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« Reply #3180 on: Sun, 29 January 2012, 07:18:43 »
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SP made clear to 7 bit that they are willing to only lower the price so much and would not go lower no matter how many more orders are made.
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« Reply #3181 on: Sun, 29 January 2012, 09:02:00 »
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SP made clear to 7 bit that they are willing to only lower the price so much and would not go lower no matter how many more orders are made.

Shame. But I agree with this somewhat.

Still, 7bit: a tip of my hat to you. (If I score a goal tonight in Ice Hockey, It'll be in your name).

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« Reply #3182 on: Sun, 29 January 2012, 13:18:21 »
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Shame. But I agree with this somewhat.

Still, 7bit: a tip of my hat to you. (If I score a goal tonight in Ice Hockey, It'll be in your name).


Thanks, but I hope you don't hate me the same you love me now, when you look into you inbox and realise the prices went up again!

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« Reply #3183 on: Sun, 29 January 2012, 13:49:06 »
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Is RETRO/MODSYM125 going to look similar to this or will the legends be filled in similar to the original wiki image?

After seeing the retro keys in the SP grab bags I want a set of the dark grey modifier keys with symbols, i.e. modifiers, shifts, control/caps lock, enter, tab and backspace. Is this possible or do I need to order a full TKL or STD set that includes these keys to get them?

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« Reply #3184 on: Sun, 29 January 2012, 13:53:10 »
The close date is wrong, feb doesn't have 31 days
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« Reply #3185 on: Sun, 29 January 2012, 13:57:35 »
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The close date is wrong, feb doesn't have 31 days

I think that was the point. Its a joke.
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« Reply #3186 on: Sun, 29 January 2012, 15:53:28 »
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The close date is wrong, feb doesn't have 31 days

I noticed that right off, and didn't say anything, waiting to see who would notice. I really like 7bit's sense of humour:
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« Reply #3187 on: Sun, 29 January 2012, 16:09:07 »
open up your eyes 7bit, i don't sell gamer kits. i would like to trade unused parts of gamerkits.... tztztz.
double wrong
now i know for shure there is something wrong with you.
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« Reply #3188 on: Sun, 29 January 2012, 16:11:22 »
open up your eyes 7bit, i don't sell gamer kits. i wuld like to trade unused parts of gamerkits.... tztztz.
double wrong :ohwell:
now i know for shure there is something wrong with you.

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« Reply #3189 on: Sun, 29 January 2012, 16:38:23 »
Sorry, but I'm not paying $90+ for some doubleshots. I will run my own group buy in a few weeks or so at the $65 for 25 sets or $47 for 50 sets if we get enough buyers. I'll leave my preorder in just in case you manage to bring the price back down, but I highly doubt that will happen nor do I expect that this will ever end. Anyone interested in paying reasonable prices I encourage to look for that.

Also, while I am certainly not interested in collecting the money for you, I do have something to say about it- You're going to need to offer some sort of shared profit if you expect someone to be willing to do it. Collecting the money is a significant portion of the work, and not everyone here can do it, so if you actually expect someone to just go and do it for free then this will truly never end.

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« Reply #3190 on: Sun, 29 January 2012, 16:48:21 »
that and you'll need more than one person.

the govt will start asking questions when 20-30k goes into your account out the blue.

also, i think im going to cut it down to one set. im almost at 300 for 2 sets and an RGB set.

way too much.
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« Reply #3191 on: Sun, 29 January 2012, 16:57:38 »
I'm going to have to back out of this. Spending the same price on caps as I did on the board doesn't sit well with me.

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« Reply #3192 on: Sun, 29 January 2012, 17:21:28 »
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open up your eyes 7bit, i don't sell gamer kits. i would like to trade unused parts of gamerkits.... tztztz.
double wrong
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now i know for shure there is something wrong with you.


Nothing wrong with me! These keys might be useful to some.

