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Offline itlnstln

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« Reply #90 on: Thu, 03 March 2011, 09:24:57 »
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In the meantime..

How's last year Ducky - the iRocks keyboards doing?


iRocks?  I think all of 2 people bought that one.  The layout was horrible (among other things).  With the lack of G80-1800-type layouts in the US, they really ****ed up the opportunity to do something awesome there.
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« Reply #91 on: Thu, 03 March 2011, 09:26:55 »
So does this mean Filco might be going out of business? Considered getting one because they seem to be popular and, from what I've read, pretty good. Not so sure anymore.
Should I pick one up in case Filco dies, or will they be "replaced"?
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« Reply #92 on: Thu, 03 March 2011, 09:29:38 »
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Should I pick one up in case Filco dies, or will they be "replaced"?

I keep a NIB one, which I will sell to you (for ridiculous amount of money) after they close. Soon.
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« Reply #93 on: Thu, 03 March 2011, 09:54:40 »
If someone could explain how Filco will be able to compete with Leopold, I'd love to hear it. They aren't going out of business of course, but I doubt they'll survive for long.
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Offline noodles256

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« Reply #94 on: Thu, 03 March 2011, 10:03:04 »
EK has leopolds up $99.

They say it is preorder price.
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« Reply #95 on: Thu, 03 March 2011, 10:05:55 »
Filco already has its reputation. 139$ free shipped is not bad in the US.
Also Filco aesthetically is much better than the gayish Leopold.
Filco will eventually has dual layered pcb.
Also there are a lot of people who prefer costar stabilizers.
Oh, I have almost forgot that the Leopold spacebar is a pain in the ass.
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« Reply #96 on: Thu, 03 March 2011, 10:18:47 »
Noodles: I think Majestouch just said in this thread that the $99 is the permanent price for the tenkeyless boards.

RiGS: I think Ripster just said elsewhere that the Leopolds will also feature a dual-layered pcb.

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Offline itlnstln

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« Reply #97 on: Thu, 03 March 2011, 10:23:40 »
I bet Filco will drop their price, or in other words, they should drop their price.  It just depends on how arrogant they are.  Soulhunter was quoted from Costar that their full-size (unbranded) keyboards are $50 for some MOQ.  If that's the case, Diatec's raking in a pretty decent profit from the Filco line once you factor in other expenses.  They probably have room to drop their price some and still profit.  Beyond that, I think there will be a marketing campaign to show Filco as a higher-quality alternative to explain a higher retail price.  Coming from a retail background, I can tell you that customers typically see right through that bull****.  Then again, never underestimate the power of



Just ask Toyota.
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« Reply #98 on: Thu, 03 March 2011, 10:30:05 »
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Noodles: I think Majestouch just said in this thread that the $99 is the permanent price for the tenkeyless boards.

RiGS: I think Ripster just said elsewhere that the Leopolds will also feature a dual-layered pcb.

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$99 is such a competitive price. That is smexy
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Offline Dr.Pepper

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« Reply #99 on: Thu, 03 March 2011, 10:35:39 »
At $99 If they come in red ( switches ), I will get one, but otherwise I'll be happy with my Das. Although that blue Filco is kinda sweet. ( My mother would like the pink one as well )

edit reason: Forgot to add switches
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Offline Dr.Pepper

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« Reply #100 on: Thu, 03 March 2011, 10:39:32 »
I thought it was about 2.15 at the price of the realforce on elite keyboards.
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Offline itlnstln

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« Reply #101 on: Thu, 03 March 2011, 10:42:41 »
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Here's the question of the day.

Why would ANYONE buy last years model of Topre when you can buy 3 Leopolds for the same price (assume you buy a few Topre esc keys if you are a mathematical whiz)?


It's not Cherry-based?

That's not to say that Topres aren't overpriced, but it is an apples-to-oranges comparison on a certain level.  That's like saying that you can buy 2 Camrys for the cost of a BMW 5-series.  True, and quality wise, that might be correct, but you would be ignoring other, important factors.
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Offline itlnstln

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« Reply #102 on: Thu, 03 March 2011, 10:45:54 »
You can get a Realforce for as low as $215 on EK.
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Offline zakazak

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« Reply #103 on: Thu, 03 March 2011, 11:30:49 »
hmm the leopolods are pretty cheap + i like the cable tunnel or what ever it is called in english.

i wonder if they are rly any worse than the filco´s. hope someone will write a review soon :)
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« Reply #104 on: Thu, 03 March 2011, 11:45:22 »
I detached/attached the cable on my HHKB a ton, and it never caused a problem, but to Majestouch's point, the Leopolds' (and Duckys')  jack may not be as sturdy.  One thing I noticed on my Ducky, and I see the same thing on the Leopolds, is that the amount of space around the USB connector on the 'board is small, and routing the cable to the left or right seems like it would create a lot of stress on the cable/connector.  I run mine straight out as it took an uncomfortable amount of effort to try routing out the side.
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Offline ch_123

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« Reply #105 on: Thu, 03 March 2011, 11:48:36 »
Quote from: RiGS;304216
Filco already has its reputation. 139$ free shipped is not bad in the US.
Also Filco aesthetically is much better than the gayish Leopold.
Filco will eventually has dual layered pcb.
Also there are a lot of people who prefer costar stabilizers.
Oh, I have almost forgot that the Leopold spacebar is a pain in the ass.


