what kind of mousepad is that anyways? hard or soft? I hear that soft are better so your feet dont wear down and they have better tracking, but arent as smooth. The new Kai 3G is the smoothest of the soft mousepads though and also on a whole new level for soft pads from what i have heard. I am really looking forward to it getting here!
I haven't used a mousepad since optical mice came out...
I've got a Razer Abyssus in the mail though, and I'd love to try out of the Grow Up Japan mousepads that a bunch of people here seem to like, but all of the soft pads on their site are out of stock.
If I'm not mistaken they are planning on revision 2s to come out sometime mid-month or so.
i'm a low sense gamer
Thanks, confirmed via google, good info to know. Almost bought a Steelseries QcK mini :)
The whole "Gaming mouse pad" thing's a big ripoff. There really isn't much difference between those "Gaming" mouse pads and any old fabric mouse pad they give you for free at a business expo.
Super XXL FTW!!!!
Quote from: Microsoft WindowsThe whole "Gaming mouse pad" thing's a big ripoff. There really isn't much difference between those "Gaming" mouse pads and any old fabric mouse pad they give you for free at a business expo.Like you would know, you can't game using Windows 3.1...
I still can't get over Geekhackers using that open net drawer liner to hold their keyboards - So Ghetto! This you just shake off the crumbs and wipe off the spooge with a sponge.
Hellz yeah! I agree with ripster
The whole "Gaming mouse pad" thing's a big ripoff. There really isn't much difference between those "Gaming" mouse pads and any old fabric mouse pad they give you for free at a business expo.
The whole "Gaming mouse pad" thing's a big ripoff. There really isn't much difference between those "Gaming" mouse pads and any old fabric mouse pad they give you for free at a business expo.
This is not necessarily the case. Although I have no concrete empirical evidence to back up my assertion, I can say that after experimenting with different surfaces over several days, my current mousepad significantly improves my accuracy, both while gaming and doing more menial work inside the OS's GUI. Using the Goliathus, I immediately noticed significantly better vertical tracking than using other surfaces... keep in mind mine is rotated 90 degrees, so that would translate to better horizontal tracking for most people.
That aside, a regular old cloth lined mousepad will serve 99% of people well, but the nice thing about gaming pads is you have options. As to whether the performance justifies the price, that's subjective.
The whole "Gaming mouse pad" thing's a big ripoff. There really isn't much difference between those "Gaming" mouse pads and any old fabric mouse pad they give you for free at a business expo.
MOUSEPADS? wth
what's next? golden usb cable?
ohh wait...Show Image(http://www.pcwizkid.co.uk/images/azona%20usb%20a%20male%20to%20mini%205%20pin.jpg)
if you can sell it, somebody will buy it (at least make a nice package)
by putting the word "gamer" on something, it becomes gold
we are talking about what we put under the mouse rigth?
maybe am confused
we are talking about what we put under the mouse rigth?
maybe am confused
is there any forum for: 'surfaces' for mouses?
anyway, buy what you want, is not my money.
is there any forum for: 'surfaces' for mouses?
anyway, buy what you want, is not my money.
No but you can go to any hardware enthusiast forum and find threads similar to this one. At the end of the day this is a fourm with people who own $250 keyboards. I think that it's pretty funny to see these very same people raging on a $40 mousepad. I couldn't justify spending that kind of money on either.
On a side note, you would think that on a forum dedicated to keyboards that the posters would be using capitalization and punctuation.
Justifiable price or not, mousepads provide different friction options versus wooden tables.
I use a SteelSeries 9HD. I used to use a SteelSeries S&S, the 9HD is like the upgraded version of that with a much better grip so it never slides.
I've used all the Razer offerings, the PureTrak Stealth(best cloth pad imo along with the PureTrak Talent but it's too big) and the SteelSeries QcK.
Best glide for me, very thin profile, never moves when I'm using it and it's just big enough.
well i just tried out the Artisan Kai 3G Hard and i think it is ok. I really love my 9HD though, oh my this thing is just everything i ever wanted in a mouse pad!
Going to do a review over the 2 pads tomorrow on OCN if anyone is interested. :D
I still think you're all crazy :P Abyssus arrived today and it works just fine on my wooden desk.
That said, I still plan on buying the new edition of the Artisan Hien Samurai mousepads when they eventually come out just to make sure.
1) Mouse
2) Mousepad
3) Headset
4) Monitor
5) Keyboard
I think you are all crazy about keyboards. Dont get me wrong I love mechanical keyboards, but 1 is enough :D most of you have like 10 different kinds
Im the same way you are just with mousepads and mice
Monitor in at number 4? Pretty outrageous stuff tbh.
What games do you play out of interest?
Yeah, mine would be like this:
1) Mouse
1) Mousepad
1) Headphones
1) Monitor
1) Keyboard
My requirements are probably easy to prioritize.
1) Video Card: I'd say first and foremost for gaming, a video card. If you can't run the game, there's nothing doing.
2) Mouse: If your mouse isn't capable of moving as quickly as you can, it's your next bottleneck, and for most competitive gaming, a mouse is required and is one of your most important tools to play the game.
3) Mouse Pad: If you could benefit from a mouse, you can benefit from a pad. It changes and further allows you to tweak the feel of your favorite mouse.
4)Headphones: Despite having a headphone fetish, headphones come dead last because most often users cannot benefit from them. They don't hear things correctly or listen correctly. This is so often the case that there's actually a market for "gaming headsets", which often times are just garbage with a mic... and people are so bad at listening they actually think these devices are good.
Some of you may notice that the keyboard isn't on the list. It doesn't fit in anywhere unless you have a keyboard that has issues with the cluster of keys you use. Other than that, it's just a feel thing.
Well, I guess it depends on the games. CS will run on virtually any video card and you definitely need to have a quality pair of headphones (and know how sound works) otherwise you'll be dead really quickly :D
Well, I guess it depends on the games. CS will run on virtually any video card and you definitely need to have a quality pair of headphones (and know how sound works) otherwise you'll be dead really quickly :D
Thanks to this forum, I have spent entirely too much money on computer inputs. Just bought the Artisan Kai Hien off Amazon.
linky (http://www.amazon.com/s?ie=UTF8&search-alias=electronics&field-manufacturer=Grow%20Up%20Japan) for others who want these Samurai mousepads...
Oh, and I accessorized, too. Mionix Naos. FTW.
I should consider one of these sometime. I should read reviews first, of course. =)
Thanks to this forum, I have spent entirely too much money on computer inputs. Just bought the Artisan Kai Hien off Amazon.
linky (http://www.amazon.com/s?ie=UTF8&search-alias=electronics&field-manufacturer=Grow%20Up%20Japan) for others who want these Samurai mousepads...
Oh, and I accessorized, too. Mionix Naos. FTW.
GUP is selling evo-g mouse bungees and weights as their own products?? lol
They might use the same manufacturers for both. Lots of japanese/korean companies do this. By this I mean have many manufacturers that make many different things all sold under the same brand or another company brand.
I have the mouse bungee, as in, the actual mouse bungee. I love it. It'd do a lot better if I could position it more freely though. It's a natural mate with my mouse, but it hates my desk.
I'm not sure I really get the point of buying a mouse bungee...to take the cable off the desk to eliminate drag and risk of snagging? Or is it good for a small desk where the cable runs over/underneath the keyboard?
I'm not sure I really get the point of buying a mouse bungee...to take the cable off the desk to eliminate drag and risk of snagging? Or is it good for a small desk where the cable runs over/underneath the keyboard?
the original mouse bungee site seems dead long ago, I can only find them on ebay now...oh well there is always the duct tape.
billmelater. :)
My girlfriend works for them. Interesting group, it'd be nice to work for them. Though I wouldn't want to sign up for billmelater the people that work there are great :p
I have the evo-g mouse weight at home, just so i would stop wearing down my cord on the edge of my desk. I use ghetto bungees at work using big paper clip things.
I dunno if ripster is fascinated with them or not.
And "ah, I see" to the latter part of your post
This (http://geekhack.org/showpost.php?p=289874&postcount=123) is what I'm referring to. It's actually pretty slick, I'd steal the idea if my desk wasn't too thick.
My requirements are probably easy to prioritize.
1) Video Card: I'd say first and foremost for gaming, a video card. If you can't run the game, there's nothing doing.
2) Mouse: If your mouse isn't capable of moving as quickly as you can, it's your next bottleneck, and for most competitive gaming, a mouse is required and is one of your most important tools to play the game.
3) Mouse Pad: If you could benefit from a mouse, you can benefit from a pad. It changes and further allows you to tweak the feel of your favorite mouse.
4)Headphones: Despite having a headphone fetish, headphones come dead last because most often users cannot benefit from them. They don't hear things correctly or listen correctly. This is so often the case that there's actually a market for "gaming headsets", which often times are just garbage with a mic... and people are so bad at listening they actually think these devices are good.
Some of you may notice that the keyboard isn't on the list. It doesn't fit in anywhere unless you have a keyboard that has issues with the cluster of keys you use. Other than that, it's just a feel thing.
When it comes to mousepads, not a single one of those generic $5 ones are big enough so the size difference alone is a big deal for me.
im thinking of buying a Razer Ironclad...who's got one?
My brother ordered a razor scarab, it should be coming today or tomorrow so I'll let you know. He did some research and found the scarab is the best one of the razor hardmats
the scarab is $35.. why not just get a 4HD for $20?
Why get any razer product (other than deathadder/imperator)? They're either overpriced, not as good, or A rebrand that costs more. My brother likes razer (he doesn't want to buy stuff from other companies unless he has no other option), so he sticks with them no matter what. I'm slowly trying to offload what's left of my razer products and try out new brands, but he maintAins razer is the bet. And they are...at marketing.
And thAt, my friend, is why my brother is buying a $39.99 mousepad when he could get arguAbly the best hardhat (mionix props, I think it's called) for $25. Then again, he also makes so much money. He's a hustler...he trades stuff he has for better stuff, then sells the better stuff for more money than it's worth :p
The best mouse between the two was the logitech G5. I just wish there was a proper successor.
an old wooden table is the best mousepad
Just played around with my brother's Razer Scarab...it's pretty awesome. Very slick, looks strong, and comes with it's own carrying case.
But I have to say...I'm quite impressed by the Artisan Hien, next mouse pad I get is going to be an Artisan Kai g3 Hien Hard mat!
I wish they can make a smaller version and cut the price in half. something like the 4HD's size would be perfect.
For which type of mousepad?
If you want a great hard mousepad, get that mionix propus or w/e it's called. Supposedly best hard mousepad on the market. The artisan kai g3 hien has a value edition that costs $17 (that's the one I got), it's quite good.
a mini-Scarab is what I want.
2/3 of its size, throw out the carrying case nonsense, and voila! perfect!
It exist... its called steelseries 4hd
a mini-Scarab is what I want.
2/3 of its size, throw out the carrying case nonsense, and voila! perfect!
Not exactly sure why they say glass coating because it sounds like something sprayed on. But from what I read that some have translated it apparently uses glass beads or something to that nature. It's not a sheet of glass like the icemat or magna.
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The only other mousepad that looks remotely like the scarab is the artisan shiden (http://www.gup.co.jp/artisan/cloth_ov.html). Seems like the shiden is using a medium middle layer not a soft nor hard unless they haven't updated their site. Though it's not plastic it's cloth but it apparently it has a glass coating on it.
Not exactly sure why they say glass coating because it sounds like something sprayed on. But from what I read that some have translated it apparently uses glass beads or something to that nature. It's not a sheet of glass like the icemat or magna.
This mousepad indeed sounds interesting. I wonder how durable the glass coating is going to be ...
Artisan Kai 3G is not up to the mark, I expected much more from it. You can get more reviews from the following link
http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1994230
Has anyone compared how well the value editions compare to the regular artisan pads?
