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Re: New 60% board... whatever it is called.
« Reply #60 on: Wed, 26 December 2012, 11:13:46 »
I'd love a 60 key fully programmable ANSI layout board. I hope the GH60 will fulfill that wish. Otherwise, maybe somebody would be awesome enough to put together a Mini-Phantom project?

60-key layout meaning ANSI with 1.50 mods? That's the exact layout I had in mind when I started the GH60 project. komar was able to include many other layout options, but that was my original goal, same as yours. :D

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Re: New 60% board... whatever it is called.
« Reply #61 on: Wed, 26 December 2012, 11:16:16 »
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Re: New 60% board... whatever it is called.
« Reply #62 on: Wed, 26 December 2012, 11:30:42 »
I am still debating a GH60. I mean, a friend is gonna program a few Holtek controllers for his own Pure, so I could just piggy back and have a few done for me. If I get a GH60, It would be made in the 62key layout with just minor changes to the keymapping. Spending 30 cents apiece and treat him to coffee is preferable to spending 100 bucks ;o

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Re: New 60% board... whatever it is called.
« Reply #63 on: Tue, 22 January 2013, 16:45:37 »
Some updates on various 60%:
But ya. I am actually hearing rumor of 2 other 60% boards. I heard a rumor about a Chinese 60%.

Asked the guy who told me about the Chinese board. Leopold is it.
The other rumored board I just saw a picture of. The exterior looks nice with the new case.

To recap on the coming 60% boards:
Poker 2
Poker Pro
Poker "classic" - Unclear whether or not this will be programmable like Poker 2, but it will have the original Poker layout.
Poker "DIY" - Programmable + different layouts supported.

Leopold FC660M
Rumored 60%
Filco 60%
« Last Edit: Wed, 23 January 2013, 02:01:18 by laffindude »

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« Reply #64 on: Tue, 22 January 2013, 19:54:23 »
Wow so many pokers.. Now the big question is.. When can we expect these pokers?
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Re: New 60% board... whatever it is called.
« Reply #65 on: Wed, 23 January 2013, 01:38:45 »
Production sample should be really soon for Poker 2. Other ones have to wait.

I heard a rumor a little while ago. I just got a phone call confirming it. Filco will have a 60% board within ~1-2 month.
Rumored is sampling right now, but friend couldn't get me one because there were too few of them to go around.
Edit edit: ^Just saw another picture of that in higher resolution (I was told to check my email, and I didn't do that first ;)). Not sure if I can post it but it does look really nice with that finish on it ;)
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« Reply #66 on: Wed, 23 January 2013, 01:59:55 »
D: So many to choose from... Should I wait, or should I jump the gun with Poker 2... :eek:
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Re: New 60% board... whatever it is called.
« Reply #67 on: Wed, 23 January 2013, 02:11:34 »
@Sinzz: Do you mind the odd arrow cluster + the reduced size modifiers? Although I don't mind it as much as some people in this thread, it really is an odd physical layout. You'll have limited option in keycaps, if you want full matching sets. If you aren't in a hurry (why would you be? ;)), I'd say wait until most of the boards are out so you can pick the ones with the right features for you.

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Re: New 60% board... whatever it is called.
« Reply #68 on: Wed, 23 January 2013, 02:18:07 »
I love the arrow clusters on a 60%! But you're right, It will be extremely tough finding a matching keycap set for it... Not a big fan of the FC660M so I guess I'll wait to hear about the Filco and the other rumored and see if I'll like the idea or design. I do hope to get one by Q1 this year though, since I need to find a quieter keyboard (Blacks or Reds) for when I am typing up a storm and my girlfriend is over. She can't stand my MX Blues. :))
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Re: New 60% board... whatever it is called.
« Reply #69 on: Wed, 23 January 2013, 02:37:57 »
The thing about the Filco is, you don't know when Keyboardco will get them. Then if you want it cheaply, you'll have to wait for them to ship it to Amazon warehouse. You definitely won't get it in Q1 unless you buy it overseas.

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Re: New 60% board... whatever it is called.
« Reply #70 on: Wed, 23 January 2013, 17:10:56 »
Now onto the board itself. It has same mounting holes as a Pure. I am sure some of you will jizz your pants at the next statement... It is a plate mount. It doesn't feel flimsy and light like plastic cased Poker and Pure. It's a solid feeling board. I don't get to play with this for an extended time, so I won't mount it in my aluminum Pure case (which is dampened and weighted down. It will be epic when I buy a production board.).


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Re: New 60% board... whatever it is called. +Rumors and speculations.
« Reply #71 on: Thu, 24 January 2013, 06:51:14 »
Well, you can always bug beast to do a plate for Race.

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Re: New 60% board... whatever it is called. +Rumors and speculations.
« Reply #72 on: Thu, 24 January 2013, 11:34:24 »
Need German ISO Layout ! :)
Otaku ISO is also ok. ;)

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« Reply #73 on: Thu, 24 January 2013, 12:12:50 »
Need German ISO Layout ! :)
Otaku ISO is also ok. ;)

I'm with you on that :D

well actually I could write this in any thread here ... especially group buys .... I want pbt sets with "" "" etc.  ;)

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Re: New 60% board... whatever it is called. +Rumors and speculations.
« Reply #74 on: Thu, 24 January 2013, 12:16:58 »
So many goodies... so little money...  :p
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« Reply #75 on: Thu, 24 January 2013, 12:30:39 »
If Poker 2 is programmable, what make Poker DIY different?
In any case, a programmable poker, where you can rearrange the Fn layer would be SWEET.
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« Reply #76 on: Thu, 24 January 2013, 12:34:39 »
Laffindude, just saw your edit edit, and i think you should definitely post it! :D
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Re: New 60% board... whatever it is called. +Rumors and speculations.
« Reply #77 on: Thu, 24 January 2013, 17:55:27 »
Man! Can't wait. I wonder if it will be available with front printed caps.

