Preface
We are establishing our relationship with GMK Electronics as a community, rather than a vendor. At the moment, I am acting as the single point of contact (with lysol's technical expertise at my hand) as a means of effectively communicating with GMK.
While it's understandable that many of you would like to begin running GBs or custom keys with them, they are extremely busy at this moment producing orders for individual retailers, industrial manufacturers and whoever else out there that has a lot of capital. Our goal here is to understand the process more than anything and contribute that knowledge to our future GB leaders.
With that being said, GMK has still found room in their busy schedule to make time allocations for our community. The caveat here is that they can only produce certain items. These items include novelty keys, modifier sets, and smaller things like that. Given the time constraints, this project is going to be managed and micromanaged as much as we can.
TL;DR: Be nice, be prompt and be aware. We don’t have time to dilly dally, so choose your colors and pay your invoice within 48 hours after the GB closes.
Objective
We are gathering your opinions on color combinations for the specific sets below and nothing else. We have designated the 4 products that will be commissioned to GMK for production.
*Full set discussions will take place AFTER this poll has completed. Please do not discuss in here*
Voting on Keycap Sets
We will be voting on colors and deciding a SINGLE color variant for each set, except the CMYK set. For example, if the highest rated color for the modifier kits was Purple, the only modifier set you can buy in the GB is Purple.
Voting:
1.Esc Bundle: Top 3 colors variations will be chosen.
2.Modifier Pack: 1 color variation will be chosen.
3.CMY-K Pack: No color voting.
4.Number Row Pack: 1 color variation will be chosen.
Click the link below to vote for colors
VOTING ENDED
*Green color is AE. Thanks hashbaz for mockups =)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/RpeJX.png)
Color SamplesShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/rMhlf.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/9JvqK.jpg)
What's in the sets
Esc Bundle: You’ll get a pack of three (3) Esc keycaps in the nominated colors.Modifier Pack (textless legends): Full modifier set that should please Moogle and Tsangan set users. Does NOT include spacebar.
- 3x Esc Keycaps
CMY-K Pack (textless legends): Similar to the RGB sets, these will correspond as described below with black legends, no text.
- Shift (4 keys): 1.25, 1.75, 2.25, 2.75
- Ctrl (6 keys; 2x each): 1.0, 1.25, 1.5
- Alt (6 keys; 2x each): 1.0, 1.25, 1.5
- Windows (4 keys; 2x each): 1.0, 1.25
- Menu (2 keys; all blanks): 1.0 blank, 1.25
- Tab (1 key): 1.5
- Caps Lock (2 keys): Stepped, Full-touch
- Enter (2 keys): ANSI 2.25, ISO
- Backspace (1 key): 2.0
- Fn (3 keys; all blanks): 1.0, 1.25, 1.5
- Shift – Yellow (4 keys): 1.25, 1.75, 2.25, 2.75
- Ctrl – Magenta (6 keys; 2x each): 1.0. 1.25, 1.5
- Alt – Cyan (6 keys; 2x each): 1.0, 1.25, 1.5
Number Row Pack: From the tilde to the plus, similar to the original RA experimental set number row keys.
*7x Spacebars: If we offer this, they will only be available in beige, black and Dolch grey.
Price and MOQ
We don’t have pricing and MOQ for full sets yet, but we plan to inquire about it in the next couple weeks.
In order for us to receive a quote, we had to give sample colors because prices do deviate depending how easily they can get the colors. We primarily chose either green, purple or brown for starters based on their original samples and feedback from the thread. Of course, these are subject to change based on the polling but that shouldn’t deviate the price to any significant degree per set.
Esc Bundle (3x Esc keycaps)Modifier Pack (31 keycaps, different sizes)
- Quoted Colors: Green, Purple, Brown with White Legends
- MOQ: 500 sets (i.e. 1500 keycaps)
- Price: $5.76 per set
CMY-K Pack (16 keycaps, different sizes)
- Quoted Colors: Purple, Brown with White Legends
- MOQ: 400 sets
- Price: $23.68 per set for either color
Number Row Pack (13 keycaps)
- Quoted Colors: Cyan, Magenta, Yellow with Black Legends
- MOQ: 400 sets
- Price: Unknown at the moment. There was confusion around what we wanted here so a new quote for this should be available tomorrow.
