[Group Buy] Moogle Kit 2: FINAL ORDERS - LAST DAY 8/25

[cycloverid]

Hey everyone,

Melissa is asking how many posts are in the spacebar.  I'm hoping that this is very standardized.

I assume that pretty much every keyboard these days uses 3 posts on the space bar?


Sorry, the only mechanical keyboard I own is a Filco - and I am certainly no expert.

[Soarer]

The 'standard' bars from SP in round 3 had 4 stems, to suit both Filco and Cherry spacings (just picture the one ripster posted without the 2nd and 5th stems).

[cycloverid]

Thanks for the replies.

ripster: Melissa tells me they don't have the tooling for that.  So I guess we'll have to go with the 4 socketed spacebar.


It's a good thing I asked... I was looking through the wiki and saw a few 3-socket space keys and assumed that was the usual.

[RiGS]

They can make 3-socket space keys that fit the Leopold/Steelseries/Das as well. I wish you would include those as well.

[cycloverid]

RiGS: You're not even on the list!  But yeah, I guess this opens up a topic I hadn't considered.  

Maybe I can see if I can get both.  Who would need a 3 socket space?

[RiGS]

If you can do this, then you can count me in.

[BiNiaRiS]

RiGS: You're not even on the list!  But yeah, I guess this opens up a topic I hadn't considered.  

Maybe I can see if I can get both.  Who would need a 3 socket space?

I own a Leo so I'd love to have access to those spacebars. But I wouldn't want them replaced, I'd want them added. Since they are aren't doubleshots they couldn't be too expensive I'd presume. I would pay the difference to add 1 white and 1 black to my order.

On a side note, what is the height on these kits compared to real Cherry Corp keys. I assume these will be slightly higher than the Chery Corp keys?

[RiGS]

I own a Leo so I'd love to have access to those spacebars. But I wouldn't want them replaced, I'd want them added. Since they are aren't doubleshots they couldn't be too expensive I'd presume. I would pay the difference to add 1 white and 1 black to my order.

On a side note, what is the height on these kits compared to real Cherry Corp keys. I assume these will be slightly higher than the Chery Corp keys?

+1, I think they are close, though I prefer the key profile of the SP spacebar.

[N8N]

Thanks for the replies.

ripster: Melissa tells me they don't have the tooling for that.  So I guess we'll have to go with the 4 socketed spacebar.


It's a good thing I asked... I was looking through the wiki and saw a few 3-socket space keys and assumed that was the usual.

That is usual, but the switch itself is in a different position on a Cherry board than it is on a Filco/Das/WASD, and putting both posts for the switch don't cause any interference problems (I'm using a Cherry spacebar on my Filco right now with the center post for the Filco switch epoxied in and the original Cherry center post left in place with no problems.)  So for an aftermarket kit using four posts is definitely the way to go, unless you make them like the picture Ripster posted.

Maybe some pics will explain better - this thread (as well as being my keyboard) is exactly the reason these moogle kits were created, have a look at the space bar

http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?20990-My-own-anti-otaku-Filco-(w-modem-burning-pics)

in the one good pic of the space bar in that post, you see the original Cherry offset post in black, and the centered Filco one epoxied in in white.  On a Cherry board, the switch is offset to the right of the keyboard when you look down on it.

[rightbraingeek]

RiGS: You're not even on the list!  But yeah, I guess this opens up a topic I hadn't considered.  

Maybe I can see if I can get both.  Who would need a 3 socket space?

Include me.

[RiGS]

Adding a second spacebar shouldn't increase the price that much. Additionally you would make a lot of Leopold/Steelseries/Das/Zowie folks happy.
Could you ask a quote for that?

[Atenacius]

Whatever you guys decide to do, I'd like to opt-out of the additional spacebar for my order. Don't need it.

[RiGS]

If you can't justify adding $1,5 USD extra to help out some fellow geekhackers, then I will take your spacebar. The more is better, since ABS gets shiny quickly.

[Atenacius]

If you pay for it, go ahead and take it. When it comes to sorting them, though we just need to make sure you get it.

