keys are A profile.

Only stepped caps lock is available.  Sorry to my winkey fans, but this one is for my winkeyless guys out there!

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Re: BSP PBT Dye-Sublimation Sets
« Reply #23 on: Tue, 11 June 2013, 19:08:46 »
Everyone wanted a Red Alert set in Cherry PBT (or I believe they would want it).

You believed correctly; I want a BSP RA set.

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Re: BSP PBT Dye-Sublimation Sets
« Reply #24 on: Tue, 11 June 2013, 19:12:11 »
Do you think you'd be able to photograph this set next to your beige GMK set? I want to see the colour difference between ABS and PBT.

EDIT : I don't mean the entire set. Just one white ABS key next to a white PBT key and a beige ABS key next to a beige PBT key.

Any chance of this Sherry? :D
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« Reply #25 on: Tue, 11 June 2013, 19:13:27 »
Do you think you'd be able to photograph this set next to your beige GMK set? I want to see the colour difference between ABS and PBT.

EDIT : I don't mean the entire set. Just one white ABS key next to a white PBT key and a beige ABS key next to a beige PBT key.

Any chance of this Sherry? :D

Yeah, in the photo.  The Spacebar is a ABS key by GMK :)

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Re: BSP PBT Dye-Sublimation Sets
« Reply #26 on: Tue, 11 June 2013, 19:14:44 »
Yeah, in the photo.  The Spacebar is a ABS key by GMK :)
I missed that. Thanks. How about an ABS modifier vs PBT modifier?
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« Reply #27 on: Tue, 11 June 2013, 19:15:49 »
Of course!  I'll do that too, but just to let you know... The beige we chose for our ABS is a lot different than the dark grey chosen on the PBT.


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« Reply #28 on: Tue, 11 June 2013, 19:15:55 »
Sherry any plans for the 10keypad, maeby when you get the spacebars you can acquire the10 keypads, or is not worth the hustle due to high MOQ? I do love the fact that it has x1 Window key!!!
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« Reply #29 on: Tue, 11 June 2013, 19:16:47 »
B profile for the win

Could these ship with the Dolch?
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« Reply #30 on: Tue, 11 June 2013, 19:21:09 »
Sherry any plans for the 10keypad, maeby when you get the spacebars you can acquire the10 keypads, or is not worth the hustle due to high MOQ? I do love the fact that it has x1 Window key!!!

I'm not sure if we can do the 10 key pad.  Maybe in the future, I will do BSP sets.  For now, these sets will remain as is.  Perhaps I can get someone to do a group buy for the number pad set, and I will buy the remaining sets.


B profile for the win

Could these ship with the Dolch?

I really hate that I cannot give these sets to you guys ahead of time, because they feel amazing.  I can ship these with the Dolch though.

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« Reply #31 on: Tue, 11 June 2013, 19:22:48 »
Any chance of F and J nubs or without the little bump?

I'll let you know when you send an email about the Dolch sets
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« Reply #32 on: Tue, 11 June 2013, 19:27:57 »
Any chance of F and J nubs or without the little bump?

I'll let you know when you send an email about the Dolch sets

I am not exactly sure of what you mean.  You mean just a regular key?  I'll see what BSP has.  I think they do offer keys without the bump because it is dye subbed.  This might have to be within that group buy though.

Here's a little fact about BSP.  They are the original company who owned the tools from the start.  I believe Cherry ordered sets from them, and they requested their own font. 

A few months ago, I found the little BSP sign on the back of the Backspace key.  I cannot believe no one saw this before.   Soon after that, the Chinese found out about that little logo, and pictures of the logo on the back of the key started popping up.

As always, I did not tell anyone about it because I wanted to surprise you guys (again), but then everyone found out about it, and it was not a surprise anymore (again).

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« Reply #33 on: Tue, 11 June 2013, 19:36:27 »
I'd prefer scoops, then blanks, and then what you show in the pictures


When I said nubs, I meant scoops. sorry
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« Reply #34 on: Tue, 11 June 2013, 20:20:09 »
Sherry any plans for the 10keypad, maeby when you get the spacebars you can acquire the10 keypads, or is not worth the hustle due to high MOQ? I do love the fact that it has x1 Window key!!!

I'm not sure if we can do the 10 key pad.  Maybe in the future, I will do BSP sets.  For now, these sets will remain as is.  Perhaps I can get someone to do a group buy for the number pad set, and I will buy the remaining sets.


B profile for the win

Could these ship with the Dolch?

I really hate that I cannot give these sets to you guys ahead of time, because they feel amazing.  I can ship these with the Dolch though.

thanks Sherry, would love to have full and complete set with space bar and 10 keypad and pair it with the RGB + Esc from the same brand :) Guess I will wait a lil bit longer for that one.
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« Reply #35 on: Tue, 11 June 2013, 20:42:41 »
Sherry any plans for the 10keypad, maeby when you get the spacebars you can acquire the10 keypads, or is not worth the hustle due to high MOQ? I do love the fact that it has x1 Window key!!!

I'm not sure if we can do the 10 key pad.  Maybe in the future, I will do BSP sets.  For now, these sets will remain as is.  Perhaps I can get someone to do a group buy for the number pad set, and I will buy the remaining sets.