Artisan Kai 3G is not up to the mark, I expected much more from it. You can get more reviews from the following link
http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1994230
Few questions:
- Do your mouse have teflon feet?
- Do you press your mouse down hard, or perform fast slashing motions across the pad?
Anyone here experiencing any problems when using a Logitech G5 with KAI g3.HIEN?
The brief period I used my old G5 on it, no, didn't experience any problems whatsoever. Mind explaining what problems you're having with it?
Razer Destructor.
Low profile, lot of surface and very good mouse response.
Really pleased with it.
I have the Razer megasoma. It is awesome.
Got my HD9 for free, can't say I like how big it is but its smooth with my Xai so I approve.
You can get the smaller 4HD. Funny that I found the 9HD to be too small as I need to cross it almost 1.5X to do a 360 degree turn.
I've been partial to I'm partial to Artisan's (http://www.gup.co.jp/artisan/cloth_ov.html) gaming mouse pads ever since I tried a HIEN. I'm currently using a SHIDEN and have been very happy with its glide characteristics.
Are there any extremely low friction mouse pads you guys can reccomend? I think I need a fairly large pad that operates butter smooth. Something I can move my mouse on with zero effort. I find that with a heavy mouse like the lachesis, you end up with too much starting force required to move a mouse in a given direction, and as such, you end up moving more than you wanted to... so a pad with the least amount of friction is preferable, and if I understand it correctly the texture on the ratzpadz provides this, but I'm hoping other options exist.
Any suggestions?
Mind being more specific, if possible?
You have issues with static friction or Stiction. The amount of initial force required to initiate movement is high and forces you to exert a lot of energy causing you to overshoot and creating excess kinetic energy. You should check out esreality they have a lot of threads on mousepads with your desired lack of friction though many will suggest things like the icemat i-2 and whatnot. Not sure if your a fan of glass mousepad if not there's also func pads and many others but your not gonna get a lot of ratpadz fans over there, if your searching for hard pads but there's a few cloth pads with similar characteristics not as close to hard pads but similar enough to be used. But then again it depends on your sensitivity if your low or high and want a smaller or larger pad.
Yeah the smoother a mousepad the more surface area it creates with the mousefeet while a textured mousepad has less surface area with the mousefeet.
Are there any extremely low friction mouse pads you guys can reccomend? I think I need a fairly large pad that operates butter smooth.I tested quite a few cloth mousepads a while ago and posted comments on [H]ard|Forum, this thread:
-------------------------------------------------------The Roccat Taito is fast and slick, and there is a XL version available. Mionix Alioth is also very fast and slick, I think faster than the Taito but I never got to test them side by side. However the Alioths I had were a big disappointment as they wouldn't lie flat.
Glide resistance ranking by mouse
-------------------------------------------------------
I've tried to figure out an order according to how fast each pad feels, but the mouse feet make too much difference to the overall order to make a definitive list, so I made a list of slowest to fastest for each mouse. If comparing the mouse feet: the Imperator has exceptional fast glide, very slick teflon feet with rounded edges. TactX and Radon are quite similar, nothing special about the feet on either mouse and just OK for gaming mice. The LS1 is a cheap mouse and the quality of the feet is poor (high friction)
Razer Imperator
--- sluggish ---
Ikea Galant desktop
--- average & comfortable ---
Sargas, Ground Level
Mantis Control, Cerro
--- fast & comfortable ---
C1, Talent
Taito
--- very fast ---
Qpad
Exposure (hard surface)
I've been gaming for 3 month with SS Xai + 9HD and I'm about to go back to MX510 + XTRACK clothe pad... back to basics
Basics? of what? Your still using a mouse and a mousepad.
Your going to downgrade from a superior mouse to a mouse which maybe if you said MX500(ADNS-A2020 like the MX300) I might have been like well "okay". If your just wanting to go back to cloth then go back to cloth. Ignore the people who say the xai can't be used on cloth, it can maybe not at 100% like on hard pads but certainly more then enough tracking capacity. Unless your a palm grip user and you don't like the xai for the fact it's not enough palm grip for your use.
If it's because you've been using 800DPI the entire time with the 510. Then set the Xai to 810DPI(Xai works on 90DPI stepping) and fix your sensitivity for the extra 10DPI if you like to(Sensitivity * DPI/newDPI)(ex: 2.25*800/810 = 2.222222222222222).
roccat taito (i love it)
steelseries 5L
i prefer the roccat taito, not expensive, very good quality. mousefeet wont worn out in years. best thing could ever happen to my wallet.
I just got a Steelseries QcK Mass and so far I like it. I came from a random crappy mouse pad, so not much to compare, but I think it is doing a good job.
Just switched back to my ancient 5L from a QcK Heavy. Turns out it just can't beat the 5L.
It is getting rather old now though so it needs a replacement, problem is I can't find it anywhere. How do the 5C and 9HD series pads compare to the 5L? Are there any other brands that have pads similar to the 5L?
I'm too lazy to read the whole thread, but has anyone mentioned CS Hyde's C4 Ngen mousepads? This is THE BEST super slick mousing surface I've found, and they sell it in a sheet form so you can cut it to fit on top of your current pad (if you want).
http://www.cshyde.com/c4web/C4Ngen.htm (http://www.cshyde.com/c4web/C4Ngen.htm)
they don't have one big enough for me.
I have mostly used Surface 1030 mats for the last 7 years or so (last one was a model called 1030 archetype that was twice as good as the normal ones!), but now im using a Qpad heaton XXL thats the best ive used so far. Comes in smaller sizes too if you want. Only drawback is that i have to have heatons name on it. I have always been a quake player, so cs is the enemy game ;) Then i have a large, thick steelseries cloth mat thats good for putting the keyboard on and not much else ^^.
I currently use a PureTrak Deluxe; it's super-nice, but getting old, so I'm in the market for a new one. I was thinking an Artisan. How're those?
Optic mice work perfectly on my plain wooden table. Though after a few years of doing it like that, I ended up buying a Steelseries Qck+. The surface is smoother than the table, and the drag a bit heavier. I like both.
The product names these companies come up with to describe a simple mousepad are rather amusing.
Not all "gaming" mousepads are gimmicks, some are but some have proven to be their worth and for some many times over the years. Depending on which you have it can change the way your mouse feels. Some mice even have improved tracking depending on the surface. And just because they are labeled "gaming" doesn't mean it's gaming only, some have mentioned better mouse usage in an office setting as well or regular desktop work compared to no or previous mousepad usage.
Plus different surfaces produce different results. Some like hard pads(plastic, metal, glass etc.etc.) and some like soft pads(cloth, coated cloth, smooth, rough etc.etc.). And also different sensitivities cater to different pads. It's not simply high sens - small pad or low sens - larger pad but different surfaces assist in the specific sensitivity.
In a way it's just like mouse feet some people find it ridiculous when they find out people change the mouse feet. But like a mousepad they too wear out and over time change the feeling of the mouse and how it handles movements.
As for the razer and steel pads well they are generally favorable. QcK is quite popular but sometimes recommended too much from some of the fanboys. Goliathus is also quite popular and seems to have kept a good reputation like the other razer cloth pads before like the mantis. But there's hundreds of other brands out there and whatnot plus not all pads are the same.
Like higher quality keyboards on this forum. Some spend just as much money on the different mousepads. Like before some are gimmicks and some are that much worth it though it depends on the user i.e. softer pad or harder pad.
This one is large enough to double as a picnic blanket:
Item Name: C4-NGen04 GIANT
Item Number: C4-NGen Pad 20" x 36"
Seriously, this PTFE material in sheet form is the cat's meow!
I've been using it for years and it is awesome... Mazora is in for a treat.
I've been using the Icemat 2nd Edition/Steelseries I-2 for 6-7 years now and it is still alive and kickin. I've heard that mice feet get worn faster when on glass pads than fabric pads, but I've never replaced my first mousefeet for my mouse and used it for 6 years, until I replaced it with the 2nd gen MX518. The only downside to glass pads are that laser mice do not work well or at all with them.
What the?! No way!! I used a Razer Mamba and it went all crazy on my black icemat.. Hmm I guess I shall give lasers another go. Thanks for the correction!!
What the?! No way!! I used a Razer Mamba and it went all crazy on my black icemat.. Hmm I guess I shall give lasers another go. Thanks for the correction!!I actually got a white I-2 today, both my G9x and G5 track perfectly fine on it. I can see how my Mamba does on it as well if you'd like.
i have run just about every SteelSeries pad out there i stuck with the SX for my Ikari Laser and the 9HD for my Xai. though i let my Xai go and sold the 9HD with it. My I2 always felt to gritty and i let it go when i go my SX. I believe the S&S SP and SX are all good. though the backing on the S&S wouldnt allow the mat to stay put on some surfaces and the SP surface mad some lasers go crazy (they fixed the texture on the 9HD). One of my friends wont go without an I2 i believe he likes the feel and the tracking of the glass.I am loving the I-2 so far and I'd say it is my new favourite pad.
I am loving the I-2 so far and I'd say it is my new favourite pad.i actually have one im willing to sell... as im thinning my mouse pad collection as they are little use for my new found love of trackballs
The SX does look interesting though, planning on adding one to my collection sooner or later.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/SteelSeries-Surface-QcK-Mass-PC/dp/B001FB56AW/ref=sr_1_5?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1311964287&sr=1-5I don't quite know what kind of mat the Mass is, but people seem to recommend the QcK Heavy over it.
I need a new mousepad, don't need to start a new thread if you guys can answer - is the Steelseries QCK Mass any good? I'm from the UK and I don't want to spend money on shipping, and I'd like to keep it cheap. The Razer Sphex I was using sucks, as it creased and the glue stopped being sticky.
I looked at the heavy, but it's simply too big for me to fit my Blackwidow as well as it onto my desk. I think all of the Qck range are the same, just with different sizes, so if the Qck heavy is recommended then I can't see why this wouldn't be.if i remember correctly the mass is also thicker
Glad this thread still has activity. :)i have a SP that im trying to sell. have used it previously with a MX1100.
I'm considering a Steelseries 4HD/9HD for my MX510. Anyone out there w/ the same (or similar) setup that can offer some opinions?
The whole "Gaming mouse pad" thing's a big ripoff. There really isn't much difference between those "Gaming" mouse pads and any old fabric mouse pad they give you for free at a business expo.
Baking paper? O_omy guess wax paper. possibly legit would wear for sure though.
Baking paper? O_o
my guess wax paper. possibly legit would wear for sure though.
Technically parchment paper, which makes sense - its basically VERY thin paper, covered in a thin coat of silicone.
OK guys, I use a Logitech G500 and I currently have a Qck Mini but I want a new mousepad. I want something that's going to be good for my mouse but I also want something twice the size of my Mini and something a bit thicker if possible. Any ideas?
Oops. For whatever reason I didn't see those replies.
I don't know if I've said so yet in this thread, but I've actually found a mouse pad I like. it has the least static friction of any mouse pad I've used and it's so slick it's off-putting to people who aren't used to it.
Behold, the Razer Scarab (http://store.razerzone.com/store/razerusa/en_US/pd/productID.222969200/categoryId.35208900). At 39.99, a daunting investment, but having been noted as the slickest pad available, and seeing it hasn't worn out insanely quickly, I can easily recommend this.
To this point, I have noticed no signs of wear and tear, and I've had it since May 27th, 2011. It's holding up brilliantly for a hard pad, especially since I don't play on terribly high sensitivity so there's a lot of movement on the pad. I will say the feet on my lachesis are very small so that may reduce the amount of wear and tear that actually occurs, but I guess that makes it a good combo. The mouse reduces wear and tracks brilliantly, and the pad reduces static friction to the lowest I've ever used. A great combo.
Now, if I could figure out why in the world my mouse keeps dying on occasion I'd be set! I wish there was a better mouse for lefties, but I hate the deathadder and the new logitech mouse isn't that great. I should get a sensei and try that, I suppose.
