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Offline Arc'xer

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« Reply #30 on: Sat, 15 January 2011, 15:18:04 »
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hilarious... he actually avoided mention the RTR tech stuff but that is understandable, because how does it make any difference/beneficial in fps games? Is there some sort of faster output into the PC when enabling it?

Anyway a personal review of the keyboard is always great.

Most of those sites always post gimmicky reviews with lack of in-depth information. I think they are just there to get free stuff and or get easy money, maybe scams to boost the ratings of a product. You know quick and dirty reviews making the product look like "Whoa".

This is what RTR does it acts like the arcade stick repeaters. The video you posted shows a difference if you pause the video. The 8x is actually slightly faster but the difference is very negligible and I could be wrong but there seems signs of engine command limitations or possibly some sort of framerate-to-command limit since the quake engine(goldsrc) utilizes framerates dependent physics and networking(just like the other quake engines).

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« Reply #31 on: Mon, 17 January 2011, 11:50:15 »
Hi all,

I've just bought this keyboard, overall it's a good keyboard but the key's wearing is very cheap (or it's just mine).
I have played a game about 4 hours and the result...


Offline ScorpioEF

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« Reply #32 on: Mon, 17 January 2011, 12:14:54 »
Yeah I think I will change it for a Filco. A keyboard at this price shouldn't have fault like this.

But a Filco it's very hard to find in Europe...

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« Reply #33 on: Mon, 17 January 2011, 12:19:24 »
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Yeah I think I will change it for a Filco. A keyboard at this price shouldn't have fault like this.

But a Filco it's very hard to find in Europe...

french filco is going to be dispatch out very soon
end of feb if i am correct

Offline ajx

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« Reply #34 on: Mon, 17 January 2011, 12:22:22 »
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A lot easier to find than in the USA.

through EK?
keyboardco is only one that can supply in Europe
fact it s aint enough according to many demands for filco mech keyboards

Offline ScorpioEF

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« Reply #35 on: Mon, 17 January 2011, 12:30:54 »
I have just seen it, they say mid-february.
Hope they will have stock.

Offline dxong

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« Reply #36 on: Tue, 18 January 2011, 09:29:45 »
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Hi all,

I've just bought this keyboard, overall it's a good keyboard but the key's wearing is very cheap (or it's just mine).
I have played a game about 4 hours and the result...

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Tried to take a picture of a similar problem with my keyboard as well but my camera does not work well.

But Im dissapointed too, considering the price this is not acceptable at all. Now I have to keep a monthly cleaning at minimum...
« Last Edit: Tue, 18 January 2011, 09:34:39 by dxong »

Offline dxong

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« Reply #37 on: Tue, 18 January 2011, 10:17:06 »
Here is a picture, not the best but a closer look...

BTW I noticed that there was a group buy to get a set of keycaps, does it include danish layout as well because I could be getting a set of those, and return this keyboard and purchase a filco or das keyboard UK version "blank" and replace them with danish layouts if possible?


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« Reply #38 on: Thu, 20 January 2011, 14:19:25 »
wasd are also wearing out
damn it seems to be like a new record
after less then 1 hour of gaming around
i'd ask about wasd keycaps
do filco blank or wasd keycaps be match with any other mecha keyboard such as celeritas?

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« Reply #39 on: Thu, 20 January 2011, 14:32:38 »
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Hi all,

I've just bought this keyboard, overall it's a good keyboard but the key's wearing is very cheap (or it's just mine).
I have played a game about 4 hours and the result...


Well i got my Steelseries 6GV2 a few days ago and the gaming keycaps are also faded by now, and it started on the first day... You can still see the letters properly, but you also do clearly see a big difference between the gaming caps and the rest of the keyboard. I don't mind much, as i don't tend to look at my keyboard when i type or play, but it's true that it isn't as pretty now as it was when i unpacked it.

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« Reply #40 on: Fri, 21 January 2011, 04:08:20 »
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Well i got my Steelseries 6GV2 a few days ago and the gaming keycaps are also faded by now, and it started on the first day... You can still see the letters properly, but you also do clearly see a big difference between the gaming caps and the rest of the keyboard. I don't mind much, as i don't tend to look at my keyboard when i type or play, but it's true that it isn't as pretty now as it was when i unpacked it.


Even with razer black widow gets dark easily. Some one posted the same issue in this forum. No big deal to me any longer… functionality is thumbs up!