7x Spacebars
- Quoted Colors: Purple, Brown with White Legends
- MOQ: 400 sets
- Price: $15.50 per set for either color
- Quoted Colors: Beige, Black, Dolch Grey
- MOQ: N/A. No quote yet.
- Price: N/A. No quote yet.
So by White/green do you mean white with a green legend, or white legend on a green keycap?
Thanks and awesome! Form filled.So by White/green do you mean white with a green legend, or white legend on a green keycap?
The latter. Its white legend on green keycap
so are these prices exactly what GMK quoted you? that would mean shipping to the US, US taxes, and individual shipping wouldn't be included.
The green color is AE btw...updating post
Voted. In for one of each color of the 7x space bars.Ditto....voted and want 7x space bars.
Those are the only colors available? If so, why bother with moogle kits? They'll match nothing.It's not a moogle kit, but a modifier kit. You can match it to something else.
If you didn't vote [for purple] you are a communist.
LOL - In Soviet Russia, keyboard types you!FTFY
Still laying in bed but I'll update results thus far later.
Regarding the modifier set, there arent any standard colors because we believe industrial manufacturers and other retailers will be releasing full sets in original colors. Either that will happen or a future gb on GH will include those mods as part of an original full set.
The modifier pack isnt intended to be a true moogle kit or tsangan kit, but more a holistic unique modifier pack to fit the same profile as your existing sets.
Probably because there was just a cherry profile PBT dyesub groupbuy so a bunch of people already got caps with black legends recently. I'm sure there will be black legends in the future =D.Still laying in bed but I'll update results thus far later.
Regarding the modifier set, there arent any standard colors because we believe industrial manufacturers and other retailers will be releasing full sets in original colors. Either that will happen or a future gb on GH will include those mods as part of an original full set.
The modifier pack isnt intended to be a true moogle kit or tsangan kit, but more a holistic unique modifier pack to fit the same profile as your existing sets.
I hope black on red isn't a "standard" color! I really want to buy anything that will have a black legend, and none of the options in the poll had that Q_Q
<3 Dan.
Cheers,
Working on mock ups, of course someone can feel free to beat me to it. I meant to get them done yesterday, but kept getting sidetrack.
GMK must have the pantone codes for each colour,
If you could manage to get them that would help a lot imho :)
GMK must have the pantone codes for each colour,
If you could manage to get them that would help a lot imho :)
Right now all their codes and color samples and stuff are filed into decades of folders, unarchived, unorganized, etc. They're working on getting a digital representation of all their documentation including legends and colors. We've been promised all that information =) I just don't think it'll come soon enough...
Especially 'dat
Please refrain from ballet stuffing...
Get your votes in for purple. Voting ends Tuesday
Get your votes in for purple. Voting ends Tuesday
FTFY
What legends will be used for the mods??
I prefer symbols only over symbols + text.
AFAIK, we haven't discussed this so far but already polling on the colours on legends we don't know how they look?
I think symbols only just look so much better.
Backspace symbol, also used in Round4, IIRC.Show Image(http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp349/lysol8086/DSC01646_zps26a23fbd.jpg)
Photo from lysol.
GMC, all those legend exist for sure from Cherry. I have never seen US Intl exactly of Cherry, but I do own US set with all the Spanish specific ones as dual legend both doubleshot no pad print.
That was my thinking, but to do without pad print would make the legends all the same colour, though the position tells you the modifier keystrokes and I'd prefer all doubleshot if molds exist.GMC, all those legend exist for sure from Cherry. I have never seen US Intl exactly of Cherry, but I do own US set with all the Spanish specific ones as dual legend both doubleshot no pad print.
Are the both legends in different colors? I mean, this could be really an alternative to met MOQ issues.
