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Offline Input Nirvana

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« Reply #30 on: Tue, 13 December 2011, 01:23:05 »
I noticed the "shifting over" in using the clusters, or re-train the brain to use the ring finger as the up/down finger...dunno, but it could work. "Deeper than wider"?

I assume the f-row is of no touch type value? But the CAP/NUM and maybe the Fn might be touch type-able?

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« Reply #31 on: Tue, 13 December 2011, 09:02:11 »
No manual.  I've sent a message to TE asking about a few things including that, will pass on any answers I get.

By "deeper rather than wider" I just mean taking the keys normally off to the right even on a typical tenkeyless and moving them above/below the central clusters.

The F-row is not really suitable for touch-type, but I think the Esc, Del, Super, and PrtScn could be used as they are easily locatable.
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« Reply #32 on: Tue, 13 December 2011, 11:14:28 »
wow.  Didn't catch this thread yesterday.  TE actually delivered!  (just not to me yet)

Sounds like the fit and finish is pretty decent.  With all the delays, I would certainly hope so.

Definitely post up a review once you log some time on it.
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« Reply #33 on: Tue, 13 December 2011, 11:16:02 »
Curious as to what method they used to deliver and if you got any advance notification of it or not ... getting anxious to get mine in my hands :)
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« Reply #34 on: Tue, 13 December 2011, 11:49:17 »
Quote from: Gerk;469701
Curious as to what method they used to deliver and if you got any advance notification of it or not ... getting anxious to get mine in my hands :)

Mine came FedEx, no advance notice.
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« Reply #35 on: Tue, 13 December 2011, 11:54:22 »
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wow.  Didn't catch this thread yesterday.  TE actually delivered!  (just not to me yet)
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At this long-delayed point, I bet it seems like you're getting a freebie!
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« Reply #36 on: Tue, 13 December 2011, 11:59:11 »
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Mine came FedEx, no advance notice.

What was the shipping method (2-day, ground, etc)? Also what state/province are you in? Not sure if you're in Canada or the US.
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« Reply #37 on: Tue, 13 December 2011, 14:05:47 »
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What was the shipping method (2-day, ground, etc)? Also what state/province are you in? Not sure if you're in Canada or the US.

Admit it, you just want my address so you can come and steal the keyboard.      2-day shipping, in Saskatoon, SK.
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« Reply #38 on: Tue, 13 December 2011, 14:35:20 »
So you're in Canada, makes sense. Gerk, I guess that means you should be getting yours before the USA folks.
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« Reply #39 on: Tue, 13 December 2011, 14:51:37 »
I'm hoping yes. Will report in if/when it arrives.
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« Reply #40 on: Tue, 13 December 2011, 19:16:29 »
How much did it cost? I couldn't find the price on the website.
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« Reply #41 on: Tue, 13 December 2011, 19:28:47 »
How heavy does it feel on the desk?

Out of curiosity, is it easy to find out what scancode it sends when you dipswitch one of the spacebars to "alternate"?
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« Reply #42 on: Tue, 13 December 2011, 20:18:37 »
Quote from: input nirvana;469748
At this long-delayed point, I bet it seems like you're getting a freebie!
Maybe I'll throw it under the tree when it arrives.  ;)

Actually, we don't do Christmas presents at my house.  I've always felt it was a bit inappropriate and primarily fueled by the retail industry.  I go all out on birthday presents though.
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« Reply #43 on: Tue, 13 December 2011, 21:14:21 »
Wait, this thread is about a keyboard??  I was hoping to find tips on low-impact unboxing techniques!
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« Reply #44 on: Wed, 14 December 2011, 00:12:18 »
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Wait, this thread is about a keyboard??  I was hoping to find tips on low-impact unboxing techniques!

many items such as TV's have instructions such as "Open here" or "This side up" this will save you a bad back and a broken tv screen in the future.
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Offline Mackansson

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« Reply #45 on: Wed, 14 December 2011, 00:44:23 »
Weee, I (probably) get a keyboard for Christmas!

http://www.fedex.com/Tracking?ascend_header=1&clienttype=dotcom&mi=n&cntry_code=us&language=english&tracknumbers=485400893114

(got the tracking number by emailing them and asking for an estimated delivery date)
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« Reply #46 on: Wed, 14 December 2011, 01:14:11 »
Quote from: hashbaz;470176
Wait, this thread is about a keyboard??  I was hoping to find tips on low-impact unboxing techniques!

