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Offline battlesheep

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« Reply #60 on: Tue, 19 July 2011, 05:14:57 »
yeah i heard of TTs white KB, i think i saw a pic somewhere... white backlight looks NIIICEEE imo...
im surprised SS hasnt done it since it would match their kinda style... and yeah your right, most LEDs are pretty monochrome...

btw, noodle, i think you hate the power brick cause you think its mandatory right?
its not like that, you dont NEED an external PSU to use trigger... its just an add on for people who want more USB power :)

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« Reply #61 on: Tue, 19 July 2011, 15:55:26 »
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yeah i heard of TTs white KB, i think i saw a pic somewhere... white backlight looks NIIICEEE imo...
im surprised SS hasnt done it since it would match their kinda style... and yeah your right, most LEDs are pretty monochrome...

btw, noodle, i think you hate the power brick cause you think its mandatory right?
its not like that, you dont NEED an external PSU to use trigger... its just an add on for people who want more USB power :)

But the product costs some amount more because it comes with a power brick, and additional electronics inside to deal with it.  It seems silly that you even expect me to pay for that.

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« Reply #62 on: Tue, 19 July 2011, 16:34:34 »
He just said that it doesn't come with the power brick and doesn't require it, and as for a USB hub costing more because it has to deal with a power port... it's ~30 cents worth of parts and PCB real estate.
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« Reply #63 on: Tue, 19 July 2011, 19:06:14 »
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He just said that it doesn't come with the power brick and doesn't require it, and as for a USB hub costing more because it has to deal with a power port... it's ~30 cents worth of parts and PCB real estate.

Oops, yeah my bad.  I didn't catch that he said the brick is "an add on".  If it really is "buy it separately" then that's cool.

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« Reply #64 on: Tue, 19 July 2011, 19:14:14 »
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Oops, yeah my bad.  I didn't catch that he said the brick is "an add on".  If it really is "buy it separately" then that's cool.


What really matter is how old is your MB and how piky are the protection on its USB ports.

On my recent Asrock, I have my Xarmor connected to the USB ports of my Qpad, and in turn I have a couple of usb devices connected to the the the last keyboard of the chain.

Both are backlit and anithyng works.

Surely on a 5 years old MB I can't do it because theu cut the power when the 500mA limit is reached (or even before). So an additional power source can be useful, but not mandatory.
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« Reply #65 on: Wed, 20 July 2011, 20:34:06 »
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He just said that it doesn't come with the power brick and doesn't require it, and as for a USB hub costing more because it has to deal with a power port... it's ~30 cents worth of parts and PCB real estate.
might be even less than that :D
you have to use a PCB anyways for the MCU (keyboard controller), and most of them have a USB port built in...
so all you have to add in cost is some additional SMD components and then the USB connectors themselves, thats it :)

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What really matter is how old is your MB and how piky are the protection on its USB ports.
On my recent Asrock, I have my Xarmor connected to the USB ports of my Qpad, and in turn I have a couple of usb devices connected to the the the last keyboard of the chain.
Both are backlit and anithyng works.
Surely on a 5 years old MB I can't do it because theu cut the power when the 500mA limit is reached (or even before). So an additional power source can be useful, but not mandatory.
exactly! :) gigabyte even advertises that they have 1.5-2.7A per USB port.

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« Reply #66 on: Thu, 21 July 2011, 01:12:54 »
But then a lot of people didn't want to wait and bought it via amazon.co.uk instead.

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« Reply #67 on: Thu, 21 July 2011, 19:05:36 »
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some more infos:
- 4 versions: BlackMX BrownMX BlueMX RedMX(!)
- detachable Handwrist
- Different Light-Modes (5levels+2modes)


Is there any chance at all for a version using Cherry MX Clears? Currently the only board manufacturer with clears is Deck, and they don't exactly have the whole economy of scale thing going.
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« Reply #68 on: Thu, 21 July 2011, 19:11:02 »
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Is there any chance at all for a version using Cherry MX Clears? Currently the only board manufacturer with clears is Deck, and they don't exactly have the whole economy of scale thing going.


