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List of Tenkeyless & Compact Keyboards
« on: Mon, 31 December 2012, 16:09:14 »
I'm a huge fan of compact and tenkeyless (TKL) keyboards and it's been quite a journey digging through forums and google searches to learn more about them. Figuring that this might be of interest to others, I thought I'd compile a list. I'm bound to have forgotten some, so feel free to correct my oversights and errors.

TenKeyLess
356/456 Family
- 356L
- 356N
- 356CL
- 356CL Dark Grey Edition
- 356N MKII
- 456GT

Archiss
- "I-T Touch" Official Site
   - AS-KB87L (Cherry MX Black)
   - AS-KB87T (Cherry MX Brown)
   - AS-KB87C (Cherry MX Blue)
   - AS-KB87LR (Cherry MX Red)

Armageddon
- Strike Eagle MKI-3
- Black Hornet MKA-3

The Cheat
- Koala
- DKSaver

Cooler Master
- CM Storm QuickFire Rapid

Ducky
- DK9087 Shine 2
- DK9087 G2 Pro
- DK1087
- DK1087XM

Diatec
- Filco Majestouch Tenkeyless
- Filco Majestouch 2 Tenkeyless
- Filco Majestouch Ninja
- Filco Zero

FlashGet
- G600

Genius
- M1

IBM
- Model M Mini aka Space Saver Keyboard (SSK)

ID Factory
- Tenkeyless [link]

Keycool
- Keycool 87

KMAC
- KMAC 1
- KMAC 1.2
- KMAC 2
- KMAC LE
   - Titanium Windows
   - Titanium Winkeyless
   - Silver Windows
   - Silver Winkeyless

Leopold
- FC200R
   - T/AB (Cherry MX Brown)
   - C/AB (Cherry MX Blue)
   - L/AB (Cherry MX Black)
   - R/AB (Cherry MX Red)
   - T/ABN "Otaku" (Cherry MX Brown)
   - C/ABN "Otaku" (Cherry MX Blue)
   - L/ABN "Otaku" (Cherry MX Black)
   - R/ABN "Otaku" (Cherry MX Red)

- FC700R
   - Available in White, Black and Grey
   - Available with Cherry MX Black, Blue, Brown, Clear or Red

LZ Family
- LZ 87/86 (LZ-S, LZ-F)
- LZSE

LBots
- Mechanic

Newmen
- GM-10

Neo
- Zelia

Phantom

PLU
- PLU ML-87

Plumb 96
- Plumb 96

Rapoo
- Rapoo V7

Razer
- Black Widow Tournament

Shogun Bros
- Cross Blade

Team Scorpion
- Team Scorpion Zero.87

Topre
- Realforce 86U
- Realforce 87U
- Realforce 91U
- Realforce CS NEO

Truly Ergonomic (Official Site)
     - Truly Ergonomic 207
     - Truly Ergonomic 209

TypeNow
- Solid

ViewSonic
- V1

Vortex
- KBT Oni

Zalman
- ZM-K500

Compact
Cherry
- G80-5000 ErgoPlus

Deck
- 82 Ice
- TG3 BL82

DS
- Sun88

DSI
- SMK-85

Keycool
- Keycool 84

Keyboard Story (Official Site)
   - KS Mini

KMAC
- KMAC-Mini

Matias
- Laptop Pro
- Mini Quiet Pro
- Mini TactilePro

Noppoo
- Choc Mini

Ortek
- MCK-84

PFU
- Happy Hacking Professional
- Happy Hacking Professional JP
- Happy Hacking Professional HG
- Happy Hacking Professional HG JAPAN
- Happy Hacking Professional 2
- Happy Hacking Professional 2 Type-S
- Happy Hacking Professional  2 JP Type-S

SiiG
- MiniTouch (81 key)

Vortex
- KBC Poker
- KBT Pure
- KBT Race
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Re: List of Tenkeyless
« Reply #1 on: Mon, 31 December 2012, 16:14:16 »
Thanks for this! Also, the Filco Zero is not the only TKL made by Diatec. Various Majestouches are also TKL.
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Re: List of Tenkeyless
« Reply #2 on: Mon, 31 December 2012, 16:17:10 »
Thanks for this! Also, the Filco Zero is not the only TKL made by Diatec. Various Majestouches are also TKL.

