Author Topic: Interest Check: Dolch key caps group buy (Read 17230 times)

hashbaz · « **Reply #300 on:** Tue, 28 February 2012, 22:30:36 »

Quote from: lightsout714;530219

What happened to this buy. The pics in the OP look great!

Legend fees are a killer. That and three more or less concurrent full set group buys.

lightsout714 · « **Reply #301 on:** Tue, 28 February 2012, 22:40:06 »

Do these require new legends? The font doesn't look that special.

hashbaz · « **Reply #302 on:** Tue, 28 February 2012, 22:43:37 »

Dolch font == Cherry font

mkawa · « **Reply #303 on:** Tue, 28 February 2012, 22:54:48 »

if you want to get this done you're going to need to get the mold specs from melissa, have your own set of molds milled at a very good machine shop with a very experienced operator, then send them to SP. unless someone who wants this done is actually that operator, this is going to be prohibitively expensive

HOWEVER! i would be in for a set that used dolch colors and the standard SP legends (maybe a couple of custom legends for modifiers or something) but didn't have all the kerning and centering weirdness of gb3

eta: actually it occurs to me that there may be CNC laser cutters that could make the molds.

litster · « **Reply #304 on:** Tue, 28 February 2012, 22:58:03 »

I would be surprised if SP would use molds of unknown origin in their machines, no matter what you tell them.

mkawa · « **Reply #305 on:** Tue, 28 February 2012, 22:58:50 »

ok then i don't think this is possible

hashbaz · « **Reply #306 on:** Wed, 29 February 2012, 01:39:50 »

New molds, are you nuts? New legends is expensive enough.

mkawa · « **Reply #307 on:** Wed, 29 February 2012, 01:42:01 »

oh, yes, that's confusing. what i means was new legends molds. from the SP marketing documents it sounds like they make a brass mold for each legend that's like a simple 8x8 square with some holes in it or something. that's the one that sounds like it could be produced by someone other than SP without SP's weird requirements.

hashbaz · « **Reply #308 on:** Wed, 29 February 2012, 02:28:29 »

Ah ok. I'm not really sure about the terminology and what it all means. I thought you meant duplicating the Cherry profile, which is hundreds of dollars per key type I believe.

IvanIvanovich · « **Reply #309 on:** Wed, 29 February 2012, 02:39:19 »

I think we have a better chance of building a time machine and going back in time to Cherry corp and killing all the people that decided to discontinue doubleshots production.

gimpster · « **Reply #310 on:** Thu, 01 March 2012, 09:22:59 »

Quote from: lysol;530567

I think we have a better chance of building a time machine and going back in time to Cherry corp and killing all the people that decided to discontinue doubleshots production.

I've watched all of the Doctor Who episodes, it doesn't look that hard to make a TARDIS work...let's do it!

JesuswasaZombie · « **Reply #311 on:** Thu, 01 March 2012, 23:33:05 »

I personally would rather do a thick PBT set of Dolch colors gray/dark gray with the sneaky HHKB-esque dye sub legends. New school Dolch steez!

SPs keycaps just don't seem to have the level of quality we need to justify the cost...

gimpster · « **Reply #312 on:** Fri, 02 March 2012, 01:56:54 »

Quote from: ripster;531986

That's like saying I've watched all the Dr. Who episodes so I should be able to go to bed with Amy Pond.
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I fail to see the flaw in that logic.

gimpster · « **Reply #313 on:** Fri, 02 March 2012, 01:59:34 »

Quote from: JesuswasaZombie;532841

I personally would rather do a thick PBT set of Dolch colors gray/dark gray with the sneaky HHKB-esque dye sub legends. New school Dolch steez!

SPs keycaps just don't seem to have the level of quality we need to justify the cost...

I'd be down for something like that, too. I prefer the feel of PBT to ABS. That said, you complain about the quality control of SP (and I'm certainly not defending them) but who do you think we would get to do them if not SP? Also, technically a dye-sub Dolch set would not look the same at all since you can only dye-sub to darker colors, which means it would need black text instead of white. It could still be a nice color combo, but it wouldn't really look very Dolch-ish.

Nighted · « **Reply #314 on:** Fri, 02 March 2012, 07:48:02 »

I like the colour scheme. Not too picky about the fonts. Just make this happen!

lightsout714 · « **Reply #315 on:** Fri, 02 March 2012, 08:48:50 »

Quote from: Nighted;533032

I like the colour scheme. Not too picky about the fonts. Just make this happen!

For real just pick a similar font and be done with it! I'd be in for one.

