Author Topic: Topre Keyboards for Europe. (Read 189968 times)

ironman31 · « **Reply #150 on:** Fri, 18 February 2011, 09:31:34 »

Quote from: bugfix;297207

It's their own fault that I'm bugging them about this so much. The Realforce they sold me is awesome and their service is great, no wonder I won't go away ^^

lol. If this US layout all-45g becomes a reality, I was very lucky that I didn't get to purchase the 91UBY.

bugfix · « **Reply #151 on:** Fri, 18 February 2011, 09:37:08 »

Quote from: ironman31;297210

I was very lucky that I didn't get to purchase the 91UBY.

I personally can't stand the yellow keys it has.

RiGS · « **Reply #152 on:** Fri, 18 February 2011, 10:16:45 »

Yeah those are weird.

Twitchy · « **Reply #153 on:** Fri, 18 February 2011, 10:20:41 »

An all 45g tenkeyless in a UK layout please. Oh, and while we're all making wishes...

Can I have that with orange keys please? :biggrin:

*edit* I love my yellow keys!

RiGS · « **Reply #154 on:** Sun, 20 February 2011, 07:31:23 »

Despite the fact that I am in the EU I hate ISO layout. Ansi layout ftw.
white Topre > all other colour Topre

bugfix · « **Reply #155 on:** Tue, 22 February 2011, 15:25:40 »

Quote from: RiGS;298193

white Topre > all other colour Topre

I agree. While I really like my black Topre, the spacebar is already showing signs of shinyness, after only one month of use.

@Bruce: Will the new tenkeyless also be available in white?

Bruce · « **Reply #156 on:** Tue, 22 February 2011, 15:33:16 »

Topre White Tenkeyless. Is that black print, or is there a white on white?
Sounds nice but I can only ask. I am thinking black on black to be honest and I will have to get them all the same I think.
Are we talking ANSI or ISO now?
Has such a beast been known from Topre before? That always makes a difference.

Bruce · « **Reply #157 on:** Tue, 22 February 2011, 15:33:23 »

Topre White Tenkeyless. Is that black print, or is there a white on white?
Sounds nice but I can only ask. I am thinking black on black to be honest and I will have to get them all the same I think.
Are we talking ANSI or ISO now?
Has such a beast been known from Topre before? That always makes a difference.

RiGS · « **Reply #158 on:** Tue, 22 February 2011, 15:35:47 »

Black print on white keys ansi layout.

bugfix · « **Reply #159 on:** Tue, 22 February 2011, 15:38:14 »

Black on white German ISO

Nah, I'd buy it all as long as it's tenkeyless and Topre.

ironman31 · « **Reply #160 on:** Tue, 22 February 2011, 15:38:44 »

There hasn't been an all45g in any layout besides japanese, I don't think

RiGS · « **Reply #161 on:** Tue, 22 February 2011, 15:41:10 »

Black on blacks are hard to see in the dark and they are tend to get shiny faster. Also white keyboard is more aesthetically pleasing.
All 45g is better for gaming and ISO layout with the shorter left shift doesn't make any sense. I also think uniform 45g ANSI would definitely get more interest over US geekhackers.
Are the new models have the integrated virtual numpad?

Bruce · « **Reply #162 on:** Tue, 22 February 2011, 15:43:06 »

I am getting all 45g on these.
Also they are going to send me an all 30g sample to look at but that would come later.

bugfix · « **Reply #163 on:** Tue, 22 February 2011, 15:47:04 »

Quote from: Bruce;299496

I am getting all 45g on these.

Nice, although by now I'm used to the weighted keys.

Edit: Will the price be the same as for the 86U? And will these new ones have the LEDs integrated into the keys (like the87u) or separate like on the 86U?

db_Iodine · « **Reply #164 on:** Tue, 22 February 2011, 15:50:37 »

Quote from: Bruce;299496

I am getting all 45g on these.
Also they are going to send me an all 30g sample to look at but that would come later.

All 30g? Man, that has got to be one featherweight keyboard.

bugfix · « **Reply #165 on:** Tue, 22 February 2011, 15:53:01 »

Quote from: db_Iodine;299499

All 30g? Man, that has got to be one featherweight keyboard.

Yeah, I doubt I would like that. IMHO the 30g on my Realforce don't feel as "pronounced" as the 45g keys.

vynn · « **Reply #166 on:** Tue, 22 February 2011, 23:55:29 »

Quote from: Bruce;299496

I am getting all 45g on these.

which layout?

