my 7bit Phantom Custom Keyboard Custom Layout - default layer (http://tinyurl.com/6to699d)
my 7bit Phantom Custom Keyboard Custom Layout - Fn layer 1 (MB = Mouse Button) (http://tinyurl.com/7gq3q3f)
my 7bit Phantom Custom Keyboard Custom Layout - Fn layer 2 (http://tinyurl.com/7dxem26)
I have updated the layouts (layers 2 and 3 will be toggle able):
Default Layer (http://tinyurl.com/7n8laz9)
Layer 1 (http://tinyurl.com/7htjctf)
Layer 2 (http://tinyurl.com/6o27ude)
Layer 3 (http://tinyurl.com/7yclh33)
The black boxes are what I still need help figuring out a use for, all help is appreciated!
Here are the changes that I horribly described:
Default Layer (http://tinyurl.com/c7pzws6)
Layer 1 (http://tinyurl.com/bq7q68c)
Layer 2 (http://tinyurl.com/coclqu3)
Layer 3 (http://tinyurl.com/bwanumx)
And yes I still havent decided on the keys with the black boxes I just cant think of anything that makes sense.
Since the layout has changed I converted the old one to the new one. I will update it again soon since there are additional keys open. I am still looking for suggestions for the spacebar keys.
Default Layer (http://tinyurl.com/83g8sje)
Layer 1 (http://tinyurl.com/83g8sje)
Layer 2 (http://tinyurl.com/75vpxo4)
Layer 3 (http://tinyurl.com/7m253eb)
Hmm, that numpad embedded in the arrow keys was what I was thinking when i saw 7bit's layout. I want keycaps that have the appropriate keys for each fn layer now :/ Probably too customizable.I might switch the layuou t so that it is default the the fn layer make it the numpad and HHKB style would you be up for that im trying to get a few people to try an get custom caps with Fn legends
I would have the numpad on the second layer and not the primary layer though. Thats what is so cool about the teensy though, you can just reflash it when you think of new layouts.
my 7bit Phantom Custom Keyboard Custom Layout - default layerI have question about how you plan on getting the keycaps for your new keyboard layout. If you are going for all same profile keys then it should be very easy, but if you are going for sculpted keys I think you might run into a few problems with the right side 1.75 size shift key (same size as capslock, but different sculpted shape) and the bottom row 8x1.5 size keys (same as tab and \, but different sculpted shape) and lastly the 1.25 size enter key (same size as the win/ctrl/alt, but different sculpted shape.) That was the very thing that made me change my mind about changing the size of the right shift key for my design. Although for the bottom row you could change the 1.5 keys with 1.25 and get an extra 2 keys in there. 8x1.25 = 10 and 5x1 keys. Also it would be easier to find 1.25 size keys since that is the default win/ctrl/alt than a custom 1.5 sculpted key (just giving advice as it would save money and allow even more keys on the bottom row.) Remember every row has a total of 15x1 keys that can fit.Show Image(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v519/TheProfosist/atHome/7bitCustomTEMP2.png)
1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 2
1.5 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1.5
1.75 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 2.25
2.25 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 2.75
1.25 1.25 1.25 6.25 1.25 1.25 1.25 1.25
I have question about how you plan on getting the keycaps for your new keyboard layout.
Round 4.Wouldn't that still require extra keys that may or may not be easy to obtain?
7bit's layout is based on the Phantom PCB which main goal was to be able to use vintage Cherry double shot keycaps with 1.5u ctrl and alt.
Wouldn't that still require extra keys that may or may not be easy to obtain?
...Show Image(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v519/TheProfosist/atHome/7bitCustomTEMP3.png)
The black boxes are what I still need help figuring out a use for, all help is appreciated!
Wouldn't that still require extra keys that may or may not be easy to obtain?
What about Super and Hyper modifiers.I know for myself personally I use the C and V side when I am playing a FPS but when I am typing I use the N and M side. So that actually might be exactly what they are looking for.
