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Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: RiGS on Mon, 11 April 2011, 20:40:08
http://www.infowars.com/6-year-old-girl-groped-then-drug-tested-by-tsa/ (http://www.infowars.com/6-year-old-girl-groped-then-drug-tested-by-tsa/)



follow up (http://www.infowars.com/parents-threatened-by-tsa-before-6-year-old-was-groped/)
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: Lpb45 on Mon, 11 April 2011, 20:47:36
Why exactly is this posted?  Just trying to stir up more arguments?
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: keyboardlover on Mon, 11 April 2011, 20:48:52
RiGS is officially the new Welly (political troll). Except he supports Alex Jones, which makes him likely to be EVEN MORE insane than Welly.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: RiGS on Mon, 11 April 2011, 20:59:16
It is always refreshing to point out that the US is a free country.
This kinda reminds me of the novel of 1984 written by George Orwell.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: Lpb45 on Mon, 11 April 2011, 21:01:49
boring
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: RiGS on Mon, 11 April 2011, 21:04:30
Indeed reading can be boring.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: keyboardlover on Mon, 11 April 2011, 21:06:22
I think he was referring to your nonsensical opinions.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: Lanx on Mon, 11 April 2011, 21:10:09
This is the price we pay for freedom and the inability to profile. Now I don't mean racially profile, but some amount of common sense instead of zero tolerance would be cool, like giving a kid a quick glance over would be enough, instead of a pat down.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: REVENGE on Mon, 11 April 2011, 21:13:41
This is the price you pay for having an off topic subforum.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: RiGS on Mon, 11 April 2011, 21:14:14
I'd rather face the danger.

Btw, I like this quote by Benjamin Franklin.

Quote
The man who trades freedom for security does not deserve nor will he ever receive either.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: seung on Mon, 11 April 2011, 21:20:21
I don't see a problem here. Just a simple pat down. Sure, the kid may be innocent, but the mother is obviously a wack job.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: RiGS on Mon, 11 April 2011, 21:22:29
Quote
I don't see a problem here.

This is the problem.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: keyboardlover on Mon, 11 April 2011, 21:25:14
Correct, your posts are the problem.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: RiGS on Mon, 11 April 2011, 21:27:33
Your ignorance, and the fact that you can't brake the conditioning are the problem.
You will believe whatever they tell you in the media.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: keyboardlover on Mon, 11 April 2011, 21:29:55
Quote from: RiGS;328931

You will believe whatever they tell you in the media.


Actually, that's YOU. Because you for whatever reason believe Alex Jones' insane propaganda.

Also, I'm really curious as to what kind of job you have since you seem to stay up until 5:30 AM quite a lot on weeknights.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: RiGS on Mon, 11 April 2011, 21:32:49
It's 4:30 AM. I work from home.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: Fwiffo on Mon, 11 April 2011, 21:33:31
Your warnings against creeping authoritarianism would be taken more seriously if you hadn't already established yourself as a crank.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: neo on Mon, 11 April 2011, 21:37:50
Ironically this is also bad for security as inherently limited resources are tied up pointlessly frisking little American girls so the big Saudi Arabian men don't receive the attention they deserve.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: bytemeavaj on Mon, 11 April 2011, 21:44:37
Quote from: RiGS;328918
I'd rather face the danger.

Btw, I like this quote by Benjamin Franklin.


Are you a complete moron? Do you realize Benjamin Franklin lived in the 1700s? Times change.

In this day and age, it is sad, but we need to be aware and protect our nation against terrorism. You're just someone that needs to whine about everything including undergoing a patdown.

Don't flatter yourself, you're not being picked out from the crowd because you're so good looking someone wants to feel you up.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: BucklingSpring on Mon, 11 April 2011, 21:48:21
Quote from: RiGS;328926
This is the problem.


Kids are not the problem. Adults using kids as mule ARE the problem.
There is nothing wrong with this video. It was done respectfully.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: speakeasy on Mon, 11 April 2011, 22:18:47
Quote from: neo;328940
Ironically this is also bad for security as inherently limited resources are tied up pointlessly frisking little American girls so the big Saudi Arabian men don't receive the attention they deserve.


lol reminds me of that scene in Airplane where this old lady sets off the metal detector so they start hassling her. Meanwhile, guys with bandoliers of ammunition and RPGs are passing through unchecked cause they're too busy with her.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: .XL on Mon, 11 April 2011, 23:38:46
Quote from: bytemeavaj;328943
Are you a complete moron? Do you realize Benjamin Franklin lived in the 1700s? Times change.

In this day and age, it is sad, but we need to be aware and protect our nation against terrorism. You're just someone that needs to whine about everything including undergoing a patdown.

Don't flatter yourself, you're not being picked out from the crowd because you're so good looking someone wants to feel you up.


That opinion is what is wrong with this country. How close minded are you? Do you not realize this whole 'terrorism' thing is a big fairy tale? Do you not realize that the most recent terrorism 'scares' were by men RECRUITED and TRAINED at FBI camps in Afghanistan?

This stuff is NOT protecting us against terrorism. It is NOT helping us in any way. Essentially, this makes the America haters WIN. They are turning the people against the government, and those who do not turn against the government are willing to give up their freedoms for security.

That quote RiGS posted from Ben Franklin still rings just as true today. If you do not believe that, you're welcome to leave the US and go somewhere like Israel where people are more than willing to give up their freedoms for security. Not here.

And while I'm mentioning Israel, did you know they have the safest airports in the world, even though they're the most at risk for terrorist attacks? Did you know they don't use the same procedures we do, and they think of them as stupid and unnecessary? They just observe, scan baggage, and use metal detectors. No xray scanners or patdowns.

These measures are not necessary, and have only been adopted with the purpose of making a few people rich. The same people that chose these scanners to be put in in the first place are the ones that own the companies that make them. That is THE definition of conflict of interest...

How about everyone get of RiGS **** and start commenting on what he's actually saying, not attack him for his previous posts. It's getting really tiresome. I don't see many blatant troll posts from him, you guys are the ones that do most of the trolling.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: Lanx on Tue, 12 April 2011, 00:32:27
Quote from: .XL;328987
And while I'm mentioning Israel, did you know they have the safest airports in the world, even though they're the most at risk for terrorist attacks? Did you know they don't use the same procedures we do, and they think of them as stupid and unnecessary? They just observe, scan baggage, and use metal detectors. No xray scanners or patdowns.


Doesn't Israel employee military trained ppl that are trained in professional profiling? to that end Israel is a little bit bigger than New Jersey, so it's not like it wouldn't be difficult to be safe that
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: Twitchy on Tue, 12 April 2011, 02:15:41
You cannot be too careful when it comes to security, there are threats everywhere.

Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: majestouch on Tue, 12 April 2011, 02:33:09
Quote from: Lanx;328915
This is the price we pay for freedom and the inability to profile. Now I don't mean racially profile, but some amount of common sense instead of zero tolerance would be cool, like giving a kid a quick glance over would be enough, instead of a pat down.


We didn't need nor accept pat downs at airports 30 years ago.

And since you brought it up, "common sense" would predicate that if we rationalize pat downs as OK now, when we didn't 30 years ago, then we'll have no problem rationalizing further intrusions in the future.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: quadibloc on Tue, 12 April 2011, 03:27:00
It certainly is true that terrorists have used kids as mules. And, given that airplanes give terrorists the ability to kill thousands of people at a single blow, we do have to be very careful.

That does not say that I find the operations of the TSA to be in all cases acceptable. But, at the moment, we still have not eliminated the terrorist threat at its source, so, temporarily, we have limited options.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: speakeasy on Tue, 12 April 2011, 03:44:18
You're 8x more likely to be killed by a police officer than a terrorist.

I am honestly more concerned about radiation from their scanners than I am of the chance that there's a terrorist on my plane. I am more concerned with government employees than I am about the terrorist bogeyman, because I'm SUPPOSED to support the government without question.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: woody on Tue, 12 April 2011, 05:04:46
Quote from: ripster;329011


You saw the "Four Lions" movie yet?
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: keyboardlover on Tue, 12 April 2011, 06:47:21
It is in the TSA's best interest to protect the greater good of every person on every airplane by making sure bombs and other weapons don't get in. Anything could happen; terrorists could put bombs or other weapons on kids even without them knowing it. When I was 12 they wouldn't even let me bring my keychain on an airplane because it was shaped like a bullet.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: RiGS on Tue, 12 April 2011, 06:54:12
That's why DHS launches takeover of hotels, malls and sports stadiums.

Did you know that more people die from bathroom accidents than in terrorist attacks?

At what point are you willing to say enough is enough.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: keyboardlover on Tue, 12 April 2011, 07:02:06
Never heard of such takeovers. Where's your proof??
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: Lpb45 on Tue, 12 April 2011, 07:02:30
Quote from: RiGS;329082
That's why DHS launches takeover of hotels, malls and sports stadiums.

Did you know that more people die from bathroom accidents than in terrorist attacks?

At what point are you willing to say enough is enough.


boring.

are you even american?  I doubt it, tell us what great country you are from?
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: RiGS on Tue, 12 April 2011, 07:04:09
Sadly this is a global thing what we must stop now.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: RiGS on Tue, 12 April 2011, 07:40:10
Quote from: keyboardlover;329086
Never heard of such takeovers. Where's your proof??


Just because you didn't hear about it, doesn't mean it didn't happen.
http://www.infowars.com/big-sis-set-to-expand-spy-program-to-sports-stadiums/ (http://www.infowars.com/big-sis-set-to-expand-spy-program-to-sports-stadiums/)
http://www.infowars.com/big-sis-invasion-of-walmart-start-of-obamas-civilian-security-force/ (http://www.infowars.com/big-sis-invasion-of-walmart-start-of-obamas-civilian-security-force/)


I highly recommend you to watch this video, especially the part about Future Attribute Screening Technology of DHS.
It's starting around at 5 minutes or so.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: BucklingSpring on Tue, 12 April 2011, 07:44:41
Quote from: speakeasy;329047
You're 8x more likely to be killed by a police officer than a terrorist.


That's exactly what I told the furry guy who stole my car.

And you're damn right... I want him frisked at the airport. In case they find my car in his pocket or something.


I WANT MY CAR BACK... DEAD OR ALIVE.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: Fwiffo on Tue, 12 April 2011, 07:44:46
LOL, Alex Jones again. The ravings of an unhinged, paranoid idiot don't exactly lend credence to your arguments.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: .XL on Tue, 12 April 2011, 07:46:38
Quote from: keyboardlover;329080
It is in the TSA's best interest to protect the greater good of every person on every airplane by making sure bombs and other weapons don't get in. Anything could happen; terrorists could put bombs or other weapons on kids even without them knowing it. When I was 12 they wouldn't even let me bring my keychain on an airplane because it was shaped like a bullet.


Oh my god...*face palm*...You're not serious, are you?

It's in the TSA's best interest to make money. That's it's purpose. It's a waste of govt funds and should be eliminated.

Ya know, if a 9-11 happened every year the amount of deaths would still be extremely small. You'd have a 1 in 100 million chance of being hurt. You have a 1 in seveal hunndred thousand chance of dying driving to work. Think about that. Driving to work is many times more dangerous than terrorists...why dont we regulate driving?! Speeds of 25mph max! Rubber bumpers on every car!

Dont be silly. Terrorism never has been and never will be a serious threat. Why would the terrorists even bother with airports? We already allowed them to win there. They'd go somewhere else much more crowded. Let's install TSA at every subway station! It's necessary because the terrorist might show up there! Let's put them in every mall And theme park! We must do whatever we can to be safe!


Quote from: RiGS;329092
Sadly this is a global thing what we must stop now.


QFT. We need to stop pushing our agenda on others and let them decode what's best for themselves.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: J888www on Tue, 12 April 2011, 07:54:34
Quote from: .XL;328987
...what is wrong with this country......you not realize this whole 'terrorism' thing is a big fairy tale?..you not realize that the most recent terrorism 'scares' were by men RECRUITED and TRAINED at FBI camps in Afghanistan?....

......everyone get off RiGS **** and start commenting on what he's actually saying,...., you guys are the ones that do most of the trolling.


I agree. If One does not agree, One should always attack the Post not the Poster ior.

Quote from: majestouch;329041
We didn't need nor accept pat downs at airports 30 years ago.


I agree, as you said, that's 30 Years ago, Time does pass.....circumstances do change ? maybe not always for the best......

Quote from: Lpb45;329088
...tell us what great country you are all from?


Just in case you wish to know my whereabouts, I'm from the deepest part of the jungle called Suburbia where I travel by mini-vine while listening to jungle drums.....
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: BucklingSpring on Tue, 12 April 2011, 07:59:48
Quote from: neo;328940
Ironically this is also bad for security as inherently limited resources are tied up pointlessly frisking little American girls so the big Saudi Arabian men don't receive the attention they deserve.


Yes he is also going to get attention. Profiling is no urban legend!

I travel the world with colleagues. Me and my stupid candid white ass face almost never get special attention. But I had to wait countless times for my not so white friends. They don't need more attention than me... What makes them so interesting?

Profiling is wrong... That's why the big fat American men don't get the attention they deserve.

Do you know the ratio of Amercians vs foreigners in US prisons? That's right... Mostly amercians :-) No further questions your honor.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: BucklingSpring on Tue, 12 April 2011, 08:25:05
Quote from: .XL;329109
Think about that. Driving to work is many times more dangerous than terrorists...why dont we regulate driving?! Speeds of 25mph max! Rubber bumpers on every car!

... They'd go somewhere else much more crowded. Let's install TSA at every subway station! It's necessary because the terrorist might show up there! Let's put them in every mall And theme park! We must do whatever we can to be safe!


Now you are talking…

The rule #1 of security efficiency is: Cost of protecting the asset must be lower or equal to the value of the asset you're protecting.

The BIG question - Where do you start when you can't afford a holistic approach to security?

We elect our government to allow them to make those difficult decisions. The government can't afford to protect us all. So what to they do with this limited amount of resources? They're protecting their image...

Self preservation rules.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: keyboardlover on Tue, 12 April 2011, 08:28:09
RiGS is from Hungary. That qualifies him to be an expert on America.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: keyboardlover on Tue, 12 April 2011, 08:30:56
Quote from: .XL;329109
Dont be silly. Terrorism never has been and never will be a serious threat.

You must be just as insane as rigs and Alex Jones to believe THAT.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: RiGS on Tue, 12 April 2011, 08:34:02
You obviously can't think outside the box.

Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: keyboardlover on Tue, 12 April 2011, 08:34:44
RiGS, how do feel about Jewish people again?
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: BucklingSpring on Tue, 12 April 2011, 08:37:12
Quote from: keyboardlover;329129
RiGS, how do feel about Jewish people again?


Troll
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: keyboardlover on Tue, 12 April 2011, 08:39:25
Who, me? Just saying, a racist Alex Jones fanatic troll can't be TOO believable...
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: RiGS on Tue, 12 April 2011, 08:39:42
Have you ever read the Talmud?
I encourage you to do so, then we can get back to this.

Btw, I have jewish friends, and relatives.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: RiGS on Tue, 12 April 2011, 08:44:19
I'm fine with his trolling. Amusing to see how desperately he is projecting.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: .XL on Tue, 12 April 2011, 08:44:20
Quote from: keyboardlover;329126
You must be just as insane as rigs and Alex Jones to believe THAT.


Do you watch a lot of Fox News? I have traveled all over the world since 2001...been to every European country except for Spain and Portugal. I've traveled with all their mass transit systems, flown on many planes, and drove on many of their roads. There's nothing to be afraid of.

My family lives just outside Baltimore city. I live just outside north DC. I'm more likely to die visiting either of these places than by terrorist attacks. To be honest, I'm more likely to die DRIVING to either of these places than in a terrorist attack.