B profile for the win

Could these ship with the Dolch?

I really hate that I cannot give these sets to you guys ahead of time, because they feel amazing.  I can ship these with the Dolch though.

thanks Sherry, would love to have full and complete set with space bar and 10 keypad and pair it with the RGB + Esc from the same brand :) Guess I will wait a lil bit longer for that one.

I'd really like to try to satisfy everyone, but it's just hard to with the huge MOQ.

I know there are a lot of ISO people, there's some that love the LED windows, the winkey guys, etc.

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« Reply #36 on: Tue, 11 June 2013, 20:50:08 »
Man, they feel so good with ergo clears...

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« Reply #37 on: Wed, 12 June 2013, 03:06:25 »
Man, they feel so good with ergo clears...

Okay, so where do we pay up for these babies?

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« Reply #38 on: Wed, 12 June 2013, 04:01:17 »

The product, CKS-SHLIV-G81, was for us.  The SHLIV stands for my name, Sheraton Liv.  Do not let anyone fool you that this is their product.  I believe it was wrong that BSP allowed someone to order a small amount, because the MOQ is very high.  I had to order a high amount, and someone jumped on our MOQ somehow.  I have talked with them, and I believe they are going to cancel their order.


Are you talking about this thread? http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43104.0

The same picture is in there so does that mean whoever bought those sets are going to get their order cancelled? This would be upsetting to say the least.

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« Reply #39 on: Wed, 12 June 2013, 04:15:55 »
Yup I would like to ship them together with my Dolch set.

Now, should I or should I now add the PBT RGB set?   
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« Reply #40 on: Wed, 12 June 2013, 18:19:37 »
scoops please
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« Reply #41 on: Wed, 12 June 2013, 18:28:27 »
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« Reply #42 on: Wed, 12 June 2013, 18:59:44 »
Wallethack at its best.
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Well I understand where you're coming from but from someone that drop thousands of dollars on his own to make it happen someone decided to just jump on the MOQ to get the same price is kinda of shady.

I am also pretty sure kboardvintage added on a cost of his own to make it worth his time, who knows maybe the price ends up being the same as that "groupbuy"
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« Reply #43 on: Wed, 12 June 2013, 19:53:52 »
Well I understand where you're coming from but from someone that drop thousands of dollars on his own to make it happen someone decided to just jump on the MOQ to get the same price is kinda of shady.

I am also pretty sure kboardvintage added on a cost of his own to make it worth his time, who knows maybe the price ends up being the same as that "groupbuy"

But you dont see Cherry, Dolch, Desko crying foul or send lawyer letter for using the same colours... Unless you've patented the colour combination, I dont see an problem.
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Re: BSP PBT Dye-Sublimation Sets
« Reply #44 on: Wed, 12 June 2013, 19:54:11 »
I was really hoping you could make a dolch style set that was dye-sub pbt.

Does anyone else think this would be cool?

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« Reply #45 on: Wed, 12 June 2013, 20:13:21 »
Well I understand where you're coming from but from someone that drop thousands of dollars on his own to make it happen someone decided to just jump on the MOQ to get the same price is kinda of shady.

I am also pretty sure kboardvintage added on a cost of his own to make it worth his time, who knows maybe the price ends up being the same as that "groupbuy"

But you dont see Cherry, Dolch, Desko crying foul or send lawyer letter for using the same colours... Unless you've patented the colour combination, I dont see an problem.
"It's just business" I would say. You'll never know if GMK and others decide to jump on the mechanical keyboard trend bandwagon and set up a end-consumer department like QWERkeys.
Your two points has nothing to do with what I was trying to say...

The issue was the MOQ. Since I don't know the details my examples might be exaggerating.

If the MOQ is 100 sets per colour (400 sets total) to get that price, then that means Sherry dropped enough money to get that price for those colours, but kboardvintage having to only buy 30 sets total to get the same price how is that fair for Sherry?

Also as I said, I am pretty sure kboardvintage added on cost to his group buy so who knows maybe the price Sherry is selling it at is more or less the same (for reference the cost was 95,60 € = $127.60 USD)

I was really hoping you could make a dolch style set that was dye-sub pbt.

Does anyone else think this would be cool?
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Re: BSP PBT Dye-Sublimation Sets
« Reply #46 on: Wed, 12 June 2013, 20:25:10 »
can't dyesub on a darker base colour

TIL

Offline Jocelyn

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Re: BSP PBT Dye-Sublimation Sets
« Reply #47 on: Wed, 12 June 2013, 20:26:07 »
I was really hoping you could make a dolch style set that was dye-sub pbt.

Does anyone else think this would be cool?

Gotta wait for PBT Double Shots ;)

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Re: BSP PBT Dye-Sublimation Sets
« Reply #48 on: Wed, 12 June 2013, 20:44:28 »
I'll have these sold as I get some pictures.

I might sell the A profile first for people who wants them.

The price will be $130.


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Re: BSP PBT Dye-Sublimation Sets
« Reply #49 on: Wed, 12 June 2013, 21:03:05 »
I'll have these sold as I get some pictures.

I might sell the A profile first for people who wants them.

The price will be $130.


When? I'm waiting info :)