I would put |\ down left of RETURN and use the |\-position for something else.
I use the DELETE key on the numpad, so I like to have DELETE in the bottom row.
About the space bar:
You should look at your spacebar where it is shiny. Just make that single switch where you usually press SPACE the space bar. For me, it is somewhere under C and V.
What about Super and Hyper modifiers.I couldnt find anything on super and hyper. I do know that super is sometimes substituted for win but thats about it.
I would put |\ down left of RETURN and use the |\-position for something else.
I use the DELETE key on the numpad, so I like to have DELETE in the bottom row.
About the space bar:
You should look at your spacebar where it is shiny. Just make that single switch where you usually press SPACE the space bar. For me, it is somewhere under C and V.
I know for myself personally I use the C and V side when I am playing a FPS but when I am typing I use the N and M side. So that actually might be exactly what they are looking for.I do something similar when I use my thumbs to hit the space bar otherwise I hit right under B with my right index finger.
I couldnt find anything on super and hyper. I do know that super is sometimes substituted for win but thats about it.
Moving the |\ key makes some seance and might be viable. The only reason that i put it where it is now is because that is where it is on a HHKB. if I did move it what would you suggest I put where it was? The other keys that I dont have a problem moving are PrtSc, ScrLk, and Pause but I need to think of useful function s to put there. Based off the Realforce number pad I could put Esc, Tab, and = (in that order). The i would make the key left to Del PrtSc. ScrLk and Pause would be moved down to Layer 1 and I would adjust the Fn keys (possible Fn + 1, 2, 3 would lock the corresponding layer).
As for the space bar I did some checking and I hit space mostly right where I put the two order space bars but sometime I hit it right under B thats why I have all 3 space. This does correlate with the spots that my HHKB's spacebar is shiny.
Interesting.. Myself, I think that I would get uncomfortable with thewell there will probably be some adjusting that for sure as this is by no means a standard layout.key being so far away and the bar not being bulbous on top.
I am still looking for suggestions for the spacebar keys.Why do you have three small space keys instead of one 4u space bar?
Why do you have three small space keys instead of one 4u space bar?because there are switches there on the original 7bit layout. Also I did find uses for the black keys their going to be mechanically toggleable Fn keys for layers 2 and 3. Layer 3 may also be changing as if toggled on you would have no arrow keys since you can only have one layer active at a time.
This is a sweet project. I was planning to get a regular ANSI Phantom, but I think I'm going to have to go with a 7bit. Some of the extra keys for me will definitely be mouse buttons.
Have you figured out what keycaps you're getting from R4 yet?
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I modified the layout a bit so that I could use keycaps from WASD. The only down side is that there is a small gap on the right and left side of the bottom row and the Enter key has to be a R1 key. I personally can make these compromises because I want custom legends of my layout. A new revision of my layout is hopefully soon to follow along with a template for WASD.Show Image(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v519/TheProfosist/atHome/7bitWASD2.png)
What lengths were keys on the bottom row before?that is the old one this is the new one though you still have to use a R1 1x1.25 for enter
that is the old one this is the new one though you still have to use a R1 1x1.25 for enterShow Image(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v519/TheProfosist/atHome/7bitWASD2.png)
Yeah I know, you were too fast for my edit. :)no i tried it out for my self the only extra space would be that little bit on the 2 sides. I am putting the key caps right were the old ones were and the spacing works out as all the key caps are centered. The total width can also be a max of 15 and this ends up being 14.75. I can guarantee that 3-1x1.25 fit in the area of 2-1.50 and 1-1x1 with 0.125 on each side. Increasing the other 2-1x1.5 to 1x1.75 adds 0.125 on each side thus taking up the room between the groups of 3-1x1.25 leaving only 0.125 on the right and left of the bottom row.
Won't the keys in the new layout shrink toward their centers, relative to the old layout? (As opposed to how you have it here with the extra space on the ends.)