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Offline Soulpyre

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« Reply #30 on: Sat, 18 February 2012, 11:03:34 »
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« Reply #31 on: Sat, 18 February 2012, 11:09:31 »
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And they are ugly. Look more like bloody semen than anything.


You should have that checked out.

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« Reply #32 on: Sat, 18 February 2012, 11:21:43 »
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« Reply #33 on: Sat, 18 February 2012, 11:23:00 »
Keep it exactly as pictured with stock modifiers. If people want something else do extra keys.

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« Reply #34 on: Sat, 18 February 2012, 11:42:13 »
Damn shawn o, we should send package together to save on shipping. =P

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« Reply #35 on: Sat, 18 February 2012, 11:49:01 »
I'd prefer anything other than the Windows logo. Super/Meta, diamonds, blank, etc.

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« Reply #36 on: Sat, 18 February 2012, 11:52:19 »
Ragnarok
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Phantom
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Empty wallet logo on the modifiers.

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« Reply #37 on: Sat, 18 February 2012, 13:20:41 »
Quote from: RColinTaylor;517649
You are making sure to include the Filco+Leopold combination spacebar, correct?


Of course!

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Just so I'm clear, if there are 45-49 orders for the base set you're going to buy the extra sets necessary to reach the 50 sets price point but everyone would still pay the 25 sets price?

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Simply put, yes. However it isn't the up to 50 I am concerned about, I have wanted to do more than 50 orders from the start and I will be pretty disappointed if it doesn't. Since the discount for 75 puts us well below what everyone is expecting to pay anyways, I was thinking more about that. I already have 25 PMs in my inbox btw, and we have like 2 weeks till orders close hitting 75 shouldn't even be a problem. What I would really like to see is people hitting the 25 discount for the add on sets, that is what will make it more expensive for those people.

Regardless, I'll give you some math though to justify it.

Lets use Triforce as an example. I paid about $0.20 for each extra key I bought after taking advantage of the price difference between the 200 and 100 price points. I'm now selling them for $4, making $3.80 on each key. This is my biggest opportunity to profit from the last group buy. After mistakes/miscalculations, I have about 55 keys to sell, making me a cool $288, and it only required me to do without $16 for the time it takes me to sell them. (This is all public knowledge by now and if you flame me for it your order gets cancelled.) Compare that to the Nyancat Set, which cost me $145 out of pocket and made me $375, I make $230 but the margins are lower while the investment is much higher. Now lets apply that to this group buy, in which the costs are much higher still than the Nyancat set.

If I was to buy extra Ragnarok keysets, say for the sake of example we do get 50 orders, and I want to buy up to 75 for the next discount anyways. That amounts to ($3375-2600) an additional investment of $775. Some members will be like well yeah, but think of it this way, you only paid $31 a keyset, which is a fantastic deal. Since there is not much room to sell these for profit, I'd probably only be able to unload them in a reasonably quick timeframe pricing them at $60. So I make $29 per keyset. I have 25 to sell, so I make a cool $725, which is a great profit, but wait, who do I sell them to? If nobody on here had bought them I could sell them in that reasonably quick timeframe, but finding a bunch of people who aren't already in on this is probably my biggest concern. That and I simply don't have $775 sitting around I can comfortably do without for a couple of months or more. For individual keys, the margins are much better, and the initial investment I can afford, so it is best for me to just get this group buy done quickly so I can get back to doing individual keys. Like I said before, it would be really nice if everyone was willing to pay a higher price so I could make a decent return for the time I'll be putting into this one, but I don't expect that of you. Essentially, unless I luck out and orders stall at like 65-70, I'm going to make maybe, MAYBE $100 off of this group buy. At 65 orders I essentially get 10 keysets that don't cost me anything to buy and I can try to sell them for $50-60 and try and make my usual $500-1000 in compensation I have been. This has basically become my job while in school, and I treat it like one. However, I love this community and again, am doing this group buy more so that everyone can get some damn doubleshots than for my own rent payment.

Anyways, my comment in the OP about how it would be really nice for me if everyone wanted to thank me by stalling it at like 49 sets and paying $70 was a bit of sarcasm, but it would mean I get like $830 in exchange for doing it and have one extra set to sell, so near as makes no difference $900. That would fall right in line with what I would want to make off of a group buy, but I do not expect that nor want that to happen, I would be much happier with stalling at 65 sets, as I then can get the keysets into the hands of more people and make that money by selling them, not just for taking advantage of the quantity discounts. Between 65 and 75 I actually make less as it gets closer to 75, its just that I have less kits to sell and less burden to bear.

Sorry for the longcat response but I wanted to be clear on this, full disclosure etc.


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One question, is the diamond super/meta key available in 1.25 also? (For filco)

Yes, by default, the base set comes with the 1.25x modifiers for the bottom row. The whole talk about 1.5x shenanigans is just so that guys with the Phantom keyboard can order extra keys in order to ensure Phantom compatibility. Disclaimer though, I know nothing about the Phantom keyboard, so if any of what is listed in the OP is incorrect, send your torches and pitchforks over to Tsangan.