EDIT: Also, honest question. When you buy the pack you also get all the other variations (Tsangan, Moogle etc) that will not fit your keyboard? So you'd have to keep all the other ones even though you just need one? I'm just trying to clarify because it seems that would make the GB more expensive for the buyer. No offense.
EDIT: Also, honest question. When you buy the pack you also get all the other variations (Tsangan, Moogle etc) that will not fit your keyboard? So you'd have to keep all the other ones even though you just need one? I'm just trying to clarify because it seems that would make the GB more expensive for the buyer. No offense.
Yes it will include things that will not fit your keyboard. The extra cost should not be significant. But it means that Euro/Int or people with different layouts will be able to join the GB too and finally have the right keys for their layout. It would also mean the MOQ would be more easily met. The aim of this GB is to be inclusive of everyone.
EDIT: Also, honest question. When you buy the pack you also get all the other variations (Tsangan, Moogle etc) that will not fit your keyboard? So you'd have to keep all the other ones even though you just need one? I'm just trying to clarify because it seems that would make the GB more expensive for the buyer. No offense.
Yes it will include things that will not fit your keyboard. The extra cost should not be significant. But it means that Euro/Int or people with different layouts will be able to join the GB too and finally have the right keys for their layout. It would also mean the MOQ would be more easily met. The aim of this GB is to be inclusive of everyone.
Yeah, fair point. It makes sense, specially if it doesn't increase the cost by much. I can imagine the most uncommon keys being sold (or even donated) a lot on the classifieds forum too. I imagine if they'll have much value.
NEED MOAR PURPLE
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NEED MOAR PURPLE
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NEED MOAR PURPLE
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I didn't vote for the purple (or yellow, as that was not one of the top choices), but I have to admit that mockup looks nice :)
Brown on a white set doesn't look so hot due to the remaining grey keys. I think it shows the potential of a full Coffee & Cream set though...Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/XE1Xa.png)
NEED MOAR PURPLE
(http://i.imgur.com/RpeJX.png) (http://i.imgur.com/RpeJX.png)
Brown on a white set doesn't look so hot due to the remaining grey keys. I think it shows the potential of a full Coffee & Cream set though...Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/XE1Xa.png)
imo that looks like hot ****
Brown on a white set doesn't look so hot due to the remaining grey keys. I think it shows the potential of a full Coffee & Cream set though...Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/XE1Xa.png)
imo that looks like hot ****
I like this set though.
should be white legends on the brown keys, right?Actually, yeah, I think it would be nicer with white ones.
Vote Brown! Even with other keys on the board, with ISO it will look even better with alpha keys full surrounded by the mod colour due to not having the odd backslash key
Ahhh. From the initial buzz I thought (mistakenly) that we would be trying to (initially) use GMK to resurrect the original OEM Cherry keys/layouts
CMY-K Pack (textless legends): Similar to the RGB sets, these will correspond as described below with black legends, no text.
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So that means only arrow legend on shifts?
But how about Control and Alt?
Patience might pay off here. I think we can expect to see some favorite sets reborn real soon without the aid of a Groupbuy.
lysol, send me pm with your address if you still want the STRG keys =)
I just figured, is it possible to get F1-12 with windows, as well as capslock with window, that would be something.
Coffee and cream set looks brilliant. I would buy that in an instant.
Yes, they use them a lot on thier WEY keyboards. But they can also do clear first shot which make window keys look lazy and sucky.
Clear legends on brown? Clear as mud is what we'll call them.
LOL. I was thinking about making a lock pack (caps, num, scroll) with clear legend as many board have those as only led key....I would buy a set, or we could maybe just include a single capslock with clear legends in the modifier pack?
How about a "Delete", "End", and "PgDn" set in white on black?
Clear legends on brown? Clear as mud is what we'll call them.
No one picking up on my idea with windowed F-keys? :P
If its 10 MOQ I can pick up 10 sets alone :)
That's the blue I had in mind, well what it would be if it wasn't faded like in that example. Lemme see if I can find a more accurate example.
