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Offline pitashen

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Whatever happened to the center stemed step caps lock
« on: Tue, 20 November 2012, 18:43:22 »
A couple of group buys were trying to make it heppen. I didn't follow the outcome of it, but I was saying that it would be quite likely not working properly and many objected my view.
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Re: Whatever happened to the center stemed step caps lock
« Reply #1 on: Tue, 20 November 2012, 18:44:34 »
They are available for sale at TechKeys.us
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Re: Whatever happened to the center stemed step caps lock
« Reply #2 on: Tue, 20 November 2012, 18:46:01 »
works perfectly
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Re: Whatever happened to the center stemed step caps lock
« Reply #3 on: Tue, 20 November 2012, 18:46:08 »
I'M USING ONE RIGHT NOW!
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Re: Whatever happened to the center stemed step caps lock
« Reply #4 on: Tue, 20 November 2012, 18:47:35 »
Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 20 November 2012, 18:44:34
They are available for sale at TechKeys.us

I have just installed some from there, and they work fine.

Low-profile, so they are lower than my OEM keys, but that just means they are extra-hard to hit by mistake!

I bought pure white on black; he also has black on off-white.

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Re: Whatever happened to the center stemed step caps lock
« Reply #5 on: Tue, 20 November 2012, 18:48:40 »
I have one as well.
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Re: Whatever happened to the center stemed step caps lock
« Reply #6 on: Tue, 20 November 2012, 18:49:31 »
I hear they fit better (more flush) if you desolder the switch and drill a small hole in the switch's bottom housing where the dimple is. Then you install the cap using a toothpick through the hole you drilled to keep the stem in place.
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Re: Whatever happened to the center stemed step caps lock
« Reply #7 on: Tue, 20 November 2012, 18:52:04 »
I find myself pushing the switch down (when I actually do use caps, which is hardly ever) in the center anyway, right on the right edge of the top. Probably muscle memory. I don't see it being a problem for me. It does help with the accidental hitting of it though.
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Re: Whatever happened to the center stemed step caps lock
« Reply #8 on: Tue, 20 November 2012, 18:54:23 »
Would it allow the key to be fully pressed? or would the part of the cap hit the switch casing first?
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Re: Whatever happened to the center stemed step caps lock
« Reply #9 on: Tue, 20 November 2012, 18:56:41 »
Quote from: pitashen on Tue, 20 November 2012, 18:54:23
Would it allow the key to be fully pressed? or would the part of the cap hit the switch casing first?
You can press it down just fine. Nothing hits anything.
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Re: Whatever happened to the center stemed step caps lock
« Reply #10 on: Tue, 20 November 2012, 18:57:22 »
It almost certainly will make it to the actuation point without bumping the switch housing, AFAICT. Bottoming out may be a different story.
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Re: Whatever happened to the center stemed step caps lock
« Reply #11 on: Tue, 20 November 2012, 18:58:30 »
Good to know, I might just order one for fun. Too bad that using caps-lock as control key isn't very popular. Really looking forward to one with "control" legend.
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Re: Whatever happened to the center stemed step caps lock
« Reply #12 on: Tue, 20 November 2012, 18:59:09 »
Quote from: pitashen on Tue, 20 November 2012, 18:58:30
Good to know, I might just order one for fun. Too bad that using caps-lock as control key isn't very popular. Really looking forward to one with "control" legend.
Maybe suggest it to 13oilermaker in his sub?
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Re: Whatever happened to the center stemed step caps lock
« Reply #13 on: Tue, 20 November 2012, 19:02:27 »
Quote from: pitashen on Tue, 20 November 2012, 18:58:30
Good to know, I might just order one for fun. Too bad that using caps-lock as control key isn't very popular. Really looking forward to one with "control" legend.

Weyman at WASD told me that if I supply him with a blank keycap he can laser with whatever will fit.

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Re: Whatever happened to the center stemed step caps lock
« Reply #14 on: Tue, 20 November 2012, 19:05:50 »
Quote from: samwisekoi on Tue, 20 November 2012, 19:02:27

Weyman at WASD told me that if I supply him with a blank keycap he can laser with whatever will fit.