Dude...shut UP! lol
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« Reply #47 on: Wed, 14 December 2011, 12:20:00 »
I got tracking info from them today too. Should get mine by Friday if all goes well, maybe sooner.
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« Reply #48 on: Wed, 14 December 2011, 13:30:24 »
Quote from: hemflit;470111
How heavy does it feel on the desk?

Out of curiosity, is it easy to find out what scancode it sends when you dipswitch one of the spacebars to "alternate"?


Not really sure how to answer that.  It feels solidly build, doesn't move around.  When the dipswitch is set, the left spacebar sends decimal 103, the right decimal 65.
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« Reply #49 on: Wed, 14 December 2011, 14:34:09 »
I'm looking forwards to the reviews of this keyboard.
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« Reply #50 on: Wed, 14 December 2011, 15:08:51 »
Emailed them and got tracking info as well.  Due to be delivered on Monday (19 Dec 2011).
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« Reply #51 on: Wed, 14 December 2011, 15:31:56 »
What model and switches did everyone get?  I've got a 109 with reds on the way.
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« Reply #52 on: Wed, 14 December 2011, 18:53:28 »
Long time lurker here. It's been nearly ten months since my preorder, but I just received my TE keyboard today! I am liking the feel so far. The non-alphanumeric key arrangement is going to take some getting used to, particularly backspace and enter, and shift. Like the OP, I think I will be swapping ctrl and shift. Muscle memory is strong.

Edit: To answer Gerk, I got a 104 with blues.

For shipping speed comparison, I am near Portland, Oregon.
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« Reply #53 on: Wed, 14 December 2011, 22:50:57 »
Pics please
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« Reply #54 on: Thu, 15 December 2011, 14:08:48 »
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Pics please


I am at work with only my crappy phone camera, so here's one picture for now:

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« Reply #55 on: Thu, 15 December 2011, 14:17:09 »
Hehe, nice. I wonder if the middle column keycaps could be replaced by the closest rectangular keycap size (ie Left Shift, Backspace, CapsLock, Tab keycaps of a normal keyboard). Rectangular keycaps would be able to be flipped to choose if you want an angle for thumb use or index finger use.
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« Reply #56 on: Thu, 15 December 2011, 15:04:15 »
That's a good idea. I have spare keycaps of various sizes so I'll give that a try once I have mine and see how it works out.
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« Reply #57 on: Thu, 15 December 2011, 15:40:40 »
Got mine - two blank 109 keyboards. Totally worth the wait. What a kick! I'm coming from two Kinesis so I'm having to adjust to the new keyboard.

So far my response it positive, its a very solid and substantial keyboard. Wonderful size, I really appreciate the keyboard cover. I'll see how it is when I get adjusted but I'm thinking this may be my ideal keyboard.
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« Reply #58 on: Thu, 15 December 2011, 15:44:11 »
Hey, long time no see! You know what would be really great, is if you could somehow take a picture that shows the hands over the keyboard in normal typing position (elbows at 90° angle) because some folks (myself included) think the separation and/or angle of the 2 keyboard sections is not generous enough.
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« Reply #59 on: Thu, 15 December 2011, 16:05:29 »
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Hey, long time no see! You know what would be really great, is if you could somehow take a picture that shows the hands over the keyboard in normal typing position (elbows at 90° angle) because some folks (myself included) think the separation and/or angle of the 2 keyboard sections is not generous enough.

I'll try to do that. I'm over six feet tall (long arms and lean) and the separation is just fine. My arms are presently comfortably typing with the arms almost at a 90 degree angle, probably an 80 degree angle. Its funny, I thought about the same thing, but the actual keyboard with your hands has the hands comfortably sitting at a greater angle then seems like would be the case by the visual pictures.

The trouble adjusting so far is the placement of the shift versus command keys (for me), and the vertical placement of the keys, even though the Kinesis has vertical placement. As I'm speaking however I'm adjusting however. Pretty neat!

EDIT: by the way, I AM glad that I ordered two keyboards at the sale price of $100 each, and I stayed with them. I'm falling in love with these as I'm getting used to them.
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