That's the blue I had in mind, well what it would be if it wasn't faded like in that example. Lemme see if I can find a more accurate example.
photo credit to precarious:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/est5Dh.jpg)
C'Mon folks more Brown votes, ignore the bright purple and blue colours... After all, you don't really want your keyboard to look like it was bought from the early learning centre, do you? :P
C'Mon folks more Brown votes, ignore the bright purple and blue colours... After all, you don't really want your keyboard to look like it was bought from the early learning centre, do you? :P
But I want it to look like I bought it from an estate sale from an old widow whose husband used to be in IT in the 70s?
C'Mon folks more Brown votes, ignore the bright purple and blue colours... After all, you don't really want your keyboard to look like it was bought from the early learning centre, do you? :P
But I want it to look like I bought it from an estate sale from an old widow whose husband used to be in IT in the 70s?
Can I change my vote? After seeing the coffee on cream set I want some brown mods!
Changed to brown, can't wait for the result. Thanks again Lysol. :)
Purple! So say we all!
we also need a purple alert to match
I don't mind what the result is, I'll most likely buy it unless it's something horrible.
Still, chocolate and cream.
Coffee and cream will need to be a full set. Doesn't look right with the remaining beige keys:
(http://i.imgur.com/XE1Xa.png) (http://i.imgur.com/XE1Xa.png)
*Sees Lysol's trade thread. Realises he has nothing to trade for coffee on cream alphas. Cries.*
*Sees Lysol's trade thread. Realises he has nothing to trade for coffee on cream alphas. Cries.*
He doesnt want cake? Awwwwwww. :cool:
*Sees Lysol's trade thread. Realises he has nothing to trade for coffee on cream alphas. Cries.*
He doesnt want cake? Awwwwwww. :cool:
Don't get people started, please. ;)
If more people are interested in having a full set for coffee/cream, perhaps it is not the best choice for you to select as a modifiers pack? I mean, if you will want it as a full set later anyway... just throwing that out there.^lysol's manipulative words to gain more votes for purple
I don't know I guess we didn't establish that before did we? Let's just say 00H US central time as both Dan and I are there.
Down with brown, green's not keen. Up with purple... uhm, something that is good that rhymes with purple?
I heard you enjoy a little "green escape" from time to time.
Looks good hashbaz, just need to remove the text from tab, shift, enter, backspace and use the lock icon for the caps lock key and it would be what we are planning on using legend wise. Some of the colors are in the colorchip photo, otherwise use your best judgement.What's the reason behind removing the text from the keys? I've always thought that the best thing about doubleshot keycaps is the cool looking text, especially on the enter key.
^In my opinion, the best part about the Cherry keys are the sharp corners, thick plastic, and exceptional overall quality.
The profile is just perfect, especially combined with rectangular custom cases, still I would be disappointed without the text on the keys. Imo that left arrow on the backspace just looks silly.^In my opinion, the best part about the Cherry keys are the sharp corners, thick plastic, and exceptional overall quality.
and profile, can't forget the profile
I never understood "CAPS LOCK" to my mind it should always have been shift lock, capitalisations to match the other mods.
I agree with Rigs, the sharp text is what I love most about Cherry keys. I believe the idea with the textless mods though is to be as inclusive of as many languages as possible.
I agree with Rigs, the sharp text is what I love most about Cherry keys. I believe the idea with the textless mods though is to be as inclusive of as many languages as possible.As an EU member I don't see an issue there. The text on the enter, shift, control, etc is just pretty much universal around the globe.
We had originally planned to offer both text and no text version in one colorway each, but when we got the moq back we made the decision to cut one choice. We will do text version next time, and maybe text only style after that.While I understang the problem with the MOQ, and I appreciate all the great job you are doing here, and I really hate pushing this, but I still think the decision to cut text version at this stage was premature, and as a community you should consider extending the interest check poll on this matter.
BTW, how will the shipping work?
As I'm from Germany, will Europe have them dispatched seperately or do I have to pay Int. shipping fees twice?