Clears are unavailable on the Asian market, so I assume that is a request not to easy to satisfy. Btw,  happy if I'm being wrong.
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« Reply #69 on: Thu, 21 July 2011, 19:12:33 »
Damn. Quick, get some SC2 pros to use a Deck tactile!
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« Reply #70 on: Thu, 21 July 2011, 19:40:13 »
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Damn. Quick, get some SC2 pros to use a Deck tactile!


A clear filco, in limited edition, could be even better to advertise the clear switches
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« Reply #71 on: Thu, 21 July 2011, 19:55:08 »
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A clear filco, in limited edition, could be even better to advertise the clear switches

If only!  I'm about ready to build myself a damn clear filco because it just looks more squared away and professional than a Deck, and I have a serious jones to try a board with plate-mounted clears...  if only I could find one!
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« Reply #72 on: Thu, 21 July 2011, 21:29:25 »
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If only!  I'm about ready to build myself


The good  news is that in basic keyboards, even if plate mounted, you have to desolder just 208 terminals and not 416, you don't have to remove and replace the leds, and the soldering islands of the switches are large enough, so no big desoldering problems. I think is matter of one or two hour of work, depending on the skill and the equipment available, nothing like my xarmor that required 5 or 6 hour of work.
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« Reply #73 on: Thu, 21 July 2011, 22:28:51 »
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Is there any chance at all for a version using Cherry MX Clears? Currently the only board manufacturer with clears is Deck, and they don't exactly have the whole economy of scale thing going.
i thought cherry clears are a customized brown switch with stronger spring? kinda like a brown switches with black springs...
havent tried them, find it hard to believe they are worth it to have yet another KB version...

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The good  news is that in basic keyboards, even if plate mounted, you have to desolder just 208 terminals and not 416, you don't have to remove and replace the leds, and the soldering islands of the switches are large enough, so no big desoldering problems. I think is matter of one or two hour of work, depending on the skill and the equipment available, nothing like my xarmor that required 5 or 6 hour of work.
id say depending on skill level its 1-12 hours of work depending on skill level :D
not sure how heat resistant the plastic of the switches is actually...
if it is, then a heatgun might work well?
« Last Edit: Thu, 21 July 2011, 22:31:41 by battlesheep »

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« Reply #74 on: Thu, 21 July 2011, 22:36:19 »
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uhhhhh ok...


i thought cherry clears are a customized brown switch with stronger spring?


No, it's a  more tactile switch that has also a stronger spring than both blacks and browns. And is commonly available in European boards.

The custom one is the Ergo clear switch, made with the spring from brown/blue/red switches and the clear stem. IMO by far the best cherry swich available, incredibly good for typing and
while good for gaming.
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« Reply #75 on: Fri, 22 July 2011, 17:36:39 »
Kinda ridiculous that the order still went through even though people's order were changed. what was the point of the email? Don't even send it if you still are going to charge people.

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« Reply #76 on: Fri, 22 July 2011, 18:25:36 »
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i thought cherry clears are a customized brown switch with stronger spring? kinda like a brown switches with black springs...
havent tried them, find it hard to believe they are worth it to have yet another KB version...

Nope, they're a legitimate Cherry part. You can see them in the switch wiki if you like. They are very tactile and with a high activation force, but no click. Only Deck and Cherry corp themselves offer products using them though, no one else seems to know about them.
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« Reply #77 on: Mon, 25 July 2011, 11:46:28 »
So I'm about to receive my spawn.  I actually missed the fedex man by 10 minutes when I came home from playing hockey, got the fedex note.  I would love to get a trigger;  What's the eta on this board in the US?

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« Reply #78 on: Mon, 25 July 2011, 11:51:28 »
Looks like the ugly child of a g15 and a blackwidow :/

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« Reply #79 on: Mon, 25 July 2011, 21:01:20 »
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dont sit there and act like carter didnt do anything.

im sure he did something... im sure he did a LOT... but what exactly you are referring to i really dont know :D

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No, it's a  more tactile switch that has also a stronger spring than both blacks and browns. And is commonly available in European boards.

