Simple but high quality mouse

[naxtek]

I've just bought a Filco Ninja Majestouch-2 and now I'm looking for a decent mouse to match.  I'd like it to embody the same qualities I like about high-end mechanical keyboards.  Here's what I like about the Filco:

• It's a high quality product
• It's nice to use
• It is simple and smart - it looks like a keyboard (no silly rows of extra buttons or coloured flashes) and the Ninja keys add a bit of minimalist cool

Can anyone recommend a mouse with those qualities?  Most of the ones I've found are some of those things but not all.  There are plenty of high quality products but the makers seem to feel the need to add lights or pictures of tribal patterns or scorpions, or to make it look like the Batmobile - that's just not my thing.  There are plenty of simple/elegant mice - but they tend to be at the low end of the market with poor tracking and build quality.

I quite liked the look of the SteelSeries Sensei Raw in Rubberised finish - but it has a couple of flaws IMHO: apparently the PTFE feet aren't great, it has a massive logo on it and it does light up (although it's not the most offensive I've seen).  Do I have any other options?

[nereme]

I have the older sensei which does not have the rubberized finish and i love it. the light while it can be garish is really easy to change to the colour to something more suiting to you needs with the Steelseries software also with the sensi i am usually covering the logo some what when using it so that helps.

If not take off the shell paint the inside and re build

[naxtek]

Thanks, that's useful.

I'm guessing the software won't run on Ubuntu so I'm a bit limited in terms of changing it?

[davkol]

AFAIK Roccat are the only well-supported mice on GNU/Linux. Their lights can be turned off and there's no visible branding on my savu except engraved logo on the right button. See my review at Deskthority.

[Novus]

I think Zowie might be good for you

[vun]

Will it be used for gaming? I think the Logitech Performance MX(I think that's the name) would be one of the better matches for a Filco.

You might want to look at Zowie as well, those are fairly understated.

[ferociousfingerings]

...or to make it look like the Batmobile...

lol g700...

[nuclearsandwich]

I really enjoy the Zowie mice for their simplicity. The Zowie FK feels like my fingertips are being hugged by pillows. The Zowie evo mice are nice too and aren't ambidextrous.

The Razer Abyssus is also pretty cheap and simple but it doesn't feel nearly as nice to me.

[naxtek]

Thanks for all your advice.

Not a gamer.  I'm a programmer though so I spend a lot of time using these peripherals.

[naxtek]

Just doing some searching and this typifies what I hate in a mouse:



WTF?!

[davkol]

Well, it's adjustable, hence quite comfortable.

[dustinhxc]

Im going for the Zowie Evo EC1

[vun]

What about a trackball?

[naxtek]

Okay, thanks for all your input & suggestions - it's been very helpful.

I think I've narrowed it down to 2:

Roccat Savu or Zowie FK.

Both have their pros and cons.  The Zowie website is terrible... it's really hard to find out info about their products!

[davkol]

You don't look for info at vendor's website, you browse forums like OCN.

[Lain1911]

I like G500.

[dustinhxc]

Ooo never looked at the FK... hmm dont like that yellow. Wish it was orange!

[Lighthouse1]

Another shout for  Roccat. I use a Roccat Kone Pure, it might not suit if you have big hands as it is on the smallish side (which is why I bought it) but its a great little rodent. It does have a logo light..you can just turn it off. I use a red one (too flashy probably) but they come in black as below. It feels very smooth in the hand. I used to be a DA fan until I got the new one and it was getting red hot under the logo light and making my hand sweat (I don't have sweaty hands, it was uncomfortably warm) so I switched to this and I wish I had done it ages ago. I am a dev and bought one for work too.

http://www.roccat.org/Products/Gaming-Mice/ROCCAT-Kone-Pure/

[dustinhxc]

Another shout for  Roccat. I use a Roccat Kone Pure, it might not suit if you have big hands as it is on the smallish side (which is why I bought it) but its a great little rodent. It does have a logo light..you can just turn it off. I use a red one (too flashy probably) but they come in black as below. It feels very smooth in the hand. I used to be a DA fan until I got the new one and it was getting red hot under the logo light and making my hand sweat (I don't have sweaty hands, it was uncomfortably warm) so I switched to this and I wish I had done it ages ago. I am a dev and bought one for work too.

http://www.roccat.org/Products/Gaming-Mice/ROCCAT-Kone-Pure/

Whoa, I like that cat... Wish the stupid buttons wernt below the scroll arg. I love simple mouses. That cat image is sick though..

[ideus]

Just doing some searching and this typifies what I hate in a mouse:

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WTF?!

It was called the RAT for a reason.

[Grim Fandango]

OP , check out this thread http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=53945.0
Maybe it will be of use

Ooo never looked at the FK... hmm dont like that yellow. Wish it was orange!

If you are looking for a decent mouse with that color scheme, perhaps the Kana V2 is a good option.

[dustinhxc]

OP , check out this thread http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=53945.0
Maybe it will be of use

Ooo never looked at the FK... hmm dont like that yellow. Wish it was orange!

If you are looking for a decent mouse with that color scheme, perhaps the Kana V2 is a good option.

Whoa, the orange looks fantastic on that! Thanks!

