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    • Classifieds Post Content 
      Only list for sale or trade items that are already in your possession.  Include clear photographs of your items (in good light -- no blurry night-time “potato shots”) along with your Geekhack.org user name and the date the photograph was taken. (Example)

      All items for sale must include an explicit price.  If you are unsure how much an item is worth, you may ask in the Price Check thread. If you are not satisfied with that option and prefer an auction, you can always list your items on eBay and similar sites. It is the responsibility of the seller to determine the exchange rate if the transaction includes multiple currencies.

      Trade-only threads/items do not require an explicit listed price.

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      If you are trying to sell your spot in a group buy, you should do so in the corresponding group buy thread instead of in the Classifieds.

      All updates and changes to sale/trade terms, price drops, temporary price drops or additions must be done in the first post of your Classifieds thread, which you are always able to edit. They should not be on a random page in your Classifieds thread.  When you update your original post, you should also update the thread title to reflect the changes.  If you would like to keep a rolling thread that you use to sell many items over a long period of time, that is allowed as long as you keep it clean and up-to-date. 

      Old sales thread are a valuable resource for determining fair market prices.  Please don't remove useful information such as items sold and their prices from your OPs.  Please make sure your thread titles reflect what was offered in the thread, so that future users browsing old threads will be able to see at a glance whether they're interested in looking at your threads.

    • Discussion in sale threads
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    • Bumping
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Re: Upcoming changes to the Classifieds Rules. Please have a look!
« Reply #1 on: Tue, 11 February 2014, 18:32:30 »
Wow so we're doing 25 posts + 2 months now. Good idea

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Re: Upcoming changes to the Classifieds Rules. Please have a look!
« Reply #2 on: Tue, 11 February 2014, 18:38:04 »
Thank you team GH. So glad we don't have to deal with auctions anymore. #teamjdcarpe

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Re: Upcoming changes to the Classifieds Rules. Please have a look!
« Reply #3 on: Tue, 11 February 2014, 18:41:55 »
I don't like the picture rule. It's one of those things that exists to avoid issues with a few ****ty sellers at the expense of annoying the majority of good ones. I've happily provided pictures to everyone who has requested them in my sales, and I've requested pictures from others as well. But when dealing with trusted individuals, I just don't care.

But that's, just, like, my opinion, man.

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Re: Upcoming changes to the Classifieds Rules. Please have a look!
« Reply #4 on: Tue, 11 February 2014, 19:12:46 »
So, do we need to retake pictures of everything we have in our sale threads and add our usernames/timestamp to them? Cause for some people (me included) that would be a not insignificant amount of pictures to retake.

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Re: Upcoming changes to the Classifieds Rules. Please have a look!
« Reply #5 on: Tue, 11 February 2014, 19:15:38 »
One signed photo per item is sufficient.  There's still plenty of time before the new rules take effect.

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Re: Upcoming changes to the Classifieds Rules. Please have a look!
« Reply #6 on: Tue, 11 February 2014, 21:53:06 »
So when do things start changing?

Also a thread linking here stickied in the classifieds might help bring some attention to it.
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Re: Upcoming changes to the Classifieds Rules. Please have a look!
« Reply #7 on: Tue, 11 February 2014, 22:10:44 »
    Conducting auctions is not condoned in the Classifieds subforum.  We lack appropriate software infrastructure and legal means to maintain auctions and ensure fair terms for everyone.  If you wish to sell your items as auctions, please use appropriate sites, such as eBay.  You may link your external auctions in the “External Auctions” subforum (to be added).[/li][/list]

    Some good changes overall but auctions are still a gray area. If a subforum is on it's way for ebay links, etc. why not just ban them altogether and rid of the back and forth regarding auctions?

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    Re: Upcoming changes to the Classifieds Rules. Please have a look!
    « Reply #8 on: Wed, 12 February 2014, 00:51:34 »
    While I like most of the changes I am not sure if a complete ban on auctions is a good thing or not.  I know I have conducted a decently run auction (got delayed a touch on sending the pieces out) but it was for a negative profit (donated to GH) and was hoping to do it again sometime depending on if I found something I was willing to part with and could pick it up for a decent price.  That would however be the only reason I would conduct an auction.  Not to get the most money into my pocket but to help raise money for GH.
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    « Reply #9 on: Wed, 12 February 2014, 12:34:50 »
    While I like most of the changes I am not sure if a complete ban on auctions is a good thing or not.  I know I have conducted a decently run auction (got delayed a touch on sending the pieces out) but it was for a negative profit (donated to GH) and was hoping to do it again sometime depending on if I found something I was willing to part with and could pick it up for a decent price.  That would however be the only reason I would conduct an auction.  Not to get the most money into my pocket but to help raise money for GH.

