Author Topic: [Shipping] Stainless Steel Poker Plate (Read 121446 times)

The_Beast · « **Reply #150 on:** Thu, 11 October 2012, 11:27:38 »

Quote from: WhiteFireDragon on Thu, 11 October 2012, 11:22:15

So the guy is ok with cutting 2 different plates without counting it as 2 separate orders? If that's the case, can we also sneak in a plate design for PURE? If so, I'll see if I can make the DXF file for PURE layout.

And I'm guessing it won't be a problem to switch from cherry stabilizers to costar stabilizers?

I'd rather run another GB for any misc plates that need to be made. I'm already planning a GB for the GH60 plates, am about to pm lister about Phantom plates and am going to do another IC for other layouts people want. After all that, I'll be running a "mix bag" plate GB will all those listed above.

Give me some time and let me finish this GB before starting another one. I'm sure there are other people who want a pure plate ^___^

Cindori · « **Reply #151 on:** Fri, 12 October 2012, 15:14:01 »

Sure is!

The_Beast · « **Reply #152 on:** Mon, 15 October 2012, 13:48:17 »

Alright guys, orders came rolling in and now it's seemed to stop. So I might just start invoicing earlier to give to guys more time to pay. Also, there are 2 plate designs to pick from now and if you would like to change your order, PM me or fill out the change order form I pm'ed a week ago Just a reminder, I will not be extending the order time frame and I will not be accepting late payment whatsoever (no excuses).

Also, I had a prototype plate made and it should be here soon ^____^

Acanthophis · « **Reply #153 on:** Mon, 15 October 2012, 16:44:26 »

Don't forget to tease us with a photo of that prototype!

The_Beast · « **Reply #154 on:** Mon, 15 October 2012, 16:47:26 »

Quote from: DeathAdder on Mon, 15 October 2012, 16:44:26

Don't forget to tease us with a photo of that prototype!

Potato pics will have to do ^___^

I emailed him at 12:30pm and the plate was cut by 2:30pm, but that was because I had to send him payment info while in a class ^__^

Glissant · « **Reply #155 on:** Thu, 18 October 2012, 01:56:54 »

Quote from: The_Beast on Mon, 15 October 2012, 13:48:17

Just a reminder, I will not be extending the order time frame and I will not be accepting late payment whatsoever (no excuses).

Oh snap serious pony is serious :O

The_Beast · « **Reply #156 on:** Thu, 18 October 2012, 02:06:45 »

Quote from: Glissant on Thu, 18 October 2012, 01:56:54

Quote from: The_Beast on Mon, 15 October 2012, 13:48:17
Just a reminder, I will not be extending the order time frame and I will not be accepting late payment whatsoever (no excuses).
Oh snap serious pony is serious :O

I need to send payment by Nov 1st or I may not be able to pick them up during my thanksgiving vacation. If I start accepting late payments, I'll have to have them shipped to me and shipping 25 lbs of stainless steel will just add to the overall cost for no real reason. Plus I haven't gotten any new orders since the 11th so why keep it open? ^___^

But good news is that the prototype plate will be in the mail today and I should have it by the weekend. At first I wasn't going to do a prototype but since this is the first time I've used this guy (The company I work for has used him, but this is the first time I've personally used him), it wouldn't hurt.

alixinhzai · « **Reply #157 on:** Thu, 18 October 2012, 08:17:43 »

I will order someone after my honneymoon

Hope next round we can cut plate removable switch for filco

nebo · « **Reply #158 on:** Thu, 18 October 2012, 10:51:07 »

Would it be too much trouble to cancel my order? Ended up buying a case that has a plate with it.

The_Beast · « **Reply #159 on:** Thu, 18 October 2012, 11:01:11 »

Quote from: nebo on Thu, 18 October 2012, 10:51:07

Would it be too much trouble to cancel my order? Ended up buying a case that has a plate with it.

Nope, just send me a PM

The_Beast · « **Reply #160 on:** Thu, 18 October 2012, 13:35:21 »

One week left, however I may start invoicing soon to give you more time to pay since I will not be accepting late payments

Sinzz · « **Reply #161 on:** Thu, 18 October 2012, 17:28:19 »

Interested but I've never done this before, would I have to take apart the switches for the poker (planning on getting one so I don't know the layout too well yet) to put this in? just wondering if I'll have to solder stuff because I don't trust my solder skills yet to do something like this just yet.