Let's count how many terrorist attacks we can think of across the world (Russia notwithstanding, the US doesn't have to worry about Chechnyans). We've got the Madrid bombing, the London Underground bombing, 9-11, and...? We have the 'attempted' terrorists the underwear bomber and the shoe bomber. Doesn't seem like a very often occurrence to me...

Now one thing you have to understand is 'Al Qaeda' doesn't exist. It never has. It's a fairy tale invented by our government. This has been talked about for many years, and was definitely confirmed by MI5 a few months ago. What does this mean? It means that any and all 'terrorist organizations' are extremely loosely based splinter groups of psychos that try to plan attacks. They are all rookies, they have little to no knowledge of what they're doing, and they are very easily caught.

This whole security theater does not make any of us more safe. It does not help us in any way and is a huge drain on tax money. We don't need it and it needs to go the way of the dodo bird.

As a Greek person with a beard, I often get chosen for pat downs and scans. I was in Boston just last week and got patted down on the way in, and scanned the way back. I did not feel like I was more safe. In fact, it's a bit upsetting realizing that this is not an effective security measure. It just causes very, very long lines (had to wait an hour at security at 6 in the morning...) and inconveniences travelers.

This causes a greater problem. International businessmen are less willing to come to the US than before...they don't want to wait for hours at out ridiculous lines and go through security checkpoints that violate their privacy and yet don't actually make anyone more safe.

If you can't understand why this security theater is a problem, then please look into it instead of just forming your own opinion based on no facts except what you read on the TSA website.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: .XL on Tue, 12 April 2011, 08:46:46
Quote from: RiGS;329133
Have you ever read the Talmud?
I encourage you to do so, then we can get back to this.


True. Read the old testament...mostly the same thing, but a bit censored version of the talmud (and more readily available). Then read the Quran.

Personally I don't like any of those religions...all religion does is birth fanatics and bring us all down. I can't wait til religion goes the way of the dodo bird...I think we'll all be much better off.

But anyway...fanatic christians are just as bad as fanatics of every other flavor.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: neo on Tue, 12 April 2011, 08:49:03
Quote from: BucklingSpring;329113
I travel the world with colleagues. Me and my stupid candid white ass face almost never get special attention. But I had to wait countless times for my not so white friends. They don't need more attention than me... What makes them so interesting?

Profiling is wrong...

Depends on what you are trying to achieve. If the goal is to prevent another 9/11, than allocating disproportionate amount of resources to check Arabs and Muslims is the right thing to do (in the absence of more specific intelligence).

Paying more attention to your not so white friends and anyone who could be an Arab and/or a Muslim is much more efficient allocation of inherently limited resources than checking everyone equally.

We could discuss the "moral" side of such approach, but that is a different issue altogether. When it comes to issue of effectiveness there is no doubt that this works and works very well (look at Israel for an example).
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: neo on Tue, 12 April 2011, 08:54:28
Quote from: RiGS;329133
Have you ever read the Talmud?
I encourage you to do so, then we can get back to this.

Old Testament is Talmud. So you treat Christians the same way you treat Jews, I presume?

By the way, the word Jewish is used to describe two different things: religion and ethnicity. There are plenty of non-religious Jews. Does your dislike cover both types or only the religious?
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: RiGS on Tue, 12 April 2011, 09:04:41
Quote
Old Testament is Talmud.


You couldn't be more wrong.

I have no problem with any ethnicity.
However, I do have problems with the hidden effects of the social conditioning based on the Talmud.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: Peter on Tue, 12 April 2011, 09:09:05
Here's what happens when you don't frisk 6-year old terrorists :
They blow **** up !!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LD06SAf0p9A
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: RiGS on Tue, 12 April 2011, 09:14:23
That was a controlled demolition.

Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: BucklingSpring on Tue, 12 April 2011, 09:26:28
Quote from: .XL
This causes a greater problem. International businessmen are less willing to come to the US than before...they don't want to wait for hours at out ridiculous lines and go through security checkpoints that violate their privacy and yet don't actually make anyone more safe.


And you say you travelled all Europeans countries... I guess you forgot your experience in UK. Much more intrusive than anywhere else I went.

I agree that Airport security went crazy since 9-11. But not just in the US. It's noticeable in all Airports with a budget.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: strum4h on Tue, 12 April 2011, 09:37:03
I went through ohare recently and it was a breeze.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: Peter on Tue, 12 April 2011, 09:39:35
Quote from: RiGS;329149
That was a controlled demolition.


No, that was 'Thermal Expansion' ...
I don't care what that Danny Jowenko guy says, who is he,
some kind of demolition-expert who owns a company that blows **** up ??
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: keyboardlover on Tue, 12 April 2011, 09:41:58
Quote from: RiGS;329144
I have no problem with any ethnicity.

I thought you also didn't like gypsies? I must admit, they ARE annoying.

One gave my grandfather the evil eye in Rome because he wouldn't give her money. Wtf?
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: keyboardlover on Tue, 12 April 2011, 09:50:58
"Black cat white cat" is a must see. Hilarious film about gypsies.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: RiGS on Tue, 12 April 2011, 09:51:12
A Group of them stabbed my brother and stole his fishing rod ten years ago.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: BucklingSpring on Tue, 12 April 2011, 09:59:47
Quote from: neo;329138
If the goal is to prevent another 9/11, than allocating disproportionate amount of resources to check Arabs and Muslims is the right thing to do (in the absence of more specific intelligence).

When it comes to issue of effectiveness there is no doubt that this works and works very well (look at Israel for an example).


Sigh... Dude you sound like a radical extremist.
My only tools are reason and education. I'm not equipped to argue with you.

You can wear garlic too... Very efficient against vampires.

9-11 is a single scenario involving an aircraft. One scenario down, how many others to go?

Ask a boxer about protection... Put all your money to save your face and you're going to get punched in the guts.

Have you wonder why we are not getting punched elsewhere although we are all out protecting our airports? Maybe for the same reason no planes have crashed into buildings in billion years before.

Don't get me wrong, it's real… There are crazy people out there prepared to do nasty things to get their point across the table. But I don't think they are as many so called terrorists as we are told. In fact, I would be curious to know where terrorism casualties sit in the list of causes of death due to bad human behavior.

Here's some educative propagada to better understand terrorism


Achmed is a blast... Pun intended
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: Fwiffo on Tue, 12 April 2011, 10:04:16
(http://imagemacros.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/successful-troll-is-successful.jpg)
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: RiGS on Tue, 12 April 2011, 10:05:41
I see Boobs!
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: RiGS on Tue, 12 April 2011, 10:06:43
Quote from: Fwiffo;329182
Show Image
(http://imagemacros.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/successful-troll-is-successful.jpg)


You could easily change your avatar to that picture.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: BucklingSpring on Tue, 12 April 2011, 10:09:17
Quote from: RiGS;329183
I see Boobs!


You mean bombs... right? Do not derail this thread please ;-)
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: Fwiffo on Tue, 12 April 2011, 10:19:00
Quote from: RiGS;329183
I see Boobs!

Wake up sheeple!
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: BucklingSpring on Tue, 12 April 2011, 10:19:36
Quote from: ripster;329172
Love the Gypsies.  Hate the French (unless they play a mean violin).


Ok... Do tell why you hate the French so much?

The kiss?
The croissants?
The déja vue?
The fries?

Must be the fries... because they killed much more americans than any terrorists dead or alive.
The killer fries - Each year, 112,000 people die from (http://www.forbes.com/2007/11/14/health-obesity-cities-forbeslife-cx_rr_1114obese.html)
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: RiGS on Tue, 12 April 2011, 10:21:36
I used to learn French at school. God I hated it. It sounds worse than Danish.

The only French I like is Zidane.

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_houG0Idcedw/SNqWpn7gfAI/AAAAAAAAArs/SJpPVTYlBgg/s400/Cabezazo_Zidane_Materazzi.jpg)
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: Peter on Tue, 12 April 2011, 10:25:16
Quote from: BucklingSpring;329198
Must be the fries... because they killed much more americans than any terrorists dead or alive.
Yeah, but that's hardly any achievement,
Americans kill much more Americans than any theorists do .. ups, 'terrorists'..
every single year it's like 9/11 times ten or something !

NOTHING sounds worse than Danish, even Dutch sounds nicer !!
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: quadibloc on Tue, 12 April 2011, 10:32:46
Quote from: speakeasy;329047
You're 8x more likely to be killed by a police officer than a terrorist.
That's a misleading statistic.

Even if it were true, though, since the chances of dying from a terrorist attack are really low, this doesn't mean our police are dangerous.

More to the point, remember how drastically the U.S. was affected by the events of 9/11? They had a major economic impact, and this impact could easily have been much worse had the government not reacted swiftly. It isn't just the number of people who die, it's the knowledge that those who are responsible can strike again.

We have to make very, very sure that terrorists aren't in a position to deflect the foreign policy of the United States. Once that becomes possible, the vultures start gathering.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: RiGS on Tue, 12 April 2011, 10:36:40
Dutch sounds like a mix of English and German.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: RiGS on Tue, 12 April 2011, 10:39:11
Police (http://blogs.kansascity.com/crime_scene/2010/04/police-shot-unarmed-civilians-after-katrina-officer-testifies.html/) shot unarmed civilians.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: BucklingSpring on Tue, 12 April 2011, 10:48:40
Quote from: quadibloc;329211
It isn't just the number of people who die, it's the knowledge that those who are responsible can strike again.

We have to make very, very sure that terrorists aren't in a position to deflect the foreign policy of the United States.


Exactly!!!!! The biggest impact is not the casualties. It's the terror inflicted to the population. The governments have experts paid to figure out what actions will have the best result at calming the mass. What can they do so we feel safer.  It's not important if we are safer or not as long as we believe we are safe, they're doing their job.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: Lpb45 on Tue, 12 April 2011, 10:55:38
So RiGS what country are you from?  What is it you do for a living?
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: RiGS on Tue, 12 April 2011, 10:56:31
I eat people and take their money. I live in a secret village known for its canibalism in Hungary.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: BucklingSpring on Tue, 12 April 2011, 11:01:31
Quote from: RiGS;329221
Police (http://blogs.kansascity.com/crime_scene/2010/04/police-shot-unarmed-civilians-after-katrina-officer-testifies.html/) shot unarmed civilians.


And you can also find doctors killing patients... So what?

Most people are good and trustworthy. Then you get an isolated incident and we all turn paranoid with excessive reactions.

What can I say... We are dumb all over (http://www.lyricsfreak.com/f/frank+zappa/dumb+all+over_20057039.html)
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: RiGS on Tue, 12 April 2011, 11:02:23
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We have to make very, very sure that terrorists aren't in a position to deflect the foreign policy of the United States.


Yeah, you have to make sure to not let the terrorists taking over the US military bases all around the globe.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: RiGS on Tue, 12 April 2011, 11:06:09
Obama as a Nobel Peace award winner has to bring peace and democracy to the rest of the world, and let the Federal Reserve to take control over their National Banks.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: .XL on Tue, 12 April 2011, 11:09:39
Quote from: RiGS;329242
Obama as a Nobel Peace award winner has YET to bring peace and democracy to ANYWHERE IN the world.


Fixed that for ya
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: Lanx on Tue, 12 April 2011, 11:10:46
Quote from: RiGS;329242
Obama as a Nobel Peace award winner has to bring peace and democracy to the rest of the world, and let the Federal Reserve to take control over their National Banks.


Lol we all know that's not the nobel peace award he got, it really is the world saying "props for being the first black president award" he didn't do no peace.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: RiGS on Tue, 12 April 2011, 11:11:31
Quote from: .XL;329245
Fixed that for ya


Oh thanks! :)
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: Lanx on Tue, 12 April 2011, 11:14:35
Quote from: keyboardlover;329080
It is in the TSA's best interest to protect the greater good of every person on every airplane by making sure bombs and other weapons don't get in. Anything could happen; terrorists could put bombs or other weapons on kids even without them knowing it. When I was 12 they wouldn't even let me bring my keychain on an airplane because it was shaped like a bullet.

TSA are thuggish security guards, I'm pretty sure we all hate them, you just need a HS dipolma and no criminal record to work as one.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: kps on Tue, 12 April 2011, 11:15:12
The fascinating thing about cranks and conspiracy theorists is the juxtaposition of paranoia and gullibility. Rationally, you wouldn't expect the two to go together, but they always do.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: Lpb45 on Tue, 12 April 2011, 11:15:57
Quote from: RiGS;329235
I eat people and take their money. I live in a secret village known for its canibalism in Hungary.

For having such a strong opinion about other countries it seems pretty odd to me that you wont even mention where you are really from?  how come?
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: .XL on Tue, 12 April 2011, 11:16:05
Quote from: Lanx;329250
TSA are thuggish security guards, I'm pretty sure we all hate them, you just need a HS dipolma and no criminal record to work as one.


You can even get in with a criminal record. Just not violent crime. Not many people want to be TSA, so they take who they can get.

Quote from: kps;329252
The fascinating thing about cranks and conspiracy theorists is the juxtaposition of paranoia and gullibility. Rationally, you wouldn't expect the two to go together, but they always do.


Who are you referring to?
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: kps on Tue, 12 April 2011, 11:29:16
Quote from: .XL;329254
Who are you referring to?


All of them. It's subject-independent.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: RiGS on Tue, 12 April 2011, 11:38:52
Quote from: kps;329252
The fascinating thing about cranks and conspiracy theorists is the juxtaposition of paranoia and gullibility. Rationally, you wouldn't expect the two to go together, but they always do.


The fascinating thing about sheep is the ignorance to the fact they are about to be slaughtered in a slaughterhouse.

There are way too many people having Stockholm syndrome.

Many "consipracy theories" turned out to be truth.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: BucklingSpring on Tue, 12 April 2011, 11:42:16
Quote from: kps;329261
All of them. It's subject-independent.


LoL - Words of wisdom :-)
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: BucklingSpring on Tue, 12 April 2011, 11:49:23
Quote from: ripster;329268
I found this movie fascinating.


I just Googled Temple Grandin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_Grandin) - Waow!

I don't know how it relates to this thread but Fascinating indeed - I'm now seeking the DVD... Thanks to you.

History if full of miracles.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: Fwiffo on Tue, 12 April 2011, 11:51:51
Quote from: kps;329261
All of them. It's subject-independent.

What's most amazing is their ability to mix and match and adapt their paranoia for any situation. "The Rothschild family and global warming alarmists assassinated JFK and stole Walt Disney's brain so they could fake the moon landing and Obama's birth certificate and build a highway between Mexico and Canada! Wake up sheeple!"
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: kps on Tue, 12 April 2011, 11:52:33
Quote from: RiGS;329267
The fascinating thing about sheep is the ignorance to the fact they are about to be slaughtered in a slaughterhouse.


Curses, foiled again! If you'd said "sheeple" I'd have bingo.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: BucklingSpring on Tue, 12 April 2011, 12:03:10
Quote from: ripster;329278
Aren't too many movies with "Slaughterhouse" in them.  Slaughterhouse Five is another one.

Ok... I was wondering what autism had to do with it... Once again the wise was pointing the moon and the idiot(me) kept looking at the finger.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: RiGS on Tue, 12 April 2011, 12:07:46
Quote from: Fwiffo;329276
What's most amazing is their ability to mix and match and adapt their paranoia for any situation. "The Rothschild family and global warming alarmists assassinated JFK and stole Walt Disney's brain so they could fake the moon landing and Obama's birth certificate and build a highway between Mexico and Canada! Wake up sheeple!"





Alex's interview with the British "adventurer and naturopath" David de Rothschild on global warming.
It's quite fascinating.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: Fwiffo on Tue, 12 April 2011, 12:09:24
LOL. You just can't parody these people.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: keyboardlover on Tue, 12 April 2011, 13:21:29
Since RiGS joined it's been like Welly never left.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: Lanx on Tue, 12 April 2011, 13:34:34
can we all agree that if anyone believes obama is not a us citizen, is a certified idiot? (or racist i mean come on)
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: neo on Tue, 12 April 2011, 13:41:28
Quote from: BucklingSpring;329178
Sigh... Dude you sound like a radical extremist.

