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Offline turbocharged

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« on: Sun, 13 February 2011, 17:33:44 »
Figured I would start a mod thread for my IBM Model M. I don't really ever use it, but I figured this would be fun and maybe someone will want to buy it when I'm done and have a sweet custom keyboard.

Here it was after I cleaned it up inside and out. Notice the three ALT keys.





I dyed the main key caps yellow (Rit dye - Golden Yellow). This is from a single 20 minute soak at about 75C-80C with salt in the pot. My brewing thermometer is crucial to keep the temperatures in check....too hot and warped key caps...too cold and the dye doesn't really work.







And here it is after dying the modifier keys black (mostly because I wanted to get rid of having 3 ALT keys).  Black took much longer to dye (two 20 minute soaks between 70C and 80C).





UPDATE: Mods continue

Today I finished painting the case (dyeing really because it is the Duplicolor Fabric/Vinyl Paint) and started the bolt mod. I ordered the hardware for the bolt mod this afternoon from McMaster and went ahead and drilled all the holes (no pictures of that though).

Below I posted pictures of the keyboard all taken apart and the top/bottom the finished case. I masked off only a few things: on the top...just the led view holes...on the bottom I masked off some of the label so that it can still be identified as a 1391401 IBM Model M.

Note: Regular, clear packaging tape works great for masking before using the vinyl/fabric paint because it does not stick to it. It also does not stick to some rubbers, which is why the two rubber pads on the bottom are not dyed.







UPDATE: Bolt Mod and Dyeing Finished (Last update will be USB mod)

So I finished the bolt mod and assembly last night....what a tiring exercise of repetition...but it turned out well. I followed ripster's guide and I must say, he nailed it with this one. I even double check to make sure there was no good way around buying the M2 x 8mm x 0.4mm bolts, but that seemed to be the best....so thanks Ripster. Anyways pictures...

All the bolts/nuts/washers/tap



Bolt mod complete



And here is the finished dyed product (that still doesn't work because it needs the USB mod). There has been a lot of debate whether Rit's golden yellow can be actual yellow or if it is orange....well I found that it depends on lighting. It definitely has an orange tinge under low, incandescent lighting and clearly yellow under florescent lighting. Judge for your self...both pictures are without flash.





And a final picture comparing before and after

« Last Edit: Tue, 22 February 2011, 06:50:41 by turbocharged »
| Deck Legend Fire (MX Blacks) | KBC Poker X (MX Reds) | Cherry G80-11900LTMUS (MX Clears) |  Cherry G80-11900HRMUS (MX "Ghetto Reds")
| IBM Model M 1391401 (BS) | Goldtouch GTC-0033 Keypad (MX Browns) |

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« Reply #1 on: Thu, 17 February 2011, 15:28:48 »
Small update of beginning the bolt mod and finishing dyeing of the case...
| Deck Legend Fire (MX Blacks) | KBC Poker X (MX Reds) | Cherry G80-11900LTMUS (MX Clears) |  Cherry G80-11900HRMUS (MX "Ghetto Reds")
| IBM Model M 1391401 (BS) | Goldtouch GTC-0033 Keypad (MX Browns) |

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« Reply #2 on: Thu, 17 February 2011, 15:48:19 »
Did you have to sand/primer the keyboard casing first before painting/dyeing it?  It's looking good.  This is what I wanted to do if I could ever get my hands on a Space Saver for cheap...

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« Reply #3 on: Thu, 17 February 2011, 17:52:46 »
Nice job. The dye job in black looks really good.
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« Reply #4 on: Fri, 18 February 2011, 07:23:10 »
The case came out awesome.  Great job.  On the keys you dyed black, can you still see the printing, or did you dye them black enough that they appear blank?


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« Reply #5 on: Fri, 18 February 2011, 08:05:37 »
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The case came out awesome.  Great job.  On the keys you dyed black, can you still see the printing, or did you dye them black enough that they appear blank?

Thanks, and no not really. I originally was trying to make them near black w/ ghost like printing and while you could still see the printing while they were wet in the dye bath, after they cooled and dried they were pretty much blank. The only one that you can still read (and only when the lighting is absolutely perfect) is the Backspace key. I'm contemplating dyeing them again to make them "true" blanks, but it is so close now and the color looks so good, that I probably won't.
« Last Edit: Fri, 18 February 2011, 08:09:22 by turbocharged »
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« Reply #6 on: Fri, 18 February 2011, 16:57:10 »
Those orange  key caps look  neat.


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« Reply #7 on: Fri, 18 February 2011, 19:47:52 »
lol mw
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« Reply #8 on: Fri, 18 February 2011, 20:21:41 »
I really like it! :D

You wouldn't mind if I did the same thing to mine but a little different would you?

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« Reply #9 on: Fri, 18 February 2011, 20:48:16 »
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I really like it! :D

You wouldn't mind if I did the same thing to mine but a little different would you?

Go for it man.
| Deck Legend Fire (MX Blacks) | KBC Poker X (MX Reds) | Cherry G80-11900LTMUS (MX Clears) |  Cherry G80-11900HRMUS (MX "Ghetto Reds")
| IBM Model M 1391401 (BS) | Goldtouch GTC-0033 Keypad (MX Browns) |

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« Reply #10 on: Fri, 18 February 2011, 23:55:23 »
I actually already do have something similar to this. My black Customizer is red and purple (same split), and I have a Model M that is yellow and blue, also same split.