JesuswasaZombie · « **Reply #316 on:** Fri, 02 March 2012, 17:00:02 »

Quote from: gimpster;532938

I'd be down for something like that, too. I prefer the feel of PBT to ABS. That said, you complain about the quality control of SP (and I'm certainly not defending them) but who do you think we would get to do them if not SP? Also, technically a dye-sub Dolch set would not look the same at all since you can only dye-sub to darker colors, which means it would need black text instead of white. It could still be a nice color combo, but it wouldn't really look very Dolch-ish.

Yeah, Dark dye-sublimated legends like the HHKB.

The problem with double shots from Signature Plastics (and its not so much QC) is that SP have thin keycaps AND expensive legend setup costs. At the old prices I would do it. But no way at the new prices plus lame thin caps.

As for PBT I believe that would have to come through someone like Imsto or maybe through Devlin...

As for just doing it with the regular SP legends. No thanks. Look at R3 sets.

lightsout714 · « **Reply #317 on:** Fri, 02 March 2012, 17:37:25 »

Quote from: JesuswasaZombie;533414

Yeah, Dark dye-sublimated legends like the HHKB.

The problem with double shots from Signature Plastics (and its not so much QC) is that SP have thin keycaps AND expensive legend setup costs. At the old prices I would do it. But no way at the new prices plus lame thin caps.

As for PBT I believe that would have to come through someone like Imsto or maybe through Devlin...

As for just doing it with the regular SP legends. No thanks. Look at R3 sets.

Well you could get something better then R3. I'm not a fan of the big centered letters.

wongster · « **Reply #318 on:** Fri, 02 March 2012, 18:02:21 »

Interested!

I like the Dolch colors and definitely like PBT over ABS. I'd prefer white legends, but whatever works for everyone. Make it happen please!

gridlock · « **Reply #319 on:** Sat, 03 March 2012, 16:46:07 »

What exactly is stopping us from making the dark HHKB style caps for cherry boards? If you don't mind me asking.

mkawa · « **Reply #320 on:** Sat, 03 March 2012, 17:09:38 »

i don't really see what's wrong with the SP molds (ie, thin caps). plus using their molds give us compatibility with all the DS gb sets we have going right now

and imsto's thick caps aren't really any cheaper than going with SP.

hashbaz · « **Reply #321 on:** Sat, 03 March 2012, 17:23:38 »

Quote from: gridlock;534179

What exactly is stopping us from making the dark HHKB style caps for cherry boards? If you don't mind me asking.

Nothing, except it has nothing to do with Dolch keycaps which are two-toned white on grey with the Cherry font.

JesuswasaZombie · « **Reply #322 on:** Sat, 03 March 2012, 20:22:24 »

Massive legend costz

VladeK · « **Reply #323 on:** Mon, 05 March 2012, 07:23:28 »

I want one set.

JSchool · « **Reply #324 on:** Tue, 06 March 2012, 05:25:17 »

Is this going to actually happen? If so I'll have second thoughts about my Round 3 order in the R4 group buy. Not that R4 is ever going to happen.

lightsout714 · « **Reply #325 on:** Tue, 06 March 2012, 08:42:05 »

Quote from: JSchool;536742

Is this going to actually happen? If so I'll have second thoughts about my Round 3 order in the R4 group buy. Not that R4 is ever going to happen.

It seems like no because of legend fees.

hashbaz · « **Reply #326 on:** Tue, 06 March 2012, 11:24:04 »

There does seems to be some interest in a Dolch-colored set with standard SP legends. We could make that happen easily enough, but we would want to coordinate with tsangan and lysol.

hazeluff · « **Reply #327 on:** Tue, 06 March 2012, 11:27:22 »

Quote from: hashbaz;536900

There does seems to be some interest in a Dolch-colored set with standard SP legends. We could make that happen easily enough, but we would want to coordinate with tsangan and lysol.

At the moment it's very overloaded with GBs...

Also a Dolch-colored set with SP legends would probably just kill this one outright...

lightsout714 · « **Reply #328 on:** Tue, 06 March 2012, 12:04:17 »

Quote from: hashbaz;536900

There does seems to be some interest in a Dolch-colored set with standard SP legends. We could make that happen easily enough, but we would want to coordinate with tsangan and lysol.

I'd be down for that. Probably. Red alert is at the top of my list. Hopefully it happens sooner then later.

mkawa · « **Reply #329 on:** Tue, 06 March 2012, 12:14:58 »

there's a huge backlog of GBs right now. cream cheese is coming up next, and then at least one of the round 4 GBs will need to run its course, etc... it's probably best to put this one the backburner.

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Author Topic: Interest Check: Dolch key caps group buy (Read 17230 times)