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« Reply #50 on: Tue, 12 April 2011, 08:49:03 »
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I travel the world with colleagues. Me and my stupid candid white ass face almost never get special attention. But I had to wait countless times for my not so white friends. They don't need more attention than me... What makes them so interesting?

Profiling is wrong...

Depends on what you are trying to achieve. If the goal is to prevent another 9/11, than allocating disproportionate amount of resources to check Arabs and Muslims is the right thing to do (in the absence of more specific intelligence).

Paying more attention to your not so white friends and anyone who could be an Arab and/or a Muslim is much more efficient allocation of inherently limited resources than checking everyone equally.

We could discuss the "moral" side of such approach, but that is a different issue altogether. When it comes to issue of effectiveness there is no doubt that this works and works very well (look at Israel for an example).

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« Reply #51 on: Tue, 12 April 2011, 08:54:28 »
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Have you ever read the Talmud?
I encourage you to do so, then we can get back to this.

Old Testament is Talmud. So you treat Christians the same way you treat Jews, I presume?

By the way, the word Jewish is used to describe two different things: religion and ethnicity. There are plenty of non-religious Jews. Does your dislike cover both types or only the religious?

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« Reply #52 on: Tue, 12 April 2011, 09:04:41 »
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Old Testament is Talmud.


You couldn't be more wrong.

I have no problem with any ethnicity.
However, I do have problems with the hidden effects of the social conditioning based on the Talmud.
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« Reply #53 on: Tue, 12 April 2011, 09:09:05 »
Here's what happens when you don't frisk 6-year old terrorists :
They blow **** up !!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LD06SAf0p9A
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« Reply #54 on: Tue, 12 April 2011, 09:14:23 »
That was a controlled demolition.

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« Reply #55 on: Tue, 12 April 2011, 09:26:28 »
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This causes a greater problem. International businessmen are less willing to come to the US than before...they don't want to wait for hours at out ridiculous lines and go through security checkpoints that violate their privacy and yet don't actually make anyone more safe.


And you say you travelled all Europeans countries... I guess you forgot your experience in UK. Much more intrusive than anywhere else I went.

I agree that Airport security went crazy since 9-11. But not just in the US. It's noticeable in all Airports with a budget.
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« Reply #56 on: Tue, 12 April 2011, 09:37:03 »
I went through ohare recently and it was a breeze.
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« Reply #57 on: Tue, 12 April 2011, 09:39:35 »
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That was a controlled demolition.


No, that was 'Thermal Expansion' ...
I don't care what that Danny Jowenko guy says, who is he,
some kind of demolition-expert who owns a company that blows **** up ??

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« Reply #58 on: Tue, 12 April 2011, 09:41:58 »
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I have no problem with any ethnicity.

I thought you also didn't like gypsies? I must admit, they ARE annoying.

One gave my grandfather the evil eye in Rome because he wouldn't give her money. Wtf?

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« Reply #59 on: Tue, 12 April 2011, 09:50:58 »
"Black cat white cat" is a must see. Hilarious film about gypsies.

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« Reply #60 on: Tue, 12 April 2011, 09:51:12 »
A Group of them stabbed my brother and stole his fishing rod ten years ago.
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« Reply #61 on: Tue, 12 April 2011, 09:59:47 »
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If the goal is to prevent another 9/11, than allocating disproportionate amount of resources to check Arabs and Muslims is the right thing to do (in the absence of more specific intelligence).

When it comes to issue of effectiveness there is no doubt that this works and works very well (look at Israel for an example).


Sigh... Dude you sound like a radical extremist.
My only tools are reason and education. I'm not equipped to argue with you.

You can wear garlic too... Very efficient against vampires.

9-11 is a single scenario involving an aircraft. One scenario down, how many others to go?

Ask a boxer about protection... Put all your money to save your face and you're going to get punched in the guts.

Have you wonder why we are not getting punched elsewhere although we are all out protecting our airports? Maybe for the same reason no planes have crashed into buildings in billion years before.

Don't get me wrong, it's real… There are crazy people out there prepared to do nasty things to get their point across the table. But I don't think they are as many so called terrorists as we are told. In fact, I would be curious to know where terrorism casualties sit in the list of causes of death due to bad human behavior.

Here's some educative propagada to better understand terrorism


Achmed is a blast... Pun intended
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« Reply #62 on: Tue, 12 April 2011, 10:04:16 »
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« Reply #63 on: Tue, 12 April 2011, 10:05:41 »
I see Boobs!
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« Reply #64 on: Tue, 12 April 2011, 10:06:43 »
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Show Image


You could easily change your avatar to that picture.
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« Reply #65 on: Tue, 12 April 2011, 10:09:17 »
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I see Boobs!


You mean bombs... right? Do not derail this thread please ;-)
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« Reply #66 on: Tue, 12 April 2011, 10:19:00 »
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I see Boobs!

Wake up sheeple!
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« Reply #67 on: Tue, 12 April 2011, 10:19:36 »
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Love the Gypsies.  Hate the French (unless they play a mean violin).