The custom one is the Ergo clear switch, made with the spring from brown/blue/red switches and the clear stem. IMO by far the best cherry swich available, incredibly good for typing and
while good for gaming.
mhhhh interesting... ill ask for samples :D
thx for the headsup!

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Nope, they're a legitimate Cherry part. You can see them in the switch wiki if you like. They are very tactile and with a high activation force, but no click. Only Deck and Cherry corp themselves offer products using them though, no one else seems to know about them.
mhhh thanks! :)

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So I'm about to receive my spawn.  I actually missed the fedex man by 10 minutes when I came home from playing hockey, got the fedex note.  I would love to get a trigger;  What's the eta on this board in the US?
still a few months away but in time for the xmas sales campaigns by etailers and retailers :D
we delayed it a bit to iron out some small things like balancing backlight, keycap coating, keyboard rubber coating..

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Looks like the ugly child of a g15 and a blackwidow :/

hahaha... i guess you could call it that, yeah... :D
like i said, i dont like the design too much either, and its not gonna with a fashion contest, but its a nice KB! :D
and hey, its our firstborn, give it some slack, cmon :D

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« Reply #80 on: Tue, 26 July 2011, 07:30:47 »
Finally i created an account. ;)
First i have to thank battlesheep (i remember a picture on facebook :P) to post here in this forum to give us informations about the Trigger. Its always nice to have the chance to talk to a man from the R&D to clear technical questions.
I reported about the Trigger in german forums and I got many questions about the different switch types, with which the Trigger will be offered.
Could you please tell me, that the Trigger will be offered with the 4 different switch types in germany too? or will there be only one switch type with german layout and the other switch types are just available with the US layout?
If there is only one switch type available with the german layout, please make the Trigger with redMX.
« Last Edit: Tue, 26 July 2011, 07:32:50 by JackA$$ »

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« Reply #81 on: Tue, 26 July 2011, 11:06:22 »
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... and we are the FIRST to use red LEDs in a cherry MX keyboard!
First, thanks for coming here and posting!
Sorry but Dech Legend Fire (which has been out for some time now) already has red backlit LEDs.

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i thought cherry clears are a customized brown switch with stronger spring? kinda like a brown switches with black springs...
havent tried them, find it hard to believe they are worth it to have yet another KB version...
Some people have described the Clears that way, but I think it is not completely accurate. Not only is the resistance higher, but the tactile bump is bigger also. The overall feel is more like a rubber dome (I'm probably getting spanked by the mech purists for saying that...), but still with mid-travel actuation. Once it has actuated it feels a bit like Cherry MX Black.
Because it has both the familiarity of the tactile bump and the linear feel, I think that it will be quite well received by gamers (and others) who are new to mechanical keyboards.
The drawback is that the large bump incurs more friction. I have not experienced it myself, but I have heard that older more worn keyboards with Clears could have a diminished tactile feel on the most-often used keys.

Some people like to mod the Clear to have a lighter coiled spring (called "Ergo Clear"), but I quite like it as it is. The tactile bump is not so much in the main spring. With the original main spring it cushions the stroke very nicely after actuation, and I find that a quite nice property when I type. The Clear switch has therefore become my favourite of all the Cherry MX switches.
« Last Edit: Tue, 26 July 2011, 11:09:08 by Findecanor »
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« Reply #82 on: Tue, 26 July 2011, 22:36:21 »
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(i remember a picture on facebook :P)
hehehe yeah that was me :D best google ad ever haha
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First i have to thank battlesheep to post here in this forum to give us informations about the Trigger. Its always nice to have the chance to talk to a man from the R&D to clear technical questions.
I reported about the Trigger in german forums and I got many questions about the different switch types, with which the Trigger will be offered.
thx, and your welcome :) you dont seem to deserve your nick at all ^^
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Could you please tell me, that the Trigger will be offered with the 4 different switch types in germany too? or will there be only one switch type with german layout and the other switch types are just available with the US layout?
If there is only one switch type available with the german layout, please make the Trigger with redMX.

