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« Reply #150 on: Thu, 08 March 2012, 07:58:12 »
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Let me know when it's realistically possible for a government to have nothing to do with the economic practices in the state it governs bro

The point is the government should be an entity apart from business with control over it, not that it should "have nothing to do" with its economic practices.  Government should also in no way base its decision-making around the health of financial markets, because these abstractions do not represent the citizenry they have been elected to serve.  Did you mistake me for the lolbertarian who started this thread?

People have forgotten the notion of the public good in the US that services like USPS, roads, schools, and social welfare programs provide.  Now, all you hear is complaints over people getting nothing for their taxes, because Republicans and their backwards, self-fulfilling prophecy of "government is ineffective, therefore we should defund government to make it less effective, thus making us even more correct" have been inserted so deeply into the system.  Like all conservatives, they pit the working and what's left of the middle classes against themselves and one another with their constant *****ing about unions and religious issues, while crying that the wealthy "job-creators" (who are doing far better than anybody else, yet sitting on their fat wads and banging the drum of yet more outsourcing instead of hiring anybody American) pay too much in tax... despite the fact that the vast majority of millionaires class their income as capital gains and pay only 15% (didn't Romney's tax return list his occupation as "unemployed"?).

The major problem is that Obama is a center-right candidate, and all his opponents are farther right than Genghis Khan.  There is no legitimate workers' party in the US or UK, since the UK's Labour betrayed its principles to appeal to suburbanites, same as Clinton did.  And so working men and women have nobody to represent them in government, nor in the private sector as unions are increasingly defanged and have their bargaining power broken.

And so wages remain stagnant for working people while millionaires see their profits and their workers' productivity climb to astronomical levels.  And so our society continues to rebuild itself in the shape of an inverted pyramid - with a broad slab of wealth spread for miles across the top for people who slosh numbers around in a financial sea, and the tip of the spire balanced plunged into the chest of the people who actually produce and create.

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« Reply #151 on: Thu, 08 March 2012, 12:13:16 »
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The point is the government should be an entity apart from business with control over it, not that it should "have nothing to do" with its economic practices.  Government should also in no way base its decision-making around the health of financial markets, because these abstractions do not represent the citizenry they have been elected to serve.  Did you mistake me for the lolbertarian who started this thread?

People have forgotten the notion of the public good in the US that services like USPS, roads, schools, and social welfare programs provide.  Now, all you hear is complaints over people getting nothing for their taxes, because Republicans and their backwards, self-fulfilling prophecy of "government is ineffective, therefore we should defund government to make it less effective, thus making us even more correct" have been inserted so deeply into the system.  Like all conservatives, they pit the working and what's left of the middle classes against themselves and one another with their constant *****ing about unions and religious issues, while crying that the wealthy "job-creators" (who are doing far better than anybody else, yet sitting on their fat wads and banging the drum of yet more outsourcing instead of hiring anybody American) pay too much in tax... despite the fact that the vast majority of millionaires class their income as capital gains and pay only 15% (didn't Romney's tax return list his occupation as "unemployed"?).

The major problem is that Obama is a center-right candidate, and all his opponents are farther right than Genghis Khan.  There is no legitimate workers' party in the US or UK, since the UK's Labour betrayed its principles to appeal to suburbanites, same as Clinton did.  And so working men and women have nobody to represent them in government, nor in the private sector as unions are increasingly defanged and have their bargaining power broken.

And so wages remain stagnant for working people while millionaires see their profits and their workers' productivity climb to astronomical levels.  And so our society continues to rebuild itself in the shape of an inverted pyramid - with a broad slab of wealth spread for miles across the top for people who slosh numbers around in a financial sea, and the tip of the spire balanced plunged into the chest of the people who actually produce and create.


All right cool, looks like we're pretty much on the same page.

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« Reply #152 on: Fri, 09 March 2012, 15:49:42 »
Now that the Fifth Amendment is a dead letter and Obama can kill anybody he wants without due process, the next step is usually the disappearance of political enemies and mass graves.
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« Reply #153 on: Fri, 09 March 2012, 15:54:05 »
Not like anyone would care.
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« Reply #154 on: Fri, 09 March 2012, 15:57:03 »
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We only kill bad guys.
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« Reply #155 on: Fri, 09 March 2012, 17:15:37 »
Disgusting.

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« Reply #156 on: Fri, 09 March 2012, 23:01:57 »
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Who wants to see dead Osama Bin Laden pics?


Check Deskthority.net. I think webwit has them.

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« Reply #158 on: Wed, 14 March 2012, 14:44:39 »
Poor old Ron.

