$400 IPS 2560x1440 Monitor - Glossy = No AG Coating

[Kisakuku]

Are you talking about the DPs? If so I think they had some problems on the 58xx series

Edit: nvm, I guess these monitors dont have DP. I thought it would since mine does and they have the same panel

*Insert DP joke here.*

[bavman]

I bit anyways, I couldn't help myself anymore, but 3 days and still hasn't shipped yet

[alaricljs]

My 2408 has developed a vertical yellow line... goes away once it's warmed up but makes me look even closer at these.

[sth]

Glad I kept up with this thread... looks like I'll be buying Apple displays after all. BROKE BROKE BROKE.

[Reptile]

Glad I kept up with this thread... looks like I'll be buying Apple displays after all. BROKE BROKE BROKE.

What issues have you seen to justify spending another >$500?

[sth]

What issues have you seen to justify spending another >$500?

It's the lack of recourse if there's an issue with it. I'm not about to spend 400 bucks on a monitor that I can't quickly or easily return, and risk it happening again. With Apple I can get AppleCare for a little extra and have the peace of mind for 3 years, and a solid stand to boot.

[alaricljs]

There's also the HP ZR2740w, but I'm an Apple hater.  

[sth]

There's also the HP ZR2740w, but I'm an Apple hater.  

Yeah, I looked at these too, but I'm not very impressed with plastic these days.

[Odilepont]

Yeah, I looked at these too, but I'm not very impressed with plastic these days.

Damn, what are you expecting to do with it?

[Tennobanzai]

It's the lack of recourse if there's an issue with it. I'm not about to spend 400 bucks on a monitor that I can't quickly or easily return, and risk it happening again. With Apple I can get AppleCare for a little extra and have the peace of mind for 3 years, and a solid stand to boot.

I have the Apple with Apple care. If you buy it all from amazon it comes out cheaper then the apple store.

The HP ZR2740w has it's pros and cons like all the 27/30 IPS monitors but I absolutely hate the AG coating on the HP and Dells. The biggest con with the Apple is that it only has DP

If you want any recommendations just PM me. I've had the U3011 and the ACD 27 and 30

[sth]

Damn, what are you expecting to do with it?

Look at it all day, every day.

Apple's design is not the end all be all, but solid design is exactly what every other manufacturer lacks.

And plastic is tacky.

[Odilepont]

Look at it all day, every day.

Apple's design is not the end all be all, but solid design is exactly what every other manufacturer lacks.

And plastic is tacky.

I get that, if I had the money I wouldn't be considering one of these Corean monitors.

I'm waiting for some info about customs from another Dutch person that ordered one and some feedback concerning the seller on eBay I am considering purchasing mine from.
Taking a look at the PCBANK 3VIEW PB2700.

Fully aware of the risks.

[sth]

I get that, if I had the money I wouldn't be considering one of these Corean monitors.

I'm waiting for some info about customs from another Dutch person that ordered one and some feedback concerning the seller on eBay I am considering purchasing mine from.
Taking a look at the PCBANK 3VIEW PB2700.

Fully aware of the risks.

Buy cheap, buy often...

[BiNiaRiS]

It's the lack of recourse if there's an issue with it. I'm not about to spend 400 bucks on a monitor that I can't quickly or easily return, and risk it happening again. With Apple I can get AppleCare for a little extra and have the peace of mind for 3 years, and a solid stand to boot.

If you bought a 27" apple screen w/apple care on Amazon it would be $1035. You could buy THREE Q270s for that price. There's no recourse since if one breaks you buy another one and you're still saving money over the Apple display.

[sth]

If you bought a 27" apple screen w/apple care on Amazon it would be $1035. You could buy THREE Q270s for that price. There's no recourse since if one breaks you buy another one and you're still saving money over the Apple display.

I don't want to buy three cheap monitors. I want to buy one monitor that I know will work, and is easy to get replaced or fixed quickly. I value what the extra cost for Apple products brings. Apple products and AC are not cheap, but there is no PC/components company that provides the level of service and hardware quality that Apple does for my taste.

[Kisakuku]

I don't want to buy three cheap monitors. I want to buy one monitor that I know will work, and is easy to get replaced or fixed quickly. I value what the extra cost for Apple products brings. Apple products and AC are not cheap, but there is no PC/components company that provides the level of service and hardware quality that Apple does for my taste.

Then you should definitely be buying a NEC.