Thanks RazorSharpGears, I just found Diatec's site and updated the list.

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Re: List of Tenkeyless
« Reply #3 on: Mon, 31 December 2012, 16:40:38 »
No problem ^_^
And thanks again for doing this, will definitely help me for future reference, as well as the rest of GH!
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Re: List of Tenkeyless
« Reply #4 on: Mon, 31 December 2012, 16:46:43 »
Tenkeyless has a very specific layout in my opinion, so I would not include the G80-5000, Deck/TG3 82, Choc mini, HHKB, Race, Pure, Poker... etc as they are different form factor, different than a 104/105 with the numpad chopped off.

Also missing Archiss (model escapes me), Keycool 87, HPE 87, Noppoo Mid, Leopold FC700, Leopold FC200lite (with Alps type switch), Ducky 1087XM (with Alps type switch), Razer Black Widow Tournament, Typenow Solid... I am sure there is more I can't think of at the moment.
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Re: List of Tenkeyless
« Reply #5 on: Mon, 31 December 2012, 16:53:17 »
Tenkeyless has a very specific layout in my opinion, so I would not include the G80-5000, Deck/TG3 82, Choc mini, HHKB, Race, Pure, Poker... etc as they are different form factor, different than a 104/105 with the numpad chopped off.

Agreed.  TKL is very different from other compact layouts as TKL usually means 87 key in a layout as lysol described.
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Re: List of Tenkeyless
« Reply #6 on: Mon, 31 December 2012, 16:59:12 »
Tenkeyless has a very specific layout in my opinion, so I would not include the G80-5000, Deck/TG3 82, Choc mini, HHKB, Race, Pure, Poker... etc as they are different form factor, different than a 104/105 with the numpad chopped off.

I thought so, but I didn't know if that was a thing or not. I didn't know if compact was a sub-set of TKL, or it's own category. I'll update the thread to break these out.


Also missing Archiss (model escapes me), Keycool 87, HPE 87, Noppoo Mid, Leopold FC700, Leopold FC200lite (with Alps type switch), Ducky 1087XM (with Alps type switch), Razer Black Widow Tournament, Typenow Solid... I am sure there is more I can't think of at the moment.

See, I knew that I was leaving out a lot. Thanks!

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Re: List of Tenkeyless
« Reply #7 on: Mon, 31 December 2012, 17:02:29 »
Aye, as Lysol says, "TKL" usually refers to keyboards that are compact and without numpad, but have at least a few extra columns on the right side. Anyway, here are some that I don't think have been mentioned yet:

PLU
PLU ML-87

Team Scorpion
Team Scorpion Zero.87

Armageddon
Strike Eagle MKI-3
Black Hornet MKA-3

Rapoo
Rapoo V7

Zalman
ZM-K500

Shogun Bros
Cross Blade

Newmen
GM-10

Genius
M1

ViewSonic
V1
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Re: List of Tenkeyless
« Reply #8 on: Mon, 31 December 2012, 17:07:50 »
This info would be a great addition to the wiki

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Re: List of Tenkeyless
« Reply #9 on: Mon, 31 December 2012, 17:11:39 »
Korean customs? ;D

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Re: List of Tenkeyless
« Reply #10 on: Mon, 31 December 2012, 17:15:16 »
Hmn, no I don't even remember seeing some of those mentioned at all on the forums.
Having list grouped by oem and pictures would be nice too, since some of them are the 'same' keyboards with different 'brands'.

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Re: List of Tenkeyless
« Reply #11 on: Mon, 31 December 2012, 17:39:36 »
Hmn, no I don't even remember seeing some of those mentioned at all on the forums.
Having list grouped by oem and pictures would be nice too, since some of them are the 'same' keyboards with different 'brands'.

You're right. For example, Archiss is supposedly the Japanese version of the Leopold.

I'm building a spreadsheet as I go since there's more information I'm trying to capture as I find it.