The_Beast · « **Reply #162 on:** Fri, 19 October 2012, 12:02:45 »

^^ yes you have to desolder all the switches first before installing the plate

Potato pic, DEAL WITH IT

Glissant · « **Reply #163 on:** Fri, 19 October 2012, 12:08:21 »

alaricljs · « **Reply #164 on:** Fri, 19 October 2012, 12:23:15 »

How the switch tool?

danielucf · « **Reply #165 on:** Fri, 19 October 2012, 12:28:08 »

Looks nice, very interested when you do a Pure plate, or the GH60 when that becomes available. Also when will the switch tool be for sale?

The_Beast · « **Reply #166 on:** Fri, 19 October 2012, 12:41:02 »

Quote from: alaricljs on Fri, 19 October 2012, 12:23:15

How the switch tool?

It's 1/16" thick material so it's too thick to fit in the slots of the switch. A bit of sanding or a minute on the mill should fix that. But other than that it fits just fine.

Quote from: danielucf on Fri, 19 October 2012, 12:28:08

Looks nice, very interested when you do a Pure plate, or the GH60 when that becomes available. Also when will the switch tool be for sale?

Pure plates should run with the mix bag/GH60 plate buy (if someone sends me a dwg or the GH60 has a pure layout {which I think it does}). I'm going to be ordering some of the cherry switch tools at the same time as these plates and should be on sale shortly after that.

TheQsanity · « **Reply #167 on:** Fri, 19 October 2012, 13:49:27 »

Quote from: The_Beast on Fri, 19 October 2012, 12:02:45

^^ yes you have to desolder all the switches first before installing the plate

Potato pic, DEAL WITH IT
Show Image

Bag of switches: top left?

Where were those from?

Lethal Squirrel · « **Reply #168 on:** Fri, 19 October 2012, 13:51:50 »

Awesome to see somebody doing this, especially since it was probably inspired from my plate mounted poker!

(I could be wrong of course)

I'm down for one!

danielucf · « **Reply #169 on:** Fri, 19 October 2012, 13:58:31 »

I think the GH60 will use 1.5x size ctrl/shift and 1x size win so it is a little different from the Pure layout.

modulor · « **Reply #170 on:** Fri, 19 October 2012, 14:11:19 »

Quote from: The_Beast on Fri, 19 October 2012, 12:41:02

Pure plates should run with the mix bag/GH60 plate buy (if someone sends me a dwg or the GH60 has a pure layout {which I think it does}). I'm going to be ordering some of the cherry switch tools at the same time as these plates and should be on sale shortly after that.

Looks excellent! If it's possible to add a set of the switch tools to our plate orders, I'd be game.

Halverson · « **Reply #171 on:** Fri, 19 October 2012, 14:30:16 »

Quote from: modulor on Fri, 19 October 2012, 14:11:19

Looks excellent! If it's possible to add a set of the switch tools to our plate orders, I'd be game.

Second this!

MMB · « **Reply #172 on:** Fri, 19 October 2012, 14:48:55 »

WhiteFireDragon · « **Reply #173 on:** Fri, 19 October 2012, 14:57:01 »

Best, how much did each of those prototypes cost for 1 piece?

Sifo · « **Reply #174 on:** Fri, 19 October 2012, 17:37:04 »

I wantttttttttttt the PHANSI!!!

SmallFry · « **Reply #175 on:** Fri, 19 October 2012, 17:39:49 »

Oooh looks PHANSI (get it? Its punny!)

The_Beast · « **Reply #176 on:** Fri, 19 October 2012, 19:52:07 »

Update in 1/2 hour, all I've had to eat all day were 2 toaster strudels

Quote from: TheQsanity on Fri, 19 October 2012, 13:49:27

Bag of switches: top left?

Where were those from?

Yes, from ekw808 recent GB for clears

Quote from: danielucf on Fri, 19 October 2012, 13:58:31

I think the GH60 will use 1.5x size ctrl/shift and 1x size win so it is a little different from the Pure layout.

