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« Reply #1 on: Sun, 04 March 2012, 19:45:36 »
Also,  people are reporting the catleap hitting 80-90 refresh rates.
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« Reply #2 on: Sun, 04 March 2012, 19:52:53 »
i'd say this is a gamble. the HP zr2740w that most likely uses the same panel that this uses but has a warranty, better electronics, probably a higher panel binning, and an actual stand, is only like 650. i think the only reason to go for these is if you're one of these anti-glare nazis that can't deal with matte coatings.

also i'm not too surprised about the price differential. a large portion of these LG panels are made in korea, so all of these monitors are about 30% less over there.

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« Reply #3 on: Sun, 04 March 2012, 20:32:05 »
good luck finding an hp zr27 right now at that price,  as of right now 1 seller on amazon ($700) has these.  0 on ebay.  0 on newegg.  0 on tigerdirect. Alot of people are buying these right now and not having any problems with the non tempered glass versions.  This is a very good deal for someone who wants a high res ips panel and not break the bank.  This is coming from someone with an Hp zr30w.

If your an anti glare nazi you can just get the apple cinema display.  Buying anything like this is a gamble but you can see from the threads I linked lots of people are happy with their purchases especially the catleaps which are hitting 80+ refresh rates.
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« Reply #4 on: Sun, 04 March 2012, 20:39:12 »
b&h has them: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?Ntt=zr2740w&N=0&InitialSearch=yes

otoh i'm glad to see prices head downward for the new LG LED IPS panels, but personally i wouldn't risk it with the defect rates i've been seeing (in the past two years i've been through 2x u2410s, 1x 2312hm, 1x zr2740w). then again, i have a working u2711 and a 23" ips companion for it already..

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« Reply #5 on: Sun, 04 March 2012, 20:49:21 »
Ya I know the feeling, I went through 3 zr30's before I got one without any dead or stuck/bright pixels
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« Reply #6 on: Sun, 04 March 2012, 20:52:06 »
yah seriously. at this point i absolutely will not buy an LCD without the ability to return + warranty.

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« Reply #7 on: Sun, 04 March 2012, 21:03:53 »
Apparently some of the sellers only pack it with bubblewrap.  To me it's not worth taking the risk of something going wrong and then creating a bigger time/money sink.

Also the lack of inputs kind of bothers me.
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« Reply #8 on: Sun, 04 March 2012, 21:04:13 »
I bought the catleap a few days ago. Cancelled my u2412m order for it.

For $400 I can buy a 2nd one if it fails. I can live with a couple dead pixels. I also prefer glossy so it was a no brainer. 90hz is just a huge bonus :)
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« Reply #9 on: Sun, 04 March 2012, 21:12:58 »
bini, does the catleap have vesa mount holes?

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« Reply #10 on: Sun, 04 March 2012, 21:15:46 »
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I bought the catleap a few days ago. Cancelled my u2412m order for it.

For $400 I can buy a 2nd one if it fails. I can live with a couple dead pixels. I also prefer glossy so it was a no brainer. 90hz is just a huge bonus :)

I would love to see an in-depth review from a geekhacker,  dunno why I just put more stock into what someone on here thinks of a product over other forums.  Maybe its a community thing or maybe its that I know how OCD most of us keyboard people are!

I may pick one up to landscape next to my zr30 and at that price its a fuking steal even if I get a dead/bright pixel,  it should be fine the way its packed but the problem is that its handledy by DHL once in the states and they are godawful when it comes to small package.
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« Reply #11 on: Sun, 04 March 2012, 21:16:22 »
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bini, does the catleap have vesa mount holes?

yes,  I think you have to remove the stand though.  and by remove I mean eithor dremel it off or break out the hacksaw.
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« Reply #12 on: Sun, 04 March 2012, 21:35:02 »
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bini, does the catleap have vesa mount holes?

yeah, they are behind the curved plastic thing in the back.

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yes,  I think you have to remove the stand though.  and by remove I mean eithor dremel it off or break out the hacksaw.

not from what i've heard. there's a way to pop it off. one guy said his game partially broken off so he just popped it off. it doesn't serve any purpose. it's simply for looks.

and i'll be sure to post up my thoughts once i get it. the seller just marked it at shipped a few hours ago so i'm crossing my fingers that i'll get it by the end of the week...unless customs eats it for awhile.
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« Reply #13 on: Sun, 04 March 2012, 21:50:52 »
ok, keep us updated!