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Re: List of Tenkeyless & Compact Keyboards
« Reply #12 on: Mon, 31 December 2012, 17:41:32 »
Smaller than TKL is usually 75% and 60% depending on how much stuff is omitted.  Then there are the narrow but fully populated boards that are usually the result of making them fit in a rack, forget specific models tho.  G80-1800 is like this.
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Re: List of Tenkeyless
« Reply #13 on: Mon, 31 December 2012, 17:45:12 »
Aye, as Lysol says, "TKL" usually refers to keyboards that are compact and without numpad, but have at least a few extra columns on the right side. Anyway, here are some that I don't think have been mentioned yet:

Thank you FoxWolf1! I've incorporated your additions to the list.

This info would be a great addition to the wiki

I'd be happy to work on it, or assist in any way possible.


Korean customs? ;D

Still a bit wet behind the ears on what's out there, so you if you have any links, or info on these boards, please share. :)


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Re: List of Tenkeyless & Compact Keyboards
« Reply #14 on: Mon, 31 December 2012, 17:46:37 »
Smaller than TKL is usually 75% and 60% depending on how much stuff is omitted.  Then there are the narrow but fully populated boards that are usually the result of making them fit in a rack, forget specific models tho.  G80-1800 is like this.

Does the term "Compact" cover all of these boards, or do you think the "narrow but fully populated" is it's own category?

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Re: List of Tenkeyless & Compact Keyboards
« Reply #15 on: Mon, 31 December 2012, 17:50:22 »
I think you have it fine now, each in thier own category, it's good. I suppose you could make another list of spacesavers like the G80-1800, 11900, CM TK, Plum96, etc...

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Re: List of Tenkeyless & Compact Keyboards
« Reply #16 on: Mon, 31 December 2012, 17:58:16 »
Leopold 700r to the TKL.

The Realforce keyboards like the 87U are TKL not Compact. 

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Re: List of Tenkeyless & Compact Keyboards
« Reply #17 on: Mon, 31 December 2012, 18:17:41 »
Leopold 700r to the TKL.

The Realforce keyboards like the 87U are TKL not Compact.

Thank you for the corrections. Updated.

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List of Tenkeyless & Compact Keyboards
« Reply #18 on: Mon, 31 December 2012, 20:05:22 »
This info would be a great addition to the wiki

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Re: List of Tenkeyless & Compact Keyboards
« Reply #19 on: Mon, 31 December 2012, 23:33:21 »
Nearly forgot...Neo Zelia, LBots Mechanic, and FlashGet G600 all deserve places on the "TKL" list. These are all Chinese keyboards, and in the case of the LBots, I'm working entirely on the basis of the branding on the keyboard itself to determine the name, so it may or may not actually be called something entirely different.

Deck 82's cheaper cousin, the TG3 BL82, can go under Compact, as can the DS Sun88.

KBT Oni belongs under TKL, and KBT One doesn't belong at all (it's full-size).
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Re: List of Tenkeyless & Compact Keyboards
« Reply #20 on: Tue, 01 January 2013, 04:22:39 »
Here are some more...

DSI SMK-85

Ortek MCK-84

SiiG MiniTouch (81 key)

TrulyErgonomic

The first 3 are ALPS-type boards that are out of production, while the TE has Cherry switches and was released last year (and is fairly compact).

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Re: List of Tenkeyless & Compact Keyboards
« Reply #21 on: Wed, 02 January 2013, 15:15:18 »
I was thinking of doing his same thing a couple months ago, but you beAt me to it. Thanks for the work!
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« Reply #22 on: Wed, 02 January 2013, 15:57:36 »
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Re: List of Tenkeyless & Compact Keyboards
« Reply #23 on: Wed, 02 January 2013, 16:17:49 »
Korean galore! :)) :))

KMAC family has KMAC, KMAC LE, K-pad (numpad only), K-mini (poker sized with Fn row on the left side, weird layout), KMAC 1.2 and KMAC 2. All of which are TKL except those mentioned.

MX-mini is a noopoo choc mini sized keyboard.