Radical extremist? For pointing out the fact that every one of the 9/11 attackers was an Arab and a Muslim? Just let me get this straight, are you going to dispute that fact, or are you going to call radical extremist anyone who points it out?

There is a world of difference between statements "most Muslims are terrorists" and "most terrorists are Muslims". But you seem to be unable to grasp it.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: Fwiffo on Tue, 12 April 2011, 14:01:53
I don't know if "most terrorists are Muslims" is strictly true. There are a lot of domestic terrorists in this country who are not Muslim, e.g. the Oklahoma City bombing, countless abortion clinic bombings and attempted and successful assassinations of abortion doctors, that guy who flew a plane into an IRS building (to little effect), that guy who shot up a unitarian church, the Atlanta Olympics bombing, various militias, the anthrax mailings, etc.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: neo on Tue, 12 April 2011, 14:17:17
Quote from: Fwiffo;329356
I don't know if "most terrorists are Muslims" is strictly true. There are a lot of domestic terrorists in this country who are not Muslim, e.g. the Oklahoma City bombing, countless abortion clinic bombings and attempted and successful assassinations of abortion doctors, that guy who flew a plane into an IRS building (to little effect), that guy who shot up a unitarian church, the Atlanta Olympics bombing, various militias, the anthrax mailings, etc.

All true, but TSA is not after terrorists assassinating abortion doctors and attacking IRS buildings. There is a major OPENLY DECLARED threat from Muslim fundamentalists, who are OPENLY SAYING they will attack us again. Spending equal amount of effort checking everyone when we know the threat is from Arabs/Muslims is an inefficient allocation of inherently limited resources.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: Fwiffo on Tue, 12 April 2011, 14:33:49
If we've got limited resources to spend on security, we shouldn't be wasting them on security theater and expensive equipment that doesn't even work:
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: phillip on Tue, 12 April 2011, 14:40:17
the tsa along with all this security theatre is a ****ing joke
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: BucklingSpring on Tue, 12 April 2011, 14:45:23
Quote from: neo;329345
There is a world of difference between statements "most Muslims are terrorists" and "most terrorists are Muslims". But you seem to be unable to grasp it.


Really? So which one do you agree with?
I think they are both wrong and void pretty much any credibility of yours. Such statements also demonstrate even more your radical position.

Btw - What part of me quoting you you didn't get?

And please remind me where Timothy McVeigh was from again?

I'm wasting my time writing back to you but it's an amusing argument. So go on and try to surprise me.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: RiGS on Tue, 12 April 2011, 15:09:52
Quote from: phillip;329387
the tsa along with all this security theatre is a ****ing joke


Sadly this is not a joke! Those scanners could cause your cancer!

http://www.naturalnews.com/030607_naked_body_scanners_radiation.html (http://www.naturalnews.com/030607_naked_body_scanners_radiation.html)

Even doctors avoid (http://www.infowars.com/doctors-on-why-they-avoid-naked-body-scanners-at-airports/) it.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: neo on Tue, 12 April 2011, 15:11:00
Quote from: RiGS;329144
I do have problems with the hidden effects of the social conditioning based on the Talmud.


There is a lot of garbage in "holy" books of all three major religions. Koran probably wins this competition, but both Bible and Talmud aren't far behind. What's much more important is the fact that Koran is still closely followed by a huge number of people, many of them still taking it literally, while both Bible and Talmud have long lost most of the "target audience".

I don't know if you realize this, but the things you are saying portray a classical anti-Semite, the type that was "socially conditioned" in Europe for centuries.
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Post by: RiGS on Tue, 12 April 2011, 15:15:02
Have you actually read it? Have you ever talked with a real jew?
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: BucklingSpring on Tue, 12 April 2011, 15:16:49
Quote from: neo;329422
There is a lot of garbage in "holy" books of all three major religions.


For once I agree with you... That's why I quoted the "Dumb All Over" song from Zappa earlier in this thead.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: neo on Tue, 12 April 2011, 15:18:33
Quote from: BucklingSpring;329393
Quote from: neo;329345
There is a world of difference between statements "most Muslims are terrorists" and "most terrorists are Muslims". But you seem to be unable to grasp it.

Really?


Yes, really. Those two statements are very different.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: BucklingSpring on Tue, 12 April 2011, 15:19:49
Quote from: neo;329422
the things you are saying portray a classical anti-Semite, the type that was "socially conditioned" in Europe for centuries.


Rigs gets regularly flamed for his anti-Semite view here.
But he doesn't mind and will add more oil on the fire if needed.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: RiGS on Tue, 12 April 2011, 15:22:36
Quote from: neo;329422
I don't know if you realize this, but the things you are saying portray a classical anti-Semite, the type that was "socially conditioned" in Europe for centuries.


Quote
Radical extremist? For pointing out the fact that every one of the 9/11 attackers was an Arab and a Muslim?


Only foolish people believe that crap. This is a blatant propaganda of the US government.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: neo on Tue, 12 April 2011, 15:23:42
Quote from: RiGS;329426
Have you actually read it? Have you ever talked with a real jew?


A real Jew? Kind of like a True Scotsman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman)? In other words, any Jew that doesn't fit your prejudice isn't "real Jew"?
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: BucklingSpring on Tue, 12 April 2011, 15:24:45
Quote from: neo;329429
Yes, really. Those two statements are very different.


You didn't answer my question. Which one you think is right?
I didn't say they were the same, I said they are both wrong. In that regard they are no different.
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Post by: neo on Tue, 12 April 2011, 15:27:24
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Radical extremist? For pointing out the fact that every one of the 9/11 attackers was an Arab and a Muslim?

Quote from: RiGS;329436
Only foolish people believe that crap. This is a blatant propaganda of the US government.


Tell us the truth than, who was behind 9/11 attacks?
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: RiGS on Tue, 12 April 2011, 15:33:08
You obviously doesn't know anything about Jewish religion and ethics.
Feel free to worship their ideas.
I choose not to...
If you think refusing those ideas is anti-semitism, I'm fine with that as well.
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Post by: RiGS on Tue, 12 April 2011, 15:34:46
Some of the people can't handle the truth. You are one of them.
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Post by: neo on Tue, 12 April 2011, 15:39:41
Quote from: RiGS;329446
You obviously doesn't know anything about Jewish religion and ethics.
Feel free to worship their ideas.
I choose not to...
If you think refusing those ideas is anti-semitism, I'm fine with that as well.


I said Talmud was full of garbage. Does that look like worship to you? The fact that you choose to ignore similar or worse garbage in Bible and Koran - that's what gives away the racist "social conditioning" you went through.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: neo on Tue, 12 April 2011, 15:40:39
Quote from: RiGS;329448
Some of the people can't handle the truth. You are one of them.


Maybe someone else here can. Come on, tell us. What's the problem?
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: RiGS on Tue, 12 April 2011, 15:48:58
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I said Talmud was full of garbage.

Yet it is a code by the "real" Jewish people live.

Judaism and Talmud are strongly connected, and those ideas are dangerous on other(Non-Jewish) civilizations.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: neo on Tue, 12 April 2011, 15:49:25
Quote from: ripster;329459
Don't expect me to get involved.

My hands are full eating the popcorn.


Didn't you master one hand typing browsing porn sites?
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: BucklingSpring on Tue, 12 April 2011, 15:51:19
Quote from: neo;329440
Tell us the truth than, who was behind 9/11 attacks?


We'll never know the full ramifications of the incident.
You are trying too hard to put a face on the problem. Terrorism is poor man's warfare all around the world. It doesn't have a home country, religion or color.

It's a marginal desperate action done by marginal desperate people. Where they come from or the God(s) they pray is totally irrelevant.
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Post by: Lanx on Tue, 12 April 2011, 15:54:30
Quote from: RiGS;329463

All Religion are strongly connected, and those ideas are dangerous on every civilizations.


That's how i feel really.
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Post by: Fwiffo on Tue, 12 April 2011, 15:59:38
Can't wait to hear RiGS's thoughts on the holocaust.
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Post by: RiGS on Tue, 12 April 2011, 16:02:52
Quote from: Lanx;329473
That's how i feel really.


Next time leave me out of that.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: neo on Tue, 12 April 2011, 16:05:41
Quote from: BucklingSpring;329468
We'll never know the full ramifications of the incident.
You are trying too hard to put a face on the problem. Terrorism is poor man's warfare all around the world. It doesn't have a home country, religion or color.

It's a marginal desperate action done by marginal desperate people. Where they come from or the God(s) they pray is totally irrelevant.


The tactics of warfare are indeed irrelevant, but the identity and motivation of perpetrators is not. You are trying too hard to avoid looking at the root of the problem. A significant part of Arab/Muslim world is at war with us. We know this is the tactic they choose when they attack. Doesn't it make sense to defend against this specific enemy WE KNOW IS TRYING TO ATTACK instead of frisking little white girls for the benefit of political correctness?
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: RiGS on Tue, 12 April 2011, 16:13:05
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The fact that you choose to ignore similar or worse garbage in Bible and Koran - that's what gives away the racist "social conditioning" you went through.


I have never been asked about those.

All I made an innocent joke about Jewish people, and KL the resident troll made me look like a racist.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: RiGS on Tue, 12 April 2011, 16:17:18
Quote from: Fwiffo;329476
Can't wait to hear RiGS's thoughts on the holocaust.


You are a funny troll!
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Post by: RiGS on Tue, 12 April 2011, 16:19:30
Quote from: neo;329481
The tactics of warfare are indeed irrelevant, but the identity and motivation of perpetrators is not. You are trying too hard to avoid looking at the root of the problem. A significant part of Arab/Muslim world is at war with us. We know this is the tactic they choose when they attack. Doesn't it make sense to defend against this specific enemy WE KNOW IS TRYING TO ATTACK instead of frisking little white girls for the benefit of political correctness?


TBH you are the racist.
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Post by: neo on Tue, 12 April 2011, 16:26:15
Quote from: RiGS;329499
TBH you are the racist.


If I said I don't like Arabs, that would make me a racist. You know, the way you said you don't like Jews.
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Post by: BucklingSpring on Tue, 12 April 2011, 16:37:05
Quote from: neo;329481
WE KNOW IS TRYING TO ATTACK instead of frisking little white girls for the benefit of political correctness?


Just as you knew you were going to find WMD's in Iraq?

I don't expect you to change your mind. So I'd just agree to disagree.
Feel free to label people as you whish.

Anecdote of mine, just like a MasterCard Ad.
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Post by: RiGS on Tue, 12 April 2011, 16:38:19
racism=hate
I have never said I hate them, however I have the right to not like them.
I don't like clicky switches either, yet I don't hate the people who own them.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: Lanx on Tue, 12 April 2011, 17:05:09
wow you must be some dumb white guy if all you think racism= is hate.
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Post by: neo on Tue, 12 April 2011, 17:07:43
Quote from: neo;329481
WE KNOW IS TRYING TO ATTACK instead of frisking little white girls for the benefit of political correctness?
Quote from: BucklingSpring;329512
Just as you knew you were going to find WMD's in Iraq?

I think there is a little more evidence in this case. Like the numerous Muslim organizations OPENLY SAYING they will attack us. And a little fact that they regularly do carry out these attacks (or try to) all over the western world, not just in US.

Turns out we CAN have a discussion without resolving to personal insults. I hope ripster isn't too disappointed.
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Post by: BucklingSpring on Tue, 12 April 2011, 17:25:08
Quote from: neo;329538
Turns out we CAN have a discussion without resolving to personal insults. I hope ripster isn't too disappointed.


He's stimulated by quality content. Not sure if insults qualify.
Who knows. Let see.
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Post by: RiGS on Tue, 12 April 2011, 17:26:49
Quote from: Lanx;329537
wow you must be some dumb white guy if all you think racism= is hate.


So you are the defiinite expert on racism, and that's why you have authorized yourself to call me a dumb white guy.
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Post by: BucklingSpring on Tue, 12 April 2011, 17:33:47
Quote from: RiGS;329547
So you are the defiinite expert on racism, and that's why you have authorized yourself to call me a dumb white guy.


ROFL
(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=16849&stc=1&d=1302647607)
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Post by: neo on Tue, 12 April 2011, 17:34:16
Quote from: RiGS;329514
racism=hate
I have never said I hate them, however I have the right to not like them.
I don't like clicky switches either, yet I don't hate the people who own them.


Of course you have a right not to like them. This, of course, makes you a racist and gives us a right to call you a racist. But one has to admit anti-Semites are not what they used to be. People who invented the term were proud to call themselves anti-Semites. And now look at you... I guess after the Holocaust this term lost some of it's sex appeal. But at least the essence is alive and well...
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Post by: neo on Tue, 12 April 2011, 17:37:00
Quote from: RiGS;329547
So you are the defiinite expert on racism, and that's why you have authorized yourself to call me a dumb white guy.


But was he factually incorrect?
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Post by: keyboardlover on Tue, 12 April 2011, 17:40:24
Unlike RiGS, I am NOT an anti-semite. I am an anti-dentite.
That's right, I don't like dentists. And I'm F**king proud of it!

(http://stonesfamilydental.com/images/videohumor/kramer-and-the-dentist.jpg)
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Post by: BucklingSpring on Tue, 12 April 2011, 17:45:16
Quote from: keyboardlover;329560
Unlike RiGS, I am NOT an anti-semite. I am an anti-dentite.
That's right, I don't like dentists.


I hate condoms what does it make me?
(Don't say "hiv seropositive", cauz I know I'm not)
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Post by: RiGS on Tue, 12 April 2011, 17:46:54
Quote from: neo;329553
Of course you have a right not to like them. This, of course, makes you a racist and gives us a right to call you a racist. But one has to admit anti-Semites are not what they used to be. People who invented the term were proud to call themselves anti-Semites. And now look at you... I guess after the Holocaust this term lost some of it's sex appeal. But at least the essence is alive and well...


Do you like gay people?
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: neo on Tue, 12 April 2011, 17:49:55
Quote from: BucklingSpring;329563
I hate condoms what does it make me?
(Don't say "hiv seropositive", cauz I know I'm not)


Mother of Many?
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Post by: keyboardlover on Tue, 12 April 2011, 17:51:24
RiGS, don't tell me you have a problem with gays too...
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Post by: neo on Tue, 12 April 2011, 17:53:36
Quote from: RiGS;329565
Do you like gay people?


I like some of them and dislike some of them. My liking or disliking depends on specific person and not on the fact that he or she is gay.
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Post by: keyboardlover on Tue, 12 April 2011, 17:54:54
I think that's how most people are. That's how I am anyway. It's called tolerance.
It's this thing that we started developing after WWII. Apparently RiGS didn't get the memo.

Or telegram or whatever.
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Post by: RiGS on Tue, 12 April 2011, 17:55:07
So you are gay person who dislike gay people.
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Post by: keyboardlover on Tue, 12 April 2011, 17:56:09
How did you get that from what was posted?
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Post by: RiGS on Tue, 12 April 2011, 17:57:34
Alex told me that.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: keyboardlover on Tue, 12 April 2011, 17:58:31
You are getting creepier with every post.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: BucklingSpring on Tue, 12 April 2011, 18:06:13
Quote from: neo;329567
Mother of Many?