    While it's admirable to run charity auctions the fact of the matter is you could just as easily run something on ebay and donate it after, couldn't you?

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    « Reply #10 on: Wed, 12 February 2014, 12:37:17 »
    While I like most of the changes I am not sure if a complete ban on auctions is a good thing or not.  I know I have conducted a decently run auction (got delayed a touch on sending the pieces out) but it was for a negative profit (donated to GH) and was hoping to do it again sometime depending on if I found something I was willing to part with and could pick it up for a decent price.  That would however be the only reason I would conduct an auction.  Not to get the most money into my pocket but to help raise money for GH.

    While it's admirable to run charity auctions the fact of the matter is you could just as easily run something on ebay and donate it after, couldn't you?

    I could but running the auction here would also have the benefit of keeping the board in the Geekhack community plus then I wouldn't have to deal with ebays seller fees.  I realize that they need to make money but it would be cutting into the donation.  But don't they already run ads on their site?
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    Re: Upcoming changes to the Classifieds Rules. Please have a look!
    « Reply #11 on: Wed, 12 February 2014, 12:39:52 »
    While I like most of the changes I am not sure if a complete ban on auctions is a good thing or not.  I know I have conducted a decently run auction (got delayed a touch on sending the pieces out) but it was for a negative profit (donated to GH) and was hoping to do it again sometime depending on if I found something I was willing to part with and could pick it up for a decent price.  That would however be the only reason I would conduct an auction.  Not to get the most money into my pocket but to help raise money for GH.

    While it's admirable to run charity auctions the fact of the matter is you could just as easily run something on ebay and donate it after, couldn't you?

    IMO: Charity auctions should be allowed, but only if one is granted permission to do so by a mod/admin.  Being forced to run a charity auction for GH on eBay would be a pain, especially considering that people from outside of GH can become involved, not to mention eBay ad fees, etc.
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    Re: Upcoming changes to the Classifieds Rules. Please have a look!
    « Reply #12 on: Wed, 12 February 2014, 16:04:12 »
    Ebay fees suck

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    « Reply #13 on: Wed, 12 February 2014, 16:52:58 »
    Ebay fees suck

    But they buy you buyer / seller protection.
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    « Reply #14 on: Wed, 12 February 2014, 17:32:23 »
    I don't like the picture rule. It's one of those things that exists to avoid issues with a few ****ty sellers at the expense of annoying the majority of good ones. I've happily provided pictures to everyone who has requested them in my sales, and I've requested pictures from others as well. But when dealing with trusted individuals, I just don't care.

    But that's, just, like, my opinion, man.

    I think having a picture is good for newbies like me who don't always understand the geekhack speech (acronyms and whatnot). I learn a lot about what's out there by browsing the classifieds!
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    Re: Upcoming changes to the Classifieds Rules. Please have a look!
    « Reply #15 on: Thu, 13 February 2014, 14:11:57 »
    I loved the auctions here, and its sad to see them go. I agree they should be changed but NOT eliminated entirely. A separate thread for auctions from the classifieds would have been a better fix IMO, cut down on classifieds clutter and constant bumps. Auctions should be controlled by the "seller" and wouldn't need mod interference, you get sniped or bid ignored? Oh well its under the "sellers terms". All of the auctions i have participated in were clear and cut on the rules, and if i "felt some type of way" about how things went down, i cant really say much as by placing my bid i agreed to the auction terms.

    As for unpaid/shill bidding. Ebay is still plagued by unpayers and shill bidding, so i don't really see how using an offsite auction site will prevent this, and frankly i dont have a solution for this other than go down the list of previous bids until you find someone who pays.

    Overall if you are worried about being scammed by someone you dont trust, just pony up the extra 3% on paypal fees and have the piece of mind everything will go smoothly. If the deal falls through, paypal will refund your payment since the seller wont have proof of a parcel (offsite protection, with dealings on GH).