Green just BARELY made it for esc's...thank god.indeed. or thank someone at least
Any idea on space bars? Or was that just a general IC for the future?Space bars in 6.25 & 7 please.
I have boards that can use 6.25 Cherry spaces ;D
I have boards that can use 6.25 Cherry spaces ;D
Maybe, maybe not ;)I have boards that can use 6.25 Cherry spaces ;D
ie, Cherry keyboards? :p :p :p
That's true. Oh well, off to classified I go!I have boards that can use 6.25 Cherry spaces ;D
Yeah, but do we have enough other people who have boards that use that spacebar? We'd need to buy hundreds of them =)
Ha, just like politics. 99 of 138 people voted for other coloured modifiers than the white/purple. That's about 100 people that didn't want purple mods but might buy a set anyway to help MOQ.
Current Polling Results
Totals as of 12/12/12 (whoaaaaa):
Modifier Pack: *White/Purple (39), White/Blue (38), White/Green (35), White/Brown (26)
Number Pack: *White/Blue (39), *White/Purple (39), White/Green (35), White/Red (33)
Esc Pack: *Red/White (87), *White/Purple (67), *White/Green (58), White/Blue (56)
Interests:
Modifier Pack 161/186 87%
Number Pack 109/186 57%
Esc Pack 162/186 87%
CMYK 124/186 67%
It seems the number pack ended up with a draw between blue and purple. Any calls for play-off?!
I agree with Rigs, the sharp text is what I love most about Cherry keys. I believe the idea with the textless mods though is to be as inclusive of as many languages as possible.Could you make another muck up as a nice visual comparison for the purple modifier set with text as well, so everyone could see which version they really like?
But in seriousness, we want to move this along really fast as we have a small window to have production for this buy. To that effect we are trying to limit debate in order to expedite the buy. No matter what is chosen, not everyone will be happy with whatever it happen to be if there is only one choice.
No, we want it to match proper Cherry keys in a different colorway :p
I have strong opinion about some things, and I always preferred the Euro/International style, as does Dan. They just look so much classier and less cluttered. My second favorite is text only. I don't like both at all.
I know not everyone will share our opinion however.
I didn't vote since I figured I would order what ever ended up being available and there were definitely too many choices to comfortably narrow it down to one.
What am I, the freaking JOKER?
Little sisters have silly Barbie dolls,
halfway grown-up guys go for the real thing:Show Image(http://data.whicdn.com/images/11401063/art-candy-color-colours-computer-cute-Favim.com-39716_large.jpg)
(I love this pic!) :cool:
I miss the old group buys where the choices were crazy simple and you were either in or out.
I miss the old group buys where the choices were crazy simple and you were either in or out.
It was a very close race. Hopefully not too many people bail out because they didn't get thier color. If we can't make a successful groupbuy, there won't be additional ones in the future.
If this is what is going to be available, I am disappoint.
What am I, the freaking JOKER?
If this is what is going to be available, I am disappoint.
What am I, the freaking JOKER?
Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like matching keycaps.
If I've learned anything about keyboards with my time lurking/posting it's that if this was made in limited quantities it would sell like hot cakes and go for $200+ in the classifieds.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Yhg5u.jpg)
NO RIGHT TOOL, GET TIRED, GIVE UP
AHEAD STOP
NOW MAKE
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Yhg5u.jpg)
Why you no like colorfuls?
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Because the only time I look at my keyboard is when I'm playing Starcraft and am hitting the wrong key. At that point I'm already behind in something and inducing vomiting from seeing I'm hitting the ugly 'Y' key instead of the ugly 'T' key isn't the best way to do damage control. :p
When in panic mode even muscle memory can fail you. For my example, B + Y does nothing where B + T builds a turret and when thoseBecause the only time I look at my keyboard is when I'm playing Starcraft and am hitting the wrong key. At that point I'm already behind in something and inducing vomiting from seeing I'm hitting the ugly 'Y' key instead of the ugly 'T' key isn't the best way to do damage control. :p
you shouldn't be looking at your keyboard ;)
I'll buy a set of those CMYK to support the cause, but then I'm going to video myself burning them. That's a promise. I wouldn't even think of selling them as it would only spread the poor design taste problem that's prevalent around here. ;-)That would be a wasteful way to support the wrong cause. :o
I wasn't even being serious at all with those colorways. I guess it can be hard to tell with me though...