Sorry that trying to please everyone and low prices don't go well together.
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« Reply #3193 on: Sun, 29 January 2012, 19:01:56 »
Alright, sad to say but I am going to have to back out of this as well... Too many changes too many options that get dropped over and over, prices still going up. Sorry for wasting time of anybody that has helped with this. You should have only had a few options from the start not keep adding options that are not even going to be available to order. I won't pay $90 for a TKL double shot kit, $70 was already pushing it beyond my limits.

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« Reply #3194 on: Sun, 29 January 2012, 19:07:11 »
I'm hoping you realize by now that high prices don't please anyone.

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« Reply #3195 on: Sun, 29 January 2012, 19:50:06 »
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Sorry, but I'm not paying $90+ for some doubleshots. I will run my own group buy in a few weeks or so at the $65 for 25 sets or $47 for 50 sets if we get enough buyers. I'll leave my preorder in just in case you manage to bring the price back down, but I highly doubt that will happen nor do I expect that this will ever end. Anyone interested in paying reasonable prices I encourage to look for that.

Also, while I am certainly not interested in collecting the money for you, I do have something to say about it- You're going to need to offer some sort of shared profit if you expect someone to be willing to do it. Collecting the money is a significant portion of the work, and not everyone here can do it, so if you actually expect someone to just go and do it for free then this will truly never end.

Dave

Are you able to do a GB from SP and get caps at those prices?

What is the reason for the prices in this GB to keep going up. Doesn't SP quote a price at the beginning.
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« Reply #3196 on: Sun, 29 January 2012, 19:52:27 »
Yeah, 7Bit.

115 for the retro kit hurts too much. I'll stay in until money needs to be collected, but I'm probably gonna bail at some point.

Sorry
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« Reply #3197 on: Sun, 29 January 2012, 20:03:31 »
Yeah in sticking with a retro set till the end, then I'm going to decide if it's worth it or not.
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« Reply #3198 on: Sun, 29 January 2012, 20:07:35 »
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Yeah, 7Bit.

115 for the retro kit hurts too much. I'll stay in until money needs to be collected, but I'm probably gonna bail at some point.

Sorry
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« Reply #3199 on: Sun, 29 January 2012, 20:07:45 »
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Are you able to do a GB from SP and get caps at those prices?

What is the reason for the prices in this GB to keep going up. Doesn't SP quote a price at the beginning.

The prices keep going up because he doesn't have enough quantity to put in an order of any significant amount for any keyset. Because they are less than the minimum order size quoted, usually 25, the price per set keeps going up because it costs a lot more for a single or handful of sets than it does for 25- setup costs are huge when you're doing such low quantities of several different sets.

Yes I am able to do a group buy from SP for those prices. I had already been quoted that when I made my original interest check thread that is now on like the 2nd or 3rd page of the group buy section, see that thread for more info.

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« Reply #3200 on: Sun, 29 January 2012, 20:11:10 »
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Yes I am able to do a group buy from SP for those prices. I had already been quoted that when I made my original interest check thread that is now on like the 2nd or 3rd page of the group buy section, see that thread for more info.

This one?

http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?23966-IC-Doubleshot-87-Key-Red-on-Black-Keyset

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« Reply #3201 on: Sun, 29 January 2012, 20:11:30 »
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The prices keep going up because he doesn't have enough quantity to put in an order of any significant amount for any keyset. Because they are less than the minimum order size quoted, usually 25, the price per set keeps going up because it costs a lot more for a single or handful of sets than it does for 25- setup costs are huge when you're doing such low quantities of several different sets.

Yes I am able to do a group buy from SP for those prices. I had already been quoted that when I made my original interest check thread that is now on like the 2nd or 3rd page of the group buy section, see that thread for more info.

It's a landslide. Not enough orders -> Expensive -> more people drop out. I think the main problem was too much customization and styles.

If we go with lets say 104 ANSI layout for Retro and nothing else. Just that would be really cheap with the numbers we have.