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« Reply #14 on: Sun, 04 March 2012, 22:15:49 »
Hmn... you're going to need a step down transformer for these to use in America. They are 220v type C or European standard. Not a huge fan of glossy, but not a hater either. I'm more concerned about long term reliability since these are sort of 'off-brand' I guess. I think I will keep waiting to see how LG's upcoming DM line pans out before I buy a new display. If prices on those are like the BN series they will be pretty competitive, and from a known brand able to buy in US with a valid warranty, etc.

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« Reply #15 on: Sun, 04 March 2012, 22:23:45 »
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Hmn... you're going to need a step down transformer for these to use in America. They are 220v type C or European standard. Not a huge fan of glossy, but not a hater either. I'm more concerned about long term reliability since these are sort of 'off-brand' I guess. I think I will keep waiting to see how LG's upcoming DM line pans out before I buy a new display. If prices on those are like the BN series they will be pretty competitive, and from a known brand able to buy in US with a valid warranty, etc.

you don't need a step down converter. that was one of the first things to be confirmed. just need to swap out the power cable for a US one.
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« Reply #16 on: Sun, 04 March 2012, 22:32:15 »
Just something I noticed in the listing, so my bad for not being in the know. I didn't look at the forum links at all and didn't see anything to that regard in this thread.

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« Reply #17 on: Sun, 04 March 2012, 22:46:37 »
It comes with a universal brick PSU and a Korean plugged cord.  I'll be watching the market and Bini's reaction closely as my 2408 is starting to have issues.  Dunno if I can get over the shiny screen tho.

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« Reply #18 on: Sun, 04 March 2012, 23:13:42 »
almost all ac-dc boards are 110-220v these days.

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« Reply #19 on: Sun, 04 March 2012, 23:16:02 »
These sell for less then $200 in korea which makes me really sad... cant find something half this decent for under $500 in the USA.

A mod over at OCN tried to organized a GB for these but it fell through because of administrative issues (group buys are against their ToS). Would anyone be interested if I started one? I think prices would be in the $300-$350 range shipped, less then eBay and maybe room for even cheaper if we get enough interest. I wouldn't mind trying if there was enough people and would alert people over at OCN as well because I know there was quite a bit of interest from them. The mod also tried to continue the GB outside of OCN but I don't think much ever came of it.
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« Reply #20 on: Sun, 04 March 2012, 23:20:16 »
not unless you could get some kind of reasonable warranty against defects.

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« Reply #21 on: Mon, 05 March 2012, 00:19:01 »
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Just something I noticed in the listing, so my bad for not being in the know. I didn't look at the forum links at all and didn't see anything to that regard in this thread.

most of the important stuff is in the first post. the OP is doing a good job of keeping the good info there fortunately. the thread is getting out of hand though. it's WAY too much to sift through.
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« Reply #22 on: Mon, 05 March 2012, 00:19:45 »
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not unless you could get some kind of reasonable warranty against defects.

you can buy a 3 year squaretrade warranty for $60.
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« Reply #23 on: Mon, 05 March 2012, 01:53:59 »
Some were wondering if that's even valid because it's a Korean product and it's bought from a Korean seller. Something about Squaretrade only valid in the US. But I just called them up and they said their warranty is valid. But it will only go into effect after the first year. It appears that they do offer a 1yr warranty from the manufacturer on ebay, and square-trade only comes into effect after that. I believe if they can't repair they just give you a full refund of the purchase price - warranty cost. So not a bad deal, but if it never breaks in 3 years then you wasted another $60 too.

And it always seems like anything I get an extended warranty for, never breaks...

I ordered one for $375, so we'll see how it turns out. If it looks nice I'll get 2 more + a triple LCD stand for them.

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« Reply #24 on: Mon, 05 March 2012, 02:48:38 »
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Some were wondering if that's even valid because it's a Korean product and it's bought from a Korean seller. Something about Squaretrade only valid in the US. But I just called them up and they said their warranty is valid. But it will only go into effect after the first year. It appears that they do offer a 1yr warranty from the manufacturer on ebay, and square-trade only comes into effect after that. I believe if they can't repair they just give you a full refund of the purchase price - warranty cost. So not a bad deal, but if it never breaks in 3 years then you wasted another $60 too.

And it always seems like anything I get an extended warranty for, never breaks...

I ordered one for $375, so we'll see how it turns out. If it looks nice I'll get 2 more + a triple LCD stand for them.

some dude posted a screenshot from squaretrade's website. says the warranty goes into effect on the 46th day and it specifically says covers products that are NOT warrantied in the united states.

