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« Reply #180 on: Wed, 28 March 2012, 20:19:32 »
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Gunmetal is pretty close to the unfinished color of these isn't it?


Nar man gunmetal is considerably darker, like this
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« Reply #181 on: Wed, 28 March 2012, 20:29:50 »
I would be down for the gunmetal color as well.

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« Reply #182 on: Wed, 28 March 2012, 20:30:06 »
gunmetal is a dark grey. the paint will also give us the ability to control reflectivity: matte, crinkle, slightly metallic, etc.

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« Reply #183 on: Thu, 29 March 2012, 11:39:15 »
I would rather just have it bare.  It's really not that expensive to get one powder coated if you shop around your area.  Or just powder coat a bunch of stuff at one time.  Or get some bake-on powder coat that you can cure in your oven (use a friend's oven).

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« Reply #184 on: Thu, 29 March 2012, 11:41:07 »
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I would rather just have it bare.  It's really not that expensive to get one powder coated if you shop around your area.  Or just powder coat a bunch of stuff at one time.  Or get some bake-on powder coat that you can cure in your oven (use a friend's oven).

I didn't really think about it, but a small powdercoating kit would be really cheap, and if you get low temp powder you can totally bake them at home...

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« Reply #185 on: Thu, 29 March 2012, 11:44:23 »
how well does just multi coats of spray paint and clear coat adhere to aluminum?

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« Reply #186 on: Thu, 29 March 2012, 12:20:30 »
every shop i queried had a high enough minimum order that it was pretty far from "cheap" to get a single unit coated.

i also don't buy this oven curing. it sounds like unless you have a compressor and some kind of spray gun for it already diy would be just as expensive as the minimum charges at these shops.

if you look at the case modding community, everything except for straight krylon is actually really pricey (they're auto paints basically, and require adequate prepping, then primer then expensive auto paints then a clear coat)

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« Reply #187 on: Thu, 29 March 2012, 12:35:43 »
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how well does just multi coats of spray paint and clear coat adhere to aluminum?
There's more to the process than that, but spray-on clear coat sort of sucks.

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« Reply #188 on: Thu, 29 March 2012, 13:35:47 »
Going to Chrome dip mine, if I can. :D

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« Reply #189 on: Fri, 30 March 2012, 09:57:26 »
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« Reply #190 on: Fri, 30 March 2012, 10:46:18 »
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There's more to the process than that, but spray-on clear coat sort of sucks.

hmm...I figured as much. Every car I ever had, I just get like 10-15 cans of flat black spray paint at walmart and good to town, tho that is steel; and I want my cars to look like ****, but not my keyboard haha

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« Reply #191 on: Fri, 30 March 2012, 12:55:28 »
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« Reply #192 on: Fri, 30 March 2012, 13:28:45 »
I visited both the metal working place and the coloring place today and I have some fantastic news:

1. The case should be compatible with the Pure now as well. I made another cut out for the second integrated circuit on the underside of the Pure's PCB and I got another hole tapped between G and H. The cut out should work perfectly since I made it a little larger than strictly necessary and if the hole for the screw is somehow wrong the Pure would still fit inside just without using the middle screw (or you could attempt to tap a hole on your own afterwards).

2. The coloring place can brush aluminum, so we'll be going with brushed aluminum instead of glass beading for the outside finish which should look a lot nicer. They told me that brushing costs "about $4" for the case. I'll have to see how this affects our costs. While it's true that we won't have to pay for glass beading anymore, our final order count was a fair amount under what I had originally asked a quote for so I asked him to give me another quote. However since these are done by hand the cost is pretty linear since you are mostly paying for labor, it's just the setup costs that will be spread over fewer orders. For the most part I think I can absorb this cost myself.

3. For coloring, they can anodize the case for "about $4." This would be just the outer case and not the metal insert. If you wanted the metal insert colored it would be another $3. They only have red, blue and gold and the minimum charge per color is around $90. So we either have to all pick the same color or we could pick two colors but then we'd have to pay double the amount. Because of how anodizing is done we can't tack it anymore and it will have to be glued later. Again I just want to say that while gluing sounds less elegant, functionally speaking it will be more than strong enough to keep the two pieces together, and this had been the original plan anyways. I'll put up a thread for anodizing and PM all the people who ordered cases to get their input.

Production should start on Monday or the day after and should take a couple of days. Anodizing and brushing would take about 5-6 days (they have to "heat up the tanks" which alone takes 3 days).