Cute! but not, I'm a guy.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: keyboardlover on Tue, 12 April 2011, 18:13:56
I don't like condoms either. Gotta be raw!!
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: .XL on Tue, 12 April 2011, 18:34:22
Seriously...do you really think these Muslim extremists 'regularly' carry out attacks? I can't believe you...where are you getting your news from? MAYBE 10 times in the last 10 years, and I definitely don't call that 'regular.' If you want to define terrorism as the intentional killing of innocents, then the US is the biggest terrorist organization of all. How many tens of thousands of innocents have we killed in Iraq and Afghanistan? How many have we killed in Libya 'by accident'? What about all the weapons we give to Israel, mostly financed by OUR tax dollars, that go to oppressing and killing innocent Palestinians?

If you think these terrorists are all Muslims, you're wrong. The snipers in Iraq and Afghanistan that are killing our soldiers? Chechnyan guns for hire. The people teaching these extremist groups how to make bombs? Chechnyans. If we really want to stop terrorism by your method, we should force all the European nations to immediately detain and run a background check on any Eastern European/Balkan/Russian people that walk the streets.

But of course, that won't work. They're white, and they're Christian. It would seem like it's ridiculous. The reason Muslims are looked at this way is because their culture, way of life, and religion is so different from ours.

Have you ever read any part of the Quran? It does not sound any more militant than the Old Testament, and the Talmud is even more so militant.

Oh, and of course there can't be any Jewish terrorists, right? Oh wait...look at Mossad. Yeah, they're not bad at all. I have a friend that went and trained with them this summer...heartless bastard, like me...and he told me some crazy stories. **** I wouldn't be able to do.

Before you talk, make sure you know what you're getting at. There's no need to go all Fox News up in this *****. Many of us are educated, open-minded, non-religious, and with strong international background. We can spot propaganda and general bull**** pretty well.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: keyboardlover on Tue, 12 April 2011, 18:40:25
Quote from: .XL;329596

Many of us are educated, open-minded, non-religious, and with strong international background. We can spot propaganda and general bull**** pretty well.


I guess that crowd doesn't include you. I count a lot more than 10 terrorist attacks, in 2010 alone (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents,_2010).

Want more knowledge? Here's 2009 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents,_2009), 2008 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents,_2008), 2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents,_2007), 2006 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents,_2006), 2005 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents,_2005), 2004 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents,_2004), 2003 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents,_2003), 2002 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents,_2002) and 2001 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents,_2001).

Personally, I am educated, open-minded and religious as well (Christian). But I am tolerant of others. Unlike RiGS.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: neo on Tue, 12 April 2011, 18:45:29
Quote from: .XL;329596
If you think these terrorists are all Muslims, you're wrong. The snipers in Iraq and Afghanistan that are killing our soldiers? Chechnyan guns for hire. The people teaching these extremist groups how to make bombs? Chechnyans.


This is priceless. And who do you think Chechens are? Buddhists? And this guy is telling me "Before you talk, make sure you know what you're getting at". Like I said - priceless.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: RiGS on Tue, 12 April 2011, 18:47:31
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Personally, I am educated, open-minded and religious as well (Christian). But I am tolerant of others


:rofl:
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: keyboardlover on Tue, 12 April 2011, 18:48:41
Why is that funny?
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: .XL on Tue, 12 April 2011, 18:52:25
Quote from: keyboardlover;329598
I guess that crowd doesn't include you. I count a lot more than 10 terrorist attacks, in 2010 alone (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents,_2010).

Want more knowledge? Here's 2009 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents,_2009), 2008 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents,_2008), 2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents,_2007), 2006 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents,_2006), 2005 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents,_2005), 2004 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents,_2004), 2003 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents,_2003), 2002 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents,_2002) and 2001 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents,_2001).

Personally, I am educated, open-minded and religious as well (Christian). But I am tolerant of others. Unlike RiGS.


Nice try, but you know I'm referencing Muslim extremist groups (the topic at hand). Terrorist attack =/= Muslim extremist terrorist attack. Half of those on the 2011 list are non-Muslims, and 1/4 are acts of war. And I don't think a single Somali man running at someone with an axe is a terrorist attack.

Quote from: neo;329602
This is priceless. And who do you think Chechens are? Buddhists? And this guy is telling me "Before you talk, make sure you know what you're getting at". Like I said - priceless.


I mentioned them as being Christians...again with the idiocy. READ the statement, don't read one part and make assumptions.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: keyboardlover on Tue, 12 April 2011, 18:54:58
Quote from: .XL
Nice try, but you know I'm referencing Muslim extremist groups (the topic at hand). Terrorist attack =/= Muslim extremist terrorist attack. Half of those on the 2011 list are non-Muslims, and 1/4 are acts of war. And I don't think a single Somali man running at someone with an axe is a terrorist attack.


I thought the topic at hand was the TSA pedobearing a little girl?

(http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/thumb/4/40/Pedobear_stephanie_sex.gif/180px-Pedobear_stephanie_sex.gif)

Anyway, if you actually read the list you'd see that NEARLY ALL the attacks listed were by Muslims. That's pretty interesting. Although, Islam is one of the least tolerant and most popular religions today, so it's not exactly surprising.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: neo on Tue, 12 April 2011, 18:55:59
Quote from: .XL;329610
I mentioned them as being Christians...


You are truly hilarious!
Even after my post you didn't bother to look up who Chechens are?
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: RiGS on Tue, 12 April 2011, 18:59:09
Quote from: keyboardlover;329615
I thought the topic at hand was the TSA pedobearing a little girl?

Show Image
(http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/thumb/4/40/Pedobear_stephanie_sex.gif/180px-Pedobear_stephanie_sex.gif)



You need to get the pink Filco with mx browns.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: keyboardlover on Tue, 12 April 2011, 18:59:33
Maybe .XL and RiGS went to the same school?

In any case, RiGS' opinions about the USA probably are mostly due to a lack of education. I've noticed in many discussions with Europeans over the years that the value and strength of U.S. History and Government education in Europe varies GREATLY from country to country. I took AP U.S. History and Government in high school so I'm pretty knowledgeable in this domain (not to toot my own horn or anything).

For the most part, Europeans who claim Americans know more about their own country/continent than anywhere else - are usually in the exact same boat.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: RiGS on Tue, 12 April 2011, 19:01:27
You are obsessed with me. Do you want my keyboard with cherry blacks?
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: .XL on Tue, 12 April 2011, 19:02:23
Quote from: keyboardlover;329615
I thought the topic at hand was the TSA pedobearing a little girl?

Show Image
(http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/thumb/4/40/Pedobear_stephanie_sex.gif/180px-Pedobear_stephanie_sex.gif)


Anyway, if you actually read the list you'd see that NEARLY ALL the attacks listed were by Muslims. That's pretty interesting. Although, Islam is one of the least tolerant and most popular religions today, so it's not exactly surprising.


I agree with you. Islam is very intolerant, and another worthless religion along the lines of Christianity, Judaism, et al, that preach their own and hate on others.

I looked for all the Muslim attacks, and the most were in Afghanistan, Iraq, and Pakistan. Countries that are at war. The whole India - Pakistan thing has been going for a looooong time...there are often small skirmishes there. Hutu rebels throwing grenades at a gas station? Is that another terrorist attack on the lines we're talking about?

Narrow down that list to attacks in Europe and the United States. That is what we're talking about. Terrorism is a very broad term, and not every part of it's definition is applicable to our argument.

Quote from: neo;329616
You are truly hilarious!
Even after my post you didn't bother to look up who Chechens are?


Go by Wikipedia, if you'd like. The whole 'all Chechens are muslims' thing is a myth made by the Russian government. I have Chechen friends in Greece, all Orthodox Christians, who tell me the opposite.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: keyboardlover on Tue, 12 April 2011, 19:03:36
Quote from: RiGS;329624
You are obsessed with me.


You know what's funny? Welly used to say the exact same thing.

He used to...
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: .XL on Tue, 12 April 2011, 19:03:45
Quote from: keyboardlover;329622
Maybe .XL and RiGS went to the same school?

In any case, RiGS' opinions about the USA probably are mostly due to a lack of education. I've noticed in many discussions with Europeans over the years that the value and strength of U.S. History and Government education in Europe varies GREATLY from country to country. I took AP U.S. History and Government in high school so I'm pretty knowledgeable in this domain (not to toot my own horn or anything).

For the most part, Europeans who claim Americans know more about their own country/continent than anywhere else - are usually in the exact same boat.


Born and raised in the US, my friend. Most other countries really dislike us not because they don't understand us, but because they don't like our arrogance and how we decide to bully around anyone we please.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: keyboardlover on Tue, 12 April 2011, 19:06:18
Quote from: .XL;329628
Born and raised in the US, my friend. Most other countries really dislike us not because they don't understand us, but because they don't like our arrogance and how we decide to bully around anyone we please.


No, it's because they don't understand us. And we don't understand them.

For example, try understanding Icelandic children's TV programs.

(http://regeneratormag.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/head_over_heels.jpg)
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: neo on Tue, 12 April 2011, 19:09:52
Quote from: .xl;329625
the whole 'all chechens are muslims' thing is a myth made by the russian government.

wow...
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: .XL on Tue, 12 April 2011, 19:10:12
Quote from: keyboardlover;329630
No, it's because they don't understand us. And we don't understand them.

For example, try understanding Icelandic children's TV programs.

Show Image
(http://regeneratormag.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/head_over_heels.jpg)


'Nick Jr.' ...lol...isn't that a US only channel?
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: keyboardlover on Tue, 12 April 2011, 19:10:23
neo, you are not alone. I am pretty much in awe at this point.

.XL, no, Nick shows programs from other countries as well. "Lazy Town" is Icelandic. I thought you said you were all smart and stuff?
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: .XL on Tue, 12 April 2011, 19:11:11
Quote from: neo;329634
wow...


Yes, wow. Did you not know this? Let me also fill you in...not all Iranians are Muslims. Not all Afghanis are Muslims. There's a group of them that actually believe in the Gods of Olympus! TIL, huh?
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: .XL on Tue, 12 April 2011, 19:12:58
Quote from: keyboardlover;329636
neo, you are not alone. I am pretty much in awe at this point.

.XL, no, Nick shows programs from other countries as well. "Lazy Town" is Icelandic. I thought you said you were all smart and stuff?


In awe? In awe of what? That you did not prove to me that Muslims are behind the majority of terrorist attacks? You linked a wikipedia page where the most of the attacks were by non-Muslims or in areas currently embroiled in war. I think I should be the one in awe...that you would claim most of those were pure terrorist attacks perpetrated by Muslims.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: keyboardlover on Tue, 12 April 2011, 19:13:57
Did you even read the wikipedia pages? the majority of attacks on there were by muslim extremists.

I'll make it easier for you - there's a column on the page called "Perpetrator". Start there and then scroll down. The majority are either "Al Quaeda" or "Taliban".

Quote from: .XL
I agree with you. Islam is very intolerant, and another worthless religion along the lines of Christianity, Judaism, et al, that preach their own and hate on others.


Your intolerance of religions period only further shows your ignorance. I, and most of the people I know and am related to are Christians. We are ALL very tolerant of other people and religions and we don't "Hate" on others or "preach" at all. Get a clue, dude.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: RiGS on Tue, 12 April 2011, 19:19:41
Did you know that Wikipedia is written by occasional, and sometimes incompetent contributors?
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: .XL on Tue, 12 April 2011, 19:19:47
Quote from: keyboardlover;329640
Did you even read the wikipedia pages? the majority of attacks on there were by muslim extremists.

I'll make it easier for you - there's a column on the page called "Perpetrator". Start there and then scroll down. The majority are either "Al Quaeda" or "Taliban".


Pakistan - state of war. Afghanistan - state of war. How does this all influence our flying?

I'm looking at the European and the US attacks...Basque separatists, Greek radicals, lone psychos, church shooting done by a white American...where is the Muslim extremist groups attacking the US or Europe? I've found Exeter, England. I've found the car left in Times Square. I know of the Underground bombing. I know of the Madrid train bombing...
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: keyboardlover on Tue, 12 April 2011, 19:21:00
Quote from: RiGS;329644
Did you know that Wikipedia is written by occasional, and sometimes incompetent contributors?


Same goes for GeekHack posts. At least Wikipedia writers USUALLY cite their sources.

Here's a link to the page's references (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents,_2011#References).
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: .XL on Tue, 12 April 2011, 19:24:21
Quote from: keyboardlover;329640

Your intolerance of religions period only further shows your ignorance. I, and most of the people I know and am related to are Christians. We are ALL very tolerant of other people and religions and we don't "Hate" on others or "preach" at all. Get a clue, dude.


Intolerance of religions? Really? Where did I show that in any of my posts? I have no issue with any religion, nationality, race, or creed.

I am an atheist and believe all religions are inherently bad for society. Look what they have done in the middle east. Look what they have done in Israel. Look what they have done here, in the US!

Quote from: keyboardlover;329646
Same goes for GeekHack posts. At least Wikipedia writers USUALLY cite their sources.

Here's a link to the page's references (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents,_2011#References).


Oh nice, now I can read about the third terrorist attack perpetrated in the US in 2009...the third by white Americans!
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: neo on Tue, 12 April 2011, 19:24:23
Quote from: .XL;329638
Yes, wow. Did you not know this? Let me also fill you in...not all Iranians are Muslims. Not all Afghanis are Muslims. There's a group of them that actually believe in the Gods of Olympus! TIL, huh?


So this is going to be your defense? Seriously?

As long a you can find a single non-Muslim Chechen, the fact that absolute majority of them are Muslims and have been Muslims since 15th century isn't going to matter anymore?
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: keyboardlover on Tue, 12 April 2011, 19:28:14
Quote from: .XL;329647
Intolerance of religions? Really? Where did I show that in any of my posts? I have no issue with any religion, nationality, race, or creed.


You showed it here:

Quote from: .XL
I agree with you. Islam is very intolerant, and another worthless religion along the lines of Christianity, Judaism, et al, that preach their own and hate on others.


Saying these religions are "worthless" shows that you don't "tolerate" them.
****in' logic, how does it work??

ANYWAY, getting back on topic...

(http://reaction.ralfvandenboom.nl/img/p0HsDaDyke.jpg)
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: BucklingSpring on Tue, 12 April 2011, 19:29:02
Lets make a survey - Who do you think is most dangerous?

This clown?
(http://www.cln.bc.ca/What's_New/Images/ronald_mcdonald_jumping.jpg)

Or that clown?
(http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/02_1/binladenAP0702_228x322.jpg)
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: RiGS on Tue, 12 April 2011, 19:30:45
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****in' logic, how does it work??

You got like 108 in that IQ test, didn't you?
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: .XL on Tue, 12 April 2011, 19:31:06
Quote from: neo;329648
So this is going to be your defense? Seriously?

As long a you can find a single non-Muslim Chechen, the fact that absolute majority of them are Muslims and have been Muslims since 15th century isn't going to matter anymore?


Okay, lets run with that. The majority of Chechnyans (from Chechnya) are Muslim. Got it. Now, do you think you would be able to tell the Chechen Muslims apart from a Russian, Eastern European, or Balkan person? I've been looking at pictures on Google and as far as I can tell, if they're not wearing their taqiyah and do not have the imam-sized beard, they look like Russians. One of the guys even looks a bit like me...

Should I start getting stopped at checkpoints now?
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: .XL on Tue, 12 April 2011, 19:32:58
Quote from: keyboardlover;329650
You showed it here:



Saying these religions are "worthless" shows that you don't "tolerate" them.
****in' logic, how does it work??

ANYWAY, getting back on topic...



Worthless, i.e., show no worth. Does that not make sense to you? No, I don't think religions serve a purpose. Does that make me intolerant? No, not at all.

Two of my best friends are staunch Presbyterians. My family is Greek Orthodox. I tolerate them and their religious beliefs just fine. I don't try and impose mine on anyone else. They know where I stand, and they know I don't try to interfere with their beliefs.

Try again.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: keyboardlover on Tue, 12 April 2011, 19:33:09
LOL, you think all eastern europeans look alike? Now THAT's racist!

