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Offline sth

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« Reply #30 on: Thu, 15 March 2012, 13:27:15 »
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My FN key on my Apple Aluminum on W7.

IT DOESSS NOTHEEEEEEEEENNNN!
Do you have the boot camp drivers? Maybe it is just gone now. I don't have an AAK to try with, or anything running windows 7 except my work machine.

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« Reply #31 on: Thu, 15 March 2012, 18:46:47 »
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You can use a driver under windows.


Which one? Matias provides a "driver" for the TP3 to swap Win and Alt but it's a pathetic AutoHotkey script that doesn't work properly (and doesn't work at all on remote sessions) (I don't know AutoHotkey enough to know whether it should work, it's great albeit a tad erratic). Otherwise, my TP3 seems to work OK, with F15 behaving as Pause/Break as it should for example. I seem to recall that Apple's Wired Aluminium wasn't as co-operative over F13–F15. And they botched the ISO enter – I end up hitting the case where the key should be.

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fn-Down arrow. It's probably the funniest joke I've ever heard. Haw haw haw.


Depends what you want. On a Mac, you use opt-arrows and cmd-arrows to move the insertion point, so "home" is either cmd-opt-up (move insertion point to beginning of the document) or cmd-left (move to start of line). The home/end/pg up/down keys move the viewport independently of the insertion point, i.e. they control the scrollbars only. The pg up key on a Mac is the same as clicking the scroll bar above the thumb, i.e. the viewport is moved, and typing anything will scroll back to where you were.

(There are only two things wrong with the HHKB/Poker etc – the Web is a nightmare to use with the keyboard, as is half of Windows 7 (Microsoft have pretty much given up on keyboard accessibility now with 7 being far worse than XP with all of 7's rubbish webby control panels and dialogs), and keyboard-only scrolling is a nuisance, as you can only scroll by one line or one page; you need a little roller at the front of keyboard for controlled scrolling, maybe with "go slow", "go fast", and "switch to x axis" meta buttons to give you the degree of control you'd have with the mouse.)

« Last Edit: Thu, 15 March 2012, 18:47:28 by Daniel Beardsmore »
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Offline sebooth

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« Reply #32 on: Mon, 16 April 2012, 18:29:38 »
I'm loving my Filco majestouch ninja 2 accompanied by keyremap4macbook and a bunch of blank keycaps on some keys.  It arrived earlier today and I'm awake far too late playing with it :-)  Keyremap was a super discovery - it'll stop my husband complaining about the keyboard he's had to attach to his mac (after he poured red wine all over the mac keyboard he had before).

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« Reply #33 on: Mon, 23 April 2012, 09:51:51 »
I just recently got a black widow stealth, PC version even though I almost always use mac OS. tweaked the keys withbkeyremap4macbook, works great.  I mention this because it seems to meet your criteria, and as razor does make a mac version, you might be able to just contact them and get them to send you a couple of the mac legend key caps.

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« Reply #34 on: Mon, 23 April 2012, 19:38:15 »
I am getting the standard Das S Professional, so I will let you guys know how it works.

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« Reply #35 on: Wed, 02 May 2012, 21:16:18 »
What's out there more powerful the keyremap4macbook? I don't know what to do with the Application key and insert key. Print screen, scroll lock and pause are sorta annoying sitting there doing nothing, and F12 is both eject and dashboard. Now using a Leopold TKL. I'm getting obsessive... maybe that's why I wanted a Poker...

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« Reply #36 on: Wed, 02 May 2012, 22:08:30 »
I remapped the application key to cmd space, which I have mapped to Quicksilver (because... **** spotlight).

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« Reply #37 on: Wed, 02 May 2012, 22:25:47 »
Yeah I turn off all that stuff within the regular keyboard pref pane.

I can't get the insert key to do anything whatsoever (none of the FN functions work, which may be normal, and I cannot map it to anything else). But, I am getting a key code from insert with "Full Key Codes".

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« Reply #38 on: Wed, 02 May 2012, 22:27:07 »
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Yeah I turn off all that stuff within the regular keyboard pref pane.

I can't get the insert key to do anything whatsoever (none of the FN functions work, which may be normal, and I cannot map it to anything else). But, I am getting a key code from insert with "Full Key Codes".
KR4M supports custom XML but I have never looked into it.

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« Reply #39 on: Thu, 03 May 2012, 01:57:27 »
wow,so cool.

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« Reply #40 on: Sun, 06 May 2012, 21:07:28 »
i use m0110, m0110a, aek I, matias pro, and mx8000 (that i installed a1048 controller and rewired the pcb)
my favorite is the first three.
to use m0110 and m0110a, you need teensy and also need to program it. the source code is developed by hasu, a member here.

Offline wooger

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« Reply #41 on: Sun, 13 May 2012, 13:26:44 »
1)
I don't much care about appearance, key cap legends etc. but what I do care about is the actual layout and position of the command keys (or alt keys). On a Mac keyboard, the right of the command key is in line with the right of the x key. This is IMO better for ergonomics all around. I haven't been able to find any mechanical that copies this from the Mac keyboards, and it sucks.

To honest, if I could I'd make the spacebar even shorter than it is on the Mac 'board and move the command, option and Carl keys further towards the centre.

I wonder if anyone will ever actually match the Mac command key position with a mechanical. Maybe a group buy custom order would work...?

2)
Are there any Bluetooth mechanical keyboards of any sort, with a Mac layout or not? I really want to get one to use with my iPad, but I just can't find anything better than the apple Bluetooth keyboard at the moment. Help.

Offline Netdewt

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« Reply #42 on: Sun, 13 May 2012, 13:57:40 »
You can swap the keys in the keyboard pref pane. Done.

Or get a JP layout?

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« Reply #43 on: Sun, 13 May 2012, 14:38:10 »
Also, as ripster posted before the rollback, here is the JP layout HHKB:



I don't really like that the HHKB has those blank spots on the front side of the board, but at the moment I kinda want one for reasons I do not understand.


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« Reply #44 on: Sun, 13 May 2012, 16:52:50 »
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You can swap the keys in the keyboard pref pane. Done.

Almost. Doesn't change the right modifier layout, just the left side.

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« Reply #45 on: Sun, 13 May 2012, 18:20:29 »
You can change both sides. No you can't make it 3 keys instead of 4, of course. Use keyremap4macbook to change the application key. I don't use the right side anyways.

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« Reply #46 on: Sun, 13 May 2012, 18:33:12 »
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You can change both sides. No you can't make it 3 keys instead of 4, of course. Use keyremap4macbook to change the application key. I don't use the right side anyways.
Doesn't work on my Mac. Only the left modifiers are affected by the built in remap option.

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« Reply #47 on: Sun, 13 May 2012, 20:20:37 »
That's weird! I even remapped them with the OS then re-remapped them with kr4m.

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« Reply #48 on: Tue, 15 May 2012, 16:08:06 »
Well, I am sure that someone has already mentioned this, but as promised, my Das Professional S (printed) works great on my macbook pro. The only thing is that the scroll and num lock obviously don't do anything (they aren't possible functions in OS X) but other than that, it is fine. 6KRO over USB