[sth]

Then you should definitely be buying a NEC.

There aren't 2 NEC stores within 20 minutes of my house in case a return is required. Also, their displays are even more expensive than Apple, and they're still made of plastic.

[Kisakuku]

There aren't 2 NEC stores within 20 minutes of my house in case a return is required. Also, their displays are even more expensive than Apple, and they're still made of plastic.

But but but NEC provides even better service and hardware quality!

[mkawa]

NEC and eizo's pro lines are the gold standard in monitors. the panel models often have the same part numbers as other products, but: 1) they implement the highest level of display correction 2) best warranty service 3) they buy the highest grade panels from the panel manufacturers.

apple is only a little behind on 2 and 3, but their performance on 1 leaves much to be desired. also, their proprietary electronics are a PITA to work around.

ps, metal vs plastic exterior chassis has absolutely nothing to do with panel quality.

[sth]

NEC and eizo's pro lines are the gold standard in monitors. the panel models often have the same part numbers as other products, but: 1) they implement the highest level of display correction 2) best warranty service 3) they buy the highest grade panels from the panel manufacturers.

apple is only a little behind on 2 and 3, but their performance on 1 leaves much to be desired. also, their proprietary electronics are a PITA to work around.

Proprietary electronics doesn't matter to me. It'll be connected to a Mac. NEC is very tempting but it's easier to ensure a close match between a thunderbolt display and an iMac than it is with the same panel from a different manufacturing run.

ps, metal vs plastic exterior chassis has absolutely nothing to do with panel quality.

No, but for christ's sake, plastic is tacky as hell when you're spending more than a few hundred dollars on something.

[mkawa]

Proprietary electronics doesn't matter to me. It'll be connected to a Mac. NEC is very tempting but it's easier to ensure a close match between a thunderbolt display and an iMac than it is with the same panel from a different manufacturing run.

wat. you ensure color consistency by measuring panel output and writing a lut to correct discrepancies between intended and output color and luminosity.

No, but for christ's sake, plastic is tacky as hell when you're spending more than a few hundred dollars on something.

ok then cover the chassis with aluminum foil if you want. there's no technical reasoning to prefer metal over plastic.

[sth]

wat. you ensure color consistency by measuring panel output and writing a lut to correct discrepancies between intended and output color and luminosity.

I don't know how to do that, nor do I care to learn. I have never had problems with an Apple display :/

there's no technical reasoning to prefer metal over plastic.

Who said there was?

I know I'm being a little stubborn...

[mkawa]

i guess i'm just pointing out that your posts can be summarized as: "I LIKE APPLE LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA" and hence probably don't belong here.

[BiNiaRiS]

I don't know how to do that, nor do I care to learn. I have never had problems with an Apple display :/

Who said there was?

I know I'm being a little stubborn...

i'm just in the room that thinks a good quality $350 monitor is great. 3-5 day shipping is better than most companies that will make you warranty it in the US anyways.

but i just use this thing for gaming and dinking around. i'm no pro or anything.

you are one of the few who wants to pay a ton more for what you like...this monitor is not for you. i was going to buy a dell U2412m until I saw this.

[sth]

i'm just in the room that thinks a good quality $350 monitor is great. 3-5 day shipping is better than most companies that will make you warranty it in the US anyways.

but i just use this thing for gaming and dinking around. i'm no pro or anything.

you are one of the few who wants to pay a ton more for what you like...this monitor is not for you. i was going to buy a dell U2412m until I saw this.

Thing is, I don't have a major allegiance to Apple -- I just haven't found another company that does what they do as well as they do. I really only want to get a Thunderbolt display if I buy a 27" imac, but I could also get a mac mini and run cheaper displays. . I just can't decide if I want to sink that much money into a system or not...

[Daniel Beaver]

Have I mentioned my Apple iPad beats this resolution?

If itty-bitty-squint-o-vision is your thing.

[mkawa]

free bump for sherryton. PM keevo if you want one of these folks.

[Exort]

These sell for less then $200 in korea which makes me really sad... cant find something half this decent for under $500 in the USA.

A mod over at OCN tried to organized a GB for these but it fell through because of administrative issues (group buys are against their ToS). Would anyone be interested if I started one? I think prices would be in the $300-$350 range shipped, less then eBay and maybe room for even cheaper if we get enough interest. I wouldn't mind trying if there was enough people and would alert people over at OCN as well because I know there was quite a bit of interest from them. The mod also tried to continue the GB outside of OCN but I don't think much ever came of it.