Personally I have a thing for Romanian girls. Hottest girls in the best country in Eastern Europe!

(http://euro2008girls.com/pics/romanian-girl-08.jpg)

And they look nothing like Russian girls btw. Way hotter.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: .XL on Tue, 12 April 2011, 19:36:12
Quote from: keyboardlover;329657
LOL, you think all eastern europeans look alike? Now THAT's racist!

Personally I have a thing for Romanian girls. Hottest girls in the best country in Eastern Europe!


Romania? Best country of Eastern Europe? Have you ever been...? Hungary, Czech Republic, Bulgaria...last time I drove in Romania their North-South highway was still two dirt lanes until maybe 10 miles from the Bulgarian border. This was in 2009.

And I am Eastern European...
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: RiGS on Tue, 12 April 2011, 19:37:31
Just to clarify Hungary is middle Europe.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: BucklingSpring on Tue, 12 April 2011, 19:37:51
Quote from: keyboardlover;329657
Personally I have a thing for Romanian girls. Hottest girls in the best country in Eastern Europe!


Lol - A Romanian colleague once told me – Never fall in love with a Romanian girl unless you want to lose the grip on your life.
Apparently they are control freaks.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: keyboardlover on Tue, 12 April 2011, 19:37:52
Yes, I was there in 2009. And they had paved roads Mr. SMARTY PANTS.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: guilleguillaume on Tue, 12 April 2011, 19:38:11
Quote from: keyboardlover;329657
LOL, you think all eastern europeans look alike? Now THAT's racist!

Personally I have a thing for Romanian girls. Hottest girls in the best country in Eastern Europe!




And they look nothing like Russian girls btw. Way hotter.

I'm with you. Threy're so hot.

RiGS are the hungarian ones hot as well?
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: keyboardlover on Tue, 12 April 2011, 19:39:47
They are, but not quite as hot. Romanians are hotter because of their Latin roots.

I know because there are a lot of Hungarians in Brasov (where I was).
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: BucklingSpring on Tue, 12 April 2011, 19:40:54
Quote from: keyboardlover;329657
And they look nothing like Russian girls btw. Way hotter.


I'm not going to challenge your taste. But I wouldn't mind frisking that Russian girl
(http://www.anecdotoff.com/uploads/posts/2008-02/thumbs/1202669136_super-sexy-russian-girl.jpg)
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: .XL on Tue, 12 April 2011, 19:40:59
Quote from: keyboardlover;329670
Yes, I was there in 2009. And they had paved roads Mr. SMARTY PANTS.


I'll assume that was in Bucharest, and you didn't head out to the eastern border. Then you'd know what I mean.

On a totally related note, Hungarian women are fantastic. Swedish are still the best though.

Finland and Hungary are linguistically and (some) genealogically linked to Mongolians. Don't know where that fits in this conversation, but it does now.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: RiGS on Tue, 12 April 2011, 19:41:35
ALL I can say they are way hotter than German girls.
Personally I think Polish girls are the hottest in Europe.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: .XL on Tue, 12 April 2011, 19:42:06
Quote from: RiGS;329675
ALL I can say they are way hotter than German girls.
Personally I think Polish girls are the hottest in Europe.


 I've never seen a good looking Polish girl. Enlighten me...
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: keyboardlover on Tue, 12 April 2011, 19:43:00
Quote from: .XL;329674
I'll assume that was in Bucharest, and you didn't head out to the eastern border. Then you'd know what I mean.


Ok you can assume what you want. I spent like 2 days in Bucharest. 4 weeks in and around Brasov. 2 days in a hotel on top of Bucegi. Sooo beautiful.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d0/Moraru_ridge.jpg/800px-Moraru_ridge.jpg)

Find another country in Eastern Europe with that kind of beauty. I doubledogdareya!
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: RiGS on Tue, 12 April 2011, 19:44:35
Quote from: .XL;329676
I've never seen a good looking Polish girl. Enlighten me...


They are hot, and they smile all the time.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: .XL on Tue, 12 April 2011, 19:45:39
Quote from: keyboardlover;329677
Ok you can assume what you want. I spent like 2 days in Bucharest. 4 weeks in and around Brasov. 2 days in a hotel on top of Bucegi. Sooo beautiful.


The trip through Romania is still a running joke in my family. The roads were dirt for most of the trip through Romania, with towns every few miles. Each town had 2-5 lights in the whole town. The ****s would gather under the lights and pose.

I've never been to Transylvania. I'd love to go.

Whatever you do, don't go to Germany or England looking for pretty women though. You'll be looking forever...
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: keyboardlover on Tue, 12 April 2011, 19:46:29
I've personally met hot girls from both England and Germany, so I would say you are incorrect, sir. Again.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: BucklingSpring on Tue, 12 April 2011, 19:48:14
Quote from: .XL;329676
I've never seen a good looking Polish girl. Enlighten me...


I thought Nastassja Kinski was Polish, but she's German with Polish descent:
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_RIe9LnOphyw/TL0UmcdQBMI/AAAAAAAAE40/yvcEtYOREZ0/s1600/avedon+nastasia+kinski.jpg)
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: RiGS on Tue, 12 April 2011, 19:48:37
If you want to avoid *****es, then definitely don't go to Hungary.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: Fwiffo on Tue, 12 April 2011, 19:49:02
Hasn't this been posted here before?
(http://verybadfrog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Meanwhile-in-Poland.jpg)
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: keyboardlover on Tue, 12 April 2011, 19:49:07
I take it RiGS doesn't get much action...
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: .XL on Tue, 12 April 2011, 19:49:30
Quote from: keyboardlover;329683
I've personally met hot girls from both England and Germany, so I would say you are incorrect, sir. Again.


I'm playing the stereotype...sigh
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: .XL on Tue, 12 April 2011, 19:50:01
Quote from: Fwiffo;329686
Hasn't this been posted here before?
Show Image
(http://verybadfrog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Meanwhile-in-Poland.jpg)

So there are hot Polish girls...

I'll take the blonde one. And the one on the left.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: keyboardlover on Tue, 12 April 2011, 19:50:43
I already called dibs on the one on the right in a previous post. Just an FYI.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: .XL on Tue, 12 April 2011, 19:51:11
Quote from: keyboardlover;329692
I already called dibs on the one on the right in a previous post. Just an FYI.


That's fine, not interested in that one...
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: RiGS on Tue, 12 April 2011, 19:51:33
Quote from: keyboardlover;329683
I've personally met hot girls from both England and Germany, so I would say you are incorrect, sir. Again.


I spent a whole summer in Munich, and I didn't see any hot chicks there.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: keyboardlover on Tue, 12 April 2011, 19:51:41
Quote from: .XL;329693
That's fine, not interested in that one...


Yea, an atheist like you wouldn't be. Just playing the stereotype...

Quote from: RiGS;329694
I spent a whole summer in Munich, and I didn't see any hot chicks there.


I guess all the hot ones come to the U.S. as au pairs then...
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Post by: BucklingSpring on Tue, 12 April 2011, 19:52:58
I like where this thread is going.

Started on the wrong foot though.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: keyboardlover on Tue, 12 April 2011, 19:53:20
Me too! Moar hot chicks!

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Kjmb8zyeIEg/SGzWBCFe4UI/AAAAAAAACsg/NE5n-SyPVzc/s400/romanian-girl-02-500x378.jpg)
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: RiGS on Tue, 12 April 2011, 19:54:51
Now get back to boobs!
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: RiGS on Tue, 12 April 2011, 19:57:00
Quote from: keyboardlover;329697
Me too! Moar hot chicks!

Show Image
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Kjmb8zyeIEg/SGzWBCFe4UI/AAAAAAAACsg/NE5n-SyPVzc/s400/romanian-girl-02-500x378.jpg)


She is not hot!
There are all around like she in the bus station in Hungary.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: .XL on Tue, 12 April 2011, 19:57:30
Quote from: keyboardlover;329695
Yea, an atheist like you wouldn't be. Just playing the stereotype...


Huh, I've never heard that stereotype before. Is that frequently used in your church meetings?

By the way, I did two years of Bible study. That's what turned me into an atheist. It's all just so...silly (http://youtu.be/Ik0yz5Jo4Os).
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: .XL on Tue, 12 April 2011, 19:58:01
Quote from: rigs;329702
she is not hot!
There are all around like she in the bus station in hungary.


donotwantdonotwantdonotwant
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: BucklingSpring on Tue, 12 April 2011, 19:58:33
Quote from: RiGS;329699
Now get back to boobs!


In my humble opinion, the highest density of hot women in the world is in Brazil.

Top 25 Brazilian babes (http://www.plunderguide.com/top-25-brazilian-babes/)
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: RiGS on Tue, 12 April 2011, 19:58:38
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By the way, I did two years of Bible study. That's what turned me into an atheist. It's all just so...silly.
Hey don't say such things. You will end up in hell! :D
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: .XL on Tue, 12 April 2011, 19:59:35
Quote from: BucklingSpring;329706
In my humble opinion, the highest density of hot women in the world is in Brazil.


QFT. I want to go to Carnival...

Quote from: RiGS;329707
Hey don't say such things. You will end up in hell! :D


LOL I'll humor you then...all the fun people are there! And most importantly, /KL probably won't be!
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: keyboardlover on Tue, 12 April 2011, 20:04:45
As long as I'm not wherever you guys are, that's cool with me. I'll be chillin' with the Christian Romanian babes. =)

This one is worried that RO might lose the soccer match.

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Kjmb8zyeIEg/SGzWA3F6cqI/AAAAAAAACsI/maN_o5sHh4Y/s400/romanian_football_girl-500x570.jpg)
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: .XL on Tue, 12 April 2011, 20:07:13
Quote from: keyboardlover;329715
As long as I'm not wherever you guys are, that's cool with me. I'll be chillin' with the Christian Romanian babes. =)


If they look like THAT you can have all the girls you want. I'll stick with the ones I can already easily get...the Filipinos and the Koreans. But I do want a nice Ukrainian girl :( The amount of AIDS in that country scares me though.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: keyboardlover on Tue, 12 April 2011, 20:07:48
I wish you luck in finding ANY girl.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: .XL on Tue, 12 April 2011, 20:10:36
Quote from: keyboardlover;329718
I wish you luck in finding ANY girl.


LOL I don't have problems with that; if I ever do, I'll make sure you're the last person I seek out for advice!
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: keyboardlover on Tue, 12 April 2011, 20:11:20
So, to sum up this thread...

(http://officeforward.com/main/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/Cool-Story-Bro.jpg)
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: neo on Tue, 12 April 2011, 20:11:40
Quote from: .XL;329654
Okay, lets run with that. The majority of Chechnyans (from Chechnya) are Muslim. Got it. Now, do you think you would be able to tell the Chechen Muslims apart from a Russian, Eastern European, or Balkan person? I've been looking at pictures on Google and as far as I can tell, if they're not wearing their taqiyah and do not have the imam-sized beard, they look like Russians. One of the guys even looks a bit like me...

Should I start getting stopped at checkpoints now?


I don't see how this is relevant, but Chechens visually are VERY different from Russians. There are always exceptions of course (some of them aren't even Muslim, hehe) but most Chechens along with other people of Caucasus look distinctly different from Russians and other Slavic people.

But again, how is this relevant?

Are you saying there is no way to tell a Muslim from a non-Muslim? It turns out in reality it's quite easy to tell most of the time. For example, all 9/11 hijackers were carrying their Saudi Arabian, United Arab Emirates, etc. passports. I think someone with passport issued in Chechnya should be checked more vigorously than a six years old American girl. That's all.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: BucklingSpring on Tue, 12 April 2011, 20:12:02
Quote from: .XL;329709
QFT. I want to go to Carnival...


Well, beauty comes at a price. Rio and Sao Paulo are amongst the most dangerous cities in the world. – Be careful if you go.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: keyboardlover on Tue, 12 April 2011, 20:13:06
I am also interested in Brazil. The women are freaking GORGEOUS! Is the crime so bad that you discourage visiting?
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: .XL on Tue, 12 April 2011, 20:19:17
Quote from: neo;329727
I don't see how this is relevant, but Chechens visually are VERY different from Russians. There are always exceptions of course (some of them aren't even Muslim, hehe) but most Chechens along with other people of Caucasus look distinctly different from Russians and other Slavic people.

But again, how is this relevant?

Are you saying there is no way to tell a Muslim from a non-Muslim? It turns out in reality it's quite easy to tell most of the time. For example, all 9/11 hijackers were carrying their Saudi Arabian, United Arab Emirates, etc. passports. I think someone with passport issued in Chechnya should be checked more vigorously than a six years old American girl. That's all.


Are they even given passports? I'm tired of googling things...

I'm asking because you can't profile the whole on the acts of the few. Chechnyans, at least the ones I know, and Georgians, fit in pretty well in Greece. They don't look much different than the Russian or Ukrainian Greeks that live there. I'm sure if I was in Chechnya rollin' with the extremists I'd be able to tell, but I doubt they'd be dressing that way when they travel.

Should be stop whoever looks Chechnyan because of what some Chechnyans do? More importantly, should be stop all Arabs because of the acts of some extremist muslims? When we do stuff like that it ends up making those who normally wouldn't hate us hate us, and those who already do hate us have 'ammunition' to use against us.

This profiling just alienates people we need close to us. We want the moderate Muslims with us, because it makes us look better. It makes us more 'friendly' in the eyes of the moderate Middle Eastern countries. But we're America, and we don't give a flying **** about anyone 'cept us. Not saying that as an attack at YOU, that's just what seems to be the case. We need to be less alienating and more inviting, most moderate Muslims don't like the extremists (though I haven't heard many actually condemn their actions publicly) and inviting them to be our friends would help further our goals.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: RiGS on Tue, 12 April 2011, 20:23:21
I hope Ron Paul gets elected, then I will visit you guys.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: BucklingSpring on Tue, 12 April 2011, 20:24:31
Quote from: keyboardlover;329732
Is the crime so bad that you discourage visiting?


Don't go by yourself unless you are fluent in Portuguese and gifted for staying out of troubles. If you go with a group, stay in the pack.

You need to blend in. Try not to look like a "rich" tourist.

I learned a new word while I was there - "quicknappings"
And this is no power nap. Google it up.

You must go prepared and educated about local risks.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: keyboardlover on Tue, 12 April 2011, 20:29:46
Quote from: RiGS;329748
I hope Ron Paul gets elected, then I will visit you guys.


Actually, I am a mostly a fan of Ron Paul. However I find it strange that you like him, given your fascistic political leanings.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: RiGS on Tue, 12 April 2011, 20:30:42
Why is that strange? He wants to end the FED.

Also Alex Jones took many interviews with him on his daily radio show, he is a good guy.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: keyboardlover on Tue, 12 April 2011, 20:32:09
Quote from: BucklingSpring;329749
Don't go by yourself unless you are fluent in Portuguese and gifted for staying out of troubles. If you go with a group, stay in the pack.

You need to blend in. Try not to look like a "rich" tourist.

I learned a new word while I was there - "quicknappings"
And this is no power nap. Google it up.

You must go prepared and educated about local risks.


Thanks for the advice. Romanian is pretty similar to Portuguese so I could probably get away by speaking that in an emergency (I'm pretty proficient in it). I tend to be pretty good at blending for the most part. We'll see if I actually go...
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: RiGS on Tue, 12 April 2011, 20:35:05
I have Romanian friends, they prefer the Hungarian language when they speak with each other.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: .XL on Tue, 12 April 2011, 20:37:02
Quote from: keyboardlover;329755
Thanks for the advice. Romanian is pretty similar to Portuguese so I could probably get away by speaking that in an emergency (I'm pretty proficient in it). I tend to be pretty good at blending for the most part. We'll see if I actually go...


