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Offline Wogrim

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« Reply #90 on: Mon, 07 March 2011, 22:05:21 »
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i got a paypal confirmation. does that count ? lol
i thought i did when i saw a email from EK...but it was their newsletter


that's exactly what i have, oh well i guess i'm not as worried
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Offline EZjiji

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« Reply #91 on: Mon, 07 March 2011, 22:13:32 »
I also got a paypal confirmation.
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Offline fds

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« Reply #92 on: Mon, 07 March 2011, 22:28:21 »
paypal only here too
and it only charged 30% of the cost for some reason
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Yeah I\'d defo keep it. I got 3 filcos here and all of them ping.  Didnt think anything of it until I read on here. Its 2 gen1\'s and a ninja and they all do it. I just hear it as all part of the filco sound and I quite like it. It must be extremely common as all 3 of mine and my friends does it. So out of the 4 Filcos I\'ve used all of them from different gens and batches all do it. I\'m sure if I get another and it doesnt ping you\'ll see a thread from me saying "WTF my filco doesnt ping!! return?!?"

Offline Engine

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« Reply #93 on: Mon, 07 March 2011, 23:08:16 »
Leopold for $99 or Das for $129?  Which should I get for an intro to not only Cherry springs but Cherry Blue?
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Offline manfaux

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« Reply #94 on: Mon, 07 March 2011, 23:11:39 »
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Leopold for $99 or Das for $129?  Which should I get for an intro to not only Cherry springs but Cherry Blue?  I would spend the extra 30 clams if enough peopld thought it would be worth it for the Das.


Unless you REALLY need a numpad,

Leopold seems to have better aesthetics in my eyes.
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Offline Engine

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« Reply #95 on: Mon, 07 March 2011, 23:19:31 »
I don't need a numpad.  I like one but don't need one.  I'm more for performance and yes you're right about Leos being better looking.  Well, I suppose the switch will be the same in any board right?  It's just about "packaging".  By the way, are you getting a Leo?
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Offline manfaux

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« Reply #96 on: Mon, 07 March 2011, 23:52:54 »
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I don't need a numpad.  I like one but don't need one.  I'm more for performance and yes you're right about Leos being better looking.  Well, I suppose the switch will be the same in any board right?  It's just about "packaging".  By the way, are you getting a Leo?


Not now!

I will probably get one with Reds later when I settle down at my new dig, if EK does end up selling them.
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Offline Engine

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« Reply #97 on: Tue, 08 March 2011, 00:00:16 »
The email from EK did "suggest" a future batch of kbs but I don't know if that means the same or different leo switches.  Maybe Reds or dunno.
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Offline mjacob

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« Reply #98 on: Tue, 08 March 2011, 00:05:20 »
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The email from EK did "suggest" a future batch of kbs but I don't know if that means the same or different leo switches.  Maybe Reds or dunno.

It also suggested that the pre-order price won't be the final price:

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Leopold Tenkeyless Cherry MX Keyboards are finally available for Pre-Order at a GREAT introductory price!

I wonder what they'll jump to when all the dust settles. Maybe I should hedge my bets by buying 2 now just in case I like them and end up wanting one for home and one for work.
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Offline wanabe

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« Reply #99 on: Tue, 08 March 2011, 00:20:22 »
you could, but i'm guessing regular price won't be significantly higher if it goes up
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Offline Armando Penblade

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« Reply #100 on: Tue, 08 March 2011, 00:55:35 »
It's odd that the email is worded that way, because Bruce of EliteKeyboards recently said in what I thought were pretty clear terms that the price was set very specifically at $99:

http://geekhack.org/showpost.php?p=303876&postcount=51

No idea, though.
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Offline Suchadropper

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« Reply #101 on: Tue, 08 March 2011, 00:57:49 »
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It wasn't really a pre-order in the Amazon sense (i.e., order now, it'll ship on X date, pay when it ships). This was more of an order now, pay now, sit around and wait until it ships on a date TBD.