QCK MASS or QCK HEAVY+1 qck mass!
CSHyde still sells the best mousing surfaces without marketing hype or silly naming schemes.
So few have figured it out yet.
I pair the Extended Life PTFE discs on the bottom of my mouse along with the C4NGEN mousing surface; it's silent.
http://www.cshyde.com/c4web/home.htm
"We have three types of C4 available: C4 Ngen® with foam backing; the super thin CX4 NGen04 with repositionable black silicone backing, and the adhesive-backed C4 Ngen® Classic."
You're right, the only difference are the types of backing and size; the surface is the same.
I like the NGen04 - it's just the super slick mousing surface without the foam backing of a standard mousepad. The silicone backing keeps it from sliding around, but you can still peel it up and reposition it. You can get the NGen04 in a "GIANT" 20" x 36" size to cover your entire desk, or smaller sizes that can be cut with a pair of scissors. I had this old 3M mousepad with an integrated gell wrist rest that I was fond of, but the surface was horrible. So I got a small 8" x 10" NGen04 roll and cut it to fit on top of the old mousepad and it stays in place with the silicone backing. Versatile stuff.
http://www.cshyde.com/c4web/C4Ngen04.htm
And I use these EX-L Discs on bottom of the mouse:
http://www.cshyde.com/c4web/Accessories.htm
CSHyde still sells the best mousing surfaces without marketing hype or silly naming schemes.Something I think a lot of people are missing when discussing things like this is availability. Most people can pick up said ULTRAXTREMESUPERPAD 5000000 from their local store or favourite online store, and for a lot of people they'd rather get something that works perfectly well from a source they're familiar with rather than something that's better but harder to get a hold of.
So few have figured it out yet.
But, I guess the sheeple derive some comfort from having their Ultra Anaconda X-TREME XB4000 Turbo ICE Blasting Mat sitting on their desks.
you guys will be disappointed if you go steel seriesWhy would that be I have run about 10 different pads from them and have never been disappointed...
I've been using the XL Qck, I like it, but I feel like the size and shape isn't exactly efficient. Half my area is taken up by the mouse pad, but I don't want my keyboard on an angle, so it's a lot less versatile of a space. A friend of mine has a Razor pad that has more length to it, I think i'd really like to have my whole desk covered in a surface, so my keyboard can be stable too.
I just ordered this guy.
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Very hard to find. I ordered it from two different websites and they refunded me saying out of stock. Hopefully 3rd times a charm :-)
More info:http://www.ozonegaming.com/product.php?id=17 (http://www.ozonegaming.com/product.php?id=17)
Just got my C4 NGen Mousepads (http://tinyurl.com/7lazwws). I got a great deal on Blemished (http://tinyurl.com/2lus5k) ones. I love the mosepads definitely one of the slickest and nicest surfaces that I have ever used. Im now thinking of getting some steel or aluminum and having them cover that.
That looks good!
seems to be pretty thick as well, will definitively consider it.
edit: It's in the uk, oh well the search continues.
I'm in USA.
http://www.directron.com/ozglxt.html
Choose usps for shipping its cheaper than ups (default)
Plus they take paypal
I dont see thick as a good thing (at least regarding mousepads)
Just got my C4 NGen Mousepads (http://tinyurl.com/7lazwws). I got a great deal on Blemished (http://tinyurl.com/2lus5k) ones. I love the mosepads definitely one of the slickest and nicest surfaces that I have ever used. Im now thinking of getting some steel or aluminum and having them cover that.
Just picked one of these up thanks profosist!!!Impressions?
Impressions?
I just ordered it today, Ill let ya know when it reaches me :). From the pic, its got some nice thickness to it, I like that.I like the thickness not too thick but not too thin.
Got a Boogie Bug XL today, love the size of it, far prefer having both keyboard and mouse on the pad :)
Hey, I'm sorry if this has already been answered, but what is the best mousepad, in your opinion, that covers the mouse AND the keyboard?
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Hey, I'm sorry if this has already been answered, but what is the best mousepad, in your opinion, that covers the mouse AND the keyboard?
http://www.cshyde.com/c4web/C4Ngen04.htmDon't think that fits a keyboard lol
Is 36" x 20" large enough for you?
http://www.cshyde.com/c4web/C4Ngen04.htm
Is 36" x 20" large enough for you?
Don't think that fits a keyboard lolThat would easily fit and fi you dont like the sizes they have they can make one to the exact size that you want if you email them.
That would easily fit and fi you dont like the sizes they have they can make one to the exact size that you want if you email them.
Thanks, but is there anything united states side?
Could always get this one.
http://www.amazon.com/Razer-Goliathus-Extended-Mouse-Pad-Control/dp/B004JMZXMK/ref=sr_1_7?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1328781563&sr=1-7
Razer Kabuto, best mouse pad I've had... not stupidly oversized like the "GAMING" mousepads they sell. Uses nice material and well its just plain and simple.
Pic stolen from google, but pretty much my setup.
http://www.negitaku.org/images/2009/11/091102-razer_kabuto.jpg
The idea of having a super wide mouse pad that covers almost my entire work area is pretty cool, but it's also more to keep clean, and I don't use super low sensitivity.
I use a fairly high sensitivity (about 1000DPI), I still like having a wide mouse pad to play on. I use the Goliathus extended (I think the speed version), and it fits the mouse, the keyboard and my N52. Love it.
Finally took a quick picture of my mousemat :)
(boogiebug)
I am using a Razer Goliathus Cloth mat.
I really like it and will never go to anything else but Cloth mats! Why? because it is perfectly smooth, the texture doesn't fade with heavy use like with hard plastic mats etc.
Also tracking is the best I've had so far for any surface...
I had a few hardplastic mats before like from Razer, speedlink and while the tracking on them is great, the feeling is more scratchy than smooth and the surface suffers greatly with time so you will either have to get a new one or live with a suboptimal pad.
Also they "destroy" the mouseskates very easily. They get used up and very scratchy with time.
This is my first cloth mat and I will never look back again. For reference: http://store.razerzone.com/store/razerusa/en_US/pd/productID.169417000 small version.
Anyone feel like trying out Artisan's mousepad ?
Artisan mouse pads are awesome. I have like 10 of them.
I like Shiden Kai, but I would probably recommend starting with Hien. The VE(value edition) versions are okay, but the regular red Hiens are on sale right now. Soft (http://www.amazon.com/Clearance-SAMURAI-gaming-mouse-Japan/dp/B004UMGLXO/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1331086573&sr=8-4), Mid (http://www.amazon.com/Clearance-SAMURAI-gaming-mouse-Japan/dp/B004UJ1QYG/ref=pd_sim_sbs_e_6), Hard (http://www.amazon.com/Clearance-SAMURAI-gaming-mouse-Japan/dp/B004UIWJA2/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1331086573&sr=8-5).
SteelSeries 9HD
After a long time of using cloth surfaces I finally went with a hard surface mousepad. Its working out quite well.
I just received my XtracPads ripperxxl last week. This thing is HUGE and almost didn't have room for it on my desk. It's really light so it may move around a lot, but since it's so big, I set my keyboard and speakers on it so it doesn't budge. It was relatively cheap, 30 bucks for a 36x18 mousepad.. It's just plain black so nothing special but I definitely think it was a good deal.
OK, so after months of sitting on the fence I finally took the plunge and sprung for an Artisan mouse pad to use with my Razer DeathAdder Black Edition. I should say I am not a serious or even occasional gamer, however I wanted something that would perform well and last a long time. I had originally intended to buy a Shiden-Kai, but changed my mind after reading some reviews and deciding I wanted something softer; I ended up buying the Hayate Soft M, which arrived in the mail yesterday.
According to Artisan's website, the Hayate is only available in "dark violet", which could fool me, since even in a bright room, sitting next to a black RealForce keyboard and a black DeathAdder mouse, the Hayate surprisingly looks very black. At first glance, I thought the Hayate looked somewhat thin and unassuming, which gave me pangs of remorse since it cost just over $50 before shipping. However now that I've been using it for nearly 24 hours my opinion of the Hayate has changed completely. I can't directly compare it to the QCK, Zowie or Razer since I've never used another pro gaming pad, but based on my own limited experience the Hayate is by far the best mouse pad I've ever owned. The surface feels great on my hand, it's just soft enough that it doesn't make my wrist sore and it appears easy to clean and not attract dirt. The DA glides on it with (what feels to my hands like) zero friction, but without being at all slippery, a possible weakness with a glass pad such as the Shiden-Kai. The backing of the Hayate pad has a very dense honeycomb pattern, made from some kind of rubber or foam, which sticks to like glue to the smooth surface of my desk, preventing any ripples or sliding.
To summarize:
Hayate Soft M
Pros: impressive materials and build quality (better than implied on Artisan's website); zero friction, zero resistance, zero slipperiness; surface/core are soft enough that they're comfortable without feeling squishy; backing prevents sliding and bunching.
Cons: pricey; only available in Medium and Large sizes.
10/10
I like QcK they aren't super expensive and are not cheap and work really well. Cloth mats are more comfortable than hard mats. QcK + DeathAdder is an epic combo.
I have been using the Razer Destructor for about 2 years now. It's fairly thin and tracks well.Same experience here - I use the Destructor with my CM Sentinel Advance on my PC. I tried cloth mouse pads (one Steelseries, and one OCZ), and I prefer the feel of plastic. The cloth mouse pads tend to 'exfoliate' my palm.
http://store.razerzone.com/store/razerusa/en_US/pd/productID.169416300
Been using it with the Logitech G9, and have been using that about as long. Haven't considered a new mousepad, since this one has been pretty much perfect for me.
So after a world of measuring and remeasuring.. and finally finding a place that will ship to Aus..
COREPAD Cerro Waterproof Cloth Gaming Mat, XX-Large
http://www.coolerguys.com/840556097006.html
^^ these guys dont ship internationally I dont think.. Atleast if they did it was too dear to do it..
I found a dude on ebay.co.uk and and picked it up for $60AUD which isn't cheap.. but is technically as big as two Razer Mantis Control's of which I paid roughly 25-30 bucks.. so.
So hurrah.. finally a proper cloth mouse mat that will allow my keyboard on it that will be comfy!
C4-NGen04 product seems really cool! Does anyone have real-life photos of it in use? I want to get an idea of how it will look it on a desk
Mine should be here this week I'll snap a few photos.
Moved on to a Mionix Prop us and a Zowie Swift.Aluminum is the way to go.
The Zowie has more glide but also more starting friction which is annoying and clearly noticeable in Windows.
The Mionix has bit less smoothness but also much less starting friction and is currently my pad of choice. I'm aiming to try an aluminium pad, and maybe an Artisan Hayate in future.
I've never used a mousepad, but I'm looking to get one now.
Can anyone recommend me a good cloth one? I like the size of the Steelseries Qck - is this the one I should be getting, or are there others that are better/cheaper with a similar size?
the bottom of a coles/woolworths grocery bag, have used them for years and cheap as chips. the best part is they have a different surface depending on what side you use lol. one side is super slick smooth, the other ridged and bumpy.
yeah, its ghetto as all hell but trust me go try it and then you wont care lol
I'm from Canada and I bought mine from their English site straight from Japan. Shipping is like $15 though :(
Quote from: speakeasy;291948Thanks, confirmed via google, good info to know. Almost bought a Steelseries QcK mini :)
Yeah, I ran into the OCN post by skylit describing a few changes (http://www.overclock.net/12277422-post20.html).
They also plan on releasing a glass pad not sure if it's like the icemat(pure glass) or a cloth-glass derivative like their g2 with glass beads. It's called the Shiden (http://www.overclock.net/12310337-post23.html) and is being offered up to a large 42cm x 32cm x 0.3cm. Either way it's going to last until it breaks because the only hard pad(or for that matter any type of mouse pad) that doesn't wear in some way, shape or form; unless you break it or scratch it is the glass pads like the magna and I-1/2.