    Afterall this is the internet and you can't trust everyone. I thought GH was a "community" and moves like this are making the site less and less personal. There is always going to be grey areas/shady people you may deal with, but eliminating auctions all together isnt the answer  :(
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    « Reply #16 on: Thu, 13 February 2014, 14:18:13 »
    Yay for reduced post quantity. Not a heavy poster and have yet to post enough to create in classifieds but soon I can it seems. Have had to resort to a silly attempt to sell in the signature for now but hope to eventually find somebody interested in buying those I don't have.
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    « Reply #17 on: Thu, 13 February 2014, 14:34:32 »
    Pretty good changes imo

    I really don't know how to feel about auctions, if you are auctioning, you are trying to get the highest price you possibly can, right? So why not just sell it or list it for a higher price than you normally would, and if it isn't selling, then lower the price a bit. Yes ebay fees are not fun to pay but I still end up selling most of my stuff on ebay, their buyer/seller protection is good and I haven't ever gotten ripped off in the years I have been using ebay.

    Every time I saw an auction on here, I didn't even bother trying to get the item because it just seemed like a pain.

    Reduced post count rule should really cut down on the random posts everyone makes in an attempt to get to 60 posts.

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    « Reply #18 on: Thu, 13 February 2014, 14:57:56 »
    I never did like Auctions. I say put the price you want. The end.
    Was that so hard?

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    « Reply #19 on: Thu, 13 February 2014, 15:26:02 »
    I don't mind auctions either way but I would really like if we could at least allow charity auctions where proceeds are donated back to GH.
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    « Reply #20 on: Thu, 13 February 2014, 16:07:37 »
    I don't think I'll be doing anymore charity auctions myself. Honestly, most of the time they settle at a single price within a day and then nothing happens for a week and the person who hit the price just has to wait a week to get their stuff shipped.

    I've already talked this over with the mod team and we decided together that it's not a big deal. I'd rather just make cool stuff and then sell it for the site, quite frankly. The auction thing was fun at first, long ago when we first ran them, but there's so much activity in the classifieds section now that charity auctions tend to get lost after N hours for N < 24

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    « Reply #21 on: Fri, 14 February 2014, 09:20:02 »
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    Does that mean I can't have something for sale on both DT and GH?
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    « Reply #22 on: Fri, 14 February 2014, 09:28:05 »
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    Please do not cross-post your sale/trade items here if you have already listed them on another website.

    Does that mean I can't have something for sale on both DT and GH?

    This is a silly rule, IMO.

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    « Reply #23 on: Fri, 14 February 2014, 09:31:07 »
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    Please do not cross-post your sale/trade items here if you have already listed them on another website.

    Does that mean I can't have something for sale on both DT and GH?

    ahh, I read that rule to mean : don't post a thread saying check out my crap for sale over at "http://othersite.ru" .... but maybe I'm wrong about that.  If that's the case, the rule should be more explict in what it means.

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    Re: Upcoming changes to the Classifieds Rules. Please have a look!
    « Reply #24 on: Fri, 14 February 2014, 09:31:12 »
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    Please do not cross-post your sale/trade items here if you have already listed them on another website.

    Does that mean I can't have something for sale on both DT and GH?

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    Please do not cross-post your sale/trade items here if you have already listed them on another website.

    Does that mean I can't have something for sale on both DT and GH?

    This is a silly rule, IMO.

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    « Reply #25 on: Fri, 14 February 2014, 09:32:52 »
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    Please do not cross-post your sale/trade items here if you have already listed them on another website.

    Does that mean I can't have something for sale on both DT and GH?

    This is a silly rule, IMO.

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    « Reply #26 on: Fri, 14 February 2014, 09:36:38 »
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    Please do not cross-post your sale/trade items here if you have already listed them on another website.

    Does that mean I can't have something for sale on both DT and GH?

    surely you guys have different user names other places :P

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    « Reply #27 on: Fri, 14 February 2014, 09:37:26 »
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    Please do not cross-post your sale/trade items here if you have already listed them on another website.

    Does that mean I can't have something for sale on both DT and GH?

    This is a silly rule, IMO.

    I agree. We've had classifieds in print (newspapers and the like) for centuries, and posting classified ads has worked well through all that time.

    A decent compromise would be to have the seller link external site forum topics, but I feel this boils down to individual choice on the seller's part. If a seller is trying to double-sell, he will easily do that anyways: nothing is stopping you from signing up multiple accounts with different names and taking pictures from different locations.