The 356/456 family, Cheat, LZs are less common and hence shall not be named

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Re: List of Tenkeyless & Compact Keyboards
« Reply #24 on: Thu, 03 January 2013, 14:27:48 »
Also would you consider adding the Plum 96 Keyboard to this list? It includes the number pad, but integrates the arrow cluster into number pad. I would include a picture, but I'm on a cell phone right now.
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Re: List of Tenkeyless & Compact Keyboards
« Reply #25 on: Mon, 07 January 2013, 14:13:30 »
@FoxWolf1, @Burz and @Shadovved -- thank you for the suggestions, I've updated the list. Let me know if I miss-understood any of your suggestions and made any mistakes.

@fuus -- thanks! Hopefully we can expand on this and make it a really nice resource for others.

@prdlm2009 -- thank you for your encouragement. I've asked to be given access to the wiki, if so I think this could be added. As for the Plum 96, unless I'm missing something, it looks like that's a full sized keyboard.


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« Reply #26 on: Mon, 07 January 2013, 14:35:40 »
As for the Plum 96, unless I'm missing something, it looks like that's a full sized keyboard.

It's 96key/space-saving design, not full-size.

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Re: List of Tenkeyless & Compact Keyboards
« Reply #27 on: Mon, 07 January 2013, 14:53:12 »
Plum 96 an awesome space saver.  Just like the Coolermaster Storm TK



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Re: List of Tenkeyless & Compact Keyboards
« Reply #28 on: Mon, 07 January 2013, 18:07:31 »
Plum 96 an awesome space saver.  Just like the Coolermaster Storm TK

Corrected. Thank you for the clarification and for the link.

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« Reply #29 on: Mon, 07 January 2013, 18:11:25 »
Nice list, very useful for those who are shopping (and who on GH isn't shopping?).

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Re: List of Tenkeyless & Compact Keyboards
« Reply #30 on: Tue, 08 January 2013, 00:41:07 »
Under IBM, there exists the model F "unsaver" tenkeyless size, though it doesn't exactly save space compared to a normal 104. The partnumber is 1387033 (for the lexmark refurb of it) it is effectively an F-122 that is missing the tenkey, so it sitll hav 24+10 function keys.

As far as compact, you might consider adding the cherry ML keyswitch compact boards, like the G84-4***

There's also a lot of older keyboards with smaller layouts. The (plastic plate!) vivanco/keypot KPT84 comes to mind.

Also, I believe it's "plum 96" not "plumb".

Are you including matrix keyboards like an access-IS 6*12?

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« Reply #31 on: Tue, 08 January 2013, 06:44:34 »
The KMAC family has the original KMAC 1 as well, called the KMAC.

In the same colours as the LE ;)

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« Reply #32 on: Tue, 08 January 2013, 08:12:38 »
If you include KMAC not sure why not to include these, up to you guys

off the top of my head

356/456 Family
356L
356N
356CL
356CL Dark Grey Edition
356N MKII
456GT

The Cheat
Koala
DKSaver

LZ Family
LZ 87/86 (LZ-S, LZ-F)
LZSE
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Re: List of Tenkeyless & Compact Keyboards
« Reply #33 on: Tue, 08 January 2013, 15:27:47 »
Also, I believe it's "plum 96" not "plumb".

This is true...

It's also not a TKL (by definition), since it has a number pad.
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Re: List of Tenkeyless & Compact Keyboards
« Reply #34 on: Wed, 09 January 2013, 13:41:34 »
The first three that I listed, DSI SMK85, the Ortek and the SiiG belong in the compact category. They are pretty much 75% boards.
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« Reply #35 on: Wed, 09 January 2013, 14:32:51 »
Just introduced by Matias:

Mini Tactile Pro

Mini Quiet Pro


Mini Laptop Pro (with bluetooth)

They are all compact layout and all appear to have the same geometry.
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Re: List of Tenkeyless & Compact Keyboards
« Reply #36 on: Wed, 09 January 2013, 16:54:19 »
@Shadovved -- added

@tsangan -- You rock. Thank you.

@FoxWolf1 -- true, I think we might have to add another category for "space saver". What do you guys think?

@Burz -- edited your original list and added the Matias keyboard. Thanks!

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Re: List of Tenkeyless & Compact Keyboards
« Reply #37 on: Wed, 09 January 2013, 20:49:56 »
As someone interested in collecting TKLs, but not space savers I concur

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« Reply #38 on: Wed, 09 January 2013, 23:30:01 »
Microsoft Arc Keyboard?

