Author Topic: IC - 'Miami' 87+ set (Read 14996 times)

keyboardnoob · « **Reply #240 on:** Mon, 27 February 2012, 14:50:45 »

Quote from: devouringone3;528335

Great idea of color combination! I encourage that!

I wish I wasn't so cheapskate to never buy key caps.

*Edit:

Actually, wait a bit, how many sets have been ordered yet? I might be interested in the cheapest ones at 56.11 (75 sets) or maybe at 50 sets too.

Who makes those weird key caps?

I believe we have around 25 people interested ( as of now ).

devouringone3 · « **Reply #241 on:** Mon, 27 February 2012, 14:54:26 »

I like this simple font, is it the Filco one?

I suggest not changing it.

Will we get two Miami win key replacement? My keyboard as two winkeys.

Also the extra and larger keys are white, or white/grey, is that desired? Or they will end up being teal on pink just like the others?

devouringone3 · « **Reply #242 on:** Mon, 27 February 2012, 14:55:23 »

Quote from: keyboardnoob;528350

I believe we have around 25 people interested ( as of now ).

Thank you, this is only an interest check so we'll see next month how it will turn out!

hazeluff · « **Reply #243 on:** Mon, 27 February 2012, 14:58:35 »

Quote from: devouringone3;528353

I like this simple font, is it the Filco one?

I suggest not changing it.

Will we get two Miami win key replacement? My keyboard as two winkeys.

Also the extra and larger keys are white, or white/grey, is that desired? Or they will end up being teal on pink just like the others?

I can't say for the win keys.

But for the white, I believe it was intended, but it can always be changed. It's an interest check afterall.

The font in the mockup is Helvitica/Arial (no idea what the filco one is). But when manufactured it'll be a different font. The font atm is just for show.

IvanIvanovich · « **Reply #244 on:** Mon, 27 February 2012, 15:09:32 »

Additonal keys will be on white, Miami win keys x2, flamingo menu, WASD, possible some others... Well that is the current plan anyway. Font will be SP 'gorton' as anything else is quite a lot more expensive.

Not at all like 'Futura' which is the font used by Filco.

thegunner100 · « **Reply #245 on:** Mon, 27 February 2012, 15:37:40 »

So the font should look something like this?
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Shamelessly stolen from Ripster

IvanIvanovich · « **Reply #246 on:** Mon, 27 February 2012, 16:50:07 »

Yes. Just plain SP font. Like the previous groupbuy sets, but with the letters not so large. There are plenty of pics of them around, I'm too lazy to find a good one.

devouringone3 · « **Reply #247 on:** Mon, 27 February 2012, 17:42:17 »

Quote from: lysol;528372

Additonal keys will be on white, Miami win keys x2, flamingo menu, WASD, possible some others... Well that is the current plan anyway. Font will be SP 'gorton' as anything else is quite a lot more expensive.

Not at all like 'Futura' which is the font used by Filco.

I have just read ONE bad thing or TWO about signature plastic so it's is good that you want to keep it more straightforward and cheap while getting the job done!

I didn't know about fonts costing more than other fonts, I thought it was just a different set of mold for the machine.

I kind of dig the different colored larger custom keys actually! And white + pink looks very fitting with the rest. I was asking about it but I won't be among the ones suggesting to change it

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Tonight I'll see if I can think of some possible light improvements.

IvanIvanovich · « **Reply #248 on:** Mon, 27 February 2012, 17:50:24 »

That is why different font is more expensive, it is a different mold. New molds cost money, around $35 each. 87 new molds for keys in a custom font gets very expensive. An all custom font would add $3050 to the total cost.

I have my fair share of complaints about SP, but unfortunately they essentially have a monopoly going, and there is no other choices I have found.

devouringone3 · « **Reply #249 on:** Mon, 27 February 2012, 18:44:01 »

What is kerning? I have read this word quite a few times while reading the signature plastic rant thread, or wikis you call those?

It's not a literary definition I could find on Wordreference.com and I couldn't pinpoint it with my usual "kerning mean site:geekhack.org" Google search.

Lysol : not make new molds for each of us but give us a selection of basic fonts / molds they already have?

IvanIvanovich · « **Reply #250 on:** Mon, 27 February 2012, 19:06:48 »

Kerning is so it doesn't end up like GEEK HA CK but GEEK HACK like it should have been, space is a little too much in my example, but there is like a quarter space that shouldn't be there.

IvanIvanovich · « **Reply #251 on:** Mon, 27 February 2012, 19:45:30 »

I wish they would get with the proportional program... monospace is not cool.

devouringone3 · « **Reply #252 on:** Mon, 27 February 2012, 22:18:09 »

Quote from: ripster;528598

Good question. Between Jerome Kern and Kern County California it's not easy to Google:

I just added this to the Mechanical Keyboard Guide Glossary:

I'm sure Melissa knows this. She doesn't want to hassle with it.

