What your fav mouse?

[Flyersfan1]

I'm in the market for a new mouse, and by reading through this thread, I think the Zowie EC1 just moved to the top of my list.  I was also considering the newly released Logitech g502, and the older Zowie FK.  I too like the simplicity of the Zowie mice and a lot of the reviews i've gone through really give it high praise for its all around performance. 

[Rewind]

Just ordered a ZOWIE EC1 eVo CL. 



This will look so good with BoW imsto dyesubs with red cyrillic sublegends omg...

[cannonking]

I like mine light. I even took out the little cap for where you put the weights in

Ditto. It's a really nice shape without its weights and even better without the weight cartridge. Putting weights on it just makes it feel wrong.

My mouse3 isn't stiff at all, but otherwise I'm right there with you on the G9x. The shape is unique and perfect for my hybrid grip/hand size, so it was very hard to find a satisfying replacement.

Finally discovered the Zowie EC2 evo CL and I'm in love. Perfect grip, buttons, wheel, sensor, and just enough heft. My aim instantly improved moving from the G9x; no awkward adjustment period at all.

I do miss side scroll and free-scroll a bit, macros were a nice option, and on the fly DPI adjustment was convenient, but eh...no biggie. The virtues of the EC2 are the stuff that truly matter.

Sorry guys, I know you love your mice, but if you're using it for FPS gaming, Zowie is king.

The reason the middle button is stiff is because Logitech engineers were too stupid when designing it and decided to use this switch as the middle button (number 5):

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Needless to say, that thing is stiff, unresponsive and the worst of all, is that I can't replace that for a proper/better switch... :(

Believe me, I didn't wanted to sell it, and I was even using the horizontal scroll buttons as replacement for the middle button, but in the end, it still annoyed the hell out of me.

Damn, I've been using a G9X for 4 years and I really wish there was some way to make middle click softer.

[daerid]

Just ordered a ZOWIE EC1 eVo CL. 

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This will look so good with BoW imsto dyesubs with red cyrillic sublegends omg...

So much this.

[mauri]

I'm in the market for a new mouse, and by reading through this thread, I think the Zowie EC1 just moved to the top of my list.  I was also considering the newly released Logitech g502, and the older Zowie FK.  I too like the simplicity of the Zowie mice and a lot of the reviews i've gone through really give it high praise for its all around performance.

Ec1 or 2 is a safe bet. Spartan in design. Precise in hardware and no software needed. Can easily change dpi or polling rate.

Most progamers (fps) swear by them, if you care for that kind of thing.

[Lurch]

My mouse history:

Intellimouse 3 (MULTIPLE; 5+) > Logitech G500 > Logitech G510 > Logitech G518 (current)

Very interested in trying the Deathadder after seeing so much talk about it on here, but I've never really been a fan of Razer products for some reason. They seem very gimmicky. 

[munch]

you should check out the Zowie EC1 eVo then! it's like a better Deathadder that isn't gimmicky at all.

[Lurch]

you should check out the Zowie EC1 eVo then! it's like a better Deathadder that isn't gimmicky at all.

Thanks for the tip!

Now investigating!

[Lurch]

I would assume the only difference between the EC1 and EC2 is size?

[ideus]

My mouse history:

Intellimouse 3 (MULTIPLE; 5+) > Logitech G500 > Logitech G510 > Logitech G518 (current)

Very interested in trying the Deathadder after seeing so much talk about it on here, but I've never really been a fan of Razer products for some reason. They seem very gimmicky.

Do you know if there is a review here or somewhere else for the Deathadder?

[epzy]

My mouse history:

Intellimouse 3 (MULTIPLE; 5+) > Logitech G500 > Logitech G510 > Logitech G518 (current)

Very interested in trying the Deathadder after seeing so much talk about it on here, but I've never really been a fan of Razer products for some reason. They seem very gimmicky.

Do you know if there is a review here or somewhere else for the Deathadder?

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=47675.0

Mini review there.

[ApocalypseMaow]

Been using the Sensei Raw for awhile, but wanted a bigger mouse... Sounds like the ec1 evo is the one for me!
Thanks for all you dudes input.

[digi]

So I think I'm going to pull the trigger on the Zowie EC1, is the only difference between the EC1 and EC2 the size of the mouse? The EC1 is slightly larger?

[trizkut]

So I think I'm going to pull the trigger on the Zowie EC1, is the only difference between the EC1 and EC2 the size of the mouse? The EC1 is slightly larger?