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Re: List of Tenkeyless & Compact Keyboards
« Reply #39 on: Thu, 10 January 2013, 00:19:52 »
It appears Truly Ergonomic made it to the list. I'd suggest separate category for such keyboards — Kinesis Advantage could appear there as well, and if you want to add rubber domes, then Goldtouch Adjustable Keyboard, TypeMatrix 2020 & 2030 and Kinesis Freestyle could be there too.

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Re: List of Tenkeyless & Compact Keyboards
« Reply #40 on: Thu, 10 January 2013, 06:37:35 »
Thanks for this list. I was wondering what other things besides the always talked about were out there.
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Re: List of Tenkeyless & Compact Keyboards
« Reply #41 on: Thu, 10 January 2013, 08:04:52 »
Noppoo choc mini red is my favorite!

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Re: List of Tenkeyless & Compact Keyboards
« Reply #42 on: Thu, 10 January 2013, 17:18:26 »
Mashby, you're on a roll with these lists. I saw that GH keycap list you posted and now this. Good stuff man. I personally prefer full size boards at the moment but I'd like to pick up a QFR to try out TKL. Unless someone else has a good recommendation.

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Re: List of Tenkeyless & Compact Keyboards
« Reply #43 on: Thu, 10 January 2013, 18:03:32 »
Mashby, you're on a roll with these lists. I saw that GH keycap list you posted and now this. Good stuff man. I personally prefer full size boards at the moment but I'd like to pick up a QFR to try out TKL. Unless someone else has a good recommendation.

I think QFR is the perfect board to try out.  It is arguably the best value money can buy at the moment, thus a cheap and readily available way to try out the form factor.  Having both the boards you list as well, I will say it's much closer to the Filco than the Blackwidow :)

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Re: List of Tenkeyless & Compact Keyboards
« Reply #44 on: Thu, 10 January 2013, 22:09:00 »
Mashby, you're on a roll with these lists. I saw that GH keycap list you posted and now this. Good stuff man. I personally prefer full size boards at the moment but I'd like to pick up a QFR to try out TKL. Unless someone else has a good recommendation.

I think QFR is the perfect board to try out.  It is arguably the best value money can buy at the moment, thus a cheap and readily available way to try out the form factor.  Having both the boards you list as well, I will say it's much closer to the Filco than the Blackwidow :)

Haha, I know my poor Blackwidow gets no love. But it was my intro to mechanical boards so I'm a little fond of it. That being said. This Filco is head and shoulders above it ^_^

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Re: List of Tenkeyless & Compact Keyboards
« Reply #45 on: Thu, 07 March 2013, 21:02:08 »
I just wanted to add that the Armageddon Black Hornet MKA-3 comes in Black and Brown Cherry MX Switches.

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Re: List of Tenkeyless & Compact Keyboards
« Reply #46 on: Fri, 08 March 2013, 01:14:34 »
There's also the LZ MX mini. And soon to be reality LZ GH

And regarding this part:

The Cheat
Koala
DKSaver

I'm not too familiar with Koala but The Cheat and DK Saver are different keyboards from different times. DK saver was the first custom TKL from Korea made by users dating back to 2007ish. Came in both winkey and winkeyless. Only 40 were made and some were modded to fit alps switches.

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Re: List of Tenkeyless & Compact Keyboards
« Reply #47 on: Thu, 04 April 2013, 13:36:01 »
Is there a sub-set of these TKL (or space-saver) keyboards that have Alps switches?  I don't know if this is the right place to ask, but it's the closest subject match I could find.

Fantastic list, by the way!  I really appreciate having these models listed in one place, helps out a new keyboard aficionado immensely!

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Re: List of Tenkeyless & Compact Keyboards
« Reply #48 on: Thu, 04 April 2013, 14:08:23 »
Thank you Greystoke. It's been awhile since I updated this list. I'll clean it up tonight.  ;D

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Re: List of Tenkeyless & Compact Keyboards
« Reply #49 on: Thu, 04 April 2013, 15:03:22 »
Is there a sub-set of these TKL (or space-saver) keyboards that have Alps switches?

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