You're better off speaking English in that case...they'll look at you like you're crazy if you try and throw some Romanian at them.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: keyboardlover on Tue, 12 April 2011, 20:37:38
Quote from: RiGS;329756
I have Romanian friends, they prefer the Hungarian language when they speak with each other.


Are they Hungarian? If not, that's pretty weird. In Translyvania the Romanians complain how the Hungarians there don't learn Romanian; they just go around speaking Hungarian all the time. It's true; I noticed a LOT of people speaking Hungarian there.

Quote from: .XL
You're better off speaking English in that case...they'll look at you like you're crazy if you try and throw some Romanian at them.


I'd rather get weird looks than get quicknapped. At least if they think I'm Romanian they won't think I'm rich! Anyway, I'm used to getting looked at weird in foreign countries. Happened a lot in RO. I don't look like them. I'm too sexy.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: RiGS on Tue, 12 April 2011, 20:41:32
In Transylvania Hungarians exceed Romanians in everything, even in their language...
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: keyboardlover on Tue, 12 April 2011, 20:42:23
You're saying Hungarians are better at speaking Romanian then Romanians? That is surely not true.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: RiGS on Tue, 12 April 2011, 20:43:40
I'm saying Transylvanians are better at speaking Romanian. They have to exceed in school to blend in.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: keyboardlover on Tue, 12 April 2011, 20:47:20
...but "Transylvanians" can mean Romanians, Hungarians or Germans (Saxon lineage). Which are you referring to?
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: RiGS on Tue, 12 April 2011, 20:48:42
Hungarians.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: .XL on Tue, 12 April 2011, 20:50:53
Fuhgetaboudit. They're all the same, those eastern europeans.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: RiGS on Tue, 12 April 2011, 20:51:25
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However I find it strange that you like him, given your fascistic political leanings.


If I had fascistic leanings then I would vote for Obama.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: keyboardlover on Tue, 12 April 2011, 20:51:33
I guess it's possible that they "technically" speak the language better. But Romanian isn't a very technical language. In fact, some sentences make it sound like a little kid's made-up sing-song language.

It's an easy language to rhyme, which is partly why I like Romanian rap music.

Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: .XL on Tue, 12 April 2011, 20:52:55
Quote from: keyboardlover;329772
I guess it's possible that they "technically" speak the language better. But Romanian isn't a very technical language. In fact, some sentences make it sound like a little kid's made-up sing-song language.

It's an easy language to rhyme, which is partly why I like Romanian rap music.



I like Romanian house/trance. Edward Maya, Matthias, even Akcent, all live in Greece now though.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: RiGS on Tue, 12 April 2011, 20:56:03
LOL, 4 AM again.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: keyboardlover on Tue, 12 April 2011, 20:58:37
Must be a Hungarian vampire.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: neo on Tue, 12 April 2011, 21:02:10
Quote from: .XL;329744
Should be stop whoever looks Chechnyan because of what some Chechnyans do? More importantly, should be stop all Arabs because of the acts of some extremist muslims?

You seem to misunderstand the whole purpose of security checks at the airports. This is not a punishment. Whatever the reason someone is flagged for more vigorous check, he is NOT being accused of anything and he is NOT being punished for anything. In the absence of specific intelligence, the most efficient method of allocating inherently limited resources is to prioritize passengers according to ANY statistically significant characteristic. For example, based on numerous past incidents, and OPENLY MADE threats of future attacks, people who are Arabs and/or Muslims are much more likely to try to blow up or hijack the plane than people who are not Arabs and/or Muslims. This is a statistical fact, not an accusation of any particular Arab or Muslim.

I'll give you another example. If there was a murder and witnesses say the perpetrator was black, would it be okay for police to only detain for questioning black people found in the vicinity, or would you like the police to detain white people as well in order to avoid "racial profiling"? In our case, the future perpetrators themselves are openly threatening to attack us again, just as they did before. And the people saying this are not hiding the fact that they are Arabs and Muslims. Why the hell would we check everyone else equally? Because otherwise we would hurt the feelings of innocent Arabs and Muslims? How about the feelings of innocent blacks in my example? Yet you think in that case it's okay...
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: keyboardlover on Tue, 12 April 2011, 21:05:06
Quote from: .XL;329773
I like Romanian house/trance. Edward Maya, Matthias, even Akcent, all live in Greece now though.


Yea, this is a good one. When I heard it on the radio I immediately new it was Romanian.



You know what's the worst music ever? Speaking of gypsies, Manele!



Actually I much prefer traditional Romanian music:

Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: .XL on Tue, 12 April 2011, 21:18:05
Quote from: neo;329777
You seem to misunderstand the whole purpose of security checks at the airports. This is not a punishment. Whatever the reason someone is flagged for more vigorous check, he is NOT being accused of anything and he is NOT being punished for anything. In the absence of specific intelligence, the most efficient method of allocating inherently limited resources is to prioritize passengers according to ANY statistically significant characteristic. For example, based on numerous past incidents, and OPENLY MADE threats of future attacks, people who are Arabs and/or Muslims are much more likely to try to blow up or hijack the plane than people who are not Arabs and/or Muslims. This is a statistical fact, not an accusation of any particular Arab or Muslim.

I'll give you another example. If there was a murder and witnesses say the perpetrator was black, would it be okay for police to only detain for questioning black people found in the vicinity, or would you like the police to detain white people as well in order to avoid "racial profiling"? In our case, the future perpetrators themselves are openly threatening to attack us again, just as they did before. And the people saying this are not hiding the fact that they are Arabs and Muslims. Why the hell would we check everyone else equally? Because otherwise we would heart the feelings of innocent Arabs and Muslims? How about the feelings of innocent blacks in my example? Yet you think in that case it's okay...


It seems we've both misunderstood the other then. I was not talking specifically about racial profiling and making everyone feel equal except for my last post to you. My main issue is the fact that this is only security theater, and they have never stopped an actual terrorist from boarding a plane. It does not actually make anyone safer; it's a gross waste of money with nothing to show for it.

I went to Boston this past weekend. On the way up I left BWI at 655. At 6am in the security line I had to wait nearly an hour with maybe 6 or 7 security lanes open. They were putting many people through the scans; black, white, asian - the only Arab guy there walked right through the metal detector while I, a US citizen from birth, went through the scanner. I was escorting a Chinese exchange student with a passport from China who was sent through the metal detector while I had to go through the scanner. They're not targetting the statistically significant people or whatever you like to call them, they're targeting everyone.

On my way back, the same happened, except for the fact that the metal detector was not being used and EVERYONE was being sent through the scanner. A line of 5 people turned into a 15 minute wait. Why is that even necessary? This mother had her and her 12-ish year old daughter opt out because she 'didn't want any man looking at naked pictures' of her daughter. Personally, I think that's a bit silly, but at least she didn't videotape it (having your 6 year old daughter get a pat down just so you can videotape it is wrong, IMO).

I don't like the scanners. You may like them and think they're doing a fine job. Truth is they haven't changed anything except make lines longer and make people feel uncomfortable; the TSA haven't stopped any security threats except for soccer moms with tweezers in their bags.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: keyboardlover on Tue, 12 April 2011, 21:21:11
It's all a conspiracy. I blame George Bush.

(http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/100611/puppets/Arrested-Development_400.jpg)

Best Franklin scene from Arrested Development:

Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: neo on Tue, 12 April 2011, 21:29:22
Quote from: .XL;329784
It seems we've both misunderstood the other then. I was not talking specifically about racial profiling and making everyone feel equal except for my last post to you. My main issue is the fact that this is only security theater, and they have never stopped an actual terrorist from boarding a plane. It does not actually make anyone safer; it's a gross waste of money with nothing to show for it.

I went to Boston this past weekend. On the way up I left BWI at 655. At 6am in the security line I had to wait nearly an hour with maybe 6 or 7 security lanes open. They were putting many people through the scans; black, white, asian - the only Arab guy there walked right through the metal detector while I, a US citizen from birth, went through the scanner. I was escorting a Chinese exchange student with a passport from China who was sent through the metal detector while I had to go through the scanner. They're not targetting the statistically significant people or whatever you like to call them, they're targeting everyone.

On my way back, the same happened, except for the fact that the metal detector was not being used and EVERYONE was being sent through the scanner. A line of 5 people turned into a 15 minute wait. Why is that even necessary? This mother had her and her 12-ish year old daughter opt out because she 'didn't want any man looking at naked pictures' of her daughter. Personally, I think that's a bit silly, but at least she didn't videotape it (having your 6 year old daughter get a pat down just so you can videotape it is wrong, IMO).

I don't like the scanners. You may like them and think they're doing a fine job. Truth is they haven't changed anything except make lines longer and make people feel uncomfortable; the TSA haven't stopped any security threats except for soccer moms with tweezers in their bags.


I agree with you there. The TSA is grossly inefficient, one of the main reasons being - they are not allowed to use by far the most efficient tool available under the circumstances - racial profiling.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: bytemeavaj on Tue, 12 April 2011, 21:30:46
.XL is a conspiracy theorist and a moron.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: keyboardlover on Tue, 12 April 2011, 21:31:41
Yay, everyone made up! Now let's all enjoy a Hungarian donut.

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_ZrDxCsBKWhg/RtKPO9d_i0I/AAAAAAAAABk/w-eqLGfMCaU/s320/kurtos_kalacs.jpg)
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: Lpb45 on Tue, 12 April 2011, 21:34:13
Quote from: keyboardlover;329791
Yay, everyone made up! Now let's all enjoy a Hungarian donut.

Show Image
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_ZrDxCsBKWhg/RtKPO9d_i0I/AAAAAAAAABk/w-eqLGfMCaU/s320/kurtos_kalacs.jpg)


Thats actually from Romania, well it originated in Romania.  Its cooked over coals and sprinkled with sugar
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: keyboardlover on Tue, 12 April 2011, 21:37:09
According to wikipedia it's Hungary's oldest pastry (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kürtőskalács). And the Internet does NOT lie!

Edit: just read further where it says it originated in Transylvania. I got schooled!

Some people think this song originated in Romania - but the group is from Moldova! Those eastern Europeans have QUITE a few tricks up their sleeve!

Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: hate on Tue, 12 April 2011, 22:00:58
this thread and they way it went is just hilarious.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: .XL on Tue, 12 April 2011, 22:21:14
Quote from: neo;329787
I agree with you there. The TSA is grossly inefficient, one of the main reasons being - they are not allowed to use by far the most efficient tool available under the circumstances - racial profiling.


I really don't think it would benefit them at all. Especially not when anything brought into an airport from anywhere but the front door is barely ever checked. Not to mention that people can pass many different things through the scanners that metal detectors would find. Such as guns. Undercover TSA official walked right through the scanner multiple times with a gun in her bra and no one took notice.

Why can't we use something like the Israeli method? We would be able to cut excess jobs, refrain from buying more scanners, and have a more efficient way of spotting would-be wrongdoers. It's worked very well for them, and IIRC an article I had read mentioned Israeli airport security thought our methods were unnecessary. They were willing to come teach our TSA how to find the bad guys through observation, allowing the security process to be much more streamlined and much more effective. It may be easy to pass something through the scanner but not so easy to act normal for several hours before boarding your plane.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: neo on Tue, 12 April 2011, 22:33:52
Quote from: .XL;329804
I really don't think it would benefit them at all. Especially not when anything brought into an airport from anywhere but the front door is barely ever checked. Not to mention that people can pass many different things through the scanners that metal detectors would find. Such as guns. Undercover TSA official walked right through the scanner multiple times with a gun in her bra and no one took notice.

Why can't we use something like the Israeli method? We would be able to cut excess jobs, refrain from buying more scanners, and have a more efficient way of spotting would-be wrongdoers. It's worked very well for them, and IIRC an article I had read mentioned Israeli airport security thought our methods were unnecessary. They were willing to come teach our TSA how to find the bad guys through observation, allowing the security process to be much more streamlined and much more effective. It may be easy to pass something through the scanner but not so easy to act normal for several hours before boarding your plane.


But this is exactly what I was saying. You couldn't possibly make the Israeli system work if you were required to spend equal amount of resources checking every passenger.

I found an article on this subject: israel-racial-profiling (http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/in-israel-racial-profiling-doesn-t-warrant-debate-or-apologies-1.261075)
Quote
So why, I asked, are we still allowed to board airplanes at Ben-Gurion International Airport with bottles and tubes of liquid brought from home, while in Heathrow or JFK they confiscate our face cream and toothpaste?

"Oh, that's simple," he answered matter of factly. "We use racial profiling, they don't."
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: .XL on Tue, 12 April 2011, 22:42:54
Quote from: neo;329810
But this is exactly what I was saying. You couldn't possibly make the Israeli system work if you were required to spend equal amount of resources checking every passenger.

I found an article on this subject: israel-racial-profiling (http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/in-israel-racial-profiling-doesn-t-warrant-debate-or-apologies-1.261075)


It's a shame the US has many more crazies than just extremist Muslims that stick out like a sore thumb, or else we'd be able to have a very simple airport experience.

Your point on racial profiling makes sense and I do agree that it IS the best way, though not morally 'correct' from a 'racial equality' standpoint. In the lists  /KL posted earlier, the majority of 'terrorist' attacks taking place on US soil are the works of white Americans. You can't really racially profile them, it'd cost too much to hire enough people to follow every white person in every airport.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: BucklingSpring on Tue, 12 April 2011, 22:56:39
I found this refreshing... Glad not all americans think alike.
(http://www.ceada.com/Picture_087.jpg)

So young man, can I see your diapers?
(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=16853&stc=1&d=1302667165)
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: neo on Tue, 12 April 2011, 22:58:05
Quote from: .XL;329813
It's a shame the US has many more crazies than just extremist Muslims that stick out like a sore thumb, or else we'd be able to have a very simple airport experience.

Your point on racial profiling makes sense and I do agree that it IS the best way, though not morally 'correct' from a 'racial equality' standpoint. In the lists  /KL posted earlier, the majority of 'terrorist' attacks taking place on US soil are the works of white Americans. You can't really racially profile them, it'd cost too much to hire enough people to follow every white person in every airport.


But most white American terrorists were lone nutcases with specific grudge and specific target, historically not very interested in planes. The craziness at the airports started after 9/11, trying to defend against another attack like 9/11, where the terrorists are well organized Arab Muslims seeking to attack America in general and for some reason obsessed with planes. Racial profiling would work very well against such threat.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: .XL on Tue, 12 April 2011, 23:06:35
Quote from: neo;329817
But most white American terrorists were lone nutcases with specific grudge and specific target, historically not very interested in planes. The craziness at the airports started after 9/11, trying to defend against another attack like 9/11, where the terrorists are well organized Arab Muslims seeking to attack America in general and for some reason obsessed with planes. Racial profiling would work very well against such threat.


The plane thing worked well once, I doubt they'd try it again. The cases where a single nutcase gets on a plane and burns his balls off is really just one, maybe two, working together...it's not the concerted efforts of a whole group.

They're not stupid, they'd probably try something else. Hit another target. The biggest reason to get underwear bombers and other crazies on planes is to keep the population of the US scared so travel keeps decreasing and people are willing to allow things like full body scanners to come into play.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: neo on Tue, 12 April 2011, 23:13:32
Quote from: .XL;329818
The plane thing worked well once, I doubt they'd try it again. The cases where a single nutcase gets on a plane and burns his balls off is really just one, maybe two, working together...it's not the concerted efforts of a whole group.

They're not stupid, they'd probably try something else. Hit another target. The biggest reason to get underwear bombers and other crazies on planes is to keep the population of the US scared so travel keeps decreasing and people are willing to allow things like full body scanners to come into play.


I don't know, this particular type of terrorists have been obsessed with planes long before 9/11 and not only in US. Don't really understand why, but it's a fact.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: quadibloc on Wed, 13 April 2011, 04:49:59
Quote from: BucklingSpring;329816
I found this refreshing... Glad not all americans think alike.
Well, while most Americans don't want to cause needless trouble to people who just happen to have ancestry from a part of the world where Islam is the religion - most Americans also want to be as safe from terrorism as they thought they were before September 11, 2001 - and to pay no part of the cost of achieving that goal, whether in their liberties, their convenience, their comfort, or their taxes.