Korea is where all the ODM for screens are located. Off course it is going to be much cheaper there, specially transporting screen is expensive for obvious reasons.

[Exort]

Have I mentioned my Apple iPad beats this resolution?

Alas stock is at 209.

EDIT:  Damn, my math was off. 3.58 vs 3.14 Mpixels.

Because no graphic card even with SLI/crossfire is able to run current/next generation games at that resolution.
Also people don't stick their face to monitor unlike handheld device.

Anyways, it is much harder to produce larger screen than high res screens.

[Exort]

Apple products and AC are not cheap, but there is no PC/components company that provides the level of service and hardware quality that Apple does for my taste.

All product of same model number is of same quality. Apple uses no better components than any other PC assume same spec.
Same product binned differently have different model number. For example, Intel i5 2500k and Intel 2600k. 2600k are cherry pick 2500k.

Edit: "All product of same model number is of same quality." It should be about same quality. Since no two Intel 2500k is exactly the same, but the idea applies. It make sense if you think about it, or how else does manufacturer and buyer tell them apart.

[sth]

All product of same model number is of same quality. Apple uses no better components than any other PC assume same spec.
Same product binned differently have different model number. For example, Intel i5 2500k and Intel 2600k. 2600k are cherry pick 2500k.

You're blowing my mind right now.

[dorkvader]

I had to replace the motherboard in the same ACD twice in the last month.

[omuerte]

Mine arrived last week and I'm ****ing loving it - buyer beware, most of the "dual link DVI" cables on amazon are frauds, buy from monoprice or be _very careful_ buying on amazon if you need a longer dual link DVI cable than the monitor ships with.

My Catleap q270 arrived last week and is flawless, I'm tempted to buy a second. The only problem I've had is the replacement cable I ordered from amazon.com which wasn't a dual-link as advertised.

[bavman]

I bought mine last monday, but it didn't even get dropped at the post office till last friday. At least its in the US now in customs. I really really hope it doesn't stay there for a long time

[yjhuoh]

My Catleap q270 arrived last week and is flawless, I'm tempted to buy a second. The only problem I've had is the replacement cable I ordered from amazon.com which wasn't a dual-link as advertised.

i read a warning about this in one of the catleap threads, i forget which though. use monoprice to get guaranteed dual link dvis for cheap.

[AKIMbO]

I bought mine last monday, but it didn't even get dropped at the post office till last friday. At least its in the US now in customs. I really really hope it doesn't stay there for a long time

I've been reading that there are a few people (in the USA) who bought from dream-seller and have had their monitors stuck in customs for a couple weeks now.  There is also someone claiming that they got two catleap monitors that have AG coatings.    

I'm looking to get a Crossover Q27 from dc_samsung sometime in the next couple weeks.  Someone on OCN posted an email he got from one of the Crossover sellers (ta_planet) saying that Crossover is having a recall or something to that effect because of pixels forming white lines.

[bavman]

I've been reading that there are a few people (in the USA) who bought from dream-seller and have had their monitors stuck in customs for a couple weeks now.  There is also someone claiming that they got two catleap monitors that have AG coatings.

I think i bought from greensum, but it finally changed today to "inbound out of customs" so maybe i'll get it friday if im lucky.

And honestly I wouldn't mind a AG coating on the monitor. I have my desktop set up to be facing the blinds in my room so on sunny days even my current monitor with an AG coating still has some glare

Got mine today 1 week and 4 days after I ordered from Ebay. It took 6 days from when they actually shipped it for me to get it.
Looks like no dead/stuck pixels so lucky me

[Reptile]

I've been reading that there are a few people (in the USA) who bought from dream-seller and have had their monitors stuck in customs for a couple weeks now.  There is also someone claiming that they got two catleap monitors that have AG coatings.    

I'm looking to get a Crossover Q27 from dc_samsung sometime in the next couple weeks.  Someone on OCN posted an email he got from one of the Crossover sellers (ta_planet) saying that Crossover is having a recall or something to that effect because of pixels forming white lines.

