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Offline dmbr

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So....what makes Filcos so great?
« on: Sat, 12 May 2012, 00:11:10 »
Simple question: What exactly is it about Filcos that sets the brand apart from other mechanical keyboards?

Offline dmbr

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« Reply #1 on: Sat, 12 May 2012, 00:13:33 »
Why?

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« Reply #2 on: Sat, 12 May 2012, 00:14:34 »
Filcos are made with chopped off unicorn horns.
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Offline dmbr

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« Reply #3 on: Sat, 12 May 2012, 00:17:06 »
I see. So, they're not that great, eh?

Thanks.

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« Reply #4 on: Sat, 12 May 2012, 00:18:30 »
Yes, Filcos are great. My Filco is probably the best keyboard I've ever owned. No regrets.

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« Reply #5 on: Sat, 12 May 2012, 00:18:54 »
Filcos are great because they're endorsed by the #1 keyboard expert on planet earth. It's a good enough reason!
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Offline dmbr

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« Reply #6 on: Sat, 12 May 2012, 00:20:45 »
Come on guys, be nice :(

What exactly sets them apart from, say, Noppoo's quality-wise? I'd really appreciate an earnest reply.

Offline funxion

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« Reply #7 on: Sat, 12 May 2012, 00:24:55 »
What dante said. They're extremely simple, easy to use, and quality is evident.

Price is a bit high compared to a Leopold, seeing as though they're extremely similar, I'm interested in trying a Leopold as one of my next boards if I stick with Cherry's.
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Offline demik

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« Reply #8 on: Sat, 12 May 2012, 00:30:53 »
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two reasons:

1) no detachable cables
2) no bs embedded media functions

keep it simple stupid

camo had media functions
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Offline REVENGE

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« Reply #9 on: Sat, 12 May 2012, 00:31:50 »
Because it Pings.
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« Reply #10 on: Sat, 12 May 2012, 01:16:03 »
Quote from: dante;590382
gross...

Not when I paid only $80 for them :X
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Offline dmbr

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« Reply #11 on: Sat, 12 May 2012, 01:17:23 »
Thanks for the good replies :)

What's bad about media functions, though?

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« Reply #12 on: Sat, 12 May 2012, 01:46:42 »
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Filcos are made with chopped off unicorn horns.


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Offline canon.tk

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« Reply #13 on: Sat, 12 May 2012, 12:42:18 »
Filcos have a great feel to them.  I wouldn't recommend any other brand.

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« Reply #14 on: Sat, 12 May 2012, 12:47:03 »
Can't say that I really noticed much better about them quality wise compared to a Das or a WASDkeyboard (other ones with metal bar stabilizers). While I haven't tried a CM storm myself, it seems like it would be a very good choice for a standard looking mechanical keyboard given its price.
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« Reply #15 on: Sat, 12 May 2012, 13:25:34 »
I say generally less problems out of the box. I think Costar improved the tenkeyless molding for the CM Storm case top. It has less bow in it, inverted T is better aligned, and left side is not too close to the left most key. Though the bottom part of the case feels cheaper, thinner, and more resonant. 1 step forward 2 step back.

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« Reply #16 on: Sat, 12 May 2012, 13:33:30 »
I have a Filco and a Noppoo mini on my desk in front of me, the Filco has much better build quality, the keys are much nicer and it just generally looks amazing.

the Noppoo is still a great board but it does feel like it costs half the price.

Buy a Filco and then work your way down through the other boards :P

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« Reply #17 on: Sat, 12 May 2012, 13:41:21 »
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Filcos are made with chopped off unicorn horns.


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« Reply #18 on: Sat, 12 May 2012, 13:55:14 »
Ripster: What's the serial number range of yours? Mine is made 2011-08.

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« Reply #19 on: Sat, 12 May 2012, 14:06:13 »
Could be early/late batch difference? Mine is 110800107. Your legends don't have the slightly rough surface mine has. The roughness is particularly more noticeable on the side print.

Just destroyed a Ninja key for science! It is lasered. Also destroyed a CM Rapid's logo key, and it is also laser printed.
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Offline shawn o

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« Reply #21 on: Sat, 12 May 2012, 15:35:18 »
What makes Filco keyboards so great is that they aren't special or gimicky. They are basic, no frills, and of high quality. No extra keys, no media keys, no flashy colors (other than special editions).....

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« Reply #22 on: Sat, 12 May 2012, 15:40:15 »
What is the advantage of having an attached cable? I would think detachable is better, since a cable can be damaged and troubleshooting a bad attached cable would be a major pain.
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Offline limmy

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« Reply #23 on: Sun, 13 May 2012, 03:46:56 »
I think squarebox is right. (However, I am assuming that the Filco numpad and Filco boards utilizes same printing technique.)

Here is x60 photo of Filco numpad I have been using on and off for 5 years. It is * key. It is stained a bit due to use.
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There are dots, suggesting they may be laser burned. I looked at couple of pad printed keys on my Thinkpad, I could not see any dots like this.

I am not sure if there are more than one kind of pad prints, but judging from the dots and the edges created by the dots, I am going to call this laser burned.

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The above is copy of my previous post.

Also, it would be not very economic to do pad print on the side of the keys, while it is pretty easy to do side print with laser.

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« Reply #24 on: Sun, 13 May 2012, 04:50:03 »
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What is the advantage of having an attached cable? I would think detachable is better, since a cable can be damaged and troubleshooting a bad attached cable would be a major pain.

I totally agree, and this is one of my very few complaints about Filcos, which are otherwise my go-to keyboard of choice these days.  CMQF Storms are starting to win me over though.  I understand that Costar makes both Filcos and CMQF.  I still contend that Filco just feels better built.  Kind of like driving a BMW.  CMQF is like driving a Subaru.  They are both well built, but the Filco is tighter.  The CMQF has branding all over it like a kid's Tonka toy, and just feels a wee bit more flimsy.  

That gorram hardwired 2m cable on the Filco just pisses me off to no end though.  I like to hook up a keyboard to my Air, and while the TKL fits fine, that long dangling cable is annoying, and DANGEROUS when moving about.  I have more than once caught it on a door handle and very nearly sent $3000 worth of equipment crashing to the ground.  That isn't even a concern with a 12" cable with a right angle mini-b USB attachment.

Also, while Filco's "media keys" appear only on the Camo keyboard, they SUCK.  Filco decided to obliterate the Alt key on the left side of the keyboard in order to install their FN key (let's call that the ****N stupid key).  Meanwhile, CMQF appears to have been designed by someone with more than fish for brains.  They obliterate the key I don't even have a name for... the "list of crap with a cursor arrow on it" key, to use as the "media key" activator.  This is wonderful!  Every key works like it should, but you still have access to screen brightness and quick volume control with a two-key combination.

If CMQF would come in a Filco build quality, just a bit more solidly built, and without all the damn branding all over it, they would be hard to touch--particularly at their price point!

Oh, one other small difference: Filco puts the capslock, scrolllock lights over above the six-pack.  CMQF puts the lights in the keys themselves.  I'm torn on which I prefer, but since I rarely use any of those keys it's almost moot (except when capslock gets switched on accidentally and passwords stop working  :-P)

This post was brought to you by a CMQF MXReds with RagRed keycaps.  I don't have a Filco Reds, so I can't compare, but this CMQF feels every bit as solid as my Filcos, so maybe they have improved in the last few months.  My primary comparison is Filco Blues vs. CMQF Blues.
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« Reply #25 on: Sun, 13 May 2012, 15:02:00 »
Filco appears to be a super keyboard. But my experience told me otherwise. You have to be lucky to have a perfect condition Filco. If one of my Filcos didn't have the flaw to register a key twice, it pinged, which annoyed me. I will never buy a Filco again. It is hype , if you ask me. I'd rather buy a CMStorm Quickfire or pendants (like mstones groove87: http://idfkr.com/front/php/product.php?product_no=150&main_cate_no=&display_group=)

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« Reply #26 on: Sun, 13 May 2012, 17:52:52 »
In my opinion, overpriced and rare. You can receive the same quality from other boards with a few minor drawbacks.
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« Reply #27 on: Sun, 13 May 2012, 17:58:21 »
Japanese QC is pretty high and the case isn't rounded.

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« Reply #28 on: Mon, 14 May 2012, 02:03:38 »
Quote from: ripster;590851
That's why yours are lasered and mine are pad printed.
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The local distributor was having a promo for 10 pieces of camo for USD$80. They still can be found at retail level around USD$145.

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« Reply #29 on: Mon, 14 May 2012, 09:26:24 »
I own several keyboards and two Filcos are the best ones. They are high quality, sturdy and reliable keyboard. The price may be a bit expensive, but I see them as investment in working environments - I type a lot in my career.
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