Do you have any information about a vendor pulling the trigger on the RGB set?
No offense but I would have kept this simple and very limited choice-wise. Either white on black or black on white/beige. The type people have been trying to get but are very difficult to get, and appeal to a LOT of people. And then Esc keys in a few standard colors (not red since EK is already doing it).
No offense but I would have kept this simple and very limited choice-wise. Either white on black or black on white/beige. The type people have been trying to get but are very difficult to get, and appeal to a LOT of people. And then Esc keys in a few standard colors (not red since EK is already doing it).
You should tell EK to sell those sets, I heard they listen to you.
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Yhg5u.jpg)
NO RIGHT TOOL, GET TIRED, GIVE UP
AHEAD STOP
NOW MAKE
I can confirm it, similarly when I created that RF 87U poll, and EK responded.
No, vendors wouldn't tell us nothing.
No, vendors wouldn't tell us nothing.
Do you have any information about a vendor pulling the trigger on the RGB set?
Vendors along with the pessimists of this community have no intent of sharing what they plan to make. And that's just fine with me.
Too bad they didn't see our Red Alert Topre interest check....
No one asked me nuttin'
I would of course volunteer more info about what I'm doing these days were it not for everyone and their mother's dog's ski instructor wanting to open up a mech keyboard/swag shop, so I keep to myself more for the the sake of survival. Those red Esc keys were *supposed* to be a surprise, and to a greater degree; they're available now only to remind everyone that EK is still alive;)
So no one of us asked, but if we did, you wouldn't tell us?
If not, consider this to be us asking you: Are you currently planning to release anything that we have discussed here, eg sets of dolch, RA, BoW,WoB, CCn*, etc?
So no one of us asked, but if we did, you wouldn't tell us?
If not, consider this to be us asking you: Are you currently planning to release anything that we have discussed here, eg sets of dolch, RA, BoW,WoB, CCn*, etc?
Some of those ideas are definitely high on the list:)
So no one of us asked, but if we did, you wouldn't tell us?
If not, consider this to be us asking you: Are you currently planning to release anything that we have discussed here, eg sets of dolch, RA, BoW,WoB, CCn*, etc?
Some of those ideas are definitely high on the list:)
Please, please don't
If you don't offer the extra languages because there iless profit there than with the standard set, then those languages will never ever happen. Please don't ruin this.
Please don't do this unless you do it all the way.
So no one of us asked, but if we did, you wouldn't tell us?
If not, consider this to be us asking you: Are you currently planning to release anything that we have discussed here, eg sets of dolch, RA, BoW,WoB, CCn*, etc?
Some of those ideas are definitely high on the list:)
So no one of us asked, but if we did, you wouldn't tell us?
If not, consider this to be us asking you: Are you currently planning to release anything that we have discussed here, eg sets of dolch, RA, BoW,WoB, CCn*, etc?
Some of those ideas are definitely high on the list:)
Please, please don't
If you don't offer the extra languages because there iless profit there than with the standard set, then those languages will never ever happen. Please don't ruin this.
Please don't do this unless you do it all the way.
Waiting for Round 5...
Why not start your own Swedish keyboard company if you feel so strongly about it?
...if anyone is doing any toe stepping around here, it isn't me.
Why not start your own Swedish keyboard company if you feel so strongly about it?
...if anyone is doing any toe stepping around here, it isn't me.
I feel strongly about people crushing the dreams and possibilities of others for their personal gain. Regarding your suggestion, I could never start such a company and ignore other languages. It would be much to heartless to people of other nationalities and the guilt would be unbearable to me.
If EK comes out with full sets, how does that hinder a matching group buy for language kits?