Bruce · « **Reply #167 on:** Wed, 23 February 2011, 05:56:23 »

Layouts are going to be UK, German, French and Swede/Finn and USA.
It is colour, weight and print type I am still deciding on.

bugfix · « **Reply #168 on:** Wed, 23 February 2011, 06:02:37 »

I for one would really like a white one.

Printed/blank or Uniform/weighted don't really matter that much to me personally.

ironman31 · « **Reply #169 on:** Wed, 23 February 2011, 06:41:39 »

Quote from: Bruce;299755

Layouts are going to be UK, German, French and Swede/Finn and USA.
It is colour, weight and print type I am still deciding on.

Go Yellow!

guilleguillaume · « **Reply #170 on:** Wed, 23 February 2011, 07:03:21 »

I don't understand why but I'm thinking about those Topres while I already have the Realforce 91UBY...that's madness!

bugfix · « **Reply #171 on:** Wed, 23 February 2011, 08:08:54 »

Can't be bad to have a backup.

ironman31 · « **Reply #172 on:** Wed, 23 February 2011, 08:15:50 »

Quote from: guilleguillaume;299773

I don't understand why but I'm thinking about those Topres while I already have the Realforce 91UBY...that's madness!

you could sell it to me and buy yourself a new one

Psykal · « **Reply #173 on:** Wed, 23 February 2011, 09:09:13 »

Are these tenkeyless boards?

Quote from: ironman31;299768

Go Yellow!

Seconding this!

RiGS · « **Reply #174 on:** Wed, 02 March 2011, 13:48:16 »

Quote from: Bruce;299755

Layouts are going to be UK, German, French and Swede/Finn and USA.
It is colour, weight and print type I am still deciding on.

Any update on the color of the USA layout Realforce?
Are the new models have the integrated virtual numpad?

Bruce · « **Reply #175 on:** Wed, 02 March 2011, 13:58:04 »

I think I am going to go with Black on Black. It seemed likely to have the widest appeal.

What's the virtual number pad? Is that embedded in the qwerty section on a function key press? Not sure about that, it hasn't been mentioned.

guilleguillaume · « **Reply #176 on:** Wed, 02 March 2011, 14:20:11 »

Bruce if I'm not wrong it works like on the Noppoo that when you press the Num Block you use this part to use the virtual number pad:

RiGS · « **Reply #177 on:** Wed, 02 March 2011, 14:34:49 »

Too bad I think the black on white Realforce is a better option.
It won't get shiny like the black one and the lettering is visible in the dark.
However a poll on this would be interesting.

Bruce · « **Reply #178 on:** Wed, 02 March 2011, 15:34:20 »

I'd be interested in a poll.
3 way choice?

Black on Black
White/Gold on Black
Black on White.

RiGS · « **Reply #179 on:** Wed, 02 March 2011, 16:13:02 »

I have created a 3 way choice poll.
http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?t=15808

RiGS · « **Reply #180 on:** Wed, 02 March 2011, 17:47:57 »

Quote from: Bruce;303565

What's the virtual number pad? Is that embedded in the qwerty section on a function key press? Not sure about that, it hasn't been mentioned.

Here is a picture of it. Windowed keys would be also nice.

Bruce · « **Reply #181 on:** Wed, 02 March 2011, 18:03:13 »

Thank You, that's excellent.
Early days but it is already indicating some rapid rethink may be needed......

javifast · « **Reply #182 on:** Wed, 02 March 2011, 18:06:02 »

I'd like a 55g ISO 88UW.

RiGS · « **Reply #183 on:** Sun, 06 March 2011, 15:32:52 »

Any updates Bruce?

db_Iodine · « **Reply #184 on:** Mon, 07 March 2011, 07:34:56 »

Hey Bruce. Thanks for offering US layout keyboards for those of us who are mad enough to prefer that one. I just got fed up with waiting for my local Realforce dealer to stock the Realforce tenkeyeless, and ordered a 86UB from you. I'm really looking forward to getting my first Realforce!

MF_ · « **Reply #185 on:** Wed, 09 March 2011, 11:29:06 »

Does the Realforce 86U have the integrated numpad?

ironman31 · « **Reply #186 on:** Wed, 09 March 2011, 11:44:49 »

RiGS · « **Reply #187 on:** Wed, 09 March 2011, 11:47:45 »

Quote from: MF_;308534

Does the Realforce 86U have the integrated numpad?