And I don't see what's wrong with that. Crime is the fault of criminals; terrorism is the fault of terrorists; and so it's entirely reasonable for any and all innocent people not to want to be bothered.

The trouble is, you can't always get what you want. If you could read people's minds and find the terrorists right away, there wouldn't be much terrorism.

Terrorist attacks on behalf of Islamist organizations against targets in the United States would be more difficult to carry out if there was nobody from that part of the world in Canada, the United States, or Mexico... and nobody from that part of the world could enter any of those countries.

I mean, I suppose they could still launch a missile at Florida from the Bahamas...

And it was because of Muslims being present within Denmark, for example, that the cartoons in a Danish newspaper got publicized, and became an issue that led to violence. (Many of the Islamic countries in which this violence happened haven't made condign examples of its participants.)

Sadly, China has a second-strike capability, and Russia has become a country far from being fully democratic.

Thus, Israel, Taiwan, South Korea, and Georgia are all subject to external threat to some extent. Pirates from Somalia raid lawful international commerce. Thus, it is still not the case that no one in their right mind would even begin to dare to launch an attack on one of the world's industrial democracies - and as long as this is the case, sadly, we will be distracted by having to deal with it from more positive and beneficial activities.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: Half-Saint on Wed, 13 April 2011, 06:05:33
In the past they used to scare people with the communist threat, now it's the terrorists. Fear is the best method of control and submission.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: J888www on Wed, 13 April 2011, 06:23:00
Quote from: keyboardlover;329766
...but "Transylvanians" can mean Romanians, Hungarians or Germans (Saxon lineage). Which are you referring to?


They're are like leeches on society.

Joking........plz read my Sig.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: keyboardlover on Wed, 13 April 2011, 06:24:57
Quote from: hate;329799
this thread and they way it went is just hilarious.


You're welcome! :D
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: RiGS on Wed, 13 April 2011, 07:26:29
Quote from: Half-Saint;329896
In the past they used to scare people with the communist threat, now it's the terrorists. Fear is the best method of control and submission.


Now it's the man made global warming scam.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: neo on Wed, 13 April 2011, 07:41:41
Quote from: Half-Saint;329896
In the past they used to scare people with the communist threat, now it's the terrorists. Fear is the best method of control and submission.


All true, but it doesn't change the fact that both the communist threat was, and the terrorist threat is very real.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: RiGS on Wed, 13 April 2011, 07:45:11
A small team of snipers could kill more people than those "Islam radical terrorists".
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: neo on Wed, 13 April 2011, 07:51:11
Quote from: RiGS;329917
A small team of snipers could kill more people than those "Islam radical terrorists".


A (relatively) small meteorite could kill every person on the planet. How is this relevant?
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: keyboardlover on Wed, 13 April 2011, 07:52:06
"Could" does not equal "would".

For the record, infowars.com is NOT a valid source of information. They're spreading more propaganda on there than any American news company.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: RiGS on Wed, 13 April 2011, 07:57:29
Sure, the only valid source of information is the Bible.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: BucklingSpring on Wed, 13 April 2011, 08:15:15
Earlier, neo said - Know your enemy.

That's fine, you need to understand who you're dealing with in order to establish the best defense strategy.

But profiling on ethnic, religious or geographical parameters is bound to have an unacceptable rate of false positive results. You're supposed to be smart. Well then, use this intelligence and go figure other ways.

You chose to endorse a legal system base on innocence until proven guilty. Deal with it. The profiling in question makes 3 quarter of the f-king world guilty until proven innocent.

It also provides an immense opportunity for racist expression. America along with many other countries still have a sh!t load of racists. They're wise enough now (for most of them) to hide their faith for sake of political correctness but will have no hesitation to point the foreigner if you ask them who they think did it (what ever that is)…

That's why I'm against profiling.

Close your eyes - (ahahaha you can't read anymore) Picture the ultimate soldier from the other camp. This guy is the meanest baddest villain the world ever created. Darth Vader himself would call for his mom if he had to fight him. But he was never been catched or at least credited for any crimes. His papers are clean, he's not carrying any weapon either. He's just crossing our border smiling with the worst intention possible and all the villain brain he has to carry his goal. You can frisk him as much as you want and even alien probe him. He is freaking clean.

As frustrating as it is, you can't stop him. It's called freedom.

Now open your eyes and look around. He's amongst us… Sweet dreams kids. LoL
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: RiGS on Wed, 13 April 2011, 08:21:36
Quote from: neo;329921
A (relatively) small meteorite could kill every person on the planet. How is this relevant?


Then it's time to build those underground bases.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: Peter on Wed, 13 April 2011, 08:41:30
Quote from: neo;329915
All true, but it doesn't change the fact that both the communist threat was, and the terrorist threat is very real.

How is that a 'fact' ?
You think Korean or Vietnamese commie-peasants wanted to invade the USA and therefore the yanks had to defend themselves ?
You think the USSR was actually capable of (or had the moral to) invading anything but small miniput countries after loosing 20-30 million citizens in the fight to crush Hitlers Bush-financed armies ?

Anyway, good thing the Russians didn't discover that Pentagon doesn't have any AA-defence ..
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: neo on Wed, 13 April 2011, 09:17:42
Quote from: Peter;329943
How is that a 'fact' ?
You think Korean or Vietnamese commie-peasants wanted to invade the USA and therefore the yanks had to defend themselves ?
You think the USSR was actually capable of (or had the moral to) invading anything but small miniput countries after loosing 20-30 million citizens in the fight to crush Hitlers Bush-financed armies ?

Anyway, good thing the Russians didn't discover that Pentagon doesn't have any AA-defence ..


Russians occupied half of Europe and the ONLY thing stopped them from occupying the whole Europe was US army.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: neo on Wed, 13 April 2011, 09:27:23
Quote from: ripster;329977
I thought it was Vodka?


Russians are the masters of Drunken Monkey Kung Fu style.
Vodka would never stop them.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: keyboardlover on Wed, 13 April 2011, 09:34:04
Quote from: RiGS;329927
Sure, the only valid source of information is the Bible.

If you think that's what Christians actually believe, that is also ignorant. Our roots are faith-based and no book, including the bible, dictates our beliefs. We don't believe in strict interpretation of the bible - that's about as dumb and dangerous as believing Alex Jones' conspiracy theories.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: Twitchy on Wed, 13 April 2011, 09:39:31
Quote from: neo;329974
Russians occupied half of Europe and the ONLY thing stopped them from occupying the whole Europe was US army.


The US fought that war on their own? My history teachers have a lot of answering to do! :D
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: neo on Wed, 13 April 2011, 10:23:01
Quote from: Twitchy;329994
The US fought that war on their own? My history teachers have a lot of answering to do! :D


I never said that.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: Twitchy on Wed, 13 April 2011, 10:31:37
You weren't talking about the cold war? Then please accept my apologies.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: neo on Wed, 13 April 2011, 10:51:22
Quote from: Twitchy;330023
You weren't talking about the cold war? Then please accept my apologies.


No, I wasn't talking about the cold war, I was talking about 1945.
And I never said they fought on their own.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: Ekaros on Wed, 13 April 2011, 13:27:27
Quote from: neo;330029
No, I wasn't talking about the cold war, I was talking about 1945.
And I never said they fought on their own.


I don't know didn't seem to be much help for us in WW2...
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: .XL on Wed, 13 April 2011, 13:32:11
Quote from: Ekaros;330100
I don't know didn't seem to be much help for us in WW2...


You expected the USA to fight in the Pacific theater and European theater and help Finland at the same time?
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: neo on Wed, 13 April 2011, 13:35:27
Quote from: Ekaros;330100
I don't know didn't seem to be much help for us in WW2...


All I said is that communist threat was real.
You don't agree with that?
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: kps on Wed, 13 April 2011, 14:24:56
Quote from: Ekaros;330100
I don't know didn't seem to be much help for us in WW2...


Incredible as it sounds, countries tend not to provide much wartime assistance to others fighting alongside their enemies against their allies.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: Ekaros on Wed, 13 April 2011, 14:57:31
Quote from: kps;330127
Incredible as it sounds, countries tend not to provide much wartime assistance to others fighting alongside their enemies against their allies.


So, USA helped the communism in Europe in WW2?
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: kps on Wed, 13 April 2011, 15:15:40
Quote from: Ekaros;330141
So, USA helped the communism in Europe in WW2?


On December 11, 1941, Germany, which had been at war with the Soviet Union for half a year, declared war on the United States, making the USA and USSR de facto allies against Germany.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: Fwiffo on Wed, 13 April 2011, 16:11:40
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cf/Teheran_conference-1943.jpg/500px-Teheran_conference-1943.jpg)
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: Half-Saint on Wed, 13 April 2011, 16:20:09
Off-topic galore...
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: BucklingSpring on Wed, 13 April 2011, 17:20:33
Quote from: Half-Saint;330174
Off-topic galore...


What else do you expect from masters of thread derailing? :-)
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: Ekaros on Wed, 13 April 2011, 17:24:51
Quote from: BucklingSpring;330206
What else do you expect from masters of thread derailing? :-)

(n: amount of messages in thread)
lim(n->infinity) Change of derail->1

Rule of geekhack.

Not sure, don't care to make analyze on average amount to derail and absolute amount needed to derail thread...
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: BucklingSpring on Wed, 13 April 2011, 17:49:43
Quote from: Ekaros;330208
(n: amount of messages in thread)
lim(n->infinity) Change of derail->1

Rule of geekhack.

Not sure, don't care to make analyze on average amount to derail and absolute amount needed to derail thread...


:-) Actually, I think this thread did pretty well. There is "significantly" more on-topic than off-topic posts.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: keyboardlover on Wed, 13 April 2011, 17:52:39
Quote from: Ekaros;330208

Not sure, don't care to make analyze on average amount to derail and absolute amount needed to derail thread...


It's actually pretty easy.

Hey look, hot chicks!

Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: Ekaros on Wed, 13 April 2011, 17:58:16
Quote from: keyboardlover;330229
It's actually pretty easy.

Hey look, hot chicks!



n:298

Only 12967 threads to go ;D
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: RiGS on Wed, 13 April 2011, 17:58:57
follow up added
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: keyboardlover on Wed, 13 April 2011, 18:08:08
I'm gonna climb over that anger wall of RiGS' one of these days.

And it's going to be glorious.





This is pretty much how the typical off topic arguments go on GeekHack:

Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: Daniel Beaver on Wed, 13 April 2011, 20:13:33
I got all the way to page ten of this thread before I finally gave up.

I think it should have ended with this:
Quote
If we've got limited resources to spend on security, we shouldn't be wasting them on security theater and expensive equipment that doesn't even work

The whole "TSA groping children" episode is overshadowed by a more fundamental problem: the costs of TSA vastly outweighs the benefits (http://polisci.osu.edu/faculty/jmueller/MID11TSM.PDF). Providing security for the public is one of the main functions of government, but it should be a sensible security policy.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: BucklingSpring on Wed, 13 April 2011, 20:14:22
Derail = "Aim for the bushes" 3p!c f@!1


Dwayne Johnson & Samuel L. Jackson jumping for an Oscar
Priceless
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: Oqsy on Wed, 13 April 2011, 20:22:41
Quote from: bytemeavaj;328943
Are you a complete moron? Do you realize Benjamin Franklin lived in the 1700s? Times change.

In this day and age, it is sad, but we need to be aware and protect our nation against terrorism. You're just someone that needs to whine about everything including undergoing a patdown.

Don't flatter yourself, you're not being picked out from the crowd because you're so good looking someone wants to feel you up.

Wow. Some things NEVER change.  Freedom and limited government still apply, 200+ years later. "Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it"; also an old quote, but still valid. Should we discount all scientific discoveries over a certain age because "times change"?

Lots of ignorant posts flying around this forum lately, but this one takes the cake.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: Input Nirvana on Wed, 13 April 2011, 21:34:47
I liked this thread better when you guys were comparing girls from different countries....

I'm going to Puerto Vallarta in May and Prague in July/Aug... I'll report back.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: woody on Thu, 14 April 2011, 04:46:14
Quote from: input nirvana;330342
I'm going to ... Prague in July/Aug...

You'll bump mostly in tourists. With cameras.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: prava on Thu, 14 April 2011, 07:09:46
Hi folks.
We live in a twisted world, no doubt. But just because we fortity the airports doesn't mean we are any more safe: on the contrary, we aren't, but we do get our rights flushed down the toilet.

In Spain we got ourselves our own 9-11: they ****ed us hard, in the center of the Nation: they blew us up. Nobody could have ever see any of that coming, NEVER. And you see, the thing that saddens me the most is that, to this day, we don't have a clue about who did it. Most of the people that were arrested have been released because there is just no ****ing evidence to support nothing. Who did it? How? Why? We will probably never know, ever.

It still gives me the creeps the fact that stuff disappeared and appeared while being into police custody: some of the explosive bags that didn't detonate that day were transported by police, to a police station. Well, a day after, there was an extra bag. Nobody knows who the **** it got there, who put it there..nothing.
Also, its worth noting that because they did it all wrong, we don't even know what kind of explosive was used in the action.

One could more or less say the same about 9-11, there are so many stuff that doesn't add up that you could be talking about it for weeks, but that ain't my intention as I know that the more you try to dig into ****, the more you smell it. Lets give some rest for those who died.

-----

Whats the point of all that rambling? We are not any safer. We put secutiry into the airports, they will blew up trains. We put security into the trains, they will blew up a bus, we....and so on. We can't fortity everything, we can't protect everyone...also, we need to take in mind how many people died from terrorist in the last decade. Now, compare it to car accidents, cancer, smoking, drinking...and whatever you want to. Yeah, I know, its ****ing different but the fact stays: we have a damn terrorist group here in Spain (ETA) and the ****ers just don't want to give up their weapons: but just because a part of the country lives in constant fear, and plenty of politicians need to have permanent personal security and armored vehicles doesn't mean we have to surrender our freedoms because, if we do, they win and, also, all those who died serving freedom will have died for nothing.

No, I wont give up any of my rights just because a ****er has a gun and bombs. We are civilized nations, with rights and duties that required blood to be spilled in order to be gained, and we don't give them up easily. No, because if we do docens of thousands will have died for nothing.

Terrorism needs to be stopped and prevented as much as possible...but not at the cost of the privacy and freedom of every living thing in thouse threatened countries.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: BucklingSpring on Thu, 14 April 2011, 08:35:47
Quote from: prava;330493
Terrorism needs to be stopped and prevented as much as possible...but not at the cost of the privacy and freedom of every living thing in thouse threatened countries.


If you read the whole thread, quite a few agree with you and even provided the same examples about the facts that we are not safer. I like images… I used a boxer, getting punched in the guts while protecting his face.

I totally agree with you, Terrorism needs to be stopped and prevented as much as possible but not at the cost of privacy and freedom. They are just a bunch of criminals and needed to be treated as such. Call it organized crime. It is a problem yes, but this is no war. Deploying pseudo wartime measures is excessive.

In most cases, terrorists don't have a hidden agenda. It's rarely done anonymous as the incident in Spain. Can we say the same about our beloved authorities? I'm no expert, so I'll just leave the question open.

I'd be curious to know how much information is collected and kept that has nothing to do with Terrorism or national security but done with the new and improved tools to fight terror. The Patriot Act is brazilion times more intrusive than frisking a little girl.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: neo on Thu, 14 April 2011, 09:24:03
Quote from: BucklingSpring;330510
I like images… I used a boxer, getting punched in the guts while protecting his face.