If any of these changes make you unhappy, feel free to talk about it here or in a PM to me and you can always request a refund if you want to bail out.
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« Reply #193 on: Fri, 30 March 2012, 13:35:21 »
I'm psyched about all of that except it would be nice if they had more color options. Could you get pictures of what they mean by "red," "blue," and "gold?" Or tell us the name of the coloring place, I'm sure they have samples on their website. Also, do you think it would look like a finished product if it was brushed but not anodized? because that might actually be my vote. That or blue anodized, depending on the shade.

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« Reply #194 on: Fri, 30 March 2012, 13:38:54 »
A+ oneproduct! thanks!

i want both my insert and frame anodized. brushed aluminum = apple products, btw.

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« Reply #195 on: Fri, 30 March 2012, 13:42:46 »
and i just sent payment

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« Reply #196 on: Fri, 30 March 2012, 13:48:15 »
yeah, team blue. and I'd also like my insert anodized too, do I need to send you more money for that?

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« Reply #197 on: Fri, 30 March 2012, 13:48:49 »
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I'm psyched about all of that except it would be nice if they had more color options. Could you get pictures of what they mean by "red," "blue," and "gold?" Or tell us the name of the coloring place, I'm sure they have samples on their website. Also, do you think it would look like a finished product if it was brushed but not anodized? because that might actually be my vote. That or blue anodized, depending on the shade.


I just put up the new thread here: http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?29356-ANODIZING-for-aluminum-poker-cases

You can see samples of the colors, though ours will turn out a bit darker. If you don't get it anodized it will look very nice too, exactly as these look but in the natural aluminum color. I plan to leave mine un-anodized, but I might end up buying a second one in color.
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« Reply #198 on: Fri, 30 March 2012, 14:15:50 »
Actually, if people could put their interests in anodizing in this spreadsheet it would be easier for me: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ai3njS0ds_RVdFpxaXJodlZEU1pYTVl4VkJuOTdDelE

If you have any special instructions, such as not gluing the two pieces together, please put them in there as well.

You can still place new orders until Monday!
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« Reply #199 on: Fri, 30 March 2012, 19:29:14 »
Hey oneproduct, put me down for 1 more case.

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« Reply #200 on: Fri, 30 March 2012, 23:03:58 »
Since I know how many cases we have now I can start ordering the extra little parts. Any body care to chime in on brass vs stainless steel? The screw I need is #2-56 and of 5/16" length if you care to suggest others. Trying to keep to Phillips (cross) or flat/slot to keep things easy for people. The head of the screw has to be flat on the bottom side.

http://www.amazon.com/Stainless-Machine-Fillister-Slotted-Length/dp/B000FN1VAK/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1333165998&sr=8-8

http://www.amazon.com/Brass-Machine-Screw-Phillips-Length/dp/B000FN193Y/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1333165998&sr=8-1
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« Reply #201 on: Fri, 30 March 2012, 23:41:22 »
brass, phillips head: looks cool, should be softer than the aluminum

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« Reply #202 on: Fri, 30 March 2012, 23:42:26 »
Stainless I guess seeing as they're cheaper?  Preferably phillips head.
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« Reply #203 on: Sat, 31 March 2012, 00:25:13 »
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should be softer than the aluminum

Ah yes, that's a good point, going with that.
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« Reply #204 on: Sat, 31 March 2012, 01:44:51 »
Now I have to get some boxes, bubble wrap, glue and insulation. I'll do some looking on my own starting Tuesday next week (will be busy with homework this weekend) but any hints/suggestions will be welcome! :) I'm pretty sure the boxes and bubble wrap that Canada Post offers are very expensive compared to what it should cost.
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« Reply #205 on: Sat, 31 March 2012, 02:15:56 »
I might get some hate, but I vote for walmart when it comes to boxes, bubble wrap, and tape. They actually might even have rolls of that insulation in the kitchen section I bet.

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« Reply #206 on: Sat, 31 March 2012, 04:53:01 »
If not walmart check if you have a shipping store or some company that does that along with office supply (staples, grand and toy) near you. I've found them to be much better for bulk stuff than just the post office.

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« Reply #207 on: Sun, 01 April 2012, 01:38:33 »
Hey, this is food for thought, but could you just do a bottom plate for the Poker? No sides welded on, except for maybe a "guard" to protect the USB connector. Maybe a "lip" to protect the edges of the PCB if you have the capability to do press forming.
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« Reply #208 on: Sun, 01 April 2012, 05:22:03 »
At this point that's not going to happen, but Vortex's case is pretty minimal like that with exposed switches so you could get one of those when they came out.
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« Reply #209 on: Sun, 01 April 2012, 10:02:24 »
sent payment for second case