I tried to convince the branches to carry all 4 switch versions, but the last i heard was that EU and US will carry a single version first, and maybe introduce more versions later if there is enough feedback asking for it.
Its not about what the branches think is right, it has a lot to do with inventory systems of our own warehouses and those of the shops we work with... having 4 versions creates a big overhead in inventory management and can cause confusion (customer ordered black but got blue...) In the end, unfortunately it boils down to shops in EU and the US (north and south) being SOOOO organized and worrying about warehouse efficiency SOOOOoOooOooOoO much, that they try to avoid carrying several versions of the same product, and some even REFUSE to carry more than one version... :/

I know that in at least some if not most other places in the world shops will carry 4 versions, or will offer to ORDER any version you want from us and then have it a few weeks later...
In the end im affraid theres nothing we can do about it, even the branch offices have their hands tied :/
It all boils down to most shops not WANTING different switch versions, and instead of diversifying their products, they actually prefer having 4 different brands of keyboards with the same switch... dont ask me why...
I recommend you to contact your favorite e-tailer or re-tailer and keep asking them, nicely, to carry keyboards with different cherry switches, or at least the one of your preference (red)

The good news is that since we work with amazon and other worldwide e-tailers, you guys might be able to order all 4 versions through one of them...
Im trying to get this worked out but like i said, we cant force them to do what we think is right... in the end they listen to YOU guys more than us...
so like i said, if you want something, keep telling them... just keep waving your hard earned cash in their face until they finally say "OOOKAAAYYY" and take it ^^

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First, thanks for coming here and posting!
Sorry but Dech Legend Fire (which has been out for some time now) already has red backlit LEDs.
oh wow, didnt know that! looks like a tank could roll over it :o kinda heavy tho...
Oh hey i wanted to ask you guys, about backlight... Trigger has close to no light between the keycaps... only the key icons themselves are illuminated.
Do you prefer this or having the space around the keycaps illuminated as well?
with only the keycaps lit up its easier to read them and more relaxing on the eyes... but you cant see the keycaps so you MIGHT not hit the keys that well?

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Some people have described the Clears that way, but I think it is not completely accurate. Not only is the resistance higher, but the tactile bump is bigger also. The overall feel is more like a rubber dome (I'm probably getting spanked by the mech purists for saying that...), but still with mid-travel actuation. Once it has actuated it feels a bit like Cherry MX Black.
Because it has both the familiarity of the tactile bump and the linear feel, I think that it will be quite well received by gamers (and others) who are new to mechanical keyboards.
The drawback is that the large bump incurs more friction. I have not experienced it myself, but I have heard that older more worn keyboards with Clears could have a diminished tactile feel on the most-often used keys.
mhhhh interesting... thx a lot for the info! :)
i actually like browns for the same reason... its kinda what your used to from older KBs, and it just feels better to have a bumpy tactile feedback...
though the latter is def personal preference... if id be playing SC or SC2 and hit insane APMs id probably prefer blues or reds since they feel softer and blues have a stronger actuation feedback
btw, funny about that isnt it? browns n blues are about the same resistance wise, BUT blues feel softer than browns...
i asked 2 dozens of people to try it, friends n coworkers, they all said blue feels slightly to notably softer than brown... but if you take two switches and push them against each other, they move in at about the same speed...

i played around with a sample of this hybrid switch from japan, which uses capacitive tech to detect when a switch is actuated, but uses rubber and spring as well...
whats it called again? let me check... oh yeah, REALFORCE...
i thought id love it since its supposed to have the pros of mech and rubber dome combined... but it felt terrible...
cant believe its 199$ :O
feels really sluggish and my hands feel tired after only a few keystrokes... the keys depress slow and... sluggishly... nobody here likes it, our sample is just lying in the corner =_='
so... yeah, im def interested in more tactile actuation feedback (without a click) so you guys got me interested in the clears and i already ordered samples :D