    Really, all this rule really does is annoy legit users who just want to sell their stuff faster by hitting the maximum number of eyeballs.

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    You should only list for sale or trade items that are already in your possession and include clear photographs of your items (in good light, no blurry night-time “potato shots”) along with your GeekHack.org user name and date the photograph was taken.

    Not sure how that works for people who proxy stuff... Maybe some kind of arrangement with mods?

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    Re: Upcoming changes to the Classifieds Rules. Please have a look!
    « Reply #28 on: Fri, 14 February 2014, 09:37:41 »
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    Please do not cross-post your sale/trade items here if you have already listed them on another website.

    Does that mean I can't have something for sale on both DT and GH?

    surely you guys have different user names other places :P

    We don't, ray4jc :<

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    « Reply #29 on: Fri, 14 February 2014, 09:40:28 »
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    Please do not cross-post your sale/trade items here if you have already listed them on another website.

    Does that mean I can't have something for sale on both DT and GH?

    surely you guys have different user names other places :p

    We don't, ray4jc :<


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    « Reply #30 on: Fri, 14 February 2014, 09:50:29 »
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    Please do not cross-post your sale/trade items here if you have already listed them on another website.

    Does that mean I can't have something for sale on both DT and GH?

    ahh, I read that rule to mean : don't post a thread saying check out my crap for sale over at "http://othersite.ru" .... but maybe I'm wrong about that.  If that's the case, the rule should be more explict in what it means.
    It could mean that. It just wasn't too clear to me what it meant. Wanted to get clarification.
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    « Reply #31 on: Fri, 14 February 2014, 09:51:36 »
    Yup, that's what it means!  Or Reddit and GH.  One at a time.
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    « Reply #32 on: Fri, 14 February 2014, 09:53:22 »
    Yup, that's what it means!  Or Reddit and GH.  One at a time.

    Ahh, so no problem in selling at two different sites, just no linking here?

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    « Reply #33 on: Fri, 14 February 2014, 09:54:41 »
    Yup, that's what it means!  Or Reddit and GH.  One at a time.

    Ahh, so no problem in selling at two different sites, just no linking here?

    It's more for listing the same item in 2+ places at once.  We've had someone try to do an auction on reddit and link it here for more bids and replies, for example.  That was an extreme case, but a bit shady in terms of logistics.
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    Re: Upcoming changes to the Classifieds Rules. Please have a look!
    « Reply #34 on: Fri, 14 February 2014, 09:54:44 »
    Yup, that's what it means!  Or Reddit and GH.  One at a time.

    Sorry, but which interpretation are you referring to?

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    « Reply #35 on: Fri, 14 February 2014, 09:55:45 »
    Yup, that's what it means!  Or Reddit and GH.  One at a time.

    Ahh, so no problem in selling at two different sites, just no linking here?

    It's more for listing the same item in 2+ places at once.  We've had someone try to do an auction on reddit and link it here for more bids and replies, for example.  That was an extreme case, but a bit shady in terms of logistics.

    OK, so the rule is the one we don't like. :(

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    « Reply #36 on: Fri, 14 February 2014, 09:57:25 »
    Edit: This wasn't constructive.
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    « Reply #37 on: Fri, 14 February 2014, 10:08:54 »
    Yup, that's what it means!  Or Reddit and GH.  One at a time.

    Ahh, so no problem in selling at two different sites, just no linking here?

    It's more for listing the same item in 2+ places at once.  We've had someone try to do an auction on reddit and link it here for more bids and replies, for example.  That was an extreme case, but a bit shady in terms of logistics.

    Way to Corporate Doublespeak™

    First you say you don't want "hey checkout my auction here http://xxxxxxxxxxx/"kind of threads bu posting a proper ad is fine.. but then, BUT a post later, you say that you don't want the same item listed in multiple places.

    I can understand banning auctions (that **** goes in great finds), but this isn't how classified ads work. At all.

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    « Reply #38 on: Fri, 14 February 2014, 10:11:35 »
    No, that's not the same thing, if you think about it.  Linking external auctions in a separate subforum is really for eBay links only, and bids are done through eBay.

    The double-selling rule is for not creating "WTS" threads for the same thing here, and say, on reddit, where you're taking orders from both websites for the same item.
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    « Reply #39 on: Fri, 14 February 2014, 10:14:02 »
    No, that's not the same thing, if you think about it.  Linking external auctions in a separate subforum is really for eBay links only, and bids are done through eBay.