Nope. However, I would prefer the 86U with nums/leds over the 87U.

MF_ · « **Reply #188 on:** Wed, 09 March 2011, 13:06:20 »

Thanks. I hope they will stock it.

db_Iodine · « **Reply #189 on:** Wed, 09 March 2011, 13:27:33 »

I find that the integrated numpad that I have on my Noppoo and Ducky is absolutely useless to me. Because the keys aren't aligned like they are on a normal numpad, it's much harder to use them. I'll just stick with learning to touch type the number row.

RiGS · « **Reply #190 on:** Wed, 09 March 2011, 13:34:56 »

I made that layout with autohotkey and I found it very comfortable for excel.
I also think the windowed keycaps are very nice.

wanabe · « **Reply #191 on:** Thu, 10 March 2011, 16:23:04 »

Bruce - If you can get a custom order with RF, can you try and get a more consistent look for the modifiers? something about the font sizing and/or alignment makes it look off to my eye.

For instance...
-the "Tab" and "Caps Lock" use a larger font than "Shift", "Ctrl", and "Alt"
-the "Home" key is printed even smaller than the word "Home" on the 7 numpad key
-My "Page Down" looks slightly bolded compared to "Page Up"

maybe it's just me, anyone else see this?

ironman31 · « **Reply #192 on:** Thu, 10 March 2011, 16:42:02 »

Quote from: wanabe;309412

Bruce - If you can get a custom order with RF, can you try and get a more consistent look for the modifiers? something about the font sizing and/or alignment makes it look off to my eye.

For instance...
-the "Tab" and "Caps Lock" use a larger font than "Shift", "Ctrl", and "Alt"
-the "Home" key is printed even smaller than the word "Home" on the 7 numpad key
-My "Page Down" looks slightly bolded compared to "Page Up"

maybe it's just me, anyone else see this?

I see it too, but I don't really care about it.

wanabe · « **Reply #193 on:** Mon, 14 March 2011, 16:49:12 »

yeah it doesn't really bug me all that much. it's more like "really? you chose to use 5 different fonts for the modifiers? really??"

grilkip · « **Reply #194 on:** Tue, 15 March 2011, 18:06:00 »

Having tried both all 55g and variable Realforces, I can say that I think an all 45g board would be a great idea, regardless of color schemes.

55g feels nice and firm but it gets a bit tiring after typing for duration, I find the variable pretty nice but the light keys such as A are just a tad too light.

db_Iodine · « **Reply #195 on:** Wed, 16 March 2011, 04:26:38 »

Quote from: kalrykh;312490

I have a 45g topre and I think the sex that is topre is lost on the lighter switch.

So do you prefer the 55g Topre to a 45g Topre? I think the 55g feels a bit too stiff for my taste and the 45g just perfect. The lighter keys do indeed feel a bit too light and lack the proper tactile feedback.

ironman31 · « **Reply #196 on:** Wed, 16 March 2011, 06:02:54 »

Quote from: db_Iodine;312560

So do you prefer the 55g Topre to a 45g Topre? I think the 55g feels a bit too stiff for my taste and the 45g just perfect. The lighter keys do indeed feel a bit too light and lack the proper tactile feedback.

For me it all depends on what I'm doing, gaming and typing in long sections I prefer the variable, but gaming and coding I use the all55g

db_Iodine · « **Reply #197 on:** Wed, 16 March 2011, 06:41:13 »

I love my variable for typing but I can definitely notice a difference between the force in s and d which might affect my gaming a bit. Also the force required for qaz seems to bit even lower and I use those keys for gaming as well.

RiGS · « **Reply #198 on:** Thu, 17 March 2011, 06:45:59 »

At this point I don't like the the 45g domes, and I do not intersted in them any longer. They have to much tactility to my taste.
My favourite domes in my 105U are the lightest 35g domes. Those are awesome.
I hope Keyboard Co will sell an all 35g tenkeyless Realforce in the future.

keyboardlover · « **Reply #199 on:** Thu, 17 March 2011, 06:47:12 »

Why don't you just get a tenkeyless Filco with reds then? Pretty similar.

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Author Topic: Topre Keyboards for Europe. (Read 189968 times)