Yep, Ec1 = palm grip, Ec2 = claw grip.

[ideus]

My mouse history:

Intellimouse 3 (MULTIPLE; 5+) > Logitech G500 > Logitech G510 > Logitech G518 (current)

Very interested in trying the Deathadder after seeing so much talk about it on here, but I've never really been a fan of Razer products for some reason. They seem very gimmicky.

Thank you very much.

Do you know if there is a review here or somewhere else for the Deathadder?

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=47675.0

Mini review there.

[davkol]

I've just plugged in a new Roccat Lua and I'm lovin' it! The shape/size is probably as good as can be, at least for my ambidextrous fingertip grip. Quality seems promising too; it's essentially the same as the savu, just with less rough side grips. I only hope the light can be turned off in software (not packaged for Ubuntu 14.04 yet).

[kishagi]

Currently using Roccat's Kone XTD which is 100% awesome, but my favourite that I have used is the CM Storm Xornet. Imo, it was pretty much perfect. Cooler Master could easily make a better version of the Xornet and Spawn today, abeit with a noticibly higher price tag.

[wetto]

Currently using Roccat's Kone XTD which is 100% awesome, but my favourite that I have used is the CM Storm Xornet. Imo, it was pretty much perfect. Cooler Master could easily make a better version of the Xornet and Spawn today, abeit with a noticibly higher price tag.

As far as I know, the CM Storm Spawn v2 is just around the corner with an AVAGO 3310 sensor and some enhancements on the aesthetics

Should be out by June/July.

[mauri]

So I think I'm going to pull the trigger on the Zowie EC1, is the only difference between the EC1 and EC2 the size of the mouse? The EC1 is slightly larger?

Yep, Ec1 = palm grip, Ec2 = claw grip.

Hardly, ec1= big hand, ec2 = small hand. For a big hand ec2 might be claw grip but it doesn't make the mouse "claw grip", I mean that just doesn't make any sense it's the same and exact mouse but smaller, how does it transform into something else?

[baldgye]

I really do like my sensi raw, having a mouse that's really well sized and just sits in my hand is really nice. I'm not sure if I prefer over the G5... But as Logitech made it really ****ing hard to buy them new (the proper old one) I say.. **** them and there hiddious new mice

[wthefourth]

Anyone with a Corsair M65 have issues with it registering movement when you're not at your computer? I've gotten into a habit of turning my mouse upside down when I go to sleep, because, otherwise, it occasionally wakes up my computer and immediately brightens my room.

[cannonking]

Anyone with a Corsair M65 have issues with it registering movement when you're not at your computer? I've gotten into a habit of turning my mouse upside down when I go to sleep, because, otherwise, it occasionally wakes up my computer and immediately brightens my room.

Not really addressing your issue, but you should try to exchange it for an M45, it has a much better sensor and I believe it weighs less too.

[wthefourth]

Anyone with a Corsair M65 have issues with it registering movement when you're not at your computer? I've gotten into a habit of turning my mouse upside down when I go to sleep, because, otherwise, it occasionally wakes up my computer and immediately brightens my room.

Not really addressing your issue, but you should try to exchange it for an M45, it has a much better sensor and I believe it weighs less too.

Yeah, that's what I've heard. I love the way the M65 feels in my hand, but the waking issue infuriates me to no end. I have several monitors and they're a few feet from my bed, so when they turn on, I wake up. 

[iLLucionist]

G400s by far. Also have the Apple Magic Mouse with a 'magic' lack of ergonomics IMHo. I want a mouse that fills my hand, like the G400s.

[Rewind]

Just ordered a ZOWIE EC1 eVo CL. 

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This will look so good with BoW imsto dyesubs with red cyrillic sublegends omg...

So much this.

Yolo

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[munch]

that is soooooo nice. a bit jealous!

[Bucake]

wow, that combo :h

good on you (bastard)

[tmk1207]

Razer DA Black <3 .... My love :3

[Beca]

my razer lachesis just randomly stops working in the middle of gaming sometimes...apparently this is an issue with the software but it's sooo annoying. Anyone know a good, consistent mouse with the shape of a Lachesis and without ****ty required software?

[vun]

my razer lachesis just randomly stops working in the middle of gaming sometimes...apparently this is an issue with the software but it's sooo annoying. Anyone know a good, consistent mouse with the shape of a Lachesis and without ****ty required software?