Not sure, I thought there was a pure style layout.

Quote from: modulor on Fri, 19 October 2012, 14:11:19

Quote from: The_Beast on Fri, 19 October 2012, 12:41:02

Pure plates should run with the mix bag/GH60 plate buy (if someone sends me a dwg or the GH60 has a pure layout {which I think it does}). I'm going to be ordering some of the cherry switch tools at the same time as these plates and should be on sale shortly after that.

Looks excellent! If it's possible to add a set of the switch tools to our plate orders, I'd be game.

I'll be buying some at the same time as this GB and selling them.

MMB cheer up little buddy

Quote from: WhiteFireDragon on Fri, 19 October 2012, 14:57:01

Best, how much did each of those prototypes cost for 1 piece?

$25 + shipping to me

The_Beast · « **Reply #177 on:** Fri, 19 October 2012, 20:35:38 »

Bottom of the plate (I have the COSTAR STABILIZER on wrong)

Top of the plate:

Little slide show:

Top finish (not the best):

Bottom finish:

Cherry tool:

Issues:
1) When he cut them he did them upside down so that when he "timesaved" (basically running through a surface sander) the plate he gave the better finish to the bottom of the plate
2) Burn outs (see 3rd picture)
3) Burrs

Solutions:
1) Have him "timesave" both sides so they both have the bottom finish or indicate what side is up
2) See 1
3) I could break them off with my fingers except the ones in the poker suit cutouts. I had to use a small file

esoomenona · « **Reply #178 on:** Fri, 19 October 2012, 20:40:20 »

The_Beast · « **Reply #179 on:** Fri, 19 October 2012, 20:41:11 »

Pm me with any order changes

esoomenona · « **Reply #180 on:** Fri, 19 October 2012, 20:44:13 »

thomas318 · « **Reply #181 on:** Fri, 19 October 2012, 22:02:37 »

That "cherry Tools" is interesting,

Will you make them into production?

The_Beast · « **Reply #182 on:** Fri, 19 October 2012, 22:04:41 »

Quote from: thomas318 on Fri, 19 October 2012, 22:02:37

That "cherry Tools" is interesting,
Will you make them into production?

Yup ^___^ check here or I'll put up a fs thread later

WhiteFireDragon · « **Reply #183 on:** Fri, 19 October 2012, 22:17:50 »

Are those burn marks normal for laser cutting? Can they be wiped off or is do you need to sand it off? And it looks like there is some kind of defect with that spade in the 2nd pic.

Sifo · « **Reply #184 on:** Fri, 19 October 2012, 22:23:01 »

Will be getting those Cherry tools too

throw that onto my order of the PHANSI plate.

The_Beast · « **Reply #185 on:** Fri, 19 October 2012, 22:26:58 »

Chill your ****, you'll get one soon enough ^^^

Quote from: WhiteFireDragon on Fri, 19 October 2012, 22:17:50

Are those burn marks normal for laser cutting? Can they be wiped off or is do you need to sand it off? And it looks like there is some kind of defect with that spade in the 2nd pic.

Yes. You can sand them off or just have that be the bottom of the plate

alaricljs · « **Reply #186 on:** Fri, 19 October 2012, 22:27:14 »

The burn marks are standard fare with a laser. The stuff that looks like it shouldn't be there is just chaff that didn't completely get removed, this is most prevalent in tight spaces. A lot of times it just takes a little wiggling with your finger or shove on it with a micro screwdriver.

The_Beast · « **Reply #187 on:** Fri, 19 October 2012, 22:27:43 »

Quote from: alaricljs on Fri, 19 October 2012, 22:27:14

The burn marks are standard fare with a laser. The stuff that looks like it shouldn't be there is just chaff that didn't completely get removed, this is most prevalent in tight spaces. A lot of times it just takes a little wiggling with your finger or shove on it with a micro screwdriver.