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wasd are also wearing out
damn it seems to be like a new record
after less then 1 hour of gaming around
i'd ask about wasd keycaps
do filco blank or wasd keycaps be match with any other mecha keyboard such as celeritas?


I finally come to accept the keys gets darker. Ill just eat a big fat greasy burger and smooth my greasy fingers all over the keys and you wont be able to see any difference, problem solved. One day you when you figure you wanna clean your keys, its like getting brand new keys, couldnt be more happy no?

It isnt that big of a deal to me any longer, bought a bottle of isopropyl 99% and it cleaned them off.

Still a great keyboard and nylon keys do feel smooth and soft regardless of how sweaty you fingers might become...

AJX I will try and see if I cant have my filco keys to fit into the board properly, the problem was that they stick out about 1mm higher than the rest. But I just lend my keyboard to a friend so he can test it so I cant come with an answer yet...

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« Reply #41 on: Fri, 21 January 2011, 11:36:48 »
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I'm not sure how this Lasered Keys>Pad Printed Internet Myth got started.

Old-school pad-printing vs. lasered on beige keyboards.  This myth has been pretty much over since black, lasered key caps (with infill) came on the market and printing processes like those of the Filco caps and decals like MS and Logitech.


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« Reply #42 on: Fri, 21 January 2011, 17:07:56 »
I have this VAIO laptop which suffered heavy duty shifts under my hands for about 6 years. The keys are shiny, but the legends are not damaged at all ... I think. I gotta check and take some pictures someday. I think they were decals.
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Offline ajx

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« Reply #43 on: Fri, 21 January 2011, 21:14:22 »
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Even with razer black widow gets dark easily. Some one posted the same issue in this forum. No big deal to me any longer… functionality is thumbs up!



I finally come to accept the keys gets darker. Ill just eat a big fat greasy burger and smooth my greasy fingers all over the keys and you wont be able to see any difference, problem solved. One day you when you figure you wanna clean your keys, its like getting brand new keys, couldnt be more happy no?

It isnt that big of a deal to me any longer, bought a bottle of isopropyl 99% and it cleaned them off.

Still a great keyboard and nylon keys do feel smooth and soft regardless of how sweaty you fingers might become...

AJX I will try and see if I cant have my filco keys to fit into the board properly, the problem was that they stick out about 1mm higher than the rest. But I just lend my keyboard to a friend so he can test it so I cant come with an answer yet...

i might accept letter's keys wear out but i barely understand that happened after 1 hour
i wont regret despite of cost
it isnt' like i bought a cheap keyboard around 20€
high price must requires high quality and this mistake has proven zowie is still new beginnner in keyboard's market
however it feels awesome for typing, a little bit less for gaming especially fps
next mechanical keyboard gonna be a filco blank


Offline Ekaros

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« Reply #44 on: Sat, 22 January 2011, 10:22:52 »
My old 6G has even crapier quality on some keys... Still this might be a decent alternative for Filco if you want to save a few bucks, specialy if you are after nordic-layouts...
So I should add something useless here yes? Ok, ok...
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« Reply #45 on: Sat, 22 January 2011, 13:54:15 »
and one heck of a tenkeyless mod

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Offline bifi85

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« Reply #46 on: Sun, 23 January 2011, 07:55:31 »
The Zowie Celeritas is not allowed in korean e-sport events. So the advertisement from korean e-sport-stars for this product is... you know.

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« Reply #47 on: Sun, 23 January 2011, 08:07:10 »
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The Zowie Celeritas is not allowed in korean e-sport events. So the advertisement from korean e-sport-stars for this product is... you know.

I take that any advertisement like this does not attract customers while the product itself does, if you have a slight interest in keyboard. Only downside is the non coating on the keys.

I am not a huge gamer myself, so im not well informed with the esport, but how is it a keyboard is banned from any korean e-sports scenes? 0.o
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« Reply #48 on: Thu, 27 January 2011, 08:59:25 »
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wasd are also wearing out
damn it seems to be like a new record
after less then 1 hour of gaming around
i'd ask about wasd keycaps
do filco blank or wasd keycaps be match with any other mecha keyboard such as celeritas?


Here is an answer to your question:

Overall look on it


Difference in high...


the shape and the size of the keys of the filco red wasd keys do look the same like the ones on the Celeritas. I think the fitting hole inside the key is a bit too long but I would say if I file it down they will probably fit.