Call me cynical, but I wonder if EK has even ordered the boards yet, or if our pre-orders are fronting the capital for that.


That could be true. I might cancel one today.
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Online iMav

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« Reply #102 on: Tue, 08 March 2011, 02:45:53 »
I really couldn't care less whether the preorders are funding the initial order or not.  Whatever he has to do to get rolling with the new 'boards is fine with me.
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Offline Brummell

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« Reply #103 on: Tue, 08 March 2011, 06:14:09 »
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Anyone get a confirmation email from EK yet?  (


Last night at around 3AM.
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Offline ThoughtThief

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« Reply #104 on: Tue, 08 March 2011, 08:15:11 »
Also got my confirmation last night around 3am EST.
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Offline muchadoaboutnothing

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« Reply #105 on: Tue, 08 March 2011, 09:10:22 »
I'm tempted to pick up my first tenkeyless, but strictly speaking, I don't need it.

I have the Filco Majestouch Tactile Touch "Otaku" NKRO (in @ EK for warranty service), ABS M1 (stolen by my father), a Filco Majestouch Tactile Touch (stolen by my brother), a Rosewill RK-9000 (currently using), and a BlackWidow (currently in the living room).

So mentally (a.k.a., me tricking myself) I only have two keyboards (since that's all that I have in front of me). However if I want an experimental board I might was well pick up a Topre tenkeyless, but then I'm making two changes at once (Torpe switches/form factor). I could hate the tenkeyless or the topre switch and then hate the board as a whole.

Ah, choices...

Also, the budget only permits one, and the Topre would be a stretch, so don't recommend both.
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Offline nvarsj

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« Reply #106 on: Tue, 08 March 2011, 09:45:55 »
I ordered one as well. I've regretted selling my Filco - and after hearing some blue cherries in action recently, I can't help myself. I need a click!
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Offline 3one5

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« Reply #107 on: Tue, 08 March 2011, 09:46:19 »
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Also got my confirmation last night around 3am EST.


Me 3 but mine came in at 12:53am which means I'll probably get mine first :)
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Offline Chobopants

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« Reply #108 on: Tue, 08 March 2011, 13:05:56 »
Ok I waffled a lot on the tenkeyless thing but after some thought I decided that this was the best way for me to have a cherry blue board (and support one of our own as well):

FC200RC/AB Leopold Tenkeyless Tactile Click Keyboard
Item# 460   $99.00 USD   1   $99.00 USD
CF5F-SKU-1BLU Blue Skull Keycap (Row 5+6, CherryMX)
Item# 3002   $9.50 USD   2   $19.00 USD
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Offline manfaux

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« Reply #109 on: Tue, 08 March 2011, 13:18:24 »
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It wasn't really a pre-order in the Amazon sense (i.e., order now, it'll ship on X date, pay when it ships). This was more of an order now, pay now, sit around and wait until it ships on a date TBD.


That's how pre-ordering works son, you have to pay first. What's the last time you pre ordered something and they didn't take your money first?
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Offline mjacob

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« Reply #110 on: Tue, 08 March 2011, 13:23:13 »
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What's the last time you pre ordered something and they didn't take your money first?


Uhhh... every time I've pre-ordered something from Amazon.
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Offline manfaux

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« Reply #111 on: Tue, 08 March 2011, 14:17:07 »
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Uhhh... every time I've pre-ordered something from Amazon.


and guess what, EK isn't a multi-billion-dollar enterprise like Amazon, and Amazon never guarantees the actual shipment date, you can pre order diablo 3 right now ffs.
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Offline EZjiji

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« Reply #112 on: Tue, 08 March 2011, 14:39:49 »
Does a Red esc key and a key puller come with the keyboard? The EK confirmation email says something about being allowed to separately ship items.
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Offline hansmuff

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« Reply #113 on: Tue, 08 March 2011, 14:48:52 »
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Does a Red esc key and a key puller come with the keyboard? The EK confirmation email says something about being allowed to separately ship items.