If EK comes out with full sets, how does that hinder a matching group buy for language kits?
There will be some other entities in the game. I'm not going to name names and be vindictive though. While as I said they would not let us know thier plans, it did sound like they were not likely to offer any ISO options or other than US layouts. So we will have a different focus anyway. Also I'm not really sure about how much selection there would ever be on full sets at retail. It's a lot of upfront cost and risk and a wrong move could easily prove a disaster financially. It's a lot easier to attempt riskier colorways and options in a groupbuy as it becomes clear quite quickly what people will and will not buy. Also as I have said before (maybe elsewhere) retail prices are still likely to be higher than groupbuy prices. Even though they may be able to buy more upfront if they have the capital for a lower price, they are likely to add back a considerable mark up since they are obviously interested in making profits as a buisiness.
Groupbuy is not a buisiness, its for the love of it.
Clearly we don't understand. A US based business should cater to everyone, regardless of financial loss, out of guilt for the minority of people that want what he sells in a different language.
The biggest issue then will be EK's ridiculous international shipping costs for anything over 0.25kg.
There is an upper limit to what people will pay for this stuff. Especially if its common / not rare. Why would you pay $200 for a new set of white on black Cherry DS, when they are plentiful and can be had for $100 or less, as new.because GHers can be complete idiots as long as they get accepted into the cool crowd.
The biggest issue then will be EK's ridiculous international shipping costs for anything over 0.25kg.
You need to throw harder my friend :D
It's nice to see that GMK didn't get spooked by some of us acting like a paranoid girlfriend.(http://i.imgur.com/2DH8W.jpg)
EK, if you release any of those sets you WILL be crushing the opertunity for multi legend sets...I don't fully understand what you are suggesting here. I think you are suggesting that if I want to buy a keyboard set from elitekeyboards, or some other keyboard oriented site then I have to get extra keys for Swedish, German, and other languages included. I think a better alternative would be for smaller group buys for just those specific keys that other languages need to enhance other sets. If GMK will not do smaller quantities then they are the bad guy, not an American company wanting to sell English keyboards. It is a nice gesture to try and support more languages but at what point do you stop holding back the majority for the benefit of the minority?
Please tell Lysol / Dan your plans, I'm sure they can both keep a secret and can steer this whole project in the right direction.
GMK responded, phew. Looks like they agreed to our MOQs =) (400 for Esc pack, 300 for everything else)
GB thread will go up in the next couple days. Might need some help with mockups if anyone has some time....
I gotchu Dan ;)
Since windows and menu keys were always pad printed, is it possible to get those legends pad printed instead of blanks with the mod pack?
If GMK will not do smaller quantities then they are the bad guy, not an American company wanting to sell American keyboards.
EK, if you release any of those sets you WILL be crushing the opertunity for multi legend sets...I don't fully understand what you are suggesting here. I think you are suggesting that if I want to buy a keyboard set from elitekeyboards, or some other keyboard oriented site then I have to get extra keys for Swedish, German, and other languages included. I think a better alternative would be for smaller group buys for just those specific keys that other languages need to enhance other sets. If GMK will not do smaller quantities then they are the bad guy, not an American company wanting to sell English keyboards. It is a nice gesture to try and support more languages but at what point do you stop holding back the majority for the benefit of the minority?
Please tell Lysol / Dan your plans, I'm sure they can both keep a secret and can steer this whole project in the right direction.
WTB Mockup help, templates, etc. Lysol and I are still really crunched for time and need a little assistance for developing mockups for the sets in the OP. Most of the text for the GB is ready to go, just need some visual pull =) Any help is appreciated and can be compensated for their time.Turn on the bat signal :p
WTB Mockup help, templates, etc. Lysol and I are still really crunched for time and need a little assistance for developing mockups for the sets in the OP. Most of the text for the GB is ready to go, just need some visual pull =) Any help is appreciated and can be compensated for their time.