Hard to find info maybe I'm putting in the wrong words, can't seem to find much.
Started off from being just a keyboard addict, I'm now a mousepad addict as well :(
My very first gaming mousepad was the Icemat v2. Sleekest thing ever but seems to cause gunk buildup on my white mousefeet, and its glide feels gritty now.
Next was the Razer eXaxtMat and the Puretrak Talent... nothing particularly noteworthy about them except the texture on the eXactMat starts to wear off after few weeks of use and the Talent feels too sluggish for my taste.
It was after I tried Artisan's mousepad that I was really into gaming mousepads :)
I think I might even need my own thread to write stuff about them :p plus I do still owe a review for their Zero mousepad campaign.
Do GH have a review sub forum that I can write up my thoughts regarding this?
I remembered I used to read reviews on several keyboards, but I can't seem to find them anymore.
How does the Zero compare to the Hayate? I have taken some interest in the Zero myself but I do not want to really buy it as the Hayate is my perfect mousepad. I am mostly just curious since I have tried out nearly all of their mousepads other than the Shiden series. :)Frankly speaking, the Hayate is still my favorite too =)
How does the Zero compare to the Hayate? I have taken some interest in the Zero myself but I do not want to really buy it as the Hayate is my perfect mousepad. I am mostly just curious since I have tried out nearly all of their mousepads other than the Shiden series. :)Frankly speaking, the Hayate is still my favorite too =)
I think it might've been because of the weight of my mouse that the Zero feels too soft and tad too sluggish.
Shiden I would describe it to be a... bendable "hard" pad? =p good during my lazy days, when I don't care for precision but just pure glide =)
The next closest one to Hayate, IMO would be the Raiden.
But its quality doesn't seem to be as good as the Hayate.
Shame that the Hayate collects dust rather easily, if not, I too will claim it to be the perfect mousepad =)
Frankly speaking, the Hayate is still my favorite too =)
I think it might've been because of the weight of my mouse that the Zero feels too soft and tad too sluggish.
Shiden I would describe it to be a... bendable "hard" pad? =p good during my lazy days, when I don't care for precision but just pure glide =)
The next closest one to Hayate, IMO would be the Raiden.
But its quality doesn't seem to be as good as the Hayate.
Shame that the Hayate collects dust rather easily, if not, I too will claim it to be the perfect mousepad =)
Yes I do find that my Hayate needs to be cleaned every couple months which is a little annoying. :PYa thats the main, and perhaps the only, con from the Hayate :p
My favourites are Hien (for its value) and Hayate (for the feel). Zero kinda fulfill its claim, feels like QcK but has smaller friction and faster glide and initial movement. However, after a dose of too many Artisan mousepads, I think my hands have gone numb and I find a lack of description for them... (I ordered Hayate and Raiden together with Zero) :-XEven putting price factor aside, Hien is my 2nd favorite :D
Yes I do find that my Hayate needs to be cleaned every couple months which is a little annoying. :PYa thats the main, and perhaps the only, con from the Hayate :p
How do you clean yours?
I used damp towels and took me a while just to clean an area of approximately 5x5cm lol.My favourites are Hien (for its value) and Hayate (for the feel). Zero kinda fulfill its claim, feels like QcK but has smaller friction and faster glide and initial movement. However, after a dose of too many Artisan mousepads, I think my hands have gone numb and I find a lack of description for them... (I ordered Hayate and Raiden together with Zero) :-XEven putting price factor aside, Hien is my 2nd favorite :D
I've never tried a Qck before. So you'd say the Zero really is a Qck killer?
lol there can never be too many for me, but I do tend to get less picky over which to use now :p
Same thing with keyboards.... I've been using my least favorite switch for over a week :))
I brush my keyboard with a toothbrush very gently and use about 1 drop of dish soap in a bowl of water for a very diluted cleaning solution that will not damage the mousepad. It works very well but there are still some strands of unwanted fabric left in the mousepad which I do not like and it is pretty difficult to get rid of them.You meant to type "brush my mousepad"? =)
Even putting price factor aside, Hien is my 2nd favorite :D
I've never tried a Qck before. So you'd say the Zero really is a Qck killer?
lol there can never be too many for me, but I do tend to get less picky over which to use now :p
Same thing with keyboards.... I've been using my least favorite switch for over a week :))
I like to test things out too. I've typed on a Cherry black QFR at office for 2 weeks until I feel fatigue building up just in order to try to understand the switch :DDid you receive the non-branding Rapid? =D
I think Zero is a faster QcK, that's it. If you like faster glide/lower initial resistance, then Zero is better than QcK (note that Zero still remains very controllable). If someone likes more friction, then QcK is for him :))
(I said in my review on OCN that Zero was better than QcK because it had faster glide etc, and then got bashed by another member there as being biased :-X I guess he was right if fast =/= better)
I brush my keyboard with a toothbrush very gently and use about 1 drop of dish soap in a bowl of water for a very diluted cleaning solution that will not damage the mousepad. It works very well but there are still some strands of unwanted fabric left in the mousepad which I do not like and it is pretty difficult to get rid of them.You meant to type "brush my mousepad"? =)
I'm rather worried to brush it.
It might be psychological but I think my Hayate don't quite feel the same anymore after several cloth-rubbing sessions :-X
Does yours feel any different?
So after listening to Geekhack and getting the Dell 2412, I now know why people need larger mousepads. It's so hard to move the mouse and have to pick it up and put it back into position when using a small mousepad....
Has anyone made a comparison of the Hayate against the QCK+ yet?
It's the design that matters :) I didn't know Razer had a branch in China.
I have tried both. What would you like to know?
Bet no one has seen one of these before:Show Image(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2tqt6P98l1r24otho1_r1_1280.jpg)
Bet no one has seen one of these before:Show Image(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2tqt6P98l1r24otho1_r1_1280.jpg)
These are so moe. Where can we get them?
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Wa-wa-wa-wa-wait, that's an androgynous guy on the mousepad. It's not a girl and it's not supposed to be MOE, wtf!?!?!
Anyway, you can get them here (I bought from this guy and nowadays it somehow got cheaper):
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Original-Boxed-Razer-Goliathus-Dragon-Valley-Limited-Edition-Mouse-pad-Size-355-x-245-x-4mm/454732242.html
I have tried both. What would you like to know?
How does the material of the Hayate compare in terms of feel with the QCK+? Do you personally think it's worth the 5x price premium? If you didn't have a mousepad currently, and knowing what you know now, what mousepad would you get? This can be any mousepad, not just the QCK+ and Hayate.
Anyone know where I could get Hayate?
Then it has to be the Artisan website then. :(
Ughh that is just so sexy. I have to buy this, even if it is just for novelty. Thanks for the link :)Bet no one has seen one of these before:Show Image(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2tqt6P98l1r24otho1_r1_1280.jpg)
These are so moe. Where can we get them?
Wa-wa-wa-wa-wait, that's an androgynous guy on the mousepad. It's not a girl and it's not supposed to be MOE, wtf!?!?!
Anyway, you can get them here (I bought from this guy and nowadays it somehow got cheaper):
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Original-Boxed-Razer-Goliathus-Dragon-Valley-Limited-Edition-Mouse-pad-Size-355-x-245-x-4mm/454732242.html
Believe it or not, it's really authentic. I had a Razer Goliathus Medium Sized V2 before, and its box comes with seals and other stuff that indicate it's really original (although there's Goliathus fakes everywhere, even this model has some around).
Corsair just caome out with some I wonder how theyll stack up
just saw it on their facebook feed should show up on their webpage soon.Corsair just caome out with some I wonder how theyll stack up
link please
Oh yes those do look nice. And to think they just started out making RAM. Soon enough you'll be able to buy a 100% Corsair computer.
For those of you that haven't seen the excellent comparison between the Artisan mousepads, check out the PDF that Tubby made!
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/32172733/review/Artisan_2012_review-by-tubby.pdf
It's making it very hard for me to stick with my decision to just stick with a larger QCK+ or a CM RX lol.
For those of you that haven't seen the excellent comparison between the Artisan mousepads, check out the PDF that Tubby made!Oh hey thanks for spreading the link, Swagpiratex, appreciate it ^^
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/32172733/review/Artisan_2012_review-by-tubby.pdf
It's making it very hard for me to stick with my decision to just stick with a larger QCK+ or a CM RX lol.
A very good review. Although I don't agree with everything, at least he likes the Hayate the most! My favorite as well. I don't even plan to try out the Zero or Raiden I like it so much. :)Thanks, Hfcobra. I am very much open to discussions and would really love to hear which part you disagree with :)
Just reviewed the Zero, also concluded that it is great for FPS!
I found the glide to be faster than the QCK. I haven't tried any other Artisan cloth pads though so can't compare it there, apparently it's the slowest then?
Here's my quick review anyway: Zero XSoft Medium
I'm sort of looking for a new mouse pad, I used a Razer scabbard but then I got a new mouse, The kana. The kana doesn't like the hard surface, I tried the StarCraft QCK but it feels WAY too slow, I could get a Goliathus Speed edition in the omega size but I think it might be too small. I live in Sweden so my "inventory" is fairly limited.Actually, there are quite a few gadget-y stores in Sweden from what I've seen, so as long as you don't want something obscure like Artisan or X-Trac pads you should find something that suits you.
Help please?
For those of you that haven't seen the excellent comparison between the Artisan mousepads, check out the PDF that Tubby made!Oh hey thanks for spreading the link, Swagpiratex, appreciate it ^^
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/32172733/review/Artisan_2012_review-by-tubby.pdf
It's making it very hard for me to stick with my decision to just stick with a larger QCK+ or a CM RX lol.
Sorry to have muddled your decision though lol
Maybe you can ask around for opinions on which one would better suit your need. Sadly I have no experience on both ^^;
But from what I read, many prefer the Artisan Zero over the QcK.
For control, I personally prefer the Hien over it though ^^
Good luck finding your perfect mousepad, Swatpiratex ^^bA very good review. Although I don't agree with everything, at least he likes the Hayate the most! My favorite as well. I don't even plan to try out the Zero or Raiden I like it so much. :)Thanks, Hfcobra. I am very much open to discussions and would really love to hear which part you disagree with :)
And I wouldn't rule out any of them completely cos they have their uses.
The Zero for example, I think would actually be valuable for FPS players, maybe even more so than the Hayate I would think :) And Raiden would suit those who are lured by those glide test videos which shows their mouse gliding across the surface when blown :D But then it always comes down to personal preferences, but just like keyboards, a certain switch could sometime be more suitable for a particular use and not so much for others :)
Guys I'm thinking of replacing my qck+, going artisan. Which mousepad should I go? I play lol, dota 2, various fps. I have very low sensitivity. Around 450-550 dpi.I'm a low sensitivity gamer too. Played competitive CoD4 with in-game sensitivity of 1 and DPI of 800 on my Ikari Optical. Anyway I really like the QcK Heavy because it's so thick for stability + comfort plus really huge that you can turn it 90degrees and get an almost untouched surface.
Guys I'm thinking of replacing my qck+, going artisan. Which mousepad should I go? I play lol, dota 2, various fps. I have very low sensitivity. Around 450-550 dpi.I'm a low sensitivity gamer too. Played competitive CoD4 with in-game sensitivity of 1 and DPI of 800 on my Ikari Optical. Anyway I really like the QcK Heavy because it's so thick for stability + comfort plus really huge that you can turn it 90degrees and get an almost untouched surface.
Can anyone recommend a decently wide mousepad? I would like something that runs about 22-24" wide to fit both my poker and mouse on there, preferably blue or black solid color.The XTRAC Ripper XXL is 36" wide, although at the moment I can't recall the names of any other deksmats other than maybe the Razer Goliathus.
Anyone using anything like that?
I have a QCK standard but I have been looking at some aluminium mousepads.... they look pretty nice. Expensive though.