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« Reply #159 on: Wed, 14 March 2012, 17:09:13 »
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And how come KL always posts right after I do some lame comment?

This, for those who don't know, is known as "troll baiting".

Love ya riphead!

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« Reply #160 on: Wed, 14 March 2012, 18:32:38 »
Hey kids it's time for another round of Media vs. Reality!

Media:
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Reality:

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« Reply #161 on: Wed, 14 March 2012, 19:03:00 »
Those stats are lookin' a little stale rippy my boy ;)

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« Reply #162 on: Wed, 14 March 2012, 19:07:34 »
I am on topic.

American is ****ed without valuable stats that the people can learn from.

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« Reply #163 on: Wed, 14 March 2012, 19:30:09 »
Whenever I'm Hungary I just go make a sandwich.

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« Reply #164 on: Thu, 15 March 2012, 06:57:14 »

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« Reply #165 on: Thu, 15 March 2012, 10:07:56 »
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Fixed it for ya.



Meanwhile in Hungary
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« Reply #166 on: Thu, 15 March 2012, 14:06:09 »
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Hey kids it's time for another round of Media vs. Reality!

Media:


Reality:
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Ron Paul:

[video=youtube;uSjWlnAVT6Y]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=uSjWlnAVT6Y[/video]





Gingrich:



Romney



Santorum:

http://api.ning.com/files/uVMglZQNzc74FYXAxcOvuT2RexWVaZcJ0kqCG6setqIJ-kDmrnsPDCJFX*4G9mQByKXHbezGQLXkNC1FZmCB*HxxU1-uBUb-/RickSantorumEvent034.JPG?width=737&height=489


Conclusion: It's kinda suspicious. Huh, electronic voting?

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« Reply #167 on: Thu, 15 March 2012, 20:45:46 »
Don't forget this one...Columbia, Missouri today.


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« Reply #168 on: Thu, 15 March 2012, 20:51:01 »
Go Obama and we can have moar WAR and moar SPENDING!!!

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« Reply #169 on: Thu, 15 March 2012, 20:56:02 »
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Go Obama and we can have moar WAR and moar SPENDING!!!

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Whatever.  As long as he wins.

Ron Paul is a loser.

Lol! You sound EXACTLY like the media!!

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« Reply #170 on: Thu, 15 March 2012, 21:06:53 »
Since you're my new buddy I'd CONSIDER making you my running mate.

But only if you're the kind that sits back and lets me do all the important stuff.


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« Reply #171 on: Thu, 15 March 2012, 21:08:30 »
[video=youtube;G106jlvZYmQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G106jlvZYmQ&feature=youtu.be[/video]

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« Reply #172 on: Thu, 15 March 2012, 21:20:10 »
Obama is just like Gustavo Fring. A wolf in sheep's clothing.

And a truly evil man at that.







They kinda look alike too!

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« Reply #173 on: Fri, 16 March 2012, 18:37:38 »
Since you're my new friend I find the humor in your above post amusing.

Sarcasm...bazinga!


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« Reply #174 on: Fri, 16 March 2012, 18:48:26 »

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« Reply #175 on: Fri, 16 March 2012, 19:04:43 »
The possibility of Obama winning again???



Bazinga!

Except...it's NOT a bazinga. It's true!
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« Reply #176 on: Fri, 16 March 2012, 20:40:48 »
**** Occupy Wall Street! Smelly hippies!


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« Reply #177 on: Sat, 17 March 2012, 00:04:23 »
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« Reply #178 on: Sat, 17 March 2012, 11:00:01 »
We're all screwed (and America is da-best at it). The Stellar Wind project has to be stopped. And all governments are the same.
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« Reply #179 on: Sat, 17 March 2012, 13:17:47 »
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The Stellar Wind project has to be stopped. And all governments are the same.
I disagree.

The government whose troops visited your country in 1968 is vastly different from that of the United States, or the government of your own country. Democratic governments work for their people, on behalf of them, under their control.

Still, while I think the complex in Bluffdale is merely a routine response to increasing security needs in the post-9/11 world, I was surprised to read

"According to another top official also involved with the program, the NSA made an enormous breakthrough several years ago in its ability to cryptanalyze, or break, unfathomably complex encryption systems employed by not only governments around the world but also many average computer users in the US."

in the article.

I wouldn't have thought that such a breakthrough was possible... in respect of normal secret-key encryption. But I would not think it impossible that they could have finally found the "magic screw" that vitiates public-key encryption; despite three major forms of it, RSA, discrete logarithms, and elliptic curves, their mathematical bases are closely related.