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Offline Azuremen

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« Reply #30 on: Fri, 10 December 2010, 18:42:45 »
Well, I'm excited for the GSL finals now. Though not going to say anything here just yet since I imagine many people have not yet had the time to watch the games (I stayed up to watch them live)

I've also started updating the first post with a list of GeekHackers that play SC2 and have provided some of their info. Though it would be nice to get everyone's ID number as well, since it apparently isn't shown on the B.net page (from what I can tell)

Also, would anyone be interested in a King of the Hill or such between the GH'ers? Just as a casual serious of games perhaps to practice and have fun with.
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Offline CodeChef

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« Reply #31 on: Fri, 10 December 2010, 20:04:07 »
Oh, yeah.

Sinasis #908

I'm pretty bad (I would say I'm mid-to-high silver but I play in high bronze)
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Offline elbowglue

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« Reply #32 on: Sat, 11 December 2010, 10:15:27 »
Elbowglue #640 here

Whats your ID azureman?
My keyboards: Filco Cherry Blue Tenkeyless(daily home), Compaq MX11800 (modded to blacks), Compaq "MX 84u",  Wellington\'s Dampened Endurapro, Pinkalicious Filco Blue Cherry, Chicony KB-5191, Chicony KB-5181, Desko MOS 5023 UP "elbowglue" spos (modded to blues), Siig Minitouch (monterey blue), SMK-88 (blue cherries), Ricercar SPOS
Smallest to biggest keyboards in inches (Length X Height) - Length is most important for a midline mouse position

KBC Poker: 11.6 x 3.9 - HHKB: 11.6 x 4.3 - Siig Minitouch (Geekhack Space Saver): 11.6 x 6 - Deck/Tg3 82: 12 x 6 - Noppoo Choc Mini 12.4 x 5.3 - Compaq "MX 84u": 13.1 x 7.5 - Filco Tenkeyless: 14 x 5.3 - Cherry "ricercar spos" G86-62410EUAGSA: 14 x 7.75 - Topre Realforce 86u: 14.4 x 6.65 - Desko "elbowglue spos" MOS 5023 UP: 14.5 x 8.4 - IBM Model M Spacesaver: 15.3 x 7 - G80-1800: 15.9 x 7.1 - Adesso MKB-125B: 16 x 7.3 - Compaq Mx11800, Cherry G80-11900: 16.25 x 7.5 - Filco Standard: 17.3 x 5.4 - Unicomp Endurapro: 17.9 x 7.1 - Adesso MKB-135B: 18.3 x 6.0 - Cherry G80-3000: 18.5 x 7.6 - IBM Model M, Unicomp Customizer: 19.3 x 8.27

Offline ShoeFactory

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« Reply #33 on: Sat, 11 December 2010, 11:43:12 »
Shoey.467 here

I'm a 2550 diamond zerg.

I got my first mechanical keyboard (compaq mx11800) a couple of weeks ago and am new to these forums. There was a big buzz in the sc2 community when fruitdealer won GSL1 and he used a filco -- partially the reason I'm here. Are there any other TLers here?

Offline AndrewZorn

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« Reply #34 on: Sat, 11 December 2010, 11:55:42 »
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Shoey.467 here

I'm a 2550 diamond zerg.

I got my first mechanical keyboard (compaq mx11800) a couple of weeks ago and am new to these forums. There was a big buzz in the sc2 community when fruitdealer won GSL1 and he used a filco -- partially the reason I'm here. Are there any other TLers here?

Wow

I frequent the forums, but am nowhere near as good as you.  How's the Compaq working for you in SC2?  I couldn't get used to the feel, and mine has been in the box since I bought it (yes, my feel-testing was conducted with the keyboard in the box).
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Offline elbowglue

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« Reply #35 on: Sat, 11 December 2010, 12:06:20 »
Quote from: ShoeFactory;261366
I got my first mechanical keyboard (compaq mx11800) a couple of weeks ago and am new to these forums. There was a big buzz in the sc2 community when fruitdealer won GSL1 and he used a filco -- partially the reason I'm here. Are there any other TLers here?

