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« Reply #360 on: Mon, 21 November 2011, 15:42:15 »
I would really like the switches to be part of some organized buy. Makes things much easier.
Putting them in separate buys is fine.

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« Reply #361 on: Mon, 21 November 2011, 20:47:16 »
I would rather have the PCB and Plates shipped together, considering how much international shipping goes for.

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« Reply #362 on: Mon, 21 November 2011, 20:49:02 »
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I would rather have the PCB and Plates shipped together, considering how much international shipping goes for.
I think that was the intent as those are the only really custom things.

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« Reply #363 on: Mon, 21 November 2011, 21:18:38 »
On the 7bit layout would it be possible to use all 1.25 width keys on the bottom row? I know that there might be a little extra space in between the 4th key from either side and the other keys. I this is possible could someone please so a layout mockup of this me me I would really appreciate it.

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« Reply #364 on: Mon, 21 November 2011, 21:22:36 »
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I would rather have the PCB and Plates shipped together, considering how much international shipping goes for.

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I think that was the intent as those are the only really custom things.

Yes, PCBs and plates will be shipped together.

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« Reply #365 on: Mon, 21 November 2011, 22:07:14 »
Something like this should work the Extra space between keys isnt ideal but it will allow me to get custom legends through WASD Keyboards.


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« Reply #366 on: Mon, 21 November 2011, 22:43:16 »
So I've finally gotten around to parsing through the OP and figuring out how all this works and what I need to buy.  Is there a plan for getting a case for the 7bit layout?
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« Reply #367 on: Mon, 21 November 2011, 22:53:56 »
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there is also online components.

Yeah, They even carry the awesome expensive one that steps for capslock, etc.

What I meant by "mouser/digikey" is that we can order from a normal parts dealer if need be (except for reds)
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« Reply #368 on: Mon, 21 November 2011, 23:15:35 »
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So I've finally gotten around to parsing through the OP and figuring out how all this works and what I need to buy.  Is there a plan for getting a case for the 7bit layout?

Take a Filco case and cut away the part for the extra righthanded keys.
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« Reply #369 on: Mon, 21 November 2011, 23:16:33 »
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So I've finally gotten around to parsing through the OP and figuring out how all this works and what I need to buy.  Is there a plan for getting a case for the 7bit layout?

Currently there is no case for any layout.  :(  The original idea from HaveANiceDay was to design a plate and a PCB that is programmable and you can use old Cherry double shot keycaps including those 1.5x Cherry double shot Alt and Ctrl keycaps.  You would reuse your switches, stabilizers, and case from your filco tenkeyless keyboard.  The project's scope has grown wider since then.  :)

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« Reply #370 on: Mon, 21 November 2011, 23:32:11 »
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Currently there is no case for any layout.  :(  The original idea from HaveANiceDay was to design a plate and a PCB that is programmable and you can use old Cherry double shot keycaps including those 1.5x Cherry double shot Alt and Ctrl keycaps.  You would reuse your switches, stabilizers, and case from your filco tenkeyless keyboard.  The project's scope has grown wider since then.  :)

The PCB is universal, but each layout combo (ISO/ANSI and 1.25x/1.5x mods) requires a different plate, right?
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« Reply #371 on: Mon, 21 November 2011, 23:32:58 »
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The PCB is universal, but each layout combo (ISO/ANSI and 1.25x/1.5x mods) requires a different plate, right?

That's correct.

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« Reply #372 on: Tue, 22 November 2011, 07:16:15 »
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Yeah, They even carry the awesome expensive one that steps for capslock, etc.

What I meant by "mouser/digikey" is that we can order from a normal parts dealer if need be (except for reds)
Yea i plan to buy one to have a toggleable Fn layer.

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Take a Filco case and cut away the part for the extra righthanded keys.
and where are we supposed to get those for a reasonable price?

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That's correct.
There could just be one case that just goes around the perimeter then, should work with every layout.

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« Reply #373 on: Tue, 22 November 2011, 07:58:11 »
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and where are we supposed to get those for a reasonable price?
Building custom keyboards is anything but reasonable =)
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« Reply #374 on: Tue, 22 November 2011, 08:07:55 »
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Building custom keyboards is anything but reasonable =)
No reason to buy a $150 keyboard just for the case though. Especially when we can easily get a custom case one for that price.

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« Reply #375 on: Tue, 22 November 2011, 08:24:44 »
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No reason to buy a $150 keyboard just for the case though. Especially when we can easily get a custom case one for that price.


A new keyboard could also be the source of switches.  And you could use a Leopold case, right?  So that's $130 after taxes and shipping (for me in CA at least).