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Stuff from WASD won't do. I am looking for the key profile close to the Cherry sets. So it would pretty much have to come from SP.
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Re: Whatever happened to the center stemed step caps lock
« Reply #15 on: Tue, 20 November 2012, 19:10:41 »
Quote from: pitashen on Tue, 20 November 2012, 19:05:50
Quote from: samwisekoi on Tue, 20 November 2012, 19:02:27

Weyman at WASD told me that if I supply him with a blank keycap he can laser with whatever will fit.

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Stuff from WASD won't do. I am looking for the key profile close to the Cherry sets. So it would pretty much have to come from SP.

Yes, exactly.  WASD can laser a PBT key from SP with a custom legend.
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Re: Whatever happened to the center stemed step caps lock
« Reply #16 on: Tue, 20 November 2012, 19:14:36 »
Quote from: samwisekoi on Tue, 20 November 2012, 19:10:41


Yes, exactly.  WASD can laser a PBT key from SP with a custom legend.


lololol nice, thanks for the info.
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Re: Whatever happened to the center stemed step caps lock
« Reply #17 on: Tue, 20 November 2012, 19:39:34 »
Because it is relevant here...

Can be purchased at http://www.techkeys.us/custom-keys.php
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Re: Whatever happened to the center stemed step caps lock
« Reply #18 on: Tue, 20 November 2012, 21:24:28 »
The legend bothers me more than the profile of the key. I think they need to be thicker to more closely match the surrounding keys.
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Re: Whatever happened to the center stemed step caps lock
« Reply #19 on: Tue, 20 November 2012, 21:56:52 »
Legend can't be thicker unfortunately.  I was told by Melissa that the cutter we used was the thickest one possible given the tight detail in for example the lower case a.

A thicker legend might be possible with a custom cutter, but that is extra expense and then you'd want to recut allthe moogle legends at that width.  And you might still want to go thicker with yet another custom cutter.
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Re: Whatever happened to the center stemed step caps lock
« Reply #20 on: Tue, 20 November 2012, 22:08:02 »
Quote from: hashbaz on Tue, 20 November 2012, 21:56:52
Legend can't be thicker unfortunately.  I was told by Melissa that the cutter we used was the thickest one possible given the tight detail in for example the lower case a.

A thicker legend might be possible with a custom cutter, but that is extra expense and then you'd want to recut allthe moogle legends at that width.  And you might still want to go thicker with yet another custom cutter.

Agree. The thickness of the font is actually pretty darn close. Can't really complain much for the price we paid for the moogle kits.
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Re: Re: Whatever happened to the center stemed step caps lock
« Reply #21 on: Tue, 20 November 2012, 22:10:24 »
Quote from: i3oilermaker on Tue, 20 November 2012, 19:39:34
Because it is relevant here...

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Re: Whatever happened to the center stemed step caps lock
« Reply #22 on: Tue, 20 November 2012, 22:12:51 »
Yes, huge props to boiler for making the center stemmed stepped caps lock happen. :thumb:
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Re: Whatever happened to the center stemed step caps lock
« Reply #23 on: Tue, 20 November 2012, 22:19:45 »
Agreed! Nice guy too! Very tall.
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Re: Whatever happened to the center stemed step caps lock
« Reply #24 on: Tue, 20 November 2012, 22:29:42 »
"Very tall", says SmallFry ;)
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Re: Whatever happened to the center stemed step caps lock
« Reply #25 on: Tue, 20 November 2012, 22:38:46 »
Well he is! He towered over me!
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Re: Whatever happened to the center stemed step caps lock
« Reply #26 on: Tue, 20 November 2012, 22:45:34 »
How tall are you, if you don't mind my asking, and if it doesn't drag this conversation too far off topic?
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Re: Whatever happened to the center stemed step caps lock
« Reply #27 on: Tue, 20 November 2012, 23:11:32 »
5'9".
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Re: Whatever happened to the center stemed step caps lock
« Reply #28 on: Tue, 20 November 2012, 23:13:50 »
'bout 6'3" here
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Re: Whatever happened to the center stemed step caps lock
« Reply #29 on: Tue, 20 November 2012, 23:15:24 »
He's going to tower over me too haha.
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Re: Whatever happened to the center stemed step caps lock
« Reply #30 on: Tue, 20 November 2012, 23:58:11 »
Rowdy is just under 6'2".

Only 6 inches difference between you (SmallFry) and i3oilermaker.

Ok, back on topic please :)
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