Welcome shoefactory.  Consider taking a hacksaw to your MX11800(link) to get rid of the trackball and tenkeyless section.  Also, after you open it up I would suggest using some foamy type tape onto the PCB to stabilize it in relation to the case.  It makes the keyboard feel much nicer and less flexy.  Awesome choice of first keyboard, it is my daily work keyboard.
My keyboards: Filco Cherry Blue Tenkeyless(daily home), Compaq MX11800 (modded to blacks), Compaq "MX 84u",  Wellington\'s Dampened Endurapro, Pinkalicious Filco Blue Cherry, Chicony KB-5191, Chicony KB-5181, Desko MOS 5023 UP "elbowglue" spos (modded to blues), Siig Minitouch (monterey blue), SMK-88 (blue cherries), Ricercar SPOS
Smallest to biggest keyboards in inches (Length X Height) - Length is most important for a midline mouse position

KBC Poker: 11.6 x 3.9 - HHKB: 11.6 x 4.3 - Siig Minitouch (Geekhack Space Saver): 11.6 x 6 - Deck/Tg3 82: 12 x 6 - Noppoo Choc Mini 12.4 x 5.3 - Compaq "MX 84u": 13.1 x 7.5 - Filco Tenkeyless: 14 x 5.3 - Cherry "ricercar spos" G86-62410EUAGSA: 14 x 7.75 - Topre Realforce 86u: 14.4 x 6.65 - Desko "elbowglue spos" MOS 5023 UP: 14.5 x 8.4 - IBM Model M Spacesaver: 15.3 x 7 - G80-1800: 15.9 x 7.1 - Adesso MKB-125B: 16 x 7.3 - Compaq Mx11800, Cherry G80-11900: 16.25 x 7.5 - Filco Standard: 17.3 x 5.4 - Unicomp Endurapro: 17.9 x 7.1 - Adesso MKB-135B: 18.3 x 6.0 - Cherry G80-3000: 18.5 x 7.6 - IBM Model M, Unicomp Customizer: 19.3 x 8.27

Offline ShoeFactory

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« Reply #36 on: Sat, 11 December 2010, 13:43:42 »
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Wow

I frequent the forums, but am nowhere near as good as you.  How's the Compaq working for you in SC2?  I couldn't get used to the feel, and mine has been in the box since I bought it (yes, my feel-testing was conducted with the keyboard in the box).

The compaq is great. I love the feel of it, it's a pleasure to type and play on. I'm definitely keeping the compaq until I get a premium keyboard like a filco (not in too much of a rush because I am liking this compaq.


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Welcome shoefactory.  Consider taking a hacksaw to your MX11800(link) to get rid of the trackball and tenkeyless section.  Also, after you open it up I would suggest using some foamy type tape onto the PCB to stabilize it in relation to the case.  It makes the keyboard feel much nicer and less flexy.  Awesome choice of first keyboard, it is my daily work keyboard.

Oh that foam is a really good idea. I've been wondering about the PBC flex -- I'll do that today. The trackball is pretty ugly; i might indeed cut that off.

Offline elbowglue

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« Reply #37 on: Sat, 11 December 2010, 15:18:14 »
You may find that you like the compaq better than the filco (which I personaly do).  Bottoming out on the compaq MX11800 is very nice, wherehas bottoming out on the filco is like running into a metal wall.

If you read in the compaq mx11800 hacksaw thread, there is a point where I have a picture that says "ricercar cut here" - if you cut it along that line there is no need for soldering.
My keyboards: Filco Cherry Blue Tenkeyless(daily home), Compaq MX11800 (modded to blacks), Compaq "MX 84u",  Wellington\'s Dampened Endurapro, Pinkalicious Filco Blue Cherry, Chicony KB-5191, Chicony KB-5181, Desko MOS 5023 UP "elbowglue" spos (modded to blues), Siig Minitouch (monterey blue), SMK-88 (blue cherries), Ricercar SPOS
Smallest to biggest keyboards in inches (Length X Height) - Length is most important for a midline mouse position