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Re: New 60% board... whatever it is called. +Rumors and speculations.
« Reply #78 on: Thu, 24 January 2013, 18:36:31 »
Laffindude, just saw your edit edit, and i think you should definitely post it! :D

Agreed! You'd be doing the community a service.  :))
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Re: New 60% board... whatever it is called. +Rumors and speculations.
« Reply #79 on: Thu, 24 January 2013, 20:11:43 »
If Poker 2 is programmable, what make Poker DIY different?
In any case, a programmable poker, where you can rearrange the Fn layer would be SWEET.
I think the DIY part means you can assemble it yourself in the physical layout you want it in. Though I am not sure what physical layouts are available.

Laffindude, just saw your edit edit, and i think you should definitely post it! :D

Agreed! You'd be doing the community a service.  :))
I'll ask my source to see if it is ok to talk about it yet.

Edit: ^ No can do right now. They're working out some channel issues. To be perfectly honest, the board is nothing special except for the pretty case.
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Re: New 60% board... whatever it is called. +Rumors and speculations.
« Reply #80 on: Fri, 25 January 2013, 00:12:54 »
Well, you can always bug beast to do a plate for Race.

Haha yeah.
But he said he needs a drawing in autocad, and I have 0 idea how to do that :(

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« Reply #81 on: Sat, 26 January 2013, 02:06:29 »
No need for me to leak anything I guess ;)


Here are some more pictures: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jewu8210/sets/72157632574538186/with/8400932182/
Datasheets: https://docs.google.com/folder/d/0B7TuRf3KQe7GNTE0RmQ2SDEzeEU/edit

from: http://kbtalking.cool3c.com/article/65087
The OP is 1 of 2 engineers that designed the board. He also helped designing the Poker and Pure, though he partnered with another ex Vortex engineer to start TEX.
Notice the nice CNC milled aluminum upper case. It is in brushed finish and anodized.


If you read the datasheet, don't get excited at the memory thing. It is just there to save the settings you customized (FN + QWERT).
Also, I believe the wider than needed space around the miniUSB is for 90 cable. I saw the cable hiding in a corner in another picture that isn't posted.
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« Reply #82 on: Sat, 26 January 2013, 02:11:59 »
I guess the guy didn't think Vor was nice enough to partner with him... :))

It's a really nice keyboard, and uses MOSTLY normal layout, whereas the poker 2 has a short backspace and Del in place of \. Probably will be going more for the poker 2 though since I'm not much of a fan of the wide bezel (love the fact that it's aluminum though). Thanks for all these nice updates laffindude!
« Last Edit: Sat, 26 January 2013, 02:19:10 by Sinzz »
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« Reply #83 on: Sat, 26 January 2013, 03:09:12 »
;) @ TEX. That was my first thought when I saw the name. The even more interesting part is look at TEX and look at Vortex's logo.

There are a few things I don't understand on the FN layout. Like why they put Home/End on IK and PgUp/Dn on OL instead fo UJ and IK respectively. Not understanding why ESC on the graves key. Mute is on Capslock instead of back slash right next to the Vol up/dn.

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Re: New 60% board... whatever it is called. +Rumors and speculations.
« Reply #84 on: Sat, 26 January 2013, 10:42:22 »
Pretty sexy design, just not wild about the key size and layout on the right side, but that's a personal choice.

I'm loving my Pure and I think I've found the ideal layout for me. I just wish I could program it so I could make some small adjustments. Hopefully the GH 60 will allow me to do just that.

Thanks for posting all the information on the new keyboard laffindude!
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« Reply #85 on: Sat, 26 January 2013, 11:30:02 »
Argh, not a single photo on flicker shows the full layout! Ok, I looked at the docs on the datasheet link now.
Hey, it's very nice, for sure beats both the Poker and the Pure in layout IMO, I have the Poker and I have to resort to the Fn key way too often...
with the TEX I'll only have to do that for PgUp/PgDown, and the occasional home/end (which I don't use often).

EDIT: Attaching the US layout here for easy reference.
« Last Edit: Sat, 26 January 2013, 12:13:06 by sordna »
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« Reply #86 on: Sat, 26 January 2013, 12:05:14 »
The aluminum case is nice but it's got the same dinky right shift key that is the one consistent sore spot on my Races. And the dedicated arrow keys would seem to make the left side Fn key mostly redundant.

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New 60% board... whatever it is called. +Rumors and speculations.
« Reply #87 on: Sat, 26 January 2013, 14:12:08 »
Re: TEX 60%

4.5-unit spacebar and 1x hell on the bottom row and right side? No thanks. :)

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« Reply #88 on: Sat, 26 January 2013, 14:16:21 »
Interesting that many people seem to dislike the small right-hand shift and modifiers-- do people actually use those? I hardly ever do, and could probably adjust to not having them at all very easily...
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« Reply #89 on: Sat, 26 January 2013, 14:56:43 »
The thing that bothers me the most is the stagger is non standard on the Z row. Everything is shifted .25 units to the left to allow the extra keys to fit.
I do quite like the TEX case though, it has sort of an oldschool flavor to it.