Of course tactics and placement of attacks would be different, but the identity and motivation of attackers remain the same, both in your example and in the war radical Islamists wage against us.

To paraphrase your example, we are the boxer who is trying to defend equally against the opponent and the referee (6 year old American girl). What if the referee would also try to hit me? I better spend equal amount of resources protecting from referee and the opponent...
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: speakeasy on Thu, 14 April 2011, 09:25:16
I found a video of keyboardlover and rigs

Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: RiGS on Thu, 14 April 2011, 09:28:38
Quote
The Patriot Act is brazilion times more intrusive than frisking a little girl.


The Federal Reserve Act is the worst.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: Lpb45 on Thu, 14 April 2011, 09:32:43
Quote from: ripster;330530
Hah, I forgot The Jesus was in that movie.

Here's me and PandaR.
Show Image
(http://www.moviecritic.com.au/userimages/user624_1155099753.gif)


You dont **** with the Jesus
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: RiGS on Thu, 14 April 2011, 09:40:45
Quote from: ripster;330536
Lol.  A Hungarian complaining about the Federal Reserve Act.

As if Hungary has a healthy economy.


(http://www.wpclipart.com/money/US_Currency/US_dollar_pyramid.png)

I'm against that a private bank controls the nation's money without any transparency.
Luckily the Dollar’s reserve currency role is drawing to an end.
Yes, the same **** happened here in Hungary as well.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: neo on Thu, 14 April 2011, 09:41:26
Quote from: ripster;330538
You used a bad word.

Against forum rules.


Which word? Jesus?
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: RiGS on Thu, 14 April 2011, 09:54:52
I don't care unless it backed with real value.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: BucklingSpring on Thu, 14 April 2011, 11:48:32
Quote from: neo;330526
To paraphrase your example, we are the boxer who is trying to defend equally against the opponent and the referee (6 year old American girl). What if the referee would also try to hit me? I better spend equal amount of resources protecting from referee and the opponent...


I'm sure if you were a boxer and the referee would "look" like an islamist, you would knock him first.

See... I'm starting to understand how you are thinking LoL.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: keyboardlover on Thu, 14 April 2011, 12:00:15
Quote from: RiGS;330563
I don't care unless it backed with real value.

Define "real value". And who assigns value anyway? Value is what we perceive something is worth. Hence, the shill bidding myth.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: RiGS on Thu, 14 April 2011, 12:05:17
I meant natural resources, or food.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: Fwiffo on Thu, 14 April 2011, 12:08:27
Goldbuggery now? I'm still not sure I follow the logic of tying the value of currency to that of an arbitrary commodity. Although I suppose "You shall not crucify mankind upon a cross of molybdenum" doesn't have quite the same ring.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: Daniel Beaver on Thu, 14 April 2011, 12:34:17
And now a monetary policy debate! Might as well start warming up my global warming spiel while I'm at it.

(http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/vv12/JackoTheDweeb/MichaelJacksonPopcorn.gif)
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: Fwiffo on Thu, 14 April 2011, 12:45:34
Quote from: RiGS;330658
I meant natural resources, or food.

Still trying to unload the excess canned goods from your Y2K bunker?
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: RiGS on Thu, 14 April 2011, 12:49:20
Sure, selling pre-Fukushima food is good business.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: RiGS on Thu, 14 April 2011, 12:51:03
You need one more post to become a senior troll!

Congrats! You made it!
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: keyboardlover on Thu, 14 April 2011, 13:09:53
RiGS is a senior troll and has only been a member for a few months. Huzzah?
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: keyboardlover on Thu, 14 April 2011, 17:27:31
Quote from: speakeasy;330527
I found a video of keyboardlover and rigs


I don't get it...
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: BucklingSpring on Thu, 14 April 2011, 20:21:58
Quote from: keyboardlover;330985
I don't get it...


I want to see it.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: Peter on Fri, 15 April 2011, 12:36:25
Quote from: prava;330493
Hi folks.


In Spain we got ourselves our own 9-11: they ****ed us hard, in the center of the Nation: they blew us up. Nobody could have ever see any of that coming, NEVER. And you see, the thing that saddens me the most is that, to this day, we don't have a clue about who did it. Most of the people that were arrested have been released because there is just no ****ing evidence to support nothing. Who did it? How? Why? We will probably never know, ever.

It still gives me the creeps the fact that stuff disappeared and appeared while being into police custody: some of the explosive bags that didn't detonate that day were transported by police, to a police station. Well, a day after, there was an extra bag. Nobody knows who the **** it got there, who put it there..nothing.

How the **** do you think the Americans are feeling ?
You can apparently fly around in a hijacked commercial plane for nearly 1 and a half hours, then crash it in to the frigging Pentagon !!
Without ONE single fighter-jet being scrambled ..

Anyway, the Spanish train-bombs weren't planted by Al-Cracker,
it was the ETA .. Your PM said so !!
And Spain does not have a history of certain elements within the government staging 'terrorist'-attacks and blaming them on (insert random freedom-lovers).. And neither does Italy btw (Bologna Train station bombing) .
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: RiGS on Fri, 15 April 2011, 12:59:52
Quote from: keyboardlover;330743

I'm gonna climb over that anger wall of RiGS' one of these days.

And it's going to be glorious.

RiGS is a senior troll and has only been a member for a few months. Huzzah?


Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: keyboardlover on Fri, 15 April 2011, 14:07:07
My taste in movie scenes is better.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: RiGS on Fri, 15 April 2011, 14:28:54
What about this one?

Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: keyboardlover on Fri, 15 April 2011, 15:04:01
I hope your movie taste isn't reflective of a violent personality. Pulp fiction is the better clip though.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: prava on Fri, 15 April 2011, 17:14:55
Quote from: Peter;331483
Anyway, the Spanish train-bombs weren't planted by Al-Cracker, it was the ETA .. Your PM said so !!


A correction: when 3-11 happened our elections were nearby. Now, if you take in mind that the president (Aznar) was the one that brought us to Iraq and Afghanistan, he stated that it was ETA the day after the attack because he knew that saying the truth would cause him the elections (all surveys showed them quite ahead of the competition days before the attack).
All in all that that lie was useless, as the truth came to the light and he lost the elections. I think nobody will argue with me if i say that the attack changed the result of a democratic election...which is something that scares the hell out of me.

So, it wasn't ETA. Take in mind ETA is a terrorist group that claims independence for the Basque region and thus they always confirm their attacks, yet they haven't on this one, because they like people to know its them who caused the mess.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: RiGS on Fri, 15 April 2011, 17:44:01
http://edition.cnn.com/2011/TRAVEL/04/15/tsa.screeners.complain/ (http://edition.cnn.com/2011/TRAVEL/04/15/tsa.screeners.complain/)
Quote
Arrogant complaining about airport security is one indicator Transportation Security Administration officers consider when looking for possible criminals and terrorists, CNN has learned exclusively. And, when combined with other behavioral indicators, it could result in a traveler facing additional scrutiny.

This is outrageous!

http://www.infowars.com/complaining-about-tsa-molestation-will-get-you-profiled-as-a-terrorist/ (http://www.infowars.com/complaining-about-tsa-molestation-will-get-you-profiled-as-a-terrorist/)
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: RiGS on Wed, 20 April 2011, 09:37:51


I haven't LOLed this hard in awhile.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: quadibloc on Wed, 20 April 2011, 11:13:36
Of course, airline security in the U.S. is criticized from certain portions of the Right as well as the Left. While the hawkish right is supportive, the Libertarian right is upset.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: Lanx on Wed, 20 April 2011, 14:53:59
what more can they do? every failure they have had to stop a bomber means more security.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: BucklingSpring on Wed, 20 April 2011, 20:34:02
Quote from: RiGS;331742
http://edition.cnn.com/2011/TRAVEL/04/15/tsa.screeners.complain/ (http://edition.cnn.com/2011/TRAVEL/04/15/tsa.screeners.complain/)

This is outrageous!


LoL you are easily outraged...

I wonder why acting like idiots in airport triggers additional scrutiny... Hummmmm
Seriously dude, be real. This is no post 9-11 practice. It's been there for ever.

Sometimes it's better to just shut up.
Btw, if you don't like one individual for some reason... You can politely ask to deal with another agent.

And here's the secret to get full blown scrutiny. Make sure you have extra time to catch your flight before you experiment.

Pass security then exit the secure zone and present yourself again to the security point.

I've done it once by mistake… You will get it all.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: RiGS on Wed, 20 April 2011, 20:37:20
I'd rather not fly.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: RiGS on Wed, 20 April 2011, 20:45:57
Mr. T hate flying as well.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: RiGS on Wed, 20 April 2011, 20:53:20
I might take a cruise trip.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: keyboardlover on Wed, 20 April 2011, 20:54:07
Or anywhere else for that matter.

Better off staying in Hungary. Worked out pretty well for the Hungarians that Vlad Țepeș didn't impale.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: BucklingSpring on Wed, 20 April 2011, 21:04:11
Quote from: ripster;334638
Speaking of Vlad - this is my favorite license plate EVAH!

 
Very funny, I'd love to see the rest of the car and/or how he pimped it.
(http://cdnimg.visualizeus.com/thumbs/03/c5/1964,chevrolet,front,impala,lowrider,righ-03c5da5f101f51de9f894fa0dca8b683_h.jpg)
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: audioave10 on Wed, 20 April 2011, 23:43:23
A 64 Impala...my first car. It cost me $395.00. I miss it.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: Peter on Thu, 21 April 2011, 08:04:52
@ PRAVA :
Did you not UNDERSTAND what I wrote ??

Besides, Spain is a now, after the sadly late death of El Caudillo, a KINGDOM .
The Kings name is Juan Carlos and he did a Hell of a job telling La Guardia Civil to go **** themselves !!

Anyway, you STILL haven't been told the truth, this was another false-flag operation, carried out by the fascist Gladio-terrorists !
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: RiGS on Wed, 27 April 2011, 17:55:54
In the video below, the former beauty queen who held the Miss America title in 2003, Susie Castillo, says a TSA “screener” fondled her vagina during an intrusive pat-down.
What a job!

[video=youtube;LmADZpqhKhQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmADZpqhKhQ[/video]
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: keyboardlover on Wed, 27 April 2011, 18:00:42
Was it consensual?
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: BucklingSpring on Wed, 27 April 2011, 20:02:52
Quote from: ripster;338298
Someone tell me if it's worth clicking on the video.

Live footage?  Re-enactment?

 
Live footage but pathetic. I don't hate you enough to recommend clicking on it.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: RiGS on Wed, 27 April 2011, 20:06:28
Lol, you even get along with Hamblet.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: keyboardlover on Wed, 27 April 2011, 20:09:33
Quote from: ripster;338386
I get along with everybody on the Internet.

This trackball DPI measurement data collecting thing is going along well.


Lol...Webwit sure seems to be fond of you lately (http://deskthority.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=282&start=30).
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: BucklingSpring on Wed, 27 April 2011, 20:21:50
Quote from: ripster;338386
I get along with everybody on the Internet.

This trackball DPI measurement data collecting thing is going along well.


Good for you. Btw if I hated you for real, even a little. I would have said go and click. Best live footage evah!

I just disagree with your approach. Turning off proprietary drivers/software doesn't ensure best results. The device defaults may be lower than optimum performance.
The Optical Chip in my Expert Mouse is rated at 800 DPI. I'll stay low until I get a hold of the DiamondEye(tm) specs. So far it seams to range from 800 to 1000dpi but I don't trust the sources enough to publish as "official" Kensington statement.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: Lanx on Wed, 27 April 2011, 23:52:42
Quote from: RiGS;338296
In the video below, the former beauty queen who held the Miss America title in 2003, Susie Castillo, says a TSA “screener” fondled her vagina during an intrusive pat-down.
What a job!

So sad, she's trying to stay relevant! horrible video don't click, so boring!
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: BucklingSpring on Thu, 28 April 2011, 09:31:19
Quote from: Lanx;338501
So sad, she's trying to stay relevant! horrible video don't click, so boring!


Extremely boring indeed.

But if what she is saying is true, she did get molested. I used to cross airport security more than 100 times per year for 5 years in a row after 9/11. I went thru this pat-down process over and over. Never, I say never, the security guy had to touch my genitals more than once.

If she file a formal complaint, the investigation will use the video recordings of the event and the ******* lady who did the pat-down will be reprimanded. She might have been fired already if multiple legit complaints where filed against her.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: keyboardlover on Thu, 28 April 2011, 10:59:45
I gotta start going to the airport more often. I'd get more guruishy handjobs than my Filco's switches!
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: BucklingSpring on Thu, 28 April 2011, 12:45:25
Quote from: keyboardlover;338669
I gotta start going to the airport more often. I'd get more guruishy handjobs than my Filco's switches!

If you come during the process - Then one of two things
1- You have been molested
2- You have some extreme PE (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Premature_ejaculation) problems
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: RiGS on Thu, 28 April 2011, 13:47:23
Lmao
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: BucklingSpring on Thu, 28 April 2011, 20:37:20
Quote from: RiGS;338763
Lmao

Don't laugh - Poor \KL either way ;-)
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: The Solutor on Thu, 28 April 2011, 20:45:28
Quote from: BucklingSpring;338741

2- You have some extreme PE (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Premature_ejaculation) problems


There was a tread "how fast are you" that can help...
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: RiGS on Sat, 11 February 2012, 15:07:35
[video=youtube;NCTSzJDCzT8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCTSzJDCzT8[/video]
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: Lanx on Sat, 11 February 2012, 18:50:33
10 years ago meter maids were universally hated, there's a show on reality tv i watched last year, prolly still around meter maids? or towed or something oh just googled, it's parking wars, they have 3, 10 minute segments on meter maids, towing guyings, and the place where you get your car out of the impound.
ppl can yell, threated, curse at meter maids, and all they can do is take it and say good day sir/mam. But if you even try 10% of that with a TSA agent freely groping you around, you get something harsh.
A TSA agent groped my netbook, he was like "why do you have 2 laptops?" and i was like cuz i like having 2? then he swabbed the netbook all over for explosives and he turned it on and i had to tell him my boot up password, (i wasn't allowed to type it in myself) which was also a "red flag" because why would someone put a password on their netbook? good lord.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: MyNameIsFinn on Wed, 07 March 2012, 19:11:02
... Thats it
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: glossywhite on Wed, 07 March 2012, 19:46:01
Hate is such a terrible thing. Never hate anyone, just love as much as possible :D
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: RiGS on Thu, 15 March 2012, 13:56:34
Toilet Security Administration, WTF is wrong with the Obama administration?

[video=youtube;lU3S-_K1gYs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=lU3S-_K1gYs#![/video]

Ron Paul 2012
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: sth on Thu, 15 March 2012, 13:58:26
Vote Ron Paul! End the tyranny!*



*if you're white. and a man.
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: RiGS on Thu, 15 March 2012, 14:27:12
Quote from: sth;546859
Vote Ron Paul! End the tyranny!*



*if you're white. and a man.

Do Black Americans consider TSA Pat-downs as a necessary evil?
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: sth on Thu, 15 March 2012, 14:30:45
Quote from: RiGS;546887
Do Black Americans consider TSA Pat-downs as a necessary?

What's your point?
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: RiGS on Thu, 15 March 2012, 14:33:42
Quote from: ripster;546861
BTW who IS Ron Paul?

And why does he grope 6 year old girls?

Oh wait, he's a MD.


He is the Champion of the Constitution and Defender of Liberty since 1963. Who is Obama, is he even American?
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: sth on Thu, 15 March 2012, 14:35:29
Quote from: RiGS;546896
He is a Champion of the Constitution and Defender of Liberty since 1963.

Careful! Your buzzword meter is in the red!
Title: 6 year old girl groped by TSA
Post by: RiGS on Thu, 15 March 2012, 15:06:40
Sure, we have. It prevents our soil from GMO contamination.