Or, there is a case listed in the OP for $60... is that going to pan out?
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« Reply #376 on: Tue, 22 November 2011, 08:31:24 »
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A new keyboard could also be the source of switches.  And you could use a Leopold case, right?  So that's $130 after taxes and shipping (for me in CA at least).

Or, there is a case listed in the OP for $60... is that going to pan out?

No.

The best thing we can have is a backplate and some screws to put the whole thing together.
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« Reply #377 on: Tue, 22 November 2011, 08:33:11 »
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No.

The best thing we can have is a backplate and some scrwes to put the whole thing together.

No to just the case in the OP, right?  A modded Leopold case should work for the 7bit layout?
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« Reply #378 on: Tue, 22 November 2011, 08:51:13 »
Leopold case is different enough from the Filco case that it should not work if it hasn't been planned for.  I don't recall anyone doing internal measurements on the Leopold for this build.
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« Reply #379 on: Tue, 22 November 2011, 08:51:30 »
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No to just the case in the OP, right?  A modded Leopold case should work for the 7bit layout?
I believe its made to fit a Filco, my guess is that the holes in the PCB are not the same.

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« Reply #380 on: Tue, 22 November 2011, 09:07:33 »
We were talking about some different cases in the DOX discussion thread starting here http://tinyurl.com/cgfzb4k I think the acrylic ones should be rather easy to do.

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« Reply #381 on: Tue, 22 November 2011, 09:10:55 »
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Especially when we can easily get a custom case one for that price.

Please show us how easy it is to get a custom case for any price.  We can really use one here.

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Leopold case is different enough from the Filco case that it should not work if it hasn't been planned for.  I don't recall anyone doing internal measurements on the Leopold for this build.

Correct.  The Phantom  PCB and plate design is the same setup as Filco, not Leopold.

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« Reply #382 on: Tue, 22 November 2011, 09:22:47 »
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We were talking about some different cases in the DOX discussion thread starting here http://tinyurl.com/cgfzb4k I think the acrylic ones should be rather easy to do.
Heres the links to the cases we were taking about. http://tinyurl.com/cbnqxqu http://tinyurl.com/d3fpllu We came to the conclusion that it looks like a couple layers of CNC cut acrylic.

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« Reply #383 on: Tue, 22 November 2011, 09:48:15 »
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Heres the links to the cases we were taking about. http://tinyurl.com/cbnqxqu http://tinyurl.com/d3fpllu We came to the conclusion that it looks like a couple layers of CNC cut acrylic.

Cool, design one that works for Filco tenkeyless's innards, send us the drawings in dxf format, and we can investigate how much it could cost to make.

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« Reply #384 on: Tue, 22 November 2011, 09:53:28 »
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Cool, design one that works for Filco tenkeyless's innards, send us the drawings in dxf format, and we can investigate how much it could cost to make.
Sadly I dont have the skills for that nor a Filco TKL to get measurements from. Im sure someone on GeekHack has skills in AutoCAD and is capable of doing so though. Its just a matter of finding them and having them hopefully agree to help.

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« Reply #385 on: Tue, 22 November 2011, 09:57:58 »
Same for me.  I don't know AutoCAD.  It is not so easy after all.

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« Reply #386 on: Tue, 22 November 2011, 10:09:17 »
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Same for me.  I don't know AutoCAD.  It is not so easy after all.
Well I started up a thread http://tinyurl.com/d85nm9g lets see what happens.

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« Reply #387 on: Tue, 22 November 2011, 10:21:11 »
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Well I started up a thread http://tinyurl.com/d85nm9g lets see what happens.
Some interest has been shown but measurements of a Filco are needed. If you can help please head over to the thread, thanks.

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« Reply #388 on: Tue, 22 November 2011, 11:58:15 »
7bit told me that we got quotes back on switches.  Looks like it is a go with switches.  Brown, Clear, and Red are a go.  We are at less than 200 switches for Blue and less than 400 for Black, so we may axe them if we don't get close to 1000 blue switches, the minimum order quote.


In case you missed it, it is OK if you just want to order switches through the Phantom group buy.
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« Reply #389 on: Tue, 22 November 2011, 12:16:31 »
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7bit told me that we got quotes back on switches.  Looks like it is a go with switches.  Brown, Clear, and Red are a go.  We are at less than 200 switches for Blue and less than 400 for Black, so we may axe them if we don't get close to 1000 blue switches, the minimum order quote.


In case you missed it, it is OK if you just want to order switches through the Phantom group buy.


Nothing gets axed until we will order (which will be shortly before the PCBs and plates are ready). So if anybody wants blues and blacks, just order them through this group buy!!!

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