Yeah, I had that issue with my Lachesis as well. I think what I ended up doing was just not running the software as the Lachesis Refresh has onboard memory for at least one profile. Not sure how it works for the old version.

The problem with replacing it is that it has a very unique shape, I can't really think of a mouse that is a straight up alternative. Maybe the TT Level10M, but then you'll be dealing with even worse software and not very good side buttons.

So if you like the shape of your Lachesis I think the best alternative is to just not run the software for it.

[Beca]

my razer lachesis just randomly stops working in the middle of gaming sometimes...apparently this is an issue with the software but it's sooo annoying. Anyone know a good, consistent mouse with the shape of a Lachesis and without ****ty required software?

Yeah, I had that issue with my Lachesis as well. I think what I ended up doing was just not running the software as the Lachesis Refresh has onboard memory for at least one profile. Not sure how it works for the old version.

The problem with replacing it is that it has a very unique shape, I can't really think of a mouse that is a straight up alternative. Maybe the TT Level10M, but then you'll be dealing with even worse software and not very good side buttons.

So if you like the shape of your Lachesis I think the best alternative is to just not run the software for it.

ohhhh, thanks! I was under the impression that you NEED the software for the mouse to even function. do you just disable it in the startup menu?

[Bucake]

do you just disable it in the startup menu?

first i'd check if there's an option in the settings of the software. if not, then i'd check the startup menu. i presume that the software has the option in the settings, but sometimes you need to go as far as to dive into your registry editor or 'service editor', to stop stuff from booting.

after disabling the startup of the software, i'd reboot once and then check in Task Manager whether the software is actually, entirely disabled.

[vun]

my razer lachesis just randomly stops working in the middle of gaming sometimes...apparently this is an issue with the software but it's sooo annoying. Anyone know a good, consistent mouse with the shape of a Lachesis and without ****ty required software?

Yeah, I had that issue with my Lachesis as well. I think what I ended up doing was just not running the software as the Lachesis Refresh has onboard memory for at least one profile. Not sure how it works for the old version.

The problem with replacing it is that it has a very unique shape, I can't really think of a mouse that is a straight up alternative. Maybe the TT Level10M, but then you'll be dealing with even worse software and not very good side buttons.

So if you like the shape of your Lachesis I think the best alternative is to just not run the software for it.

ohhhh, thanks! I was under the impression that you NEED the software for the mouse to even function. do you just disable it in the startup menu?

Dunno what OS you're using, this works differently in win8, but in win7 I just hit winkey+r, type 'msconfig' and disable the lachesis software under the 'startup' tab. If you have CCleaner installed then you can do it through that instead if that's easier.
From what I remember you can just do this in Task Manager in win8.

I don't think the Lachesis software is in the start menu startup folder, but if the above doesn't work then double checking that couldn't hurt.

Or, you could just uninstall the software, unless you know you'll want to occasionally remap keys and whatnot.

[isaske]

The logitech g9x is really what i stick with. After switching between a lot of razer mice and also trying steelseries kinzu v2, i felt like i have to try logitech, since many professional gamers use them and since the costumer feedback is good. I fell in love with it and i feel sorry for not buying more so i can have them at home if/when the one that i'm using now breaks or stops working properly. Sigh~

[wetto]

The logitech g9x is really what i stick with. After switching between a lot of razer mice and also trying steelseries kinzu v2, i felt like i have to try logitech, since many professional gamers use them and since the costumer feedback is good. I fell in love with it and i feel sorry for not buying more so i can have them at home if/when the one that i'm using now breaks or stops working properly. Sigh~

I really wish Logitech would release it again with proper internals (no Logitech scroll BS, that thing is the reason for many of this mouse's problems), TTC switches on the middle and side buttons and AVAGO 3090, 3095 or 3310 sensor.

[Elrick]

I really wish Logitech would release it again with proper internals (no Logitech scroll BS, that thing is the reason for many of this mouse's problems), TTC switches on the middle and side buttons and AVAGO 3090, 3095 or 3310 sensor.

It would of been appropriate for them to listen to their conservative accountants when it came to re-introducing past mice that had been popular amongst the gaming fraternity, that way it would of been cheaper to simply update the internals only.

BUT no, someone in the so-called 'design' department wanted to introduce something new ' the G502' and we are now here at this point.  Maybe down the line they may re-introduce the G9x under another name but for now it looks like it will be ignored.