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« Reply #49 on: Thu, 27 January 2011, 09:04:12 »
This seems to happen on all modern lasered keys. It happened on my Leopold too, just not as bad as shown in the OP's picture. Razer Black Widow too.
Some other people use the very same keyboards for months without issues, while mine do show that type of wear. I believe it has to do with your sweat. Some people are lucky, some not so much.

Now you know why the Ducky and Cherry boards already ship with dirty looking keys. Nice trick.
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« Reply #50 on: Thu, 27 January 2011, 09:11:11 »
I think Laser-etched caps got their quality reputation when beige keyboards were more common.  The process used on black caps (laser + infill) seems to be inferior to that on beige keyboards and even modern pad-printing in some cases.  Double-shot is the only process that we've seen that doesn't suck in pretty much every case.


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« Reply #51 on: Thu, 27 January 2011, 09:26:34 »
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Now you know why the Ducky and Cherry boards already ship with dirty looking keys. Nice trick.


haha Ill keep that in mind!

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« Reply #52 on: Thu, 27 January 2011, 09:37:27 »
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The Zowie Celeritas is not allowed in korean e-sport events. So the advertisement from korean e-sport-stars for this product is... you know.



Just wanna add that he does use the keyboard for torunaments though this picture is taking from a tour in China. I am pretty sure there was a video of him competing in a korean event. I think he takes off the keys when he plays, on the numpads, u just cant see it.



dont know much about keys, but double shots sounds alot more expensive to produce?
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Offline ajx

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« Reply #53 on: Thu, 27 January 2011, 14:23:15 »
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Here is an answer to your question:

Overall look on it
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Difference in high...
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the shape and the size of the keys of the filco red wasd keys do look the same like the ones on the Celeritas. I think the fitting hole inside the key is a bit too long but I would say if I file it down they will probably fit.

thx anyway
except i dislike having coloured keys with such full black keyboard :eyebrows:
where did you order it btw?
keyboardco (uk) or EK (us)?

Offline Arc'xer

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« Reply #54 on: Thu, 27 January 2011, 15:54:17 »
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I take that any advertisement like this does not attract customers while the product itself does, if you have a slight interest in keyboard. Only downside is the non coating on the keys.

I am not a huge gamer myself, so im not well informed with the esport, but how is it a keyboard is banned from any korean e-sports scenes? 0.o


Yes it's very strange they would ban it. It's not macro keyboard it doesn't have any input function key for saving macros or creating macros on-the-fly.

The only thing it has is repeater or turbo buttons like on the arcade sticks. Technically it could be considered a macro in the sense that you are automating repeated key presses but it's not really so. Because you can just go into the keyboard settings and reduce the delay and increase the repeat rate.

My guess is they ban it from the start so no issues are raised. And after reviewing the issue they lift it or keep the ban. Either way it's very disturbing trend how sponsoring occurs and yet that item is not legal, doesn't make sense.

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« Reply #55 on: Thu, 27 January 2011, 16:55:46 »
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The Zowie Celeritas is not allowed in korean e-sport events. So the advertisement from korean e-sport-stars for this product is... you know.

This is plain not true, unless for some reason you think KESPA (and only KESPA) is the definition of "korean e-sport events". KESPA is by far, not the only thing in town.
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« Reply #56 on: Sat, 29 January 2011, 08:30:34 »
The only issue I can imagine then would be the reconfiguration of windows key to ctrl key, that might be considered as a macro key? I assume that if there was any ban at all, it would be within the game of Starcraft 2.

But then again, the latest patch of sc2 allows reconfiguration of your keys as well.

Is there even any source to this statement of bifi85? He does not seem very active in this forum anyway...

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« Reply #57 on: Sat, 29 January 2011, 08:37:35 »
couldnt take better picture than this, had problem with the lightings, hope this helps





Using a Panasonic DMC-TZ3, very decent for its price a couple years ago...

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« Reply #58 on: Sat, 05 February 2011, 03:21:58 »
Had my zowie for 5days now and the keys still look perfectly new. Remember  guys dont eat at your computer and wash your fingers before using it :D

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« Reply #59 on: Sat, 05 February 2011, 03:24:42 »
Definitely has nothing to do with eating at your computer or how often you wash your hands. Has something to do with PH values, sweat and who knows what else. One day we gotta research this and make a keycap durability thread sorted by PH resistance.
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