KBC Poker: 11.6 x 3.9 - HHKB: 11.6 x 4.3 - Siig Minitouch (Geekhack Space Saver): 11.6 x 6 - Deck/Tg3 82: 12 x 6 - Noppoo Choc Mini 12.4 x 5.3 - Compaq "MX 84u": 13.1 x 7.5 - Filco Tenkeyless: 14 x 5.3 - Cherry "ricercar spos" G86-62410EUAGSA: 14 x 7.75 - Topre Realforce 86u: 14.4 x 6.65 - Desko "elbowglue spos" MOS 5023 UP: 14.5 x 8.4 - IBM Model M Spacesaver: 15.3 x 7 - G80-1800: 15.9 x 7.1 - Adesso MKB-125B: 16 x 7.3 - Compaq Mx11800, Cherry G80-11900: 16.25 x 7.5 - Filco Standard: 17.3 x 5.4 - Unicomp Endurapro: 17.9 x 7.1 - Adesso MKB-135B: 18.3 x 6.0 - Cherry G80-3000: 18.5 x 7.6 - IBM Model M, Unicomp Customizer: 19.3 x 8.27

Offline Azuremen

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« Reply #38 on: Sat, 11 December 2010, 15:58:14 »
Quote from: ShoeFactory;261366
Shoey.467 here

I'm a 2550 diamond zerg.

I got my first mechanical keyboard (compaq mx11800) a couple of weeks ago and am new to these forums. There was a big buzz in the sc2 community when fruitdealer won GSL1 and he used a filco -- partially the reason I'm here. Are there any other TLers here?


I use TL as a resource, but rarely post on the forums at this point. There just isn't that much good info in the strategy section and I just get news from my mumble group.

As for the keyboards, I actually got pointed towards keyboards after I tested some Razer gear at PAX, namely the Marauder (woo APM). Which got me looking into keyboards and ultimately resulted in me ending up here after realizing info here is far better than at OCN.

And a good zerg is scary. My practice partner for my PvZ is around that level and I'm honestly at a loss.

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Elbowglue #640 here

Whats your ID azureman?


Oh, I'll put it up there I guess.

gtAzire - 359

I've not laddered much recently and so my ranking is just not a good idicator of my play level. 930 point bonus pool and my MMR puts me against 2000 point players (which can be depressingly bad)
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Offline mian2222

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« Reply #39 on: Sat, 11 December 2010, 21:19:29 »
Hey, I'm Grace 256. I would love to play with you guys. I'm only named Grace after my good friend. I'm not a she. So don't hit on me. Or hit on me whatever. :P. I'm not very good, made it to Gold League but deserve to be on Bronze (really).

Also, off topic but if you any of you guys play Heroes of Newerth (I play HoN much more) I'm ohboymyo. I used to be good but after like a 30 game losing streak seems like I suck at this game too! Oh well, add me if you ever play this!

I also just joined GH a few weeks ago. Having fun learning a lot about keyboards.

Offline AndrewZorn

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« Reply #40 on: Sat, 11 December 2010, 21:34:38 »
Is there even a way to add a person without the code or email?

EDIT finished adding everyone I could, add me!  And if anyone uses Xfire, I'm AndrewZorn.  As I don't run SC2 in the background all day, that's probably a better way to find me.
« Last Edit: Sat, 11 December 2010, 21:38:04 by AndrewZorn »
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Offline fssbzz

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« Reply #41 on: Sat, 11 December 2010, 21:41:25 »
right click, and add as friend.

Offline CodeChef

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« Reply #42 on: Sat, 11 December 2010, 21:42:53 »
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Is there even a way to add a person without the code or email?

EDIT finished adding everyone I could, add me!  And if anyone uses Xfire, I'm AndrewZorn.  As I don't run SC2 in the background all day, that's probably a better way to find me.


Be friends with them on Facebook?

Speaking of which... GEEKHACK FACEBOOK GROUP!
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Offline AndrewZorn

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« Reply #43 on: Sat, 11 December 2010, 23:06:43 »
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right click, and add as friend.