I've been thinking about an orange and green one, just for a nice offensively bright keyboard.

Edit: just to be clear, yours looks mad good. I've always like the contrasting colors on keyboards. Especially nice bright ones.

Hopefully my comment wasn't offensive...too much wine to realize I left out half of what I wanted to say.
« Last Edit: Fri, 18 February 2011, 23:58:19 by theferenc »
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« Reply #11 on: Sat, 19 February 2011, 09:40:27 »
I liked the orange and gray with the beige. They all just went  well together.


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« Reply #12 on: Sat, 19 February 2011, 10:13:11 »
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I liked the orange and gray with the beige. They all just went  well together.


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« Reply #13 on: Sat, 19 February 2011, 13:28:22 »
orange
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« Reply #14 on: Sat, 19 February 2011, 13:58:04 »
Its actually yellow...not sure why people think it is orange??
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« Reply #15 on: Sat, 19 February 2011, 14:23:59 »
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Its actually yellow...not sure why people think it is orange??


Those MW CRT are bad calibrated for sure plus being on a dark basement like the one he has must be the reason :D

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« Reply #16 on: Sat, 19 February 2011, 14:55:07 »
Actually, I do have a color calibrated monitor (gotta love stryker), and to me it looks golden. In other words, a slightly orangish yellow. Definitely more orange than my yellow keys, but I used the Lemon Yellow dye, rather than the Golden Yellow.

But yes, lack of calibration, a high preponderance of color blindness among males, it having a small amount of orange in it...all of these might be reasons that some see it as orange, rather than yellow.

Regardless of what color you want to call it, I call it "awesome".
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« Reply #17 on: Sat, 19 February 2011, 18:25:46 »
Golden yellow is still yellow. Here is another picture from my phone (absolutely horrendous quality, so didn't want it in the main post)....but it is most definitely yellow.

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« Reply #18 on: Sat, 19 February 2011, 19:09:32 »
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« Reply #19 on: Sat, 19 February 2011, 19:17:02 »
There's  nothing wrong with  my monitors. Those keys  appeared orange on every  monitor I  got (except for the  Mac because  it's monochrome).


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« Reply #20 on: Sat, 19 February 2011, 19:19:05 »
I think more GeekHackers need to get their eyes checked. Thank goodness I have glasses.

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« Reply #21 on: Sat, 19 February 2011, 20:01:06 »
thats a cool orange and black keyboard

it matches gh dark theme
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« Reply #22 on: Sat, 19 February 2011, 20:49:31 »
Definitely yellow. But still a bit more orangey than the yellow on that smiley key or the lemon yellow that I used on my keys. But an orangey yellow is definitely not orange, but rather yellow with a slight shift towards red on the color wheel.

But still yellow.

Maybe it's just moving away from us too quickly?
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« Reply #23 on: Sat, 19 February 2011, 23:00:40 »
Eye Test:

1. Do you think it's yellow? - You're OK.

2. Do you think it's orange? - You need glasses.

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« Reply #24 on: Sat, 19 February 2011, 23:05:59 »
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Definitely yellow. But still a bit more orangey than the yellow on that smiley key or the lemon yellow that I used on my keys. But an orangey yellow is definitely not orange, but rather yellow with a slight shift towards red on the color wheel.

But still yellow.


I think you nailed it...not pure yellow, but much closer to yellow than orange.

You should post pictures of your Lemon Yellow board. I have only seen one other set of keys done in Lemon Yellow and the yellow looked really washed out (the reason I went with Golden Yellow), but it was probably due to a poor dye job.
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| IBM Model M 1391401 (BS) | Goldtouch GTC-0033 Keypad (MX Browns) |

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« Reply #25 on: Sun, 20 February 2011, 01:38:28 »
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Eye Test:

1. Do you think it's yellow? - You're OK.

2. Do you think it's orange? - You need glasses.


I see them Yellow!

But still need glasses...I will have them made by tuesday :D

I should make a pic from my Realforce 91 UBY to show another yellow on this thread!

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« Reply #26 on: Sun, 20 February 2011, 13:10:18 »
Both of these are a bit older, but you get the idea, probably.




Edit: You know, I'm actually starting to think maybe it's a lighting issue. Your indoor shots definitely have a slight orange tint to them, while your outside shot is definitely more vivid yellow.

Both of those were taken with a webcam in front of a window with sunlight coming on, and all my light bulbs are full spectrum.
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« Reply #27 on: Sun, 20 February 2011, 15:22:40 »
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Both of these are a bit older, but you get the idea, probably.

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Edit: You know, I'm actually starting to think maybe it's a lighting issue. Your indoor shots definitely have a slight orange tint to them, while your outside shot is definitely more vivid yellow.

Both of those were taken with a webcam in front of a window with sunlight coming on, and all my light bulbs are full spectrum.


Now  those are  yellow keys.


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« Reply #28 on: Sun, 20 February 2011, 20:07:29 »
Nice Wooden-Themed brown and orange keyboard ;)
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« Reply #29 on: Mon, 21 February 2011, 12:00:17 »
kidchunks is giving away a free case if you wanted to have 2 variations of the case.  Might make for a better sale when you're done with it.