    The double-selling rule is for not creating "WTS" threads for the same thing here, and say, on reddit, where you're taking orders from both websites for the same item.

    Wait, now I'm confused...

    So linking to eBay ads is allowed, but double posting the same ad on GH and say, DT or Reddit, is NOT allowed?

    Is above statement accurate?
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    « Reply #40 on: Fri, 14 February 2014, 10:14:24 »
    The double-selling rule is for not creating "WTS" threads for the same thing here, and say, on reddit, where you're taking orders from both websites for the same item.
    What's the reasoning behind this rule? I just don't see how it can help anything. It would be great if you could explain to me.
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    « Reply #41 on: Fri, 14 February 2014, 10:14:47 »
    The double-selling rule is for not creating "WTS" threads for the same thing here, and say, on reddit, where you're taking orders from both websites for the same item.

    See, this is how it works in paper ads: you list in 5-6 different places, you see a few buyers/sellers, once you reach an agreement, you make the sale. Done. The ads go down. The End. Everyone is happy (assuming the seller delivers, ofc). It's worked for centuires, why change accepted wisdom?

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    « Reply #42 on: Fri, 14 February 2014, 10:21:54 »
    The double-selling rule is for not creating "WTS" threads for the same thing here, and say, on reddit, where you're taking orders from both websites for the same item.
    What's the reasoning behind this rule? I just don't see how it can help anything. It would be great if you could explain to me.

    Well there was that one guy who was selling that keyboard in about 4 different places that he traded for but didn't send his part of the trade.

    I would think it would be ok to do so long as it was noted in the OP, something like 'This 'item' also listed at DT', etc....but that is just like my opinion.

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    « Reply #43 on: Fri, 14 February 2014, 10:25:19 »
    The double-selling rule is for not creating "WTS" threads for the same thing here, and say, on reddit, where you're taking orders from both websites for the same item.
    What's the reasoning behind this rule? I just don't see how it can help anything. It would be great if you could explain to me.

    Well there was that one guy who was selling that keyboard in about 4 different places that he traded for but didn't send his part of the trade.

    I would think it would be ok to do so long as it was noted in the OP, something like 'This 'item' also listed at DT', etc....but that is just like my opinion.

    I agree, if you want to post an ad in multiple places you should be able to so long as you post links to every other ad in each OP.
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    « Reply #44 on: Fri, 14 February 2014, 10:27:37 »
    The logic was transparency. 

    Please keep in mind that these are not the 100% final rules.  They were posted here for review specifically an early announcement of changes, the direction of the changes, and also to collect feedback.  Constructive feedback with pros and cons for points of contention is noted.
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    « Reply #45 on: Fri, 14 February 2014, 10:36:12 »
    Is it possible to put a sticky link to this thread here

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?board=59.0

    so people will know to read through this and be able to share feedback

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    « Reply #46 on: Fri, 14 February 2014, 10:40:16 »
    In my opinion if you want to link an item you want to sell in multiple places but it needs to be very clear that you are only going to take bids in one place and it should be stated in all link locations. 

    Essentially, it should be ok to sell an item on DT, and then be able to post a thread on reddit, GH, what ever site, but you will only accept bids on the DT site as that is the actual sale thread and all others are just in place to increase exposure.  The note about accepting bids on the original thread needs to be very transparent and that all other offers, bids and such will be ignored.  Questions regarding said items should be ok but no money transfer except for the original forum.  In this case DT.
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    « Reply #47 on: Fri, 14 February 2014, 10:43:41 »
    I don't have a problem with people posting an item for sale on multiple sites, as long as they make it VERY CLEAR that the item is posted for sale elsewhere, and probably link to the ad on the other site(s).

    If it's to be an auction, which will no longer be allowed on GH, then it should go in the External Auctions subforum.
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    « Reply #48 on: Fri, 14 February 2014, 10:45:23 »
    If you're not allowed to post on GH without a firm price (this is a good rule), then what do we gain by preventing someone from posting on multiple forums? If I PM a seller to buy an item at their stated price and find out that they're holding a private bidding war, I can just report their actions and have the thread locked/etc.

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    « Reply #49 on: Mon, 17 February 2014, 14:56:16 »
    When do these rules go into practice?