...if I'm in the game, but how do I do it if I can't see their profile in the game?  That's what I'm saying.

Short of doing sc2ranks searches, which I'm not willing.
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Offline Azuremen

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« Reply #44 on: Sun, 12 December 2010, 00:24:25 »
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...if I'm in the game, but how do I do it if I can't see their profile in the game?  That's what I'm saying.

Short of doing sc2ranks searches, which I'm not willing.


Match history is the easiest way to add people without their friend codes.

I spent some time in team games today and mass 3/3 marines with medivacs are hilarious. 113 marines and 19 medivacs at the end of the game. Ruined so many lives.
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Offline mian2222

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« Reply #45 on: Sun, 12 December 2010, 01:05:08 »
Yeah I think its unfortunate Bnet decided to forego unique identities. It was much easier to friend back then. Now you're only supposed to friend people you know or something.

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« Reply #46 on: Sun, 12 December 2010, 10:08:48 »
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Match history is the easiest way to add people without their friend codes.

I spent some time in team games today and mass 3/3 marines with medivacs are hilarious. 113 marines and 19 medivacs at the end of the game. Ruined so many lives.

Right, but having not played these people, I cannot do that.  My point is that I think we need emails or ID#s to be able to add the people that want to play.

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Yeah I think its unfortunate Bnet decided to forego unique identities. It was much easier to friend back then. Now you're only supposed to friend people you know or something.

I was going to start agreeing with you, and then transition into Battle.net 2.0 hatred, but it's better just said that Bnet2.0 is an awful, poorly-thought-out excuse for an online community that epitomizes the dumbing-down of games.  It is the worst part about SC2 by far, and makes its predecessor from over a decade ago look advanced.
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Offline Crypt

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« Reply #47 on: Sun, 12 December 2010, 10:55:54 »
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Match history is the easiest way to add people without their friend codes.

I spent some time in team games today and mass 3/3 marines with medivacs are hilarious. 113 marines and 19 medivacs at the end of the game. Ruined so many lives.
Indeed, I'm ranked fairly high in 2v2, and terran infantry is definitely "OP."  It's mostly OP because no one seems to use psi storm or infestors at all, surprisingly.

Offline AndrewZorn

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« Reply #48 on: Sun, 12 December 2010, 11:12:51 »
Infestors
Ultralisks

Colloxen
Storm

Siege Tanks
Hellions



there
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Offline ShoeFactory

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« Reply #49 on: Sun, 12 December 2010, 12:46:42 »
Quote from: AndrewZorn;261564
Is there even a way to add a person without the code or email?

EDIT finished adding everyone I could, add me!  And if anyone uses Xfire, I'm AndrewZorn.  As I don't run SC2 in the background all day, that's probably a better way to find me.


Theres a tab arrow on the right side of the chat box so when you finish the game you can click the tab and right click the portrait to add as a friend.

Offline AndrewZorn

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« Reply #50 on: Sun, 12 December 2010, 12:49:42 »
Yet again I'll explain

I know how to add a friend if I see them in SC2 somehow

HOWEVER

Having a list of usernames at the top of the thread... with no emails or ID#s... does not give enough information to be able to add a friend.

Unless I'm missing some way to do it from the Bnet link.
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Offline hate

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« Reply #51 on: Sun, 12 December 2010, 12:56:58 »
hate 157 on eu, just restarted playing 1/1

http://www.sc2ranks.com/eu/837099/hate
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Offline Crypt

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« Reply #52 on: Sun, 12 December 2010, 14:26:48 »
Quote from: AndrewZorn;261706
Infestors
Ultralisks

Colloxen
Storm

Siege Tanks
Hellions



there
I'm not sure if that was directed at me.  My point wasn't that there aren't units that can efficiently kill infantry, but rather that even in high ranked games, I find that my opponents do not get those units.  I can honestly say that < 5% of my opponents use storm or infestors.  Ultralisks are too late, and it's difficult to get a 2nd expo in a 2v2.  Siege tanks are good.  Hellion don't do well against infantry, and I find Colossai easy to counter, since I already have a reactor starport.