WTB Mockup help, templates, etc. Lysol and I are still really crunched for time and need a little assistance for developing mockups for the sets in the OP. Most of the text for the GB is ready to go, just need some visual pull =) Any help is appreciated and can be compensated for their time.
I can help. Are you looking for anything prettier than this:
This was harder:
(Attachment Link)
This took a bit of effort:
(Attachment Link)
Modified version of an image from lysol's collection
- Ron | samwisekoi
Basically we need extension of what hasbaz made here also showing the 1x and 1.5, ISO enter, etc... something similar for CMYK, and all 3 of the Esc key colorways.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/RpeJX.png)
Thanks in advance to anyone who can help us out on this.
If I had such a file I would have knocked it out quick myself.
here (https://dl.dropbox.com/u/63153503/GBlayoutl.ai) is the template I did for the mock-ups
I tried to make it easy to use
Seeing what Sam and Matteo already did I'm not worried (although you can PM if need be)
I plan to do a wiki but I didn't have the chance yet =[
...all I need is a source file for the Cherry font and I can make some mockups tonight :)I wish that existed. Then anyone could make mock ups themselves for the most part. That Cherry font is guarded like Fort Knox.
...all I need is a source file for the Cherry font and I can make some mockups tonight :)I wish that existed. Then anyone could make mock ups themselves for the most part. That Cherry font is guarded like Fort Knox.
The original reason for keeping the source SVGs from the replica project under lock and key was to avoid people exploiting them for profit. Since the community is paying for the legends, the idea was to make them available through SP for group buys, but to guard the source files carefully to avoid knock-offs.
With GMK now producing new authentic Cherry 2-shots, perhaps this policy can be loosened. But as of now, it stands.
I want to be clear that I don't distrust lysol or danielucf or samwise, but the fewer people that have access to the files, the smaller the chance that they will leak and become generally available.
I on the other hand don't really give a flying f*ck what people may do with my legend files... have at them (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=35765.0).
So what happened here? Which set is final?
Updates plz.. :D :P :)
Current Polling Results
Totals as of 12/12/12 (whoaaaaa):
Modifier Pack: White/Purple (39), White/Blue (38), White/Green (35), White/Brown (26)
Number Pack: White/Blue (39), White/Purple (39), White/Green (35), White/Red (33)
Esc Pack: Red/White (87), White/Purple (67), White/Green (58), White/Blue (56)
Interests:
Modifier Pack 161/186 87%
Number Pack 109/186 57%
Esc Pack 162/186 87%
CMYK 124/186 67%
First full work week after vacation for me, hope it's the same for GMK :D
Any update on this?
Yay progress
Mid to late Feb is when the orders are estimated to close?
Yes, as a rough estimate assuming things stay on track.
Still wating on that damn color to arrive... I guess our special order colors are more tricky than I expected.
Samples arrived. I will make the GB thread for this later on today.(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-r1a-7OVQHV4/TWb41Xv5P0I/AAAAAAAAEbM/1jkbplItMWo/s1600/cakeify-hurray.gif)
Samples arrived. I will make the GB thread for this later on today.
Samples arrived. I will make the GB thread for this later on today.
NICE, where's the PICS!!!!!!!!!!! :D
Samples arrived. I will make the GB thread for this later on today.
NICE, where's the PICS!!!!!!!!!!! :D
Give the man more than 30 mins! :P
WTB Mockup help, templates, etc. Lysol and I are still really crunched for time and need a little assistance for developing mockups for the sets in the OP. Most of the text for the GB is ready to go, just need some visual pull =) Any help is appreciated and can be compensated for their time.
I can help. Are you looking for anything prettier than this:
(Attachment Link)
This was harder:
(Attachment Link)
This took a bit of effort:
(Attachment Link)
Modified version of an image from lysol's collection
- Ron | samwisekoi
Show Image(http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp349/lysol8086/DSC01730_zpsfe5b8556.jpg)
Buy will be live as soon as moderator approves.
Yeah, I know, I was googling "GMK Purple", when I found this thread and the purple arrows, so were they ever produced for GB or just sample?