Not sure if I would like it though. Wish there was a good brick and mortar that had some high-quality peripherals to try out. Microcenter is okay but they don't put enough stuff out to test out.
I have a QCK standard but I have been looking at some aluminium mousepads.... they look pretty nice. Expensive though.
Not sure if I would like it though. Wish there was a good brick and mortar that had some high-quality peripherals to try out. Microcenter is okay but they don't put enough stuff out to test out.
You can always ask them if you can test it in the store. That's how I checked out the Corsair Vengeance K90 with reds and the QFR with browns and blues. They might let you hook a mouse up to a computer and test out a mousepad. Definitely worth a try.
Steelseries qck+ heavy.. /end threadI noticed in another thread that you have a G500, you might want to give a hard pad a go as the QcK, while decent, is not all that great as far as cloth pads go. Not a problem for optical users, but the G500 has a laser sensor and laser tends to work better on hard pad.
steelseries 9hd. it's good as far as hard pads go, but i'm still not sure whether i actually like hard pads. it's an odd mix of being smooth and textured at the same time.
I like hard pads because they are so friction free and more precise feeling. Soft pads annoy me due to their squishiness and the stupid amount of drag they put on the mouse.
AFAIK all QcK pads have the same surface, I have both a Heavy and a QcK+, and while I haven't done a side-by-side comparison I'd say they're pretty much the same. The thickness of the heavy might make it feel a bit smoother, but I believe the surface material is the same.I like hard pads because they are so friction free and more precise feeling. Soft pads annoy me due to their squishiness and the stupid amount of drag they put on the mouse.
right, that's what attracted me to the 9hd in the first place. but i think to an extent the squishy draggy feeling can actually help in fps games depending on the style of player you are, and some cloth pads have more of it than others. from what i've heard the qck heavy is supposed to have a fairly slick surface -- smoother than the others in the QCK line. i haven't used a cloth pad in ages, but i always think about grabbing a QCK Heavy and seeing if i like it better.
but then i think about how i'll feel after i spend $25 or so on a mouse pad, use it once or twice and decide i hate it, so i never end up getting one.
I just got my Mionix Sargas 900 desk mat today, and I'm impressed! I've been using a QCK for several years now, and loved it. For some reason Mionix marketed this pad series as having a "friction glide," but I'm not sure why. It's slicker than a QCK could ever hope to be, and I find it noticeably easier to make much finer movements. I have a fingertip grip, and my G9 and new Spawn both track perfectly on it. The only con is the way they cut the material has left a scratchy edge, but with my keyboard wrist rest on the edge I don't notice it.
Got my razer manticor, and to my delight it's my new favorite pad out of the 25 or so I've tried.
Just recently switched back to a Puretrak Talent. Coming from various Artisan pads, I liked them a lot, but they wear out way too fast for the cost.
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Currently, i'm using Razer Goliathus Fragged Speed Team Liquid edition.
I've tried quite few mousepads, such as
Func F series (plastic)
Func new Archetype (plastic)
SteelSeries QcK
Razer Goliathus Fragged Speed Edition
Razer Vespula (plastic)
Tt eSports Dasher
Zowie N-RF 2
and i realised that for RTS games, i feel more comfortable playing on the cloth mousepads. Plastic pads feels too slippery, hard to control.
And i'm using Razer Goliathus Fragged because all the sides are stitched when SteelSeries QcK mousepads are not stitched so that sides get pilled off later on.
And!
With the cloth mousepads, your mouse feet don't get worn out when with plastic and metal ones they do.
Had the Destructor, it's great but wears out too quickly(about a year). Currently using the 9HD(just into the 2nd year and it's starting to show wear and tear), I find it much better than the Destructor but it might be too slippery for some.
Wear and tear = Shiny spot that where the mouse dont glide as quickly.
One day a mousepad came with a game I bought. To this day I still use it: A Wrath of the Lich King QcK! Yeah, I know- I keep telling myself that one day I'll just buy the regular black version, but this thing is as good as the day I bought it. About twice a year I throw it in the wash and it comes out good as new. Love it!i have a bunch of those mouse pads with the collector's edition, i prob should try them out lol
Just recently switched back to a Puretrak Talent. Coming from various Artisan pads, I liked them a lot, but they wear out way too fast for the cost.
I use the Razer Destructor, too bad they discontinued this model tho.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/2RGs1up.jpg)
I am not sure if I posted this already but I now use an Artisan Hayate. I bought it the day it was released and never looked back! Love this thing! I've tried many other Artisan and non-Artisan pads but nothing seems to come close. :)
How's the Steelseries QcK? I'd like something better than the artscow mousepad i'm using now but I don't want to spend a ton. I'd prefer a soft mousepad, tried hard ones and I don't like them at all.
Ordered a Zowie G-TF Speed along with EC1 eVo.
A Zowie Fanatic here :thumb: . Still waiting for my EC1 eVo to come in, but I live in convict town - located in the middle of nowhere, hence everything takes ages to get to my door.
Let us know how your pad and rodent is when it arrives.
Where'd you order from?
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Zowie-Gear-USB-Wired-Optical-2300-dpi-Competitive-Gaming-Mouse-EC1-eVo-White-/321101469636?pt=Mice&hash=item4ac32397c4
They're the ONLY ones selling an all WHITE - EC1-eVo. I have already so many grey and black coloured rodents just wanted to add a lighter coloured one, to my collection.
God damn, just saw the announcement on EC eVo CL, same mouse with FK's coating and NEW 24-STEP SCROLL WHEEL
Yeah, the EVIL bastards just released that model today the 7th of October. Damn, gotta get that Black and White baby as well, cause it looks like I may be turned towards the Zowie side 8) .
Did they mention if it'll be available in 2 sizes like the current series?
Now I feel like not opening the evos so I can sell them bnib haha.. they're estimated to arrive on Friday.
Oh c'mon...... let's not get distracted with just the SCROLL wheel. I know it might be their achilles heel for them but at least use it and then decide whether it's worth ditching.
I never throw away a rodent just because it's what someone else has said. FIRST use it then decide to keep or ditch it. If I had to ditch every mouse I have ever used to some Land-fill site, they would cry fowl for the huge junk pile I've just sent them.
Keep it because you never know in the future when you will change your mind. That is why I keep everything because my disturbed and demented brain has seizures to normal human thought patterns. Hence today I want to destroy the world but tomorrow I may change my opinion. Always hold off the major decisions for now till you get some time to adjust.
Just arrived !Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/X3JygpG.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/YycI7Sx.jpg)
ST_Bomber & Life FTW.
Just arrived !Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/X3JygpG.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/YycI7Sx.jpg)
ST_Bomber & Life FTW.
Sweet. Don't their G-CMs come with a Zowie down the middle diagonally, though?
How's the feel on the pad?
Just arrived !Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/X3JygpG.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/YycI7Sx.jpg)
ST_Bomber & Life FTW.
How's the Steelseries QcK? I'd like something better than the artscow mousepad i'm using now but I don't want to spend a ton. I'd prefer a soft mousepad, tried hard ones and I don't like them at all.
How's the Steelseries QcK? I'd like something better than the artscow mousepad i'm using now but I don't want to spend a ton. I'd prefer a soft mousepad, tried hard ones and I don't like them at all.
Qck is quite good, especially for the price. It might be annoying when you first take it out of the package (it is rolled into a long tube) and try to flatten it, but it will flatten overtime.
However I would just pay a bit more and get the Razer Goliathus. It is a lot thicker, stabler (as in it doesn't slide on your table surface), and the mat surface is quite a bit more durable.
Currently using a XTrac Ripper. It's not bad but feels a bit cheap and has began to fall apart (cloth coming up around the edges/sides) after about a year of use.
Actually the XXL looks kinda nice. Do you sit your entire keyboard/mouse on it?Currently using a XTrac Ripper. It's not bad but feels a bit cheap and has began to fall apart (cloth coming up around the edges/sides) after about a year of use.
been using the ripper xxl for YEARS.. I never touch the edge because it's so big.. perhaps that's why my edges are still great...Show Image(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion_custom/th_0suit.gif)
Have been running with a steelseries QCK + for several years now. Very happy with it so far.
Steelseries QCK+ mini with a SteelSeries Sensei RAW.
Can't go wrong.
Have you tried the thick QcK? My only complaint is that it's rather gritty in "portrait mode".
I'm actually in the same boat as you blackheart, as in I love my goliathus but it's just getting too dirty. It does sound like the Hien would be the best in terms of closeness to Goliathus, but having never used any artisan mousepads I can't be sure at all..would love some advice as well.
Have you tried the thick QcK? My only complaint is that it's rather gritty in "portrait mode".
On a different note, I've decided to completely relearn my mousing technique from scratch. I was impressed by Naniwa's style—how he lets the mouse slide and catches it again, in particular. I guess this is about impossible to do on a cloth pad though.
Are there any budget super-smooth go-to hard pads?
I'm thinking about getting the razer goliathus, what is in your opinion the better version; speed or control?What is this TB? What is this mousepad?
(i'm using razer abyssus if that's relevant to what version i should get)
E: So far what i've read is that their names are counter intuitive, the speed version gives you more friction => slower mouse movement => suits me better since i use a pretty high dpi (1800). Correct me if i'm wrong.
I'm thinking about getting the razer goliathus, what is in your opinion the better version; speed or control?What is this TB? What is this mousepad?
(i'm using razer abyssus if that's relevant to what version i should get)
E: So far what i've read is that their names are counter intuitive, the speed version gives you more friction => slower mouse movement => suits me better since i use a pretty high dpi (1800). Correct me if i'm wrong.
Ah yes, right you are. BUT I need BIGGER. Xtrac Ripper XXL. 50% wider than yours, approx same length. That's what I'm going to order, probably. Thanks for the answer :thumb:
1800 is high dpi? I use 3500 on my low end and 4800 on the high end. Mouse goes to 6400 but that's silly.
should I get the xtrac xxxxxxxxl ripper or the goliathus extended as a full desk mat?
should I get the xtrac xxxxxxxxl ripper or the goliathus extended as a full desk mat?
I'm having second doubts on xtrac xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxl. Goliathus is ****ing disgusting aesthetically but the material is GREAT. I'm using control (not speed) and I absolutely love this pad, it matches my G9X perfectly (whoever doesn't understand G9x is the best mouse ever made is clearly not a claw grip user).
I can recommend goliathus speed easily.
should I get the xtrac xxxxxxxxl ripper or the goliathus extended as a full desk mat?
I'm having second doubts on xtrac xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxl. Goliathus is ****ing disgusting aesthetically but the material is GREAT. I'm using control (not speed) and I absolutely love this pad, it matches my G9X perfectly (whoever doesn't understand G9x is the best mouse ever made is clearly not a claw grip user).
I can recommend goliathus speed easily.
Whats wrong with the goliathus design?
The new model looks amazing
I really, really don't like it. I would much rather see plain black like the first iteration of design was (which I currently have).
But, to each his own of course. If you like the design then that mouse pad is really nice and I can only recommend it, even though you will destroy it in 1.5-2 years it's still worth it.
Well edges will start to tear...I took good care of mine and they still did. If that doesn't bother you you can have it for years and years, however.
should I get the xtrac xxxxxxxxl ripper or the goliathus extended as a full desk mat?
I'm having second doubts on xtrac xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxl. Goliathus is ****ing disgusting aesthetically but the material is GREAT. I'm using control (not speed) and I absolutely love this pad, it matches my G9X perfectly (whoever doesn't understand G9x is the best mouse ever made is clearly not a claw grip user).
I can recommend goliathus speed easily.
Whats wrong with the goliathus design?
The new model looks amazing
Nah, the new model is horrible. The old one was fairly garish as well, but then it was at least just two colours. New design is just too much. I'm glad I was able to pick up one of each before they changed the design.
I'm thinking about getting the razer goliathus, what is in your opinion the better version; speed or control?