Now Steve Jobs really got into proportional fonts. The only thing he learned from Reed College.

Omg Wikipedia... Not the first time this guy knows about a word dictionary doesn't.

I though it was a neologism only you guys using to describe a certain reality... not something this official.

Thank you, I understood that kerning (Google chrome underline me this word in red) was about having the right space between letters, in consideration of which two characters were making up for the pair of letters to be adjusted, one next to the other. Overlapping their "vital" space and making them a bit closer together to improve the look of a font. And the font used in command window doesn't have kerning.

It has nothing to do with "centerization" or alignment of the actual printed legend.

Zwi · « **Reply #253 on:** Mon, 27 February 2012, 23:52:48 »

relevant xkcd
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edit: just saw you posted the same pic in Geekhack Doubleshot thread guess I'm to slow :smile:

snowboarder3 · « **Reply #254 on:** Tue, 28 February 2012, 03:30:19 »

in at 50

duncan · « **Reply #255 on:** Tue, 28 February 2012, 08:07:06 »

Quote from: lysol;528672

monospace is not cool.

I beg to differ.

IvanIvanovich · « **Reply #256 on:** Tue, 28 February 2012, 11:29:57 »

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Proportional
monospace
poor kerning or is it monospace?
I don't think there is much argument that proportional looks far more appealing.

hazeluff · « **Reply #257 on:** Tue, 28 February 2012, 18:54:12 »

Quote from: ripster;529910

This I like. In a gay kind of way.
Show Image

However I am 78% confident Signature Plastics will screw it up. Probably will come out "GeekSmack".

Oblig: GLWIC.

"GeekSmack" sounds like some really kinky porno. Can we feature ripster as the MC?

IvanIvanovich · « **Reply #258 on:** Tue, 28 February 2012, 20:23:48 »

Well they technically could, they just won't since it has multiple line widths, and would require a cutter change... too much work for them apparently. What I don't get is that on graphic/icon type legends, they don't seem to have a problem with multiple line widths, or I am missing something?

longweight · « **Reply #259 on:** Wed, 29 February 2012, 05:47:05 »

Pleeease let this GB happen!

IvanIvanovich · « **Reply #260 on:** Wed, 29 February 2012, 13:53:08 »

It's happening, just trying to space it so it's not the same time as creamcheese.

lootbag · « **Reply #261 on:** Wed, 29 February 2012, 14:28:38 »

hey lysol, sorry if this was discussed and I missed it but will you be having the same Phantom addon kit as Ragnorock's group buy?

bazemk1979 · « **Reply #262 on:** Wed, 29 February 2012, 15:26:48 »

Quote from: lysol;531048

It's happening, just trying to space it so it's not the same time as creamcheese.

Nice to hear that Lysol, give it some time to run specially since Ragnarocks GB went so well and most likely will also the Cream cheese. I have no doubt this one will do well too even though has the pink color, the colors look rich and the combo of both is really nice, who cares if its pink when it looks good.

IvanIvanovich · « **Reply #263 on:** Wed, 29 February 2012, 15:47:24 »

Nothing but standard 87 ANSI kit is currently planned. If there is enough demand for other keys (ISO enter, 1.5 modifiers, numpad, etc), I will see about adding it.

bazemk1979 · « **Reply #264 on:** Wed, 29 February 2012, 16:13:29 »

Quote from: lysol;531174

Nothing but standard 87 ANSI kit is currently planned. If there is enough demand for other keys (ISO enter, 1.5 modifiers, numpad, etc), I will see about adding it.

would be nice to have gamer kit included or as option.

IvanIvanovich · « **Reply #265 on:** Wed, 29 February 2012, 16:29:29 »

I was addressing lootbags question about other keysizes. Set will still include the alternate WASD pink on white, the 1.25 Miami and flamingo keys, and geek hack keys. Other keys may be offered if there is enough interest for those that may want ISO keys, 1.5 or 1 unit modifiers, 1.75 or 2 unit shifts, numpads... Just not enough have asked for any of it at this time for me to even get a quote.

astr0s · « **Reply #266 on:** Thu, 01 March 2012, 04:38:19 »

I would be very much interested in the ISO version

Also, I was bored:
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thegunner100 · « **Reply #267 on:** Thu, 01 March 2012, 07:07:54 »

Quote from: astr0s;531823

I would be very much interested in the ISO version

Also, I was bored:
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That looks amazing... now if only you can get the legends onto there

IvanIvanovich · « **Reply #268 on:** Thu, 01 March 2012, 12:31:45 »

Very cool mock ups. I definitely prefer it on the white board... now I will have to get one for sure... dammit.

hazeluff · « **Reply #269 on:** Thu, 01 March 2012, 12:41:01 »

Yeah 3D board is really cool = D. Now I really need a white keyboard...damnit...

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Author Topic: IC - 'Miami' 87+ set (Read 14996 times)