Ok... Do tell why you hate the French so much?

The kiss?
The croissants?
The déja vue?
The fries?

Must be the fries... because they killed much more americans than any terrorists dead or alive.
The killer fries - Each year, 112,000 people die from
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« Reply #68 on: Tue, 12 April 2011, 10:21:36 »
I used to learn French at school. God I hated it. It sounds worse than Danish.

The only French I like is Zidane.

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« Reply #69 on: Tue, 12 April 2011, 10:25:16 »
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Must be the fries... because they killed much more americans than any terrorists dead or alive.
Yeah, but that's hardly any achievement,
Americans kill much more Americans than any theorists do .. ups, 'terrorists'..
every single year it's like 9/11 times ten or something !

NOTHING sounds worse than Danish, even Dutch sounds nicer !!

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« Reply #70 on: Tue, 12 April 2011, 10:32:46 »
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You're 8x more likely to be killed by a police officer than a terrorist.
That's a misleading statistic.

Even if it were true, though, since the chances of dying from a terrorist attack are really low, this doesn't mean our police are dangerous.

More to the point, remember how drastically the U.S. was affected by the events of 9/11? They had a major economic impact, and this impact could easily have been much worse had the government not reacted swiftly. It isn't just the number of people who die, it's the knowledge that those who are responsible can strike again.

We have to make very, very sure that terrorists aren't in a position to deflect the foreign policy of the United States. Once that becomes possible, the vultures start gathering.

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« Reply #71 on: Tue, 12 April 2011, 10:36:40 »
Dutch sounds like a mix of English and German.
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« Reply #72 on: Tue, 12 April 2011, 10:39:11 »
Police shot unarmed civilians.
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« Reply #73 on: Tue, 12 April 2011, 10:48:40 »
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It isn't just the number of people who die, it's the knowledge that those who are responsible can strike again.

We have to make very, very sure that terrorists aren't in a position to deflect the foreign policy of the United States.


Exactly!!!!! The biggest impact is not the casualties. It's the terror inflicted to the population. The governments have experts paid to figure out what actions will have the best result at calming the mass. What can they do so we feel safer.  It's not important if we are safer or not as long as we believe we are safe, they're doing their job.
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« Reply #74 on: Tue, 12 April 2011, 10:55:38 »
So RiGS what country are you from?  What is it you do for a living?
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« Reply #75 on: Tue, 12 April 2011, 10:56:31 »
I eat people and take their money. I live in a secret village known for its canibalism in Hungary.
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« Reply #76 on: Tue, 12 April 2011, 11:01:31 »
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Police shot unarmed civilians.


And you can also find doctors killing patients... So what?

Most people are good and trustworthy. Then you get an isolated incident and we all turn paranoid with excessive reactions.

What can I say... We are dumb all over
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« Reply #77 on: Tue, 12 April 2011, 11:02:23 »
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We have to make very, very sure that terrorists aren't in a position to deflect the foreign policy of the United States.


Yeah, you have to make sure to not let the terrorists taking over the US military bases all around the globe.
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« Reply #78 on: Tue, 12 April 2011, 11:06:09 »
Obama as a Nobel Peace award winner has to bring peace and democracy to the rest of the world, and let the Federal Reserve to take control over their National Banks.
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« Reply #79 on: Tue, 12 April 2011, 11:09:39 »
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Obama as a Nobel Peace award winner has YET to bring peace and democracy to ANYWHERE IN the world.


Fixed that for ya
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« Reply #80 on: Tue, 12 April 2011, 11:10:46 »
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Obama as a Nobel Peace award winner has to bring peace and democracy to the rest of the world, and let the Federal Reserve to take control over their National Banks.


Lol we all know that's not the nobel peace award he got, it really is the world saying "props for being the first black president award" he didn't do no peace.

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« Reply #81 on: Tue, 12 April 2011, 11:11:31 »
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Fixed that for ya


Oh thanks! :)
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« Reply #82 on: Tue, 12 April 2011, 11:14:35 »
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It is in the TSA's best interest to protect the greater good of every person on every airplane by making sure bombs and other weapons don't get in. Anything could happen; terrorists could put bombs or other weapons on kids even without them knowing it. When I was 12 they wouldn't even let me bring my keychain on an airplane because it was shaped like a bullet.

TSA are thuggish security guards, I'm pretty sure we all hate them, you just need a HS dipolma and no criminal record to work as one.

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« Reply #83 on: Tue, 12 April 2011, 11:15:12 »
The fascinating thing about cranks and conspiracy theorists is the juxtaposition of paranoia and gullibility. Rationally, you wouldn't expect the two to go together, but they always do.

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« Reply #84 on: Tue, 12 April 2011, 11:15:57 »
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I eat people and take their money. I live in a secret village known for its canibalism in Hungary.

For having such a strong opinion about other countries it seems pretty odd to me that you wont even mention where you are really from?  how come?
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« Reply #85 on: Tue, 12 April 2011, 11:16:05 »
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TSA are thuggish security guards, I'm pretty sure we all hate them, you just need a HS dipolma and no criminal record to work as one.