(i'm using razer abyssus if that's relevant to what version i should get)
E: So far what i've read is that their names are counter intuitive, the speed version gives you more friction => slower mouse movement => suits me better since i use a pretty high dpi (1800). Correct me if i'm wrong.
looking to pick up a wide mousepad; thoughts on the sargas 900?Sargas 900 looks file. If the shape doesn't bother you.
I have a puretrak stealth atm and love it. I just ordered an Artisan HEIN Hard mousepad. I think it comes tomorrow or the next day. Really looking forward to it since I heard great things about Artisan mousepads. Will report back when I get it!
Hard plastic, cloth and glass are the main ones.
I've used some func industries 1030 series for years. After the last was well used, a friends offers me a qpad one but I did not like cloth mousepad.
So after some research, I bought a roccat hiro.
The feel is between cloth and hard plastic pad, comfortable and easy clean ( I am playing mmo and fps).
Hard plastic, cloth and glass are the main ones.
Glass isn't really there; the SteelSeries pad was the only noteworthy glass pad, and that's gone out of production now. One of the Artisan pads does have glass beads on it if memory serves, though, so glass is available, but only on one type of pad and not as a proper glass surface.
Hard plastic, cloth and glass are the main ones.
Glass isn't really there; the SteelSeries pad was the only noteworthy glass pad, and that's gone out of production now. One of the Artisan pads does have glass beads on it if memory serves, though, so glass is available, but only on one type of pad and not as a proper glass surface.
There are also the old Icemat's, but those are very rare to come across now as they weren't made for a long time. I still have my 1st gen Icemat and I love it. But yeah I agree, glass really isn't an option anymore sadly.
When I first got my Icemat in 2003, I had never even heard of Steel Series, and there was no mention of them on the Icemat website. All I remember is that my Icemat was manufactured and shipped from Denmark - doesn't sound too Steel Series-y to me at all. They acquired them later on.Both were founded in 2001 in Denmark, and since my previous post I have discovered that both brands were owned by what was then known as SoftTrading. They were later merged into the SteelSeries brand, and SoftTrading APS became SteelSeries APS.
I think I've tried every Steelseries, fUnc, most Razer - and I feel they don't quite deliver on durability or precision. but I'm extremely picky and have been gaming competitively for way too long.
all in all, LOVE the feel of the Icemat - but not for long gaming sessions unfortunately!
Just got a new Quakecon G400S and as soon as I plugged it in the cursor started jerking across the screen having epileptic fits. Naturally I suspected it was due to my Roccat Hiro 3D mouse pad.
I switched out the pad to a G440 and guess what, smooth as peanut butter. I suspected Logitech designed these new mouse pads for their current range of mice due to the sensors but was extremely pissed that it didn't like my Hiro pad one bit.
At least my Frankensteined MX500 still loves my Hiro, now I know why I like that customized rodent ;D .
Strange.
I wonder why the G400s doesn't like your hiro.
Does your hiro make other mouse devices with the 3090 go bonker?
Guess that custom propietary 3090 sensor (3095) is a **** :p
I heard the g400 had some issues with the cable in the past.
Just got a new Quakecon G400S and as soon as I plugged it in the cursor started jerking across the screen having epileptic fits. Naturally I suspected it was due to my Roccat Hiro 3D mouse pad.This might just be a thing in the UK, but our peanut butter has chunks of peanuts in. So, Did it get better as suggested by the rest of your post?
I switched out the pad to a G440 and guess what, smooth as peanut butter. I suspected Logitech designed these new mouse pads for their current range of mice due to the sensors but was extremely pissed that it didn't like my Hiro pad one bit.
At least my Frankensteined MX500 still loves my Hiro, now I know why I like that customized rodent ;D .
Just got a new Quakecon G400S and as soon as I plugged it in the cursor started jerking across the screen having epileptic fits. Naturally I suspected it was due to my Roccat Hiro 3D mouse pad.
I switched out the pad to a G440 and guess what, smooth as peanut butter. I suspected Logitech designed these new mouse pads for their current range of mice due to the sensors but was extremely pissed that it didn't like my Hiro pad one bit.
At least my Frankensteined MX500 still loves my Hiro, now I know why I like that customized rodent ;D .
Strange.
I wonder why the G400s doesn't like your hiro.
Does your hiro make other mouse devices with the 3090 go bonker?
Steelseries Mousepad from Amazon cost me $8, and I used previously just my glass table, sticks, cheap, high quality can't ask for more, only downside is the one I got is bigger than I thought it would be.
http://www.esreality.com/post/2414570/maxtill-tempered-glass-gaming-mousepad/
tl;dr - icemat's better though it's still good, maybe a bit overpriced. I still have my V2 and get surprised every time I use it... it's so smooth. I just wish it wasn't so tall and a little bit wider. and that the paint on the back didn't chip off. other than that, amazing pad.
is it possible for you to try the Razer Manticor? it's also super smooth and seems to be very durable. alu pads do require a lot of washing off though, even moreso than my icemat v2.
http://www.esreality.com/post/2414570/maxtill-tempered-glass-gaming-mousepad/
tl;dr - icemat's better though it's still good, maybe a bit overpriced. I still have my V2 and get surprised every time I use it... it's so smooth. I just wish it wasn't so tall and a little bit wider. and that the paint on the back didn't chip off. other than that, amazing pad.
is it possible for you to try the Razer Manticor? it's also super smooth and seems to be very durable. alu pads do require a lot of washing off though, even moreso than my icemat v2.
I've been using a Manticor for a while now, and so far I've had to clean it less than my I-2.
http://www.esreality.com/post/2414570/maxtill-tempered-glass-gaming-mousepad/I have a tempered glass desk that my mouse feels so good on, but it doesn't track. My friend's I-2 didn't feel quite the same and hopefully the Maxtill is closer to how my desk feels. I've heard bad things about aluminium mousepads and maintenance.
tl;dr - icemat's better though it's still good, maybe a bit overpriced. I still have my V2 and get surprised every time I use it... it's so smooth. I just wish it wasn't so tall and a little bit wider. and that the paint on the back didn't chip off. other than that, amazing pad.
is it possible for you to try the Razer Manticor? it's also super smooth and seems to be very durable. alu pads do require a lot of washing off though, even moreso than my icemat v2.
could anyone recommend me a hardpad? it has to be available in a fairly large size (length of about 16 inches / 40cm).
i want to try an icemat as well, but it looks like they're not in stock anywhere anymore. :(
(i think they were never available in large sizes, though.)
and has anyone ever tried an aluminium pad (with an optical mouse)?
what mouse are you planning to use it with?
could anyone recommend me a hardpad? it has to be available in a fairly large size (length of about 16 inches / 40cm).I didnt have optical mice but on laser, aluminium feel noisy and cold on your wirst
i want to try an icemat as well, but it looks like they're not in stock anywhere anymore. :(
(i think they were never available in large sizes, though.)
and has anyone ever tried an aluminium pad (with an optical mouse)?
After using SS QcK+ (and QcK mini) for years, I've decided to try a few different mousepads that weren't *so* cheap. I'm going to keep using QcKs under keyboards and trackballs to dampen resonance in the desk/tray, but for mouse movement, I'd prefer something faster.
Roccat Sota (plastic on aluminium sheet, rubber bottom) came warped. It was a common issue. Otherwise a nice, quite fast surface, but still a bit soft and not too cold.
SteelSeries 4HD (plastic, rubber bottom) looks good, quite fast, but I wonder what the rough texture will do to mouse feet.
Finally, Corsair MM200 XL (cloth, rubber bottom, 4mm thick) is faster than QcK and I like the 'wider' aspect ratio better (i.e. the pad doesn't hang from my tray that much). Both thickness and price are right between QcK+ and QcK Heavy. Sounds like a surprisingly good purchase.
accidentally ordered this last night:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000HTDBWI/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000HTDBWI/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)
stupid one click purchase button on amazon for android. ah whatever. i will test it out and see. this thing is supposed to be MASSIVE. i want a nice cloth pad for my ergodox and mouse. if this works out well i will order another for the office.
I've heard the Puretrak Talent is durable, machine washable and similar to the Hayate but god damn it's made in the USA and the cheapest shipping is 12 bucks and I'm even in the same state.
I've heard the Puretrak Talent is durable, machine washable and similar to the Hayate but god damn it's made in the USA and the cheapest shipping is 12 bucks and I'm even in the same state.
There's a place here in Oz selling PureTrack Talent and am waiting next week to get some. Never used it before but look forward to using a US of A made pad :thumb: . Just surprised with how cheap it is though.
Just curious to see for myself what is all the rage with PureTrack amongst the gamers out there, since they seem to overwhelmingly use their pads.
I've heard the Puretrak Talent is durable, machine washable and similar to the Hayate but god damn it's made in the USA and the cheapest shipping is 12 bucks and I'm even in the same state.
There's a place here in Oz selling PureTrack Talent and am waiting next week to get some. Never used it before but look forward to using a US of A made pad :thumb: . Just surprised with how cheap it is though.
Just curious to see for myself what is all the rage with PureTrack amongst the gamers out there, since they seem to overwhelmingly use their pads.
Can I ask which place sells the PureTrack in oz?
ok. so after having the Xtrac Ripper XXL for a few weeks here is my review:
it is by far the best cloth mousepad i have ever owned. it smelled a lot when i first took it out of its packaging but now it is just awesome. better than steelseries, better than razer, and way way cheap. excellent product.
as for cleaning cloth pads i do it in the sink with a scrub brush, a little soap, and hot water. gets em clean fast but they take a while to dry.
ok. so after having the Xtrac Ripper XXL for a few weeks here is my review:
it is by far the best cloth mousepad i have ever owned. it smelled a lot when i first took it out of its packaging but now it is just awesome. better than steelseries, better than razer, and way way cheap. excellent product.
as for cleaning cloth pads i do it in the sink with a scrub brush, a little soap, and hot water. gets em clean fast but they take a while to dry.
Sounds awesome! It seems too good to be true though
24.99 for a large gaming pad that surpasses the qck?
And it's like 50 bucks + 10 shipping to get it to canada from amazon lol
Just got a new Quakecon G400S and as soon as I plugged it in the cursor started jerking across the screen having epileptic fits. Naturally I suspected it was due to my Roccat Hiro 3D mouse pad.
I switched out the pad to a G440 and guess what, smooth as peanut butter. I suspected Logitech designed these new mouse pads for their current range of mice due to the sensors but was extremely pissed that it didn't like my Hiro pad one bit.
At least my Frankensteined MX500 still loves my Hiro, now I know why I like that customized rodent ;D .
I'm eyeing a Razer Manticor, which is a bit stupid, I guess.
Currently on a Razer Goliathus Control, which is so worn that the friction in the center is actually quite high. I like that for low sens though. It's a bit slippery on the desk for my taste.
Now, I am under the impression that the Manticor could be similar and rock solid, but dropping 40 Euros on a mousepad which will wear in a year or two doesn't sound so good.
My alternative would be to go with SS QCK, which are affordable, slim and not a huge step in feeling. Also I wouldn't have to worry about the glide pads on my mouse…
Any idea if I should try the Manticor or is there something else to consider :/? Oh, and it needs to be a no-bull**** rectangle without fancy colouring. Less obnoxious logos preferred.
Thank you, both seem pretty nice. Unfortunately they somehow thought 310x230mm would be sufficient. I just taped that size onto my current one and tested it, which works... but I have to be a bit too conscious about its placement. And while my Goliathus (350x255) is acceptable, I'd prefer something a little bit larger even....you're in Germany! there's both the Slamepad and the Alugraphics pads made there. they're single coloured pads in aluminium and IME the Slamepad so far has been extremely durable. absolutely love the pad. :)
Any idea if I should try the Manticor or is there something else to consider :/? Oh, and it needs to be a no-bull**** rectangle without fancy colouring. Less obnoxious logos preferred.
just really wish it was bigger. then it'd be my main pad 100%. I just run out of space all the time :(
I still hate cleaning mousepads though.