Offline AndrewZorn

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« Reply #53 on: Sun, 12 December 2010, 14:41:00 »
I was referring to those as being good vs massed marines, but not to be demeaning to you.  Those units always give me the most trouble.

Hellions aren't good late game, but everyone always underestimates the mobility and AoE of blue flame Hellions mid-game.
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Offline Crypt

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« Reply #54 on: Sun, 12 December 2010, 14:51:04 »
Indeed, my standard build "for fun" these days is gas before rax with a quick hellion marine harrass...

1 rax rines
immediate factory hellion
banshee
expansion
+2x rax

Offline Azuremen

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« Reply #55 on: Sun, 12 December 2010, 16:20:23 »
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I was referring to those as being good vs massed marines, but not to be demeaning to you.  Those units always give me the most trouble.

Hellions aren't good late game, but everyone always underestimates the mobility and AoE of blue flame Hellions mid-game.


Upgraded Hellions rape in late game. Part of why Zergs don't like getting hydra against Terran.

Crypt, define high rated. I see all those anti-infantry units on a regular basis.

And Ultra really don't do that well against Marines because they can be Stim kited. Banelings with a few Infestors on the other hand...
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Offline hate

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« Reply #56 on: Mon, 13 December 2010, 06:33:56 »
mass infantry is the counter to ultras.
helions are terrible for anything other than economy harasment.

infestors right now are not so popular due to their high gas cost and the infantry tank style that most terrans play. infestors die too fast to tank fire + you need to micro banelings at the same time so they dont hit tanks or marauders.
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Offline Fwiffo

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« Reply #57 on: Mon, 13 December 2010, 08:49:58 »
Quote from: Crypt;261787
I'm not sure if that was directed at me.  My point wasn't that there aren't units that can efficiently kill infantry, but rather that even in high ranked games, I find that my opponents do not get those units.  I can honestly say that < 5% of my opponents use storm or infestors.  Ultralisks are too late, and it's difficult to get a 2nd expo in a 2v2.  Siege tanks are good.  Hellion don't do well against infantry, and I find Colossai easy to counter, since I already have a reactor starport.

It takes forever to tech up to storm, and it's usually a more awkward path to get to than colossus. Protoss is almost always going to build a robo facility because you're probably opening with banshees, and they need observers (and even if you aren't going banshee, observers are still really good). They're just one building away from colossus.

To get storm, you first have to get twilight council, which you usually want to get eventually for the upgrades, but is less urgent than detection. Maybe you'll have it early if you open blink stalker or DT rush... Then you have to get the templar archives, then you have to research storm and then you have to research the amulet before you can use it effectively. If you don't have the amulet, you're warping in units that have to stand around and do nothing for half an hour while their energy builds up (at least ghosts have a regular attack). And it's harder to use correctly than colossus, and by the time you get storm and can use it, ghosts will already be out, which makes it a huge crap-shoot.

Storm is great, don't get me wrong, but there's a very good reason you don't see it unless a game goes like 30+ minutes, and most games don't.
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Offline Crypt

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« Reply #58 on: Mon, 13 December 2010, 09:22:42 »
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Crypt, define high rated. I see all those anti-infantry units on a regular basis.
We're consistently matched against top 10 2v2 teams, some of which are surprisingly bad, TBH, even for team players.  The only anti-infantry units I see regularly are Siege Tanks and Colossai (which I find easy to counter.)

@Fwiffo:
It's 2v2, so my partner always techs everything while focusing on Zealots to conserve gas.  We're able to get to psi storm in most games that way.  Charge Zealots + HT and any random Terran army is good vs. almost anything.

I think the problem of the other teams is that they're still playing like it's a double 1v1 match instead of playing off the strengths and weaknesses of a combined 2 race army.  As an aside, Banshee rushes aren't nearly as common against us as low tech attacks.

Offline hate

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« Reply #59 on: Mon, 13 December 2010, 13:37:37 »
even after the reaper nerf 2/2 is terribly broken, there are very good 80-90% win rate builds out there
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