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« Reply #25 on: Mon, 05 March 2012, 03:15:06 »
Ahh, well I ordered a Catleap from this seller and they advertise 1yr warranty

http://www.ebay.com/itm/110834882557

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« Reply #26 on: Mon, 05 March 2012, 03:41:36 »
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Ahh, well I ordered a Catleap from this seller and they advertise 1yr warranty

http://www.ebay.com/itm/110834882557

yup and you'll have to pay to ship it back to korea, haha. they also warranty it for 15 from date of manufacture in case you don't have the receipt.
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« Reply #27 on: Mon, 05 March 2012, 03:45:25 »
I'm planning on modding these anyways, if they die... oh well. I want to remove as much of the bezel as I can for the triple setup. If I can reduce the gap enough...

I'm doubting the panels themselves will die, something like a backlight, inverter, or PSU will go bad. So the screens will still be valuable for salvage, or I can repair the broken part. I just know I'm not going to waste the money to ship it back, so just have to hope it gets here in decent shape.

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« Reply #28 on: Mon, 05 March 2012, 12:21:11 »
let me know how it goes

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« Reply #29 on: Mon, 05 March 2012, 13:35:52 »
my monitor is shipped. if customs screws me i blame tsangan.
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« Reply #30 on: Mon, 05 March 2012, 13:40:32 »
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I bought the catleap a few days ago. Cancelled my u2412m order for it.

For $400 I can buy a 2nd one if it fails. I can live with a couple dead pixels. I also prefer glossy so it was a no brainer. 90hz is just a huge bonus :)

Glossy is the way to go :)
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« Reply #31 on: Mon, 05 March 2012, 13:47:20 »
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Glossy is the way to go :)

Sure, it gives superior contrast if you don't have any ambient light. Yay for cave living.

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« Reply #32 on: Mon, 05 March 2012, 14:01:16 »
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Sure, it gives superior contrast if you don't have any ambient light. Yay for cave living.

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« Reply #33 on: Mon, 05 March 2012, 14:08:56 »
This is so freaking awesome. I never knew they made 2560x1440 monitors this cheap. If you like yours bini tell me so i can get one :D
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« Reply #34 on: Mon, 05 March 2012, 14:58:30 »
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I'm planning on modding these anyways, if they die... oh well. I want to remove as much of the bezel as I can for the triple setup. If I can reduce the gap enough...

I'm doubting the panels themselves will die, something like a backlight, inverter, or PSU will go bad. So the screens will still be valuable for salvage, or I can repair the broken part. I just know I'm not going to waste the money to ship it back, so just have to hope it gets here in decent shape.

I'm sure it's not too hard to repair the broken parts, but is it possible to get replacement power boards and LED backlighting? LED drivers aren't cheap: they need pretty high current, usually. I'd be pretty happy if there were ever a GB done.

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« Reply #35 on: Mon, 05 March 2012, 17:48:00 »
The power board I think wouldn't exist with an external PSU. And those are much easier to find replacements for.

I worked in a computer shop for a year, the biggest issue with LCD's I saw was the inverter going out. I can only recall one case where the backlighting went and only a few where the PSU went bad. That's also just excluding cracked screens from drops etc. I personally have yet to have an LCD fail, I had a used LCD TV that had overheating issues but that's about it.

I don't see a group-buy being feasible. And you wouldn't save all that much compared to just buying a single monitor. They retail about $260 in Korea. On top of whatever other fees, the guys selling them for $375 aren't making much after paypal and ebay fees, and shipping it express.
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« Reply #36 on: Mon, 05 March 2012, 21:18:15 »
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I don't see a group-buy being feasible. And you wouldn't save all that much compared to just buying a single monitor. They retail about $260 in Korea. On top of whatever other fees, the guys selling them for $375 aren't making much after paypal and ebay fees, and shipping it express.

i buy this. also, that large a package is going to be hard to get through customs if it's sent via air.

i don't really buy this squaretrade stuff. i think in practice it's going to be hard to get them to pay out.

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« Reply #37 on: Mon, 05 March 2012, 21:23:53 »
A rep w/ squaretrade on the phone insisted that they'd cover it by refunding the item cost minus the warranty cost...

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The power board I think wouldn't exist with an external PSU. And those are much easier to find replacements for.