Those white streaks ugh.
I find that the white stuff is more than just skins cells, oil, grease and whatnotI still hate cleaning mousepads though.
Those white streaks ugh.
Since I have cats, I use these and find that they work well to keep them clean in generalShow Image(http://img.thrfun.com/img/075/877/lint_roller_s1.jpg)
I use an Icemat, and I have to wipe it off basically every other second because if even just one molecule of anything attaches to the bottom of my mouse, it will feel and sound like finger nails scratching on a chalkboard.
But it's really pretty, so I can't stop using it.
Qck+ no need for anything else. Soft and huge, like my... uh nevermind.
Hey guys, new here!
Has anyone used/has experience with the Glorious Extended mouse mat?
http://www.pcgamingrace.com/collections/extended-mouse-mats/products/glorious-extended-gaming-mouse-mat
It has some pretty good reviews on Amazon, but its cheaper on their website. It looks pretty similar to the Goliathus but only $14.99.
Speaking of Icemat, would A3050, A3090 or 3310 track on an Icemat 2? I've found only scarce and conflicting information so far.
Speaking of Icemat, would A3050, A3090 or 3310 track on an Icemat 2? I've found only scarce and conflicting information so far.
I haven't tried 3310 but 3090 works, just lowers max speed a bit IME. might not work with Zowie mice though, that have really low LOD.
will have to try my KPM on an Icemat some time.
Speaking of Icemat, would A3050, A3090 or 3310 track on an Icemat 2? I've found only scarce and conflicting information so far.
I haven't tried 3310 but 3090 works, just lowers max speed a bit IME. might not work with Zowie mice though, that have really low LOD.
will have to try my KPM on an Icemat some time.
I've got an all Black l-1 and it works nicely with FK1, Rival, G502, Mionix mice and even the old WMO series. Hence it's a really good surface for any input device regardless of any type of sensor.
Does anyone know if putting a cloth mousemat (which has rubber in it for grip to the desk) in a washing machine would work?I put my old PureTrak Talent into the washer and it was a huge mistake. I think you are better off taking a cloth and soap to it then let it dry naturally to be safe.
I have a Perixx DX-2000 XXL, and it's beginning to get quite grubby :(.
Thanks! I'll do that instead.Does anyone know if putting a cloth mousemat (which has rubber in it for grip to the desk) in a washing machine would work?I put my old PureTrak Talent into the washer and it was a huge mistake. I think you are better off taking a cloth and soap to it then let it dry naturally to be safe.
I have a Perixx DX-2000 XXL, and it's beginning to get quite grubby :( .
Where do you even find icemats nowadays?
Func 1030XL with the control side. its perfect size too I have my Zowie FK1 on 400dpi 100% of the time and in game settings are really low and I have plenty of room to move in any direction. I've tried many soft and hard pads and this is by far my favorite.
Ive used some razer mousepads I didnt like much. my favorite cloth mouse pad was the Steelseries QCK Heavy but I prefer hard pads I used a Razer Manticore before the pad I am using now which is a Func 1030 XL version 2 and I use the control side and love it.+1
^ It's amazing that you managed to switched to cloth after using aluminum. I had an SX for 2 years as well, replaced it with a Manticor and was quite happy. Not as fast as the SX in its prime but still faster than most cloth pads out there. I'm old and slow so I need something to compensate for that.
Still, finding a decent pad shouldn't be that hard. The Talent has pretty good feedback.
I'd skip the Qpad CT... stickiest feeling pad ever. super high static friction, and almost no dynamic friction :(
many people really hate the style, and everything that razer stands for. I am just like those people. I truly dislike razer stuff and I don't like the way they present their "gamer gear." But there is nothing better than the material used in their "speed" mousepad goliathus. It is a square that is 1foot 3(+ or - a little) in each direction, and is a superior surface for playing games such as Counter Strike. Especially if you take it somewhat seriously. Paired with an FK1 mouse, it is amazing.
The build quality is great and even though it's a soft mouse pad it sort of feels like a hard one.
How are these? I don't know much about them, thanks.I have the 18x16" 6mm pad and it is the best I've used. It's better than the QCK, Talent, Artisan pads by a long shot.
http://www.pcgamingrace.com/collections/extended-mouse-mats
The best mousepad i got was a large deskpad (picture of akame ga kill) for $20 from some chinese ebay seller. It was sketch but i was impressed when i got it and it works quite well. The only downside is it smelled like someone had eaten some shrimp based product while making it(i used alot of air freshener on it, to get rid of the smell). If anyone is interested i can link the ebay seller.
I'd skip the Qpad CT... stickiest feeling pad ever. super high static friction, and almost no dynamic friction :(
whoever has owned an aluminium pad: what's your opinion? do you like them for gaming?
and has anyone tried the alugraphics gamerPRO, specifically?
because i'm considering getting the XXL version..
whoever has owned an aluminium pad: what's your opinion? do you like them for gaming?
and has anyone tried the alugraphics gamerPRO, specifically?
because i'm considering getting the XXL version..
My brother has one of these, from what I've heard they're in general fairly good - but can become almost unbearable in winter months so think twice about it if you live a cold country.
:)whoever has owned an aluminium pad: what's your opinion? do you like them for gaming?
and has anyone tried the alugraphics gamerPRO, specifically?
because i'm considering getting the XXL version..
My brother has one of these, from what I've heard they're in general fairly good - but can become almost unbearable in winter months so think twice about it if you live a cold country.
hey man, thanks for your reply!
do you happen to know if the mousepad works well with an optical sensor? :)
Optical sensors track horribly on anything not cloth.whoever has owned an aluminium pad: what's your opinion? do you like them for gaming?
and has anyone tried the alugraphics gamerPRO, specifically?
because i'm considering getting the XXL version..
My brother has one of these, from what I've heard they're in general fairly good - but can become almost unbearable in winter months so think twice about it if you live a cold country.
hey man, thanks for your reply!
do you happen to know if the mousepad works well with an optical sensor? :)
My Mionix Naos 7000 tracks great on my old Qpad hardtop mouse pad. It doesn't track at all on my wooden table though.Optical sensors track horribly on anything not cloth.whoever has owned an aluminium pad: what's your opinion? do you like them for gaming?
and has anyone tried the alugraphics gamerPRO, specifically?
because i'm considering getting the XXL version..
My brother has one of these, from what I've heard they're in general fairly good - but can become almost unbearable in winter months so think twice about it if you live a cold country.
hey man, thanks for your reply!
do you happen to know if the mousepad works well with an optical sensor? :)
Optical sensors track horribly on anything not cloth.whoever has owned an aluminium pad: what's your opinion? do you like them for gaming?
and has anyone tried the alugraphics gamerPRO, specifically?
because i'm considering getting the XXL version..
My brother has one of these, from what I've heard they're in general fairly good - but can become almost unbearable in winter months so think twice about it if you live a cold country.
hey man, thanks for your reply!
do you happen to know if the mousepad works well with an optical sensor? :)
:)whoever has owned an aluminium pad: what's your opinion? do you like them for gaming?
and has anyone tried the alugraphics gamerPRO, specifically?
because i'm considering getting the XXL version..
My brother has one of these, from what I've heard they're in general fairly good - but can become almost unbearable in winter months so think twice about it if you live a cold country.
hey man, thanks for your reply!
do you happen to know if the mousepad works well with an optical sensor? :)
No idea, sorry
RPM tracks great on the Hiro (silicone).
RPM tracks great on the Hiro (silicone).I mean I guess that's fine, if you like mediocre performance.
whoever has owned an aluminium pad: what's your opinion? do you like them for gaming?
and has anyone tried the alugraphics gamerPRO, specifically?
because i'm considering getting the XXL version..
What glass pad do you use?whoever has owned an aluminium pad: what's your opinion? do you like them for gaming?
and has anyone tried the alugraphics gamerPRO, specifically?
because i'm considering getting the XXL version..
a bit late for this but I have a Slamepad from ModMyMachine (german casemodders). it's one of my favourite pads to use, a little too small for me but really love the feel.
there's one thing that's not so great about it and that is that it eats mouse feet really fast.
but the control as well as "performance" of it, while still having fast glide, is absolutely fantastic.
it's not quite as nice as a good glass pad for my tastes, but I feel people who like control a little more might prefer it.
whoever has owned an aluminium pad: what's your opinion? do you like them for gaming?
and has anyone tried the alugraphics gamerPRO, specifically?
because i'm considering getting the XXL version..
a bit late for this but I have a Slamepad from ModMyMachine (german casemodders). it's one of my favourite pads to use, a little too small for me but really love the feel.
there's one thing that's not so great about it and that is that it eats mouse feet really fast.
but the control as well as "performance" of it, while still having fast glide, is absolutely fantastic.
it's not quite as nice as a good glass pad for my tastes, but I feel people who like control a little more might prefer it.
RPM tracks great on the Hiro (silicone).I mean I guess that's fine, if you like mediocre performance.
Excellent tracking rating under Enotus is mediocre?That rating means nothing. The only good thing enotus for is for testing true CPI and PCS.
whoever has owned an aluminium pad: what's your opinion? do you like them for gaming?
and has anyone tried the alugraphics gamerPRO, specifically?
because i'm considering getting the XXL version..
a bit late for this but I have a Slamepad from ModMyMachine (german casemodders). it's one of my favourite pads to use, a little too small for me but really love the feel.
there's one thing that's not so great about it and that is that it eats mouse feet really fast.
but the control as well as "performance" of it, while still having fast glide, is absolutely fantastic.
it's not quite as nice as a good glass pad for my tastes, but I feel people who like control a little more might prefer it.
hehe :D
i have such high hopes for my upcoming aluminium pad now :D
my ice mat is my favorite of alltime, but it's just too small for me (about 248x209 / 9.8"x8.2")
this week i'll be checking out a local glass shop to see if they can make a big one for me.
i have no idea what to ask them though, so i'll just bring mine to show them :D
what you should ask for is a "satin finish" frosted treatment (very finely textured, so no coating, real chemical frosting). and sanded down edges so it's not sharp.
then you just have to stick a matte black sheet of some sort under it to help with tracking.
I recommend getting as thin as possible for comfort reasons.
Excellent tracking rating under Enotus is mediocre?That rating means nothing. The only good thing enotus for is for testing true CPI and PCS.
I've used 3090, 3310, 3988 mice on cloth, plastic, glass, etc, pads, and they all perform and feel better on cloth. Anything other than cloth makes the cursor feel like it's moving through mud.
Low friction =/= good trackingExcellent tracking rating under Enotus is mediocre?That rating means nothing. The only good thing enotus for is for testing true CPI and PCS.
I've used 3090, 3310, 3988 mice on cloth, plastic, glass, etc, pads, and they all perform and feel better on cloth. Anything other than cloth makes the cursor feel like it's moving through mud.
Have you used a silicone pad? The movement on the Hiro is really low friction.
what you should ask for is a "satin finish" frosted treatment (very finely textured, so no coating, real chemical frosting). and sanded down edges so it's not sharp.
then you just have to stick a matte black sheet of some sort under it to help with tracking.
I recommend getting as thin as possible for comfort reasons.
cheers :)
any idea how you will handle the bottom?
because i was wondering how i'd stick something coloured onto the bottom..
my old I-1 i have here has a black bottom, but it's obviously printed on there (or something), or maybe painted or something.
but i don't really know how i'd get something on there as well as this was done :E
i'm sure that this 'glass shop' doesn't have any means of doing something like that.
what you should ask for is a "satin finish" frosted treatment (very finely textured, so no coating, real chemical frosting). and sanded down edges so it's not sharp.
then you just have to stick a matte black sheet of some sort under it to help with tracking.