This 100%

WhiteFireDragon · « **Reply #188 on:** Fri, 19 October 2012, 22:36:17 »

So no tolerance issues at the edges of the cut out holes or the 0.0625" thickness? Cherry specified 0.060", but it looks like the switches still mount on fine, unless it's because the bottom of the plate was already sanded down to 0.060". Maybe mount the whole stabilizer setup to confirm the fit.

demik · « **Reply #189 on:** Fri, 19 October 2012, 22:42:48 »

can i get that switch tool sep?

i havent read any of the pages here.

The_Beast · « **Reply #190 on:** Fri, 19 October 2012, 22:48:10 »

Quote from: WhiteFireDragon on Fri, 19 October 2012, 22:36:17

So no tolerance issues at the edges of the cut out holes or the 0.0625" thickness? Costar specified 0.060", but it looks like the switches still mount on fine, unless it's because the bottom of the plate was already sanded down to 0.060". Maybe mount the whole stabilizer setup to confirm the fit.

The plate works great, switches fit and so do costar stabs. I haven't tried it with cherry stabs yet but it should work

Quote from: demik on Fri, 19 October 2012, 22:42:48

can i get that switch tool sep?

i havent read any of the pages here.

READ THEM ALL

(yes you should be able too since I said so)

mehkat1974 · « **Reply #191 on:** Sat, 20 October 2012, 02:18:29 »

ordered, poker cut outs
Thanks!
don't even know what I'm doing and it looks like a prick to install but great project

Caaaarrrt · « **Reply #192 on:** Sat, 20 October 2012, 03:24:14 »

I'd be keen for that switch tool too

WhiteFireDragon · « **Reply #193 on:** Sat, 20 October 2012, 04:10:58 »

Here you go:

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=36677.0

The_Beast · « **Reply #194 on:** Sun, 21 October 2012, 00:27:03 »

Alright, I'm super glad I did a prototype.

Problems:
1. Cherry spacebar stabilizers didn't fit
2. Cherry stabilizers are tight
3. Costar stabilizers fit in the slots but don't work. The legs of the black part of the stabilizing system are deflecting inward not allowing the white insert to freely move.
4. Cannot open switch tops on stabilized keys (except the spacebar)

Solutions
1. alixinhzai said to flip the cherry style mount on the spacebar location when he passed me the design, I forgot, it's upside down. It will be fixed before sending to the cutter
2. I'm going to be adding a few thousandths on the left and right of the cherry stabilizer cutout
3. Nothing, it's due to plate thickness. You'll have to sand need the costar stabilizer cutouts if you want them to work. Sanding around the mounts should stop the deflection.
4. Nothing, I don't feel comfortable taking away anymore support from the switches

Other than that, it's a nice plate. Switches are nice and tight, it makes the poker feel much more solid and adds ~1/3lbs to the total weight.

**waits for alaricljs to comment ^___^

Acanthophis · « **Reply #195 on:** Sun, 21 October 2012, 05:51:44 »

So we won't be able to open switches for Backspace, left/right shift and Enter, unless we desolder? :/

alaricljs · « **Reply #196 on:** Sun, 21 October 2012, 09:24:16 »

For those of you that want to have all your switches openable with the plate, get yourself a file. Look at the image of the plate, there's really not much material that would need removing. There's always the chance that you won't keep Cherry plate mount stab compatibility doing this.

Beast, you might ping Litster he's the closest up the food chain still posting that dealt with Phantom proto's.

And here's a picture

Acanthophis · « **Reply #197 on:** Sun, 21 October 2012, 10:11:31 »

So, if I understand this right, you just have to shave off a little where I marked it red?

The space bar switch has the least support, right? (judging from the plate design)
Do you, Beast, feel a difference between space bar switch and any other switch when pressed? If not, why not redesign the plate?

alaricljs · « **Reply #198 on:** Sun, 21 October 2012, 10:45:50 »

Well, the spot that would need shaving for the best results are the vertical lines to the left and right of the switch. Trim them so that you are widening the switch hole. The only support the switch gets at this point is from the top and bottom edges of the plate hole. I MIGHT be able to figure out how to do this with a pic...

Loligagger · « **Reply #199 on:** Sun, 21 October 2012, 16:03:21 »

How much material would sanding both sides of the finished plate remove? Not enough to fit costar stabilizers without further sanding right?

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Author Topic: [Shipping] Stainless Steel Poker Plate (Read 121446 times)