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Ragnarok
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Phantom
1x Keyset

104
1x Keyset

Empty wallet logo on the modifiers.

That would be amazing lol. It looks like we're going to go with the diamond logo though, I've only gotten one vote for the windows key, and I personally despise Windows anyways. The blood splatter key wasn't something I was interested with or without an additional fee, for the reasons many have said before. In my next emails to Melissa I will ask her how big of a deal it would be to do one more custom key and have an empty wallet logo, and if there is no cutting fee for it I'll do it, would be great lol. (That would be the menu/meta or whatever key on the right side of the spacebar only) In the meantime we should get Hazel to see what he can do to make a logo that would work for a doubleshot. Honestly that is the biggest hurdle since you don't have much to work with.

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« Reply #38 on: Sat, 18 February 2012, 13:44:06 »
Diamond keys for all!
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« Reply #39 on: Sat, 18 February 2012, 13:47:54 »
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Diamond keys for all!

I agree. After all, a diamond is just a top view of an empty wallet.

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« Reply #40 on: Sat, 18 February 2012, 13:49:50 »
I don't own a traditional wallet :/

More like a money clip with openings for cards.
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« Reply #41 on: Sat, 18 February 2012, 13:51:14 »
Also not a huge fan of the wallet thing but dunno if that's just me, as long as that's an extra key and I don't need to use it I'm fine
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« Reply #42 on: Sat, 18 February 2012, 13:52:50 »
Yeah I may have been still a little groggy when I mulled that over. Its probably not going to work, I don't see in my head how a wallet with money coming out of it would look good as a doubleshot.

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« Reply #43 on: Sat, 18 February 2012, 13:54:29 »
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Yeah I may have been still a little groggy when I mulled that over. Its probably not going to work, I don't see in my head how a wallet with money coming out of it would look good as a doubleshot.

Now we're on the same page :P
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« Reply #44 on: Sat, 18 February 2012, 13:57:43 »
Whatever happened to the phantom doubleshot idea?
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« Reply #45 on: Sat, 18 February 2012, 14:00:36 »
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Whatever happened to the phantom doubleshot idea?

Not enough interest ._.
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« Reply #46 on: Sat, 18 February 2012, 14:02:58 »
That sucks.
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« Reply #47 on: Sat, 18 February 2012, 14:04:07 »
Phantom double shot? The keycap with the Phantom Mask logo? I'll be in for 5 :)

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« Reply #48 on: Sat, 18 February 2012, 14:08:48 »
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« Reply #49 on: Sat, 18 February 2012, 14:09:39 »
I'm still amazed anybody would take my suggestions seriously.

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« Reply #50 on: Sat, 18 February 2012, 14:10:03 »
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« Reply #51 on: Sat, 18 February 2012, 14:17:50 »
i would prefer no windows logo, but whatever. i'm also a firm believer in KISS

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« Reply #52 on: Sat, 18 February 2012, 14:18:21 »
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Whatever happened to the phantom doubleshot idea?

I think I ordered mine thru gb4. So to answer your question, there won't be any.

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« Reply #53 on: Sat, 18 February 2012, 14:21:49 »
The phantom mask would looks silly in red, jus sayin'.

But yeah we'll just go with a diamond instead of the windows key and the normal menu key that goes next to it on the right side.

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« Reply #54 on: Sat, 18 February 2012, 14:25:32 »
These prices are win. Ill be placing my order once I figure out what my friend and I need.

Super/diamond/Meta over standard legends tho...
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« Reply #55 on: Sat, 18 February 2012, 14:26:21 »
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The phantom mask would looks silly in red, jus sayin'.

But yeah we'll just go with a diamond instead of the windows key and the normal menu key that goes next to it on the right side.
Looks funny in my head is it just me? because the menu keys is more complex, could look nice though

You could go, diamond for the 2 win keys and circle for the menu key, or meta/super, I think any of those would fit better since the menu key would be out of place without it's window brother
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« Reply #56 on: Sat, 18 February 2012, 14:28:35 »
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I think I ordered mine thru gb4. So to answer your question, there won't be any.

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I was waiting for somebody to mention it being in round 4 so I could make a joke about it never happening (aka beating a dead horse) but tsangan shot down my dreams of being a comedian by giving me a straight answer lol.

Wait I'm confused, I thought the diamond key was specifically for the phantom kit since its a 1x key that could be programmed for anything? Thought we would still be going for a normal windows/menu kit for the base kit?
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« Reply #57 on: Sat, 18 February 2012, 14:29:28 »
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« Reply #58 on: Sat, 18 February 2012, 14:29:46 »
Are we deciding diamond for the base set or just phantom? Am I the only one who prefers super/diamond/Meta for the base sets? Normal legends are boring.
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« Reply #59 on: Sat, 18 February 2012, 14:29:53 »
Ragnarok
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OK fine, tsangan convinced me to get a Phantom kit... :poundit: