Cherry MX (taking pre-orders!)

[7bit]

The Cherry switches for the Phantom orders ship this week, but there is still demand for more!

Please submit your order to user CherryMX !

Order-format (to be pm'ed to CherryMX):
MXCLEAR 100
MXWHITE 50
you@e-mail.address

Pricelist Plate mount (without pins)

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MXRED        |0.7|MX1A-L1NN L/L  (12/2012)
MXBLACK      |0.7|MX1A-11NN L/M  (available?)
MXDARKGREY   |0.7|MX1A-21NN L/S  (available?)
MXLOCK       |3.6|MX1A-31NN L/SL (available)
MXBROWN      |0.7|MX1A-G1NN T/L  (02/2013)
MXCLEAR      |0.7|MX1A-C1NN T/M  (in stock)
MXGREY       |0.7|MX1A-D1NN T/S  (available)
MXBLUE       |0.7|MX1A-E1NN C/L  (in stock)
MXGREEN      |0.7|MX1A-F1NN C/M  (in stock)
MXWHITE      |0.7|MX1A-A1NN SC/M (available?)

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Pricelist PCB mount (with pins)

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MXRED/NW     |0.7|MX1A-L1NW L/L  (02/2013)
MXBLACK/NW   |0.7|MX1A-11NW L/M  (available)
MXDARKGREY/NW|0.7|MX1A-21NW L/S  (available)
MXLOCK/NW    |3.6|MX1A-31NW L/SL (in stock)
MXBROWN/NW   |0.7|MX1A-G1NW T/L  (02/2013)
MXCLEAR/NW   |0.7|MX1A-C1NW T/M  (02/2013)
MXGREY/NW    |0.7|MX1A-D1NW T/S  (02/2013)
MXBLUE/NW    |0.7|MX1A-E1NW C/L  (02/2013)
MXGREEN/NW   |0.7|MX1A-F1NW C/M  (02/2013)
MXWHITE/NW   |0.7|MX1A-A1NW SC/M (in stock)

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in stock: In stock at the supplier
available: available from Cherry within 8-12 weeks
available?: should be available from Cherry within 8-12 weeks, but not confirmed
mm/yyyy: available in ca. mm/yyyy

Prices might be lower, as quantities are higher.

The price for the MXLOCK is not too high, but it was too low last time (we where just lucky).

Shipping costs are $5 no matter how many are ordered.

Prices are in USD but you can pay in EUR using a fixed exchange rate of 1 EUR = 1.3 USD.

Please notice that some switch-types are not available right now (late 2012 / early 2013).
I will ship whatever I get, so you can pre-order any switch and get all the available switches earlier.

[Djuzuh]

Did you do a collection group ? .

Also, nice !

[merijn]

Do I need plate mount switches or pcb mount switches for the poker DIY and the ErgoDox/Ergo64?

[7bit]

Do I need plate mount switches or pcb mount switches for the poker DIY and the ErgoDox/Ergo64?

As far as I know, the Poker is onlt a PCB, no mount plate, so you need the PCB mountable switches (with the 2 plastic pins at the bottom).

[demik]

With pins means the stabilizing feet right? Or are these coming with diodes

[MMB]

Do I need plate mount switches or pcb mount switches for the poker DIY and the ErgoDox/Ergo64?

You need plate mount switches if you ordered the plate mount in the DIY kit.

Edit: nvm, I think you can use pcb even with the plate mount.

[demik]

You need plate mount switches if you ordered the plate mount in the DIY kit.

Edit: nvm, I think you can use pcb even with the plate mount.

You can. It'll just make the switch even more stable.

[Djuzuh]

because some PCBs don't have the holes for the PCB mounted switchs.

So you need to cut off the 2 extra pins, and tadaa.

TL;DR: order PCB*mounted switchs. Unless you know you want pcb mounted switchs.

[demik]

Maybe some companies don't want the extra work of punching two more holes per switch?

[hashbaz]

Gentelmen, start your wallets.

[Djuzuh]

Oh and, How low can we go with the prices if we order a lot?

[Djuzuh]

quick question: does Filco contain the two extra holes needed for pcb mounted - or do they have to be drilled in?

you don't drill in your PCB, you cut the pins from the switch .

[demik]

quick question: does Filco or WASD contain the two extra holes needed for pcb mounted - or do they have to be drilled in?

Any popular plate mounted boards that don't have the extra two holes?

If its plate mounted, 99.9% it won't have the extra holes.

Hell, I've only really seen Korean custom boards do both.

[Zehkul]

And DECK, afaik.

MXBROWN      |0.7|MX1A-G1NN T/L  (02/2013)

Uhm. WAT? 2013? Lol.

available: available from Cherry within 8-12 weeks

So you ordered directly from Cherry? I thought they had 100k MOQ.

The price for the MXLOCK is not too high, but it was too low last time (we where just lucky).

Good thing I ordered 20 the last time.

[7bit]

And DECK, afaik.



Uhm. WAT? 2013? Lol.



So you ordered directly from Cherry? I thought they had 100k MOQ.



Good thing I ordered 20 the last time.

You can try to get these from a different supplier. We can wait with this until early 2013 and then the switches which where available become available again in late 2013. That's the way things are.
Whatever we order, they will deliver as soon as they can, so I can ship out all available or soon avoilable switches way before early 2013.

[7bit]

Thanks for the answer; I learn something new every day.

Unfortunately it might be irrelevant; no Clears until next year.

You can order the clears without pins and then swap with switches which are available with pins.

Also, maybe we find another source for the unavailable switches which has them in stock.

The only problem is that there will be no browns and reds.

[OrangeJewce]

If you really need MX Red switches that are PCB Mount, It's been stated that Kinesis sells them in packs. Just contact them personally.

@merijin,
      As for the ErgoDox, Dorkvader will be offering a soldering service, which would lead one to believe the switches will be plate mounted. Also you can look at Page 43 of the ErgoDox thread, and the prototype PCBs do not have the additional holes necessary for PCB mounting. Dox can of course confirm this, but everything to this point has led me to believe that the ErgoDox will be Plate mounted only. Hope that helps!

Cheers,

[OrangeJewce]

7bit,

      What is the ETA on switches ordered that are currently in stock? I am thinking about picking up 84 Greens.

Cheers,

[Zifle]

How about low quantity orders? I was considering ordering a few (~5) of a couple of switches, just to try them out.
Also, are addresses, paypal etc. saved from R4?

[Djuzuh]

you can order low quantity .

[jcrouse]

Please submit your order to user CherryMX !

Order-format (to be pm'ed to CherryMX):
MXCLEAR 100
MXWHITE 50
you@e-mail.address

I am guessing that by asking for our email address in a PM that these will be invoiced at some later date. Any idea when that will be, approximately?

Thanks,
John

[dorkvader]

If you really need MX Red switches that are PCB Mount, It's been stated that Kinesis sells them in packs. Just contact them personally.

@merijin,
      As for the ErgoDox, Dorkvader will be offering a soldering service, which would lead one to believe the switches will be plate mounted. Also you can look at Page 43 of the ErgoDox thread, and the prototype PCBs do not have the additional holes necessary for PCB mounting. Dox can of course confirm this, but everything to this point has led me to believe that the ErgoDox will be Plate mounted only. Hope that helps!

Cheers,

If you look at the ergoDOX PCB, you'll notice that it does/will have holes for PCB-mount switches. You should be able to order either and be fine. The PCB mount ones will work with the mounting plate on the proposed case design.

Actually, you can see the back of his soldered PCB with the PCB-mount switch stabilizers peeking up through the board.
http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?22780-Interest-Check-Custom-split-ergo-keyboard&p=600266&viewfull=1#post600266

DOX (or someone), please correct me if I've gone crazy and blind again (and am wrong on this)

[OrangeJewce]

If you look at the ergoDOX PCB, you'll notice that it does/will have holes for PCB-mount switches. You should be able to order either and be fine. The PCB mount ones will work with the mounting plate on the proposed case design.

Actually, you can see the back of his soldered PCB with the PCB-mount switch stabilizers peeking up through the board.
http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?22780-Interest-Check-Custom-split-ergo-keyboard&p=600266&viewfull=1#post600266

DOX (or someone), please correct me if I've gone crazy and blind again (and am wrong on this)

Dorkvader,

     Aha! I seriously thought that was solder the first time I looked at the PCB. There are two holes that would indicate PCB mounted switches will work OK. I guess that explains why people were excited they could order LED MX Red switches from Kinesis. Hmm, that means I might only need assembly on one board, unless the plate will interfere.

Cheers,

[jcrouse]

OK all, explain to the noob, me, why you would use a lock switch? Would it ber for cap, scroll and num locks?

Thanks,
John

[jdcarpe]

For awesome shift lock!

[dorkvader]

OK all, explain to the noob, me, why you would use a lock switch? Would it ber for cap, scroll and num locks?

Thanks,
John

The switch has a different action, where you hit it once to depress (and activate it) and again to release. I've always wanted one for a function lock to bring up a second layer: most likely on a phantom converting the right side to a numpad instead of arrow/media/etc keys.

[OrangeJewce]

The switch has a different action, where you hit it once to depress (and activate it) and again to release. I've always wanted one for a function lock to bring up a second layer: most likely on a phantom converting the right side to a numpad instead of arrow/media/etc keys.

Thinking of the ErgoDox, it would be useful for switching between custom layers (when we get that far).

Cheers,

[jcrouse]

The switch has a different action, where you hit it once to depress (and activate it) and again to release. I've always wanted one for a function lock to bring up a second layer: most likely on a phantom converting the right side to a numpad instead of arrow/media/etc keys.

So, you wouldn't use these for a cap, num or scroll lock on a regular kbd? I am guessing the two position is built into the chip on the kbd? Will any of these be needed for a "shifted" function on the DIY Race kits iMav is doing the group buy for?

[dorkvader]

I wouldn't mind using it for caps/num/scroll (well for numlock. I never use capslock, and Scroll lock gets little use), but I do believe the way the switch operates, you'll need to edit the firmware. You'll have to ask someone that owns one, though.

[jdcarpe]

From what I can gather, the locking switch would not replace keyswitches that, when pressed, activate a "lock" function, such as Caps Lock, Scroll Lock, or Num Lock. The lock switch would rather replace a normal momentary closed switch, in order to keep the switch closed after it is pressed, and activate that keypress until it is pressed again to open the switch. For instance, if you replaced your left shift keyswitch with a lock switch, once you activate the left "shift lock," YOU WOULD GET CHARACTERS LIKE THIS INCLUDING THE NUMBER ROW< ETC>< !@#$%^&*()_+> WHEN YOU PRESS THE LEFT SHIFT AGAIN TO DEACTIVATE IT< you would cancel the lock. You could theoretically replace any modifier switch with a lock switch, but I don't know how often you would need to keep a modifier, e.g. Ctrl, Alt, Win, Menu, held down like that. Maybe like dorkvader said, for a Fn-lock.