[zig_ziglar]

Kana is a good mouse. If you have average sized hands, the shape is more comfortable than you'd imagine by looking at it.

[pr1me]

Kone pure optical!!
A great mouse!

[Protato_Tubby]

An option that is a bit LED-ey but that none-the-less looks classy, is the Mionix Naos 8200. It is a very good mouse also.

[daerid]

Go with Zowie. No software to hassle with. Great sensors

[divito]

Not exactly "high quality" but MS 3.0 gets my vote. I've already bought a back-up and will probably buy a few more in case they disappear again.

[mkawa]

cm storm xornet? same outline as the spawn, but slightly lower cpi.

anyway, mouse fit is highly personal. one of the brilliant things that razor figured out and worked successfully to the nth in their marketing. for example, i love my spawn, and when cptbadass visited, he loved it so much he bought two. however, i mention it to some people (tj, for example), and they hate the fit. so it's really a "find a place to try a bunch out" sort of thing. good simple mice are pretty expensive though. so if you can narrow it down to like 2-3, you can just buy and try them and sell the ones you don't like.

[zig_ziglar]

I don't have the Kone, but I have the Pyra and I can attest to the quality and intelligence that is behind Roccat products.

[Vibex]

I'd go for a Zowie FK, or something similar. Also, the RAT series of mice are not that bad. They are way overbuilt, but they are the most comfortable mice I have ever used. If they could fix the sensor problems, I'd probably buy another.

[Dyslexic]

If you need a driver agnostic mouse you should probably consider a Zowie as mentioned above. I have an EC2 EVO and it's a lovely mouse, the best part being that there is absolutely zero requirement for drivers. Plug and play with 3 dpi settings and polling rate can be changed while plugging the mouse in by holding down the thumb buttons.

[Nixietube]

get a logitech g400. it looks simple, it is a great mouse and it has no frills and bows

[Bucake]

I think I've narrowed it down to 2:

Roccat Savu or Zowie FK.

Both have their pros and cons.  The Zowie website is terrible... it's really hard to find out info about their products!

TLDR: zowie fk or logitech g400/g400s.
(i have also read great things about the razer deathadder 2013 and steelseries kana v2.)

..i vouch for the zowie fk. i own one.
i also own a logitech g400, another mouse i vouch for.

both mice use the best optical sensor and have no acceleration.
both mice do not need drivers (although they are available for the g400).
both mice have buttons to change the dpi on-the-fly with.

which one you'd like more just depends on your preference of shape/size, weight/weightdistrubution, materials, switches and scroller.
unfortunately you're have to guess which one that would be.
the switches used in the g400 tend to be more universally liked, but the g400 has a relatively weak cable. the g400s is supposed to have a less weaker cable than the g400.

extra info:

Zowie FK:
Zowie FK (true) DPI steps: 450 = 477, 1150 = 1188, 2300 = 2386
Zowie FK native DPI step: 2300(2386)
Zowie FK default polling rate: 1000hz
Zowie FK uses Huano switches.
Zowie FK has a slightly lower lift-off-distance (thus the weird 'true DPI steps').

you can change the polling rate on the zowie FK on-the-fly by (unplugging it and then) plugging it in while holding a specific button (combination).
- hold front (left) side button: 1000hz
- hold back (left) side button: 500hz
- hold back (left) and front (left) side button: 125hz

G400:
G400 DPI steps: 400, 800, 1800, 3600
G400 native DPI steps: 800 and 3600
G400 default polling rate: 1000hz
G400 uses Omron switches.

there's a newer version of the g400; the g400s. i presume the g400s is just as good as the g400 but i haven't looked up the specifics on it. i think the only real change is the last DPI setting is 3600 on the g400 and 4000 on the g400s.

bonus info on the g400:
angle snapping(prediction) on the g400 snapping was removed as of PID LZ13333.
any g400 that has a full serial number and not a PID has angle snapping disabled.
any g400s has angle snapping disabled.

edit: i probably have already given alot more info than you wanted, but feel free to ask me if there's anything else you'd like to know about either of these mice :j

[PolaBurrr]

I own the kana v2 and xai, owned zowie fk and ec1 evo and deathadder. I could not get over the deathadder smoothing. Makes it feels like your mouse cursor is sliding on ice, and has slight delay in changing directions. The fk was an excellent mouse, except it was a tad bit too low at the hump, so I was not 100% comfortable with it. The ec1 evo was better than the deathadder imo, but it was harder to pick up with dry hands as the right side of the mouse was quite slanted \, so my pinky and ring finger would slight up. The kana v2 has the best tracking performance imo (given that you use the tape trick), because it is more flexible with dpi settings than the zowie mice and lets me use my preferred 800 dpi. However, the size is a hair, and I really mean a hair, too small for my "perfect" size, so I use my xai for everyday tasks and homework, and take out my kana v2 when I am about to do some serious esea cs:go If only steelseries would come out with an ambidextrous mouse the size of the Xai, but with the adns3090 sensor, that would be my optimal mouse.

[blackbox]

get a logitech g400. it looks simple, it is a great mouse and it has no frills and bows

Agreed, simple and solid buildt mouse. I have an mx510 (I have also tested the g400). Had it for a long time (7 years or so) and It still works like it was new.