That's where you're wrong.  The PSU if I can read the pixelated letters provides 24v.  There's gonna be a drop-down for logic at 3.3-5v and for the LEDs somewhere between 10 and 20volts usually... If they were smart it's 24v for the LEDs but who knows, I've never seen LED backlights at more than 20v, oddly.
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« Reply #38 on: Mon, 05 March 2012, 21:25:41 »
unsurprising. rep w/ squaretrade just wants you to front the warranty cost.

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« Reply #39 on: Mon, 05 March 2012, 21:31:58 »
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A rep w/ squaretrade on the phone insisted that they'd cover it by refunding the item cost minus the warranty cost...

if that is the case that is terrible. if it's $50 for the initial warranty and then you only get paid out on the original price - the warranty cost then you're paying double for the warranty. i hope they just worded that wrong.

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unsurprising. rep w/ squaretrade just wants you to front the warranty cost.

they will even cover these:

Seller is not authorized dealer.
Unlocked cell phones.
Gray-market / International items.

they also have amazing feedback on resellerratings:
http://www.resellerratings.com/store/SquareTrade

that being said i'm still on the fence and probably won't buy the extended warranty. i think they are waste of time usually. most financial advisers will say the same thing.
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« Reply #40 on: Mon, 05 March 2012, 21:32:58 »
is there a consistent track record of them paying out on these things though? this is what i'm doubtful of.

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that being said i'm still on the fence and probably won't buy the extended warranty. i think they are waste of time usually. most financial advisers will say the same thing.
well, it depends on the defect rate. generally, we want to be buying products with low defect rate in the first place, since failures are inefficient even if they're covered by some kind of insurance (ie, we will lose something in a failure regardless: productivity, shipping costs, etc.).

imo this is why you buy things with built-in insurance, not for the actual act of replacement, but because it means a certain amount of reliability is priced in. extended warranties are a sham because they don't actually relate to the failure rate of the product.
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« Reply #41 on: Mon, 05 March 2012, 21:37:58 »
Anyone know the input lag on these?
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« Reply #42 on: Mon, 05 March 2012, 21:43:08 »
It's in the [H] thread... I'll dig some since I remember it :)
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« Reply #43 on: Mon, 05 March 2012, 21:43:17 »
Quote from: mkawa;536411
is there a consistent track record of them paying out on these things though? this is what i'm doubtful of.

i haven't researched that. most people aren't going to write a review if they bought the warranty and then never had to call on it though.

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Anyone know the input lag on these?

they are listed as 6ms but are more like 11 i believe which is decently low for IPS. i'm going to be gaming on them but I'm not hardcore into cs 1.6 like I once was so everything else about the monitor is more important to me.
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« Reply #44 on: Mon, 05 March 2012, 21:56:08 »
Hmm, here's the input rate stuff...  Hmm, 3 posts up is the only direct witness claim of 'no lag I can see'  I was wrong about finding real tests on that one...
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« Reply #45 on: Mon, 05 March 2012, 22:22:30 »
Damn koreans,, pwn us at everything..............ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRggggg.g..... first starcraft,, now monitors...,moniitor prices.s..

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« Reply #46 on: Mon, 05 March 2012, 22:41:35 »
Yep I could be quite wrong, but I still haven't had many issues with LCD's. I haven't heard of widespread issues with Dell u2711's or Apple's Cinema 27" which both use similar LG panels. (I'm assuming the back-light is a part of the panel). I'm just assuming it shares similar components so they should be easy enough to obtain if the need arises.

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« Reply #47 on: Mon, 05 March 2012, 23:00:24 »
all the 24"+ LG IPS panels had color uniformity issues (left would tint red, right would tint blue) for the first couple years of production. this was so problematic that NEC and eizo had to add screen-region-based color correction LUTs to their pro line to get the kind of uniformity they had been getting with previous panels.

backlight uniformity on some grades of panel (ie, the grade that everyone as cheap or cheaper than dell used) has also been suspect. admittedly, the 27" line of panels has not been bad, but the LED version being used in this monitor is a pretty new panel, and doesn't have the most amazing track record in the US so far (there seems to have been a bad batch of zr2740ws, mine included). further, for 260$ retail in korea, they're probably using pretty low-grade panels...

again, i'm personally all for taking a wait-and-see, but that's at least in part because i'm not entirely sure where i'd put another panel on my desk...

ps, it's not super easy to swap in driving electronics. power supplies yes, everything else no.

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« Reply #48 on: Mon, 05 March 2012, 23:06:03 »
LM270WQ1 panel. Which is the same part number used in the Apple Cinema displays.