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« Reply #3202 on: Sun, 29 January 2012, 20:51:03 »
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It's a landslide. Not enough orders -> Expensive -> more people drop out. I think the main problem was too much customization and styles.

If we go with lets say 104 ANSI layout for Retro and nothing else. Just that would be really cheap with the numbers we have.

I agree sounds like everyone wants retro. And lots are probably going to bail when they realize these prices. Maybe this thing should be trimmed down?
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« Reply #3203 on: Sun, 29 January 2012, 20:56:39 »
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I agree sounds like everyone wants retro. And lots are probably going to bail when they realize these prices. Maybe this thing should be trimmed down?

I do like the idea of R4 and what it provides. But at the moment I don't think it's working with everyone.

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« Reply #3204 on: Sun, 29 January 2012, 21:26:15 »
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Thanks, but I hope you don't hate me the same you love me now, when you look into you inbox and realise the prices went up again!

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ya those moogle kits pricing are quite scary.
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« Reply #3205 on: Sun, 29 January 2012, 23:28:07 »
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It's a landslide. Not enough orders -> Expensive -> more people drop out. I think the main problem was too much customization and styles.

If we go with lets say 104 ANSI layout for Retro and nothing else. Just that would be really cheap with the numbers we have.

I notice that "sure things" always attract wore interest. There wasn't much for the sphericals in R4 until someone pledged to buy up to the minimum quantity. Now it's one of the (if not the) most popular sets. A similar thing happened with the joker keycaps. Someone pledged to buy up to a certain price bracket, and there was a lot of interest, once again overtaking the initial pledge.

So, for example, if Ragnarock said he was going to buy 100 sets of 'blood', to guarantee a price, I'm sure lots of people would order. There'd likely be enough that his initial pledge wouldn't be necessary. The point is: it seems that lots of people are interested in low prices and sure things. We know that if there isn't interest, then the price will be high, and that stems our enthusiasm for purchasing. But I'll buy any doubleshot for $.71 that features green as one of the colours, even if there's no way I'd use it.
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« Reply #3206 on: Sun, 29 January 2012, 23:33:03 »
It was exactly why I offered to buy up the minimum to get spherical going.  Also made sure that I got one design that people could be in for via polls.  Not everyone is going to get what they want but at least we can get a good public opinion.

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« Reply #3207 on: Sun, 29 January 2012, 23:35:32 »
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I notice that "sure things" always attract wore interest. There wasn't much for the sphericals in R4 until someone pledged to buy up to the minimum quantity. Now it's one of the (if not the) most popular sets. A similar thing happened with the joker keycaps. Someone pledged to buy up to a certain price bracket, and there was a lot of interest, once again overtaking the initial pledge.

So, for example, if Ragnarock said he was going to buy 100 sets of 'blood', to guarantee a price, I'm sure lots of people would order. There'd likely be enough that his initial pledge wouldn't be necessary. The point is: it seems that lots of people are interested in low prices and sure things. We know that if there isn't interest, then the price will be high, and that stems our enthusiasm for purchasing. But I'll buy any doubleshot for $.71 that features green as one of the colours, even if there's no way I'd use it.

Yup, thus the existence of the much-maligned interest check.
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« Reply #3208 on: Sun, 29 January 2012, 23:45:28 »
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Yup, thus the existence of the much-maligned interest check.

Except then there's the situation when way more people say they want something than actually do.  Somebody brought this up recently to all the people talking about wanting aluminum Poker cases.  How many people want one and are actually going to pay the $140+shipping?

Interest Checks are great though.  Price guarantees are really great but unrealistic for big buys like this and honestly sort of a sad statement.
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« Reply #3209 on: Mon, 30 January 2012, 01:15:05 »
ROUND3/TKL price is still the same? Phew, hope it stays that way.
On the other hand the way this is going, there's probably no end to R4 group-buy :<