I don't like reading stuff like this because I really want to buy one of these. Anyone up to making a thread and people could post info about their monitor and purchase experience. Something simple like:

Ebay seller
Price
Shipping time/issues
Any issues with the monitor itself/ dead pixels
Rate it 1-10


What do you guys think? It sure would help me ;-)

[bavman]

Ebay seller: green-sum
Price: $368, catleap q270se
Shipping time/issues: Bought on Monday 3/26, seller didn't get to the post office till Friday 3/30, arrived 4/5. Was stuck in customs for 1 or 2 days, I forget.
Any issues with the monitor itself/ dead pixels: Came perfect, no dead pixels and everything works great.
Rate it: 9/10 just because it took them 4 days to get it to the post office

Hope it helps you decide

edit: I also read on OCN that dead/defective panels seem to be completely random from seller to seller, but it seems that the Achieva QH270 has a flawed panel/DOA 20% of the time while the Catleap Q270 has a 11% rate according to everyone who voted in this thread:
http://www.overclock.net/t/1215866/reviewed-400-2560x1440-ips-no-ag-90hz-achieva-shimian-qh270-and-catleap-q270

[AKIMbO]

Ebay seller: green-sum
Price: $368, catleap q270se
Shipping time/issues: Bought on Monday 3/26, seller didn't get to the post office till Friday 3/30, arrived 4/5. Was stuck in customs for 1 or 2 days, I forget.
Any issues with the monitor itself/ dead pixels: Came perfect, no dead pixels and everything works great.
Rate it: 9/10 just because it took them 4 days to get it to the post office

Hope it helps you decide

edit: I also read on OCN that dead/defective panels seem to be completely random from seller to seller, but it seems that the Achieva QH270 has a flawed panel/DOA 20% of the time while the Catleap Q270 has a 11% rate according to everyone who voted in this thread:
http://www.overclock.net/t/1215866/reviewed-400-2560x1440-ips-no-ag-90hz-achieva-shimian-qh270-and-catleap-q270

So how do you like your catleap?  You got a C rev. right...so no overclocking?

[bavman]

So how do you like your catleap?  You got a C rev. right...so no overclocking?

Coming from 1080p I don't think I can ever go back. There's also a pretty big color difference between my old NT monitor and this one; for example, whites look really nice on the catleap while on my old monitor they have this annoying yellow tint when I compare them side by side. Not sure about the overclocking though, my new graphics card is supposed to come in today and I'll see if I can overclock it, but in the meantime I don't want to take it apart to find out.

[Reptile]

Coming from 1080p I don't think I can ever go back. There's also a pretty big color difference between my old NT monitor and this one; for example, whites look really nice on the catleap while on my old monitor they have this annoying yellow tint when I compare them side by side. Not sure about the overclocking though, my new graphics card is supposed to come in today and I'll see if I can overclock it, but in the meantime I don't want to take it apart to find out.

Which card did you get? I am waiting to build a new ivy bride setup :-)

Also I should have added which model; Tempered glass, speakers etc.

[bavman]

I got a used gtx 580 for $300. It seemed to be the best option for the price. My 5850 can barely handle half my games at native resolution, and completely fails at the other half.

[kaiserreich]

I got a used gtx 580 for $300. It seemed to be the best option for the price. My 5850 can barely handle half my games at native resolution, and completely fails at the other half.

did your 5850 work with the monitor?
Would you care to try it out?

[bavman]

did your 5850 work with the monitor?
Would you care to try it out?

It worked perfectly, I could even access BIOS just fine. I know some people said that on 58xx cards nothing would be displayed till windows loaded

[TheProfosist]

Any word on 120hfz versions?

[bavman]

I think most of the new ones now are the non-OC version, but some people on OCN are trying to start a groupbuy for custom PCBs that will allow 120hz.
They're in the process of testing a custom PCB right now, and you can keep up here:
http://www.overclock.net/t/1225919/yamakasi-catleap-monitor-club

[ryan92084]

I think most of the new ones now are the non-OC version, but some people on OCN are trying to start a groupbuy for custom PCBs that will allow 120hz.
They're in the process of testing a custom PCB right now, and you can keep up here:
http://www.overclock.net/t/1225919/yamakasi-catleap-monitor-club

Also the manufacturer has agreed to do a limited run with the overclockable 2b boards you can follow that http://www.overclock.net/t/1232084/yamakasi-catleap-q270-100hz-guaranteed

[TheProfosist]

ok cool thanks for the links guys.

[dirge]

Looking at the pictures the back of the monitor isn't flat, has anyone got a photo of one wall mounted?

How do you work out which ones have the glass panels?