You can even get in with a criminal record. Just not violent crime. Not many people want to be TSA, so they take who they can get.

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The fascinating thing about cranks and conspiracy theorists is the juxtaposition of paranoia and gullibility. Rationally, you wouldn't expect the two to go together, but they always do.


Who are you referring to?
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« Reply #86 on: Tue, 12 April 2011, 11:29:16 »
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Who are you referring to?


All of them. It's subject-independent.

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« Reply #87 on: Tue, 12 April 2011, 11:38:52 »
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The fascinating thing about cranks and conspiracy theorists is the juxtaposition of paranoia and gullibility. Rationally, you wouldn't expect the two to go together, but they always do.


The fascinating thing about sheep is the ignorance to the fact they are about to be slaughtered in a slaughterhouse.

There are way too many people having Stockholm syndrome.

Many "consipracy theories" turned out to be truth.
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« Reply #88 on: Tue, 12 April 2011, 11:42:16 »
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All of them. It's subject-independent.


LoL - Words of wisdom :-)
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« Reply #89 on: Tue, 12 April 2011, 11:49:23 »
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I found this movie fascinating.


I just Googled Temple Grandin - Waow!

I don't know how it relates to this thread but Fascinating indeed - I'm now seeking the DVD... Thanks to you.

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« Reply #90 on: Tue, 12 April 2011, 11:51:51 »
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All of them. It's subject-independent.

What's most amazing is their ability to mix and match and adapt their paranoia for any situation. "The Rothschild family and global warming alarmists assassinated JFK and stole Walt Disney's brain so they could fake the moon landing and Obama's birth certificate and build a highway between Mexico and Canada! Wake up sheeple!"
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« Reply #91 on: Tue, 12 April 2011, 11:52:33 »
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The fascinating thing about sheep is the ignorance to the fact they are about to be slaughtered in a slaughterhouse.


Curses, foiled again! If you'd said "sheeple" I'd have bingo.

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« Reply #92 on: Tue, 12 April 2011, 12:03:10 »
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Aren't too many movies with "Slaughterhouse" in them.  Slaughterhouse Five is another one.

Ok... I was wondering what autism had to do with it... Once again the wise was pointing the moon and the idiot(me) kept looking at the finger.
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« Reply #93 on: Tue, 12 April 2011, 12:07:46 »
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What's most amazing is their ability to mix and match and adapt their paranoia for any situation. "The Rothschild family and global warming alarmists assassinated JFK and stole Walt Disney's brain so they could fake the moon landing and Obama's birth certificate and build a highway between Mexico and Canada! Wake up sheeple!"





Alex's interview with the British "adventurer and naturopath" David de Rothschild on global warming.
It's quite fascinating.
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« Reply #94 on: Tue, 12 April 2011, 12:09:24 »
LOL. You just can't parody these people.
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« Reply #95 on: Tue, 12 April 2011, 13:21:29 »
Since RiGS joined it's been like Welly never left.

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« Reply #96 on: Tue, 12 April 2011, 13:34:34 »
can we all agree that if anyone believes obama is not a us citizen, is a certified idiot? (or racist i mean come on)

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« Reply #97 on: Tue, 12 April 2011, 13:41:28 »
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Sigh... Dude you sound like a radical extremist.

Radical extremist? For pointing out the fact that every one of the 9/11 attackers was an Arab and a Muslim? Just let me get this straight, are you going to dispute that fact, or are you going to call radical extremist anyone who points it out?

There is a world of difference between statements "most Muslims are terrorists" and "most terrorists are Muslims". But you seem to be unable to grasp it.

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« Reply #98 on: Tue, 12 April 2011, 14:01:53 »
I don't know if "most terrorists are Muslims" is strictly true. There are a lot of domestic terrorists in this country who are not Muslim, e.g. the Oklahoma City bombing, countless abortion clinic bombings and attempted and successful assassinations of abortion doctors, that guy who flew a plane into an IRS building (to little effect), that guy who shot up a unitarian church, the Atlanta Olympics bombing, various militias, the anthrax mailings, etc.
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« Reply #99 on: Tue, 12 April 2011, 14:17:17 »
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I don't know if "most terrorists are Muslims" is strictly true. There are a lot of domestic terrorists in this country who are not Muslim, e.g. the Oklahoma City bombing, countless abortion clinic bombings and attempted and successful assassinations of abortion doctors, that guy who flew a plane into an IRS building (to little effect), that guy who shot up a unitarian church, the Atlanta Olympics bombing, various militias, the anthrax mailings, etc.

All true, but TSA is not after terrorists assassinating abortion doctors and attacking IRS buildings. There is a major OPENLY DECLARED threat from Muslim fundamentalists, who are OPENLY SAYING they will attack us again. Spending equal amount of effort checking everyone when we know the threat is from Arabs/Muslims is an inefficient allocation of inherently limited resources.