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Offline Human

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http://www.waishehome.cn/thread-47762-1-1.html

How many of you here being waiting for such a layout?!!?!?!?
Tenkeyless without compromising on productivity.

The sad part is that it uses a strange layout at numpad when numlock off...

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http://www.waishehome.cn/thread-47760-1-1.html


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Offline phormality

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I like it.  I'd like a Mac version of it as well.

Offline Tarkoon

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Is it rubberdome, Cherry, Topre, ALPS?
But the layout is indeed very nice!

Offline tp4tissue

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http://www.waishehome.cn/thread-47762-1-1.html

How many of you here being waiting for such a layout?!!?!?!?
Tenkeyless without compromising on productivity.

The sad part is that it uses a strange layout at numpad when numlock off...


Hmmmm........ yea it's pretty sweet.. I would hold off until late into the product cycle,, being multilayered and all, I envision problems // screwups

Is it firmware updatable??


Also, copy of the dolce???

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Offline Human

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Quote from: Tarkoon;566715
Is it rubberdome, Cherry, Topre, ALPS?
But the layout is indeed very nice!


Both KBs above are Cherry switches(cause it is the only switch that had market in China).

Quote from: tp4tissue;566718
Hmmmm........ yea it's pretty sweet.. I would hold off until late into the product cycle,, being multilayered and all, I envision problems // screwups

Is it firmware updatable??


Also, copy of the dolce???

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Details unsure.

The keyboard is being designed from scratch(but the idea isn't anything new). Such layout is to fit those people who like to have keyboard with the footprint of TKL but still need numpad. Such layout are normal on 15"+ laptops.

Infact by combining the main clusters with numpad, you won't even need to use the dedicated arrow keys, del , home and so on. You can just numlock on and off to change between numpad and arrow keys as you like.
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Offline tp4tissue

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Quote from: Human;566743
Both KBs above are Cherry switches(cause it is the only switch that had market in China).

there's also alotta anti-japanese products psychology in China, so that may explain why topre isn't as popular,,, ALTHOUGH japanese pr0n  is somehow excluded from the racism.

Offline Human

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there's also alotta anti-japanese products psychology in China, so that may explain why topre isn't as popular,,, ALTHOUGH japanese pr0n  is somehow excluded from the racism.
True, but not 100%. Japanese products are still deemed as high qualities. FILCO is still worshiped as top tier keyboard over other competitor.
I believe topre's price is the main reason that it isn't popular.

For the pr0n part, can't deny it. I came from a multiracial country(which also being ruled by Japan b4) and I had seen that those foreign Japan stuffs(JAV, JManga, JAnime and so on) are actually promoting racial integration effectively than any other mean.

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Not for me, if I had to choose I'd prefer cursor keys over a num pad
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^^You're Taiwanese?

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Quote from: Human;566709
How many of you here being waiting for such a layout?!!?!?!?

Well, me, for one!

The key layout is perfect. Even if they don't get the controller / layers exactly right, it's so much easier to swap in a different controller than start from scratch.

Offline tp4tissue

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^^You're Taiwanese?

My taiwanese nationalism sense is tingling.  Since he was describing Taiwan as a "country"..... I'm not gonna say it's not,,, but lets just say if it were,, then it might as well be little Fuzhou, because i have 29 cousins living there from the branch of my family that fled the cultural revolution.

Offline Human

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Not for me, if I had to choose I'd prefer cursor keys over a num pad

Once you get used to the arrow keys on numpad when num-lock off, trust me you won't want to go back to the cramped up arrow keys at bottom rows....
The one on numpad isn't as cramped up and also it is having same rows as to the famous WASD.

In this case, they make it that the arrow keys been placed as if real arrow keys, which is what may suit your taste(but not mine...).

Offline herseil

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Whoa, that's the kind of layout I've been wishing for all these time :becky:

Will keep eye on it one for sure

Offline IvanIvanovich

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Great, now when and where can I buy it? Google translate makes no sense of the forum linked... who is it being made by? Looks like Noppoo.

Offline Human

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Great, now when and where can I buy it? Google translate makes no sense of the forum linked... who is it being made by? Looks like Noppoo.
That board is designed and probably going to be made by PLUM(which also made Noppoo and Neo Zelia87 IIRC).
Probably need another few months till it being launced in taobao.
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PCB or plate-mounted?

Offline Human

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PCB or plate-mounted?

Not sure, not much information for the time being. But it will be having predrilled holes and circuit for LED mounting like Neo Zelia did, so the chances for PCB mounted is probably higher...
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Offline tp4tissue

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PCB or plate-mounted?

How is the switch attached to the plate if it's plate mounted,, is it a clip>>

Offline ahjota

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Looks awesome. I think it's a great idea.

Of course, now I want a left-handed version of this...
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Quote from: mkeeley;566969
Not for me, if I had to choose I'd prefer cursor keys over a num pad
I might be wrong but if I am interpreting the image below correctly you can probably toggle the number pad on/off and when the number pad is "off" the four keys with the arrows act as cursor keys

http://i.imgur.com/HfDSG.jpg
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Offline Human

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I might be wrong but if I am interpreting the image below correctly you can probably toggle the number pad on/off and when the number pad is "off" the four keys with the arrows act as cursor keys

http://i.imgur.com/HfDSG.jpg

Of course it is, but my whine is that why don't they follow the default layout on numpad(2468 for cursors and 7193 for home, end, pgup and pgdn). It will work much better than the pseudo cursor keys simulation(the extra keys around will be a hinder to use the cursor keys in normal way)...

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looks like reaper's HHMX
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^ Or 7bit layout. =P


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Isn't this that layout that WASD was suggesting?
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Layout suggested to WASD Keyboards, I think it was.  It is already on the Roccat Arvo, which is not a mechanical keyboard. The layout has been discussed every now and then since I registered here.
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Offline Nadger

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looks awesome, that keyboard would get me to loosen my death grip on my wallet for a 2nd mechanical.

very similar to the ideal layout i posted months ago

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Offline nar

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Oh, the arrow keys on the numpad are laid out in the Reversed T shape? I always thought they were the standard layout on numpads...
This layout just instantly went from unusable for me to must buy.
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Offline Human

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Oh, the arrow keys on the numpad are laid out in the Reversed T shape? I always thought they were the standard layout on numpads...
This layout just instantly went from unusable for me to must buy.

I still prefer the default "+" shaped cursor keys. The reversed T mapped on "0", "00", "." and "2" may not be a good choice as your finger tend to touch "1" and "3" when you use it...

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Quote from: nar;569575
Oh, the arrow keys on the numpad are laid out in the Reversed T shape? I always thought they were the standard layout on numpads...
This layout just instantly went from unusable for me to must buy.

Mine doesn't have reversed T arrows.


Offline nar

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I guess it's dependent on the specific keyboard whether or not the arrows are the standard shape or not.
Since I'm used to using the compact style keyboards where the arrow keys are surrounded by keys anyways, the 1 and 3 don't bother me.
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