Actually, the product page states in detail what comes with the package. A red Esc key and/or puller aren't part of it.
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Offline duckyduck

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« Reply #114 on: Tue, 08 March 2011, 15:10:20 »
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and guess what, EK isn't a multi-billion-dollar enterprise like Amazon, and Amazon never guarantees the actual shipment date, you can pre order diablo 3 right now ffs.


Being a small business does not make you exempt from agreements with credit card companies. Of the big 3 at least Mastercard does not allow the card to be charged before the product is shipped.
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Offline phillip

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« Reply #115 on: Tue, 08 March 2011, 15:17:14 »
Quote from: manfaux;307844
and guess what, EK isn't a multi-billion-dollar enterprise like Amazon, and Amazon never guarantees the actual shipment date, you can pre order diablo 3 right now ffs.


Well, you did ask the question.  I've preordered from other places that haven't charged me until the item ships (store.nisamerica.com is an example).  I don't care if EK charges and ships later, provided the boards actually ship at the end of march.
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Offline muchadoaboutnothing

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« Reply #116 on: Tue, 08 March 2011, 15:32:33 »
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Being a small business does not make you exempt from agreements with credit card companies. Of the big 3 at least Mastercard does not allow the card to be charged before the product is shipped.

What part of the Mastercard Merchant agreement prevents charging stuff before shipping? It is a more common practice to do an authorization hold which merely falls off after a period of time if it is not turned into a formal charge (guaranteeing the availability of funds forgiving the account getting suspended, etc.), but can go to a formal charge if it ships. That's more common, but I don't know if it is explicitly against the rules to charge people before an item ships.

Also, Paypal is the payment facilitator and holds the payment in escrow - they charge the card, then fund the money to EK. If there's a dispute PayPal gets involved. So as a payment facilitator PayPal operates under different rules.

(if you have a dispute with Paypal, you can dispute with your credit card company...but if you have a dispute with the seller, and you just go to the card company, they'll freeze your paypal account)
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Offline neo

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« Reply #117 on: Tue, 08 March 2011, 15:47:30 »
Many businesses will only charge your credit card when they are ready to ship. EliteKeyboards apparently charges immediately even though the shipment date is still at least three weeks away and isn't known precisely. It is an inconvenience no doubt, but only a minor one assuming boards actually ship when promised.
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Offline muchadoaboutnothing

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« Reply #118 on: Tue, 08 March 2011, 15:55:24 »
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Many businesses will only charge your credit card when they are ready to ship. EliteKeyboards apparently charges immediately even though the shipment date is still at least three weeks away and isn't known precisely. It is an inconvenience no doubt, but only a minor one assuming boards actually ship when promised.

Again, most businesses do not use Paypal, EK does. I don't think Paypal allows such a behavior.

Any merchant with brains does an authorization hold at the time of the order being placed if they don't charge immediately. That immediately impacts the available balance but does not formally hit the card. That authorization hold is why it can be easy to overdraft a debit card when you go to a gas station - it typically tries to place an authorization hold of $50 or more. Once you have an actual amount, the actual charge goes through for the authorization hold amount or less.
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Offline Chobopants

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« Reply #119 on: Tue, 08 March 2011, 15:58:12 »
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Again, most businesses do not use Paypal, EK does. I don't think Paypal allows such a behavior.

Any merchant with brains does an authorization hold at the time of the order being placed if they don't charge immediately. That immediately impacts the available balance but does not formally hit the card. That authorization hold is why it can be easy to overdraft a debit card when you go to a gas station - it typically tries to place an authorization hold of $50 or more. Once you have an actual amount, the actual charge goes through for the authorization hold amount or less.


This is quite true. Back when I was a college kid with my first real debit card I got hit with a number of overdrafts due to this. I quickly learned to keep a few hundred $ buffer in my checking account.
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