[MissileMike]

I would love, love, love Leo compatible space bars!  DO IT
(I will pay the difference, of course)

[cycloverid]

Here's the e-mail response from Melissa about the spacebars:


As we would have to pull the tooling to change the configuration on the spacebar, we need to charge for the unit price at the quantity you are looking to order:
10 space bars - $6.13 / each
20 space bars - $3.68 / each
 
Shipping costs will stay the same.




Obviously this would be an added expense for those who wanted them.  Seems kinda expensive?

[rightbraingeek]

Here's the e-mail response from Melissa about the spacebars:

As we would have to pull the tooling to change the configuration on the spacebar, we need to charge for the unit price at the quantity you are looking to order:
10 space bars - $6.13 / each
20 space bars - $3.68 / each
 
Shipping costs will stay the same.  Seems kinda expensive?

Kinda.  But since we only have two colors for this GB, one of each would do it.  I'm in for at least (1) black & (1) white as I have (2) Leos.

[litster]

I think the best bet is to create a new leo spacebar group buy.  It would probably be a fairly popular group buy as a lot of leo users want replacement spacebars.  But not all these leo owners are also getting a moogle kit here.  Most, if not all, of us have already paid for our moogle kit orders.  And if you have leo, chances are that it is a black version.  So the existing black leo spacebar that is already on your leo keyboard would work fine with your black Cherry double shots and the black moogle kit.

[cycloverid]

Good call litster - this saves me an extra bit of headache as well.  Now I can just focus on making sure everything else is awesome.  Sorry everyone.

TL:DR - the spacebar shipping with this kit will be the 4 socket one.

[soulfree914]

It seems like some people dropped off.  Are we good to go with the original price?
I can absorb some of the cancelled orders if you need me to. LMK cycloverid

[demik]

What was the key set that compliments the moogle kit?

[N8N]

Full size Cherry G80 or G81 with doubleshots.  The -1800 boards still don't have everything you need to put doubleshots on a standard 104 key MX board or even a standard tenkeyless (right shift is wrong, numpad is wrong, Del/End/PgDn are wrong profile)

[cycloverid]

Soulfree914:  We made out perfectly on the pricing (100 was the target, we got 99).  I ordered a few extras, but I'll deal with that after everything is sorted!


Only a few weeks left until the prototype key is in if all goes well.

[HoboBob]

I'll be looking forward to one of the extras. I can even pay a little bonus, because I missed the deadlines

[hashbaz]

Only a few weeks left until the prototype key is in if all goes well.

Hurray!  Freakin' excited here to see how the custom legends turn out.

[soulfree914]

Soulfree914:  We made out perfectly on the pricing (100 was the target, we got 99).  I ordered a few extras, but I'll deal with that after everything is sorted!


Only a few weeks left until the prototype key is in if all goes well.

Ok, just wanted to help out.

Just one small question. I have a cherry doubleshot set without the left shift, right shift and the bottom-most row..
but I see that this moggle kit does not include the left shift. Any way to get the left shift? Any leftovers you might have?
Also, what color code are you using for the light beige and dark beige?

[cycloverid]

GAW = Grey

WQ = Off-white


If you know of anything better let me know.

[litster]

Ok, just wanted to help out.

Just one small question. I have a cherry doubleshot set without the left shift, right shift and the bottom-most row..
but I see that this moggle kit does not include the left shift. Any way to get the left shift? Any leftovers you might have?
Also, what color code are you using for the light beige and dark beige?

99hk.biz was selling full sets of Cherry double shots and now selling ~ and backspace double shots here: http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?21950-Cherry-Double-Shot-Backspace-and
You might want to ping him to see if he has a left shift that he can sell to you.

[hashbaz]

I just saw reaper's post about receiving a genuine Cherry Corp red escape key, and had a thought.  If the custom Cherry font legends on our moogle kits turn out well, would people be interested in a red escape group buy with a similar Cherry lookalike custom legend?  Perhaps bundled with RGB versions of the ctrl, alt, and shift from this group buy?

[keyboardlover]

I don't believe SP can do the Cherry Corp font...

Also, the big deal with that key is its thickness and rarity, not the font...