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Some people like to mod the Clear to have a lighter coiled spring (called "Ergo Clear"), but I quite like it as it is. The tactile bump is not so much in the main spring. With the original main spring it cushions the stroke very nicely after actuation, and I find that a quite nice property when I type. The Clear switch has therefore become my favourite of all the Cherry MX switches.
looking forward to test it... sounds like stronger brown switches to me and until i got a trigger (brown switches), i was using zowies celeritas with brown switches here at work and thought, if only the feedback was stronger and the keystroke termination wasnt that harsh and sudden... :D

thx for all the great info and suggestions guys!
« Last Edit: Tue, 26 July 2011, 23:12:06 by battlesheep »

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« Reply #83 on: Wed, 27 July 2011, 02:33:53 »
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i played around with a sample of this hybrid switch from japan, which uses capacitive tech to detect when a switch is actuated, but uses rubber and spring as well...
whats it called again? let me check... oh yeah, REALFORCE...
i thought id love it since its supposed to have the pros of mech and rubber dome combined... but it felt terrible...
cant believe its 199$ :O
feels really sluggish and my hands feel tired after only a few keystrokes... the keys depress slow and... sluggishly... nobody here likes it, our sample is just lying in the corner =
mind sending me that sample that your not using? Topre switches are the way to go for me!

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« Reply #84 on: Wed, 27 July 2011, 02:41:51 »
Or send it to me.  I've had many filcos and other mx switch based  keyboards.  In the end it's just a realforce and a hhkbp2 for me atm.  Topre feels better and has just as much tactile feedback for my fingers.  Plus oGsMC uses it, thus I must comply!

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« Reply #85 on: Wed, 27 July 2011, 02:46:08 »
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I've had many filcos and other mx switch based  keyboards.  In the end it's just a realforce and a hhkbp2 for me atm.  Topre feels better and has just as much tactile feedback for my fingers.
i cant agree more i currently have a HHKB Pro 2 and a SteelSeries 7G havent touched the 7G since i got the HHKB. i think eventually i may be in the market for a full sized realforce for gaming but it will have to have uniform switch weight.

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« Reply #86 on: Wed, 27 July 2011, 03:38:52 »
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I tried to convince the branches to carry all 4 switch versions, but the last i heard was that EU and US will carry a single version first, and maybe introduce more versions later if there is enough feedback asking for it.
Thanks for this information. But please make this single version of the Trigger with RedMX.
Some Reasons -> BlackMX are in the Mionix Zibal60, BlueMX in the Razer Black Widow and BrownMX in the Zowie Celeritas (but without Backlight). The only MX-Type which cannot be purchased in a "cheap" way is RedMX but this is the type which is the most wanted. BlackMX has a fantastic feeling but for many users (including me) the spring is too strong.
In my opinion the problem is that too many do not like the design of the Trigger. If they want BlackMX they will buy the Zibal60, for BlueMX the Black Widow, MK-80 or U9BL and so on. If the Trigger will be offered just with BlackMX e.g. no one will accept an ugly design if there is another keyboard, which looks great and has the same switch type.
« Last Edit: Wed, 27 July 2011, 08:23:38 by JackA$$ »

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« Reply #87 on: Wed, 27 July 2011, 06:17:40 »
Where did you buy it Kmart?:mod:

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« Reply #88 on: Wed, 27 July 2011, 11:36:46 »
I agree. A "mainstream" board with Red MX switches would probably destroy here in the states. It doesn't even have to be that cheap, but the fact that it offers Reds will create it's own marketing allure, due to the fact that Reds are in such high demand and scarce supply.
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« Reply #89 on: Wed, 27 July 2011, 11:42:55 »
Says the snobs on a keyboard forum. I don't know how much regular people would end up buying them. They definitely do so in general, because otherwise there wouldn't be any in stores.