I recommend getting as thin as possible for comfort reasons.
cheers :)
any idea how you will handle the bottom?
because i was wondering how i'd stick something coloured onto the bottom..
my old I-1 i have here has a black bottom, but it's obviously printed on there (or something), or maybe painted or something.
but i don't really know how i'd get something on there as well as this was done :E
i'm sure that this 'glass shop' doesn't have any means of doing something like that.
vinyl sticker sheet I was thinking... hopefully it isn't too glossy or anything.
I am sure the glass shop would know how to paint it if you would like to go that way. I'll do a little research on what the best material might be.
and 7Teku I'm not sure if you're a troll or what the deal is but... this is simply not true. cloth is not the best for tracking.
please show some actual data instead of these short posts, if you would like to prove a point (which Logitech's research team has disproven, the best surface is a finely textured black hard certain type of plastic apparently).
that some of the mousepads you have used did not work well with your mice is possible. and that multi-coloured ones of whichever plastic ones you used are bad is a known thing.
mice like single-coloured surfaces better.
that Enotus is not a good way to test tracking (nor is Mionix SQAT) is true though.
I believe you need a lot more extensive testing to really determine this, though.
and the Hiro might indeed not track very well due to a lot of colours on it.
what you should ask for is a "satin finish" frosted treatment (very finely textured, so no coating, real chemical frosting). and sanded down edges so it's not sharp.
then you just have to stick a matte black sheet of some sort under it to help with tracking.
I recommend getting as thin as possible for comfort reasons.
cheers :)
any idea how you will handle the bottom?
because i was wondering how i'd stick something coloured onto the bottom..
my old I-1 i have here has a black bottom, but it's obviously printed on there (or something), or maybe painted or something.
but i don't really know how i'd get something on there as well as this was done :E
i'm sure that this 'glass shop' doesn't have any means of doing something like that.
vinyl sticker sheet I was thinking... hopefully it isn't too glossy or anything.
I am sure the glass shop would know how to paint it if you would like to go that way. I'll do a little research on what the best material might be.
and 7Teku I'm not sure if you're a troll or what the deal is but... this is simply not true. cloth is not the best for tracking.
please show some actual data instead of these short posts, if you would like to prove a point (which Logitech's research team has disproven, the best surface is a finely textured black hard certain type of plastic apparently).
that some of the mousepads you have used did not work well with your mice is possible. and that multi-coloured ones of whichever plastic ones you used are bad is a known thing.
mice like single-coloured surfaces better.
that Enotus is not a good way to test tracking (nor is Mionix SQAT) is true though.
I believe you need a lot more extensive testing to really determine this, though.
and the Hiro might indeed not track very well due to a lot of colours on it.
The Hiro is all black except for the logo in the bottom right.
http://www.roccat.org/img_18975_5_796_400.jpg
I love the surface but my only complaint is that its a little too small for CS so I'm using a PureTrak talent right now instead. If my lack of interest in playing CS continues I'll probably switch back to the Hiro.
vinyl sticker sheet I was thinking... hopefully it isn't too glossy or anything.
I am sure the glass shop would know how to paint it if you would like to go that way. I'll do a little research on what the best material might be.
oh! my bad then. I must have confused it with their other offerings.
interesting. it is indeed a little small, but I do want to try it now. :p
so i've recieved my first aluminium pad today (alugraphics gamerpro xxl), and i'm really (really) liking it.
it has great control, yet a very unrestricted/smooth slide. (i currently use tiger gaming teflon mouse feet.)
right now, i feel like i'm getting even better control than i get on a frosted glass pad. (can't say for sure of course, after just a few hours.)
the pad was pretty expensive, but if it lasts for at least a year, it'll have been worth it, easily.
and i'd bet that not many people realise this, but thickness can matter such a great deal!
this pad is only .8mm thick, and only now do i realise how obstructing that 3mm/4mm bump actually is (to me),
so that's definitely a nice bonus.vinyl sticker sheet I was thinking... hopefully it isn't too glossy or anything.
I am sure the glass shop would know how to paint it if you would like to go that way. I'll do a little research on what the best material might be.
"would like to go that way" - well, i just want something that lasts, and works well(!) :)
if it could be professionally painted (or whatever), it'd probably work better than when i'd try to do something myself.
so i'd appreciate your thoughts/conclusions on this, because i still want to order that glass pad :)oh! my bad then. I must have confused it with their other offerings.
interesting. it is indeed a little small, but I do want to try it now. :p
i was thinking the same thing :D
but i'll probably refrain from getting it, simply because i know it'll be rather small (for me).
and 7Teku I'm not sure if you're a troll or what the deal is but... this is simply not true. cloth is not the best for tracking.In my experience, every mouse that I've tried on a hard pad (hard cloth is fine), icemat, destructor, g440, etc, all feels like it has swamp cursor. For me, the PCS has been higher in every test I've done on cloth pads.
please show some actual data instead of these short posts, if you would like to prove a point (which Logitech's research team has disproven, the best surface is a finely textured black hard certain type of plastic apparently).
and 7Teku I'm not sure if you're a troll or what the deal is but... this is simply not true. cloth is not the best for tracking.In my experience, every mouse that I've tried on a hard pad (hard cloth is fine), icemat, destructor, g440, etc, all feels like it has swamp cursor. For me, the PCS has been higher in every test I've done on cloth pads.
please show some actual data instead of these short posts, if you would like to prove a point (which Logitech's research team has disproven, the best surface is a finely textured black hard certain type of plastic apparently).
well then I'm not sure what that could be because of. there should be no difference in input lag at all, and black hard plastic pads have been shown to be the better for tracking.I didn't say that there was a difference in input lag. What I meant by swamp cursor is that it's a feeling similar to a mouse with a ton of smoothing. e.g. It doesn't feel as precise as it should, like an MLT04 mouse vs a 3050/some 3090 mice.
are you sure you're not talking about the physical feel, like it feels slower because your arm requires more force to stop the mouse? I can't think of any other reason.
PCS I can't answer for since I'm not entirely sure how that works, and I don't really compare it too much since I'm fine with under 3m/sec. but cloth pads tend to get really good PCS as well.
great control is indeed how I would describe it. noticeably better than a glass pad. I still prefer glass but... mostly for glide feel.
I do hope it will last a few years. I'm not 100% sure how the alugraphics pads are made, but if it's hard anodized, it should last a veryyyyy long time.
just hope you have a set of feet to replace with every 2-3 months or so :p
I'll let you know what I find out! although, not going to have mine in another month or so.
but you have your alugraphics for now ;)
well then I'm not sure what that could be because of. there should be no difference in input lag at all, and black hard plastic pads have been shown to be the better for tracking.I didn't say that there was a difference in input lag. What I meant by swamp cursor is that it's a feeling similar to a mouse with a ton of smoothing. e.g. It doesn't feel as precise as it should, like an MLT04 mouse vs a 3050/some 3090 mice.
are you sure you're not talking about the physical feel, like it feels slower because your arm requires more force to stop the mouse? I can't think of any other reason.
PCS I can't answer for since I'm not entirely sure how that works, and I don't really compare it too much since I'm fine with under 3m/sec. but cloth pads tend to get really good PCS as well.
I know cloth pads get really good PCS, that's the main reason why I praise them. I consistently play at ~4 m/s and non-cloth pads always cause my mouse to skip and malfunction. If I use the same mouse on a cloth pad, I won't be able to surpass the max tracking speed.
great control is indeed how I would describe it. noticeably better than a glass pad. I still prefer glass but... mostly for glide feel.
I do hope it will last a few years. I'm not 100% sure how the alugraphics pads are made, but if it's hard anodized, it should last a veryyyyy long time.
just hope you have a set of feet to replace with every 2-3 months or so :p
I'll let you know what I find out! although, not going to have mine in another month or so.
but you have your alugraphics for now ;)
you weren't kidding; my skates are bleeding material :D
unfortunately it makes my mouse spaz out from time to time when flicking in games :<
I really like SteelSeries' QcK Mass mousepads... I have three of them on my desk. I really wish the made one that was three to four times wider so I could set everything on one surface.
perixx dx-1000 xxl. superb mousemat and exudes quality. only gripe is the thick weave holds on to a lot of dust and random particles, but this is more a sign of its good design than anything.
i would get an artisan hayate but i don't like the lack of non-fray stitching.
any owners of a FUNC pad here?
what's your opinion on it?
new Artisan hayate released, supposedly more wear-resistant and doesn't get dust stuck in it as easily according to users:
http://www.artisan-jp.com/item_hayate_z_soft_eng.html
only SOFT version out so far, but they say April for the MID and XSOFT versions.
new Artisan hayate released, supposedly more wear-resistant and doesn't get dust stuck in it as easily according to users:
http://www.artisan-jp.com/item_hayate_z_soft_eng.html
only SOFT version out so far, but they say April for the MID and XSOFT versions.
I received mine a little while ago and it's been a pleasure to use it so far :) I've had the OG hayate soft and the zero xsoft, but I prefer the hayate otsu over both of them, no doubt
So I'm looking at a Artisan mousepad, or an XXL of QcK or other make.
I've been really liking having my keyboard on my mousepad as it seems to soften the keystrokes and also provides some cushion for the hands.
But maybe I can find other things to put under my keyboard, so I don't have to get an XXL. Hm...
So I'm looking at a Artisan mousepad, or an XXL of QcK or other make.
I've been really liking having my keyboard on my mousepad as it seems to soften the keystrokes and also provides some cushion for the hands.
But maybe I can find other things to put under my keyboard, so I don't have to get an XXL. Hm...
artisans > QcK, for realz
you could put a tekmat or something under your keyboard
Trying to decide between a Artisan Shiden Kai or Roccat Hiro 3D.
Which one is more durable? Which one is more sweat resistant and easier to clean?
Thanks :)
Really impressed by and liking my Icemat 2nd edition glass mousepad.
Really impressed by and liking my Icemat 2nd edition glass mousepad.
I see a similar pad on eBay from Korea called Maxtill G-pad. Thinking of grabbing a white one.
Really impressed by and liking my Icemat 2nd edition glass mousepad.
I see a similar pad on eBay from Korea called Maxtill G-pad. Thinking of grabbing a white one.
I'm probably going to buy another Icemat from ebay when I see a reasonably priced one in good condition so I have a spare just in case. This pad is just amazing. I wish I'd gotten one sooner.
You guys and your small mouse "pads". Get on Mstarrs level and get a mouse slab, made by me.
http://imgur.com/a/4zzqB#0
You guys and your small mouse "pads". Get on Mstarrs level and get a mouse slab, made by me.
http://imgur.com/a/4zzqB#0
Usually I'll go big on purchases for the most premium, top of the line stuff, but $250 for a mousepad is really pushing it :P
Also, not frosted glass.
You guys and your small mouse "pads". Get on Mstarrs level and get a mouse slab, made by me.
http://imgur.com/a/4zzqB#0
Usually I'll go big on purchases for the most premium, top of the line stuff, but $250 for a mousepad is really pushing it :P
Also, not frosted glass.
this!
You guys and your small mouse "pads". Get on Mstarrs level and get a mouse slab, made by me.
http://imgur.com/a/4zzqB#0
Usually I'll go big on purchases for the most premium, top of the line stuff, but $250 for a mousepad is really pushing it :P
Also, not frosted glass.
this!
Look up the properties of cerokote, it is stupid low friction, will never wear out in this application. Mstarr says though that some of the cheap crap sensors won't track on it though. He keeps saying that he is going g to post an official review though.
Half the cost was buying a slab of aluminum that big, his pad is 18"x24" and 1/8" thick of 6061 T6. Plus it is 3 square feet to be coated and can't hang during curig or painting due to no holes to hang from. The cost of cost me 107 to have done. Smaller pads won't be near as expensive though.
He told me that it will be the last mousing surface hr needs to buy, unless he has me make him a smaller one. He said due to the texture, it tears up mouse feet, so he is using a type of felt skate I guess.