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Offline pm_

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« Reply #106 on: Thu, 03 March 2011, 14:09:55 »
Quote from: ripster;304246
Here's the question of the day.

Why would ANYONE buy last years model of Topre when you can buy 3 Leopolds for the same price (assume you buy a few Topre esc keys if you are a mathematical whiz)?


Yeah, add in a few keys and shipping, and that tenkeyless is close to $300 vs. the Leopold similarly configured for around $120.  That is quite a price premium to pay, especially for something that might be marginally better.  

However, I'm still interested in a Topre at some point, and may be more inclined to try one if it was only twice as much as a Leopold. :)
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« Reply #107 on: Thu, 03 March 2011, 14:27:41 »
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However, I'm still interested in a Topre at some point, and may be more inclined to try one if it was only twice as much as a Leopold. :)


In that case, you can have my gently-used 103U for $240 shipped to anywhere in the CONUS. Then I can buy a spare Leopold to hold in reserve in my private vault (by which I mean gun safe).
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Offline Dr.Pepper

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« Reply #108 on: Thu, 03 March 2011, 14:27:49 »
I want a happy hacking ish keyboard that lights up like a deck, has cherry red switches, sturdy non mini USB cable, n-key rollover over USB, lights up in any color you want, no matter what mood you're in. And most of all has no "windows" key.


All for about $99. That will never happen.  But in the event that the deck keyboards come in cherry reds, or these do, I'll be springing for one of these.
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Offline Dr.Pepper

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« Reply #109 on: Thu, 03 March 2011, 14:35:44 »
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Offline rustybarnacle

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« Reply #110 on: Thu, 03 March 2011, 14:52:49 »
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It's so pretty and domey.
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Ick ick ick.  Stupid domes.  Just gimme a blank whatever key.  And yes, I realize i can just harvest/buy a couple of modifier keys from whoever, but then they won't be exactly the same material/feel/shape/look/whatever as the rest of the keys, and my left eye will start twitching...
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« Reply #111 on: Thu, 03 March 2011, 15:13:51 »
I just confirmed that the alt - meta - control keys are all identical on the das blank version. So I'm happy. ( Yeah there's no dome )
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Offline pm_

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« Reply #112 on: Thu, 03 March 2011, 15:15:49 »
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In that case, you can have my gently-used 103U for $240 shipped to anywhere in the CONUS. Then I can buy a spare Leopold to hold in reserve in my private vault (by which I mean gun safe).


Guess I forgot to mention, no full size keyboards for me ever again.  :p

And while I eventually do want one, $200 kb's are currently out of my price range.
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Offline godofdeath

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« Reply #113 on: Thu, 03 March 2011, 15:33:15 »
No full size preorder I'm sad
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Offline neo

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« Reply #114 on: Thu, 03 March 2011, 15:34:17 »
That Windows logo doesn't bother me (although the knowledge that I've payed for it royalties to Microsoft somewhat does), but the domes are really ugly.
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Offline theferenc

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« Reply #115 on: Thu, 03 March 2011, 15:36:05 »
Because keyboards are like cars. Every year, a new model with new technology comes out, the obseletes the old one.

Oh, wait...
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Offline wongster

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« Reply #116 on: Thu, 03 March 2011, 16:17:13 »
I've been wondering if EK will include any accessories/extras with the Leopold. Has anyone heard anything about that?
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« Reply #117 on: Thu, 03 March 2011, 16:24:33 »
Lol, I actually love the feel of those domed windows keys. they should make all the buttons windows buttons
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Offline rustybarnacle

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« Reply #118 on: Thu, 03 March 2011, 16:26:11 »
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I just confirmed that the alt - meta - control keys are all identical on the das blank version. So I'm happy. ( Yeah there's no dome )


I have both a printed and non printed Das Keyboard, and neither have domed keys.  Maybe the domed thing is a new-ish requirement?
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Offline digitalleftovers

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« Reply #119 on: Thu, 03 March 2011, 16:40:31 »
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I have both a printed and non printed Das Keyboard, and neither have domed keys.  Maybe the domed thing is a new-ish requirement?

AFIK, the dome relates to the windows Vista/7 logo, although, it doesn't seem like the timing of availability is consistent.  Either there are quite a few keyboards that were manufactured before that specification that continued to be sold, or manufacturers were just slow to comply.  I am betting its the later since that key requires them to use a separate mold.  If I were a manufacturer, I would be more than a little annoyed at microsoft for not only charging me to use the logo, but adding additional expenses to my process.

Edit: I bought a filco from EK just 6 months ago (blank) and it does not have the domes.
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