But like a true idiot fan-boy I went and spent money on a brand new G502 and am liking it more and more.  Don't judge me too harshly here........

[Novus]

The sensor on the g502 is supposed to be really good though.

[daerid]

The sensor on the g502 is supposed to be really good though.

Apparently the rest of the mouse is shoddy as hell though.

[CK Briefs]

The sensor on the g502 is supposed to be really good though.

Apparently the rest of the mouse is shoddy as hell though.

Do explain

[SL89]

Logitech M570 Trackball for work, battery lasts forever and its comfortable to use all day as opposed to the other style trackball.

Logitech Wireless Touchpad (not the T650) removable batteries last forever and i wont have to replace it as i would the T650 which has an intergral battery.

[n0rvig]

The sensor on the g502 is supposed to be really good though.

Apparently the rest of the mouse is shoddy as hell though.

Do explain

All those sharp edges. You gonna cut yourself.

[daerid]

The sensor on the g502 is supposed to be really good though.

Apparently the rest of the mouse is shoddy as hell though.

Do explain

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=56956.msg1311963#msg1311963 for one

[Skull_Angel]

The sensor on the g502 is supposed to be really good though.

Apparently the rest of the mouse is shoddy as hell though.

Do explain

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=56956.msg1311963#msg1311963 for one

I'm not really big into Logitech any more (haven't been since before the release of the G700), but the only real issues I can see from that post is that it's got some problems with the skates and it's quite heavy (which can be subjective, but that is quite heavy, lol); every other negative seems to be pretty subjective (though I can't personally comment about it's build quality, I agree Logitech's build quality has not been what it was), even down to the mousewheel which has been hit or miss with individuals. The right mouse button issue seems to arise for some, but not others which leads me to believe it may be a manufacturing/QC issue.

[dustinhxc]

Well for the moment, Zowie EC1 eVo. We will see if I like it the same in a month but right now I love it!  PS the scroll wheel is purple, omg perfect!

[jwaz]

PS the scroll wheel is purple, omg perfect!

The scroll wheel color denotes the CPI setting of the sensor.

[dustinhxc]

PS the scroll wheel is purple, omg perfect!

The scroll wheel color denotes the CPI setting of the sensor.

Yeah it worked out perfect because I like the medium setting and it happened to be the purple which I like more then red and blue. Thanks! 

[wetto]

I really wish Logitech would release it again with proper internals (no Logitech scroll BS, that thing is the reason for many of this mouse's problems), TTC switches on the middle and side buttons and AVAGO 3090, 3095 or 3310 sensor.

It would of been appropriate for them to listen to their conservative accountants when it came to re-introducing past mice that had been popular amongst the gaming fraternity, that way it would of been cheaper to simply update the internals only.

BUT no, someone in the so-called 'design' department wanted to introduce something new ' the G502' and we are now here at this point.  Maybe down the line they may re-introduce the G9x under another name but for now it looks like it will be ignored.

But like a true idiot fan-boy I went and spent money on a brand new G502 and am liking it more and more.  Don't judge me too harshly here........

At least it seems that they've finally stopped using low quality SMD switches on those smaller buttons at the left of the left mouse button and replaced those instead for standard OMRON switches (which is like, 800x better).

No more extremely stiff and unresponsive buttons like the ones on Logitech G500/G500S/G700/G700S! Kudos for that!

[suby4me]

i'm currently using a thermaltake level 10 esports mouse. it's okay, i can grip it pretty well. the software isn't the best (ugly and takes eternity to load) but does what it does. I was using a g700s prior, but that mouse really would make me want to toss it against the wall. software half the time would not detect my mouse so my preferences wouldn't load. i switched to onboard memory, but half the time it would loose all the profiles. battery did not last the supposed day or so. Maybe i just got a dud, who knows. however, it liked the grip and the layout of the buttons wasn't too bad. if it didn't have all those issues, i'd prob be still using it.
the rat mmo7 was okay, but for some odd reason it would kill my wrist.
the razer naga i got a long time ago was pretty nice. forgot why i put it on the shelf. might have been due to that shift to cloud based mouse software.

[ynrozturk]

Anyone have the Func MS-3? I'm pretty curious about that one.

[davkol]

Anyone have the Func MS-3? I'm pretty curious about that one.

I think vun or someone got it from Massdrop, see his write-up.