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First i have to thank battlesheep to post here in this forum to give us informations about the Trigger. Its always nice to have the chance to talk to a man from the R&D to clear technical questions.
I reported about the Trigger in german forums and I got many questions about the different switch types, with which the Trigger will be offered.
thx, and your welcome
you dont seem to deserve your nick at all ^^
Could you please tell me, that the Trigger will be offered with the 4 different switch types in germany too? or will there be only one switch type with german layout and the other switch types are just available with the US layout?
If there is only one switch type available with the german layout, please make the Trigger with redMX.
I tried to convince the branches to carry all 4 switch versions, but the last i heard was that EU and US will carry a single version first, and maybe introduce more versions later if there is enough feedback asking for it.
Its not about what the branches think is right, it has a lot to do with inventory systems of our own warehouses and those of the shops we work with... having 4 versions creates a big overhead in inventory management and can cause confusion (customer ordered black but got blue...) In the end, unfortunately it boils down to shops in EU and the US (north and south) being SOOOO organized and worrying about warehouse efficiency SOOOOoOooOooOoO much, that they try to avoid carrying several versions of the same product, and some even REFUSE to carry more than one version... :/
I know that in at least some if not most other places in the world shops will carry 4 versions, or will offer to ORDER any version you want from us and then have it a few weeks later...
In the end im affraid theres nothing we can do about it, even the branch offices have their hands tied :/
It all boils down to most shops not WANTING different switch versions, and instead of diversifying their products, they actually prefer having 4 different brands of keyboards with the same switch... dont ask me why...
I recommend you to contact your favorite e-tailer or re-tailer and keep asking them, nicely, to carry keyboards with different cherry switches, or at least the one of your preference (red)
The good news is that since we work with amazon and other worldwide e-tailers, you guys might be able to order all 4 versions through one of them...
Im trying to get this worked out but like i said, we cant force them to do what we think is right... in the end they listen to YOU guys more than us...
so like i said, if you want something, keep telling them... just keep waving your hard earned cash in their face until they finally say "OOOKAAAYYY" and take it ^^
First, thanks for coming here and posting!
Sorry but Dech Legend Fire (which has been out for some time now) already has red backlit LEDs.
oh wow, didnt know that! looks like a tank could roll over it
kinda heavy tho...
Oh hey i wanted to ask you guys, about backlight... Trigger has close to no light between the keycaps... only the key icons themselves are illuminated.
Do you prefer this or having the space around the keycaps illuminated as well?
with only the keycaps lit up its easier to read them and more relaxing on the eyes... but you cant see the keycaps so you MIGHT not hit the keys that well?
Some people have described the Clears that way, but I think it is not completely accurate. Not only is the resistance higher, but the tactile bump is bigger also. The overall feel is more like a rubber dome (I'm probably getting spanked by the mech purists for saying that...), but still with mid-travel actuation. Once it has actuated it feels a bit like Cherry MX Black.
Because it has both the familiarity of the tactile bump and the linear feel, I think that it will be quite well received by gamers (and others) who are new to mechanical keyboards.
The drawback is that the large bump incurs more friction. I have not experienced it myself, but I have heard that older more worn keyboards with Clears could have a diminished tactile feel on the most-often used keys.
mhhhh interesting... thx a lot for the info!
i actually like browns for the same reason... its kinda what your used to from older KBs, and it just feels better to have a bumpy tactile feedback...
though the latter is def personal preference... if id be playing SC or SC2 and hit insane APMs id probably prefer blues or reds since they feel softer and blues have a stronger actuation feedback
btw, funny about that isnt it? browns n blues are about the same resistance wise, BUT blues feel softer than browns...
i asked 2 dozens of people to try it, friends n coworkers, they all said blue feels slightly to notably softer than brown... but if you take two switches and push them against each other, they move in at about the same speed...
i played around with a sample of this hybrid switch from japan, which uses capacitive tech to detect when a switch is actuated, but uses rubber and spring as well...
whats it called again? let me check... oh yeah, REALFORCE...
i thought id love it since its supposed to have the pros of mech and rubber dome combined... but it felt terrible...
cant believe its 199$ :O
feels really sluggish and my hands feel tired after only a few keystrokes... the keys depress slow and... sluggishly... nobody here likes it, our sample is just lying in the corner =_='
so... yeah, im def interested in more tactile actuation feedback (without a click) so you guys got me interested in the clears and i already ordered samples
Some people like to mod the Clear to have a lighter coiled spring (called "Ergo Clear"), but I quite like it as it is. The tactile bump is not so much in the main spring. With the original main spring it cushions the stroke very nicely after actuation, and I find that a quite nice property when I type. The Clear switch has therefore become my favourite of all the Cherry MX switches.
looking forward to test it... sounds like stronger brown switches to me and until i got a trigger (brown switches), i was using zowies celeritas with brown switches here at work and thought, if only the feedback was stronger and the keystroke termination wasnt that harsh and sudden...
thx for all the great info and suggestions guys!