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[GB (almost) CANCELLED] BSP DYE SUB
« on: Thu, 02 May 2013, 15:17:04 »
Update 05/07

I read a lot of comments in the GB. My apologies to all those who feel frustrated with the actual situation. Most of you guys have file a complain via paypal and so far paypal is already taking care of those (I ll be consider as a "scammer" in the paypal system so, again, THANKS).
About BSP, the people responsible of dealing with my order are now on holidays (as they just told me via phone) and will be back somewhere end of July. I have already request a full refund, but apparently within the "backup" team left, no accountant is present...so SURPRISE, your money is still at BSP's hands, at least until August.

I will be off on holidays for the becoming 3 weeks, but I will connect once in awhile to update here, if necessary.

I will keep u guys informed as soon as I get news from them. I see there is a lot of talk about this, but I do not have the time or energy to  answer everyone, specially not to those who haven't purchase any set.





Update 25/06

First of all, my paypal account is "suspended" due to all the disputes open and my funds nearly -2k (thanks)

So for those who want their  money back asap, I cannot do anything about this. I understand your position but the money is still at BSP's hands. I am trying to keep this GB going, because WE have the right to get what we purchased. They do not have the right to cancel an order based on NOTHING, although some would argue this was sherry whatsoever, well they offered me a product, I purchase it, end of the discussion about jumping on others MOQ, I didn't ask for that, I initially request for samples.. .
As the Contract of Sales of goods states (under the european normative, this is a clear breach of contract, and so far I am trying to persuade them that what they are doing is not legit.

About the blank orders, I do not know why Sherry keeps saying that those would be cancelled. So Sherry, please, do not keep screwing up things here. The blank sets are NOT canceled. Actually BSP is trying to send me the Blank + RGB blank with 1 set of each color (DYESUB sets) which is not acceptable for me, because is not what I purchased.

Conclusion: Sherry, u are giving me a HUGE headache with this situation, and I really hope that u can have a lovely bath with your 400sets. Plus the MOQ stated by BSP was a big bull**** (yes, I got quotations for 25, 50 and 100 MOQ ;), deal with it :D)




Update 17/06

GB (almost) CANCELLED; Trying to agree with Sherry that 19 key sets won't hurt his business more than shutting down a GroupBuy @ GH.

More details here:

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44630.0


IN PRODUCTION!  

Update 28/05

PICS AVAILABLE :D

BLACK SET
Well guys today I got a couple of pics of the BLACK sets (were the first sets done apparently). I requested pics of the rest of the sets. Hopefully I will get more pics tomorrow .

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BLUE SET



Update 08/05

Payment DONE -  Sets are already in production since last monday :>.

Hopefully I can get pics of the sets next week!!

Please, help me with the unpaid orders that I had to cover!!!

2xblack DYESUB TKL
1xgreen DYESUB TKL
1xblue DYESUB TKL
1xred DYESUB TKL
3x BLANK sets & 2x RGB (B-profile)

Those sets were ordered but not paid/canceled too late...

I will kindly appreciate if someone could help me getting rid of some extras...else I will have a lovely dyesub collection that I don't need!

Update 06/05

PAYMENT DUE DATE:
Wednesday 8 of May 00:00 CST.

For those unpaid orders after Wednesday I will make them available for people who miss the GB. Leftovers available on Thursday 9


Update 04/05

BSP initial quotation for blank caps was based on  a MOQ 100. For this GB, and due to the "special" conditions given (NO MOQ, no set up cost) prices are different for RGB blank and Full set.

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Available stuff:

1- Cherry Classic 2-tone DYE SUB TKL sets, a total of 85 keycaps; 1.5x mods and two 1x caps A-profile for the bottom row. Possibility to choose 4 different font colors. BLANK Classic 2-tone PBT 102 keycaps sets.
2- BSP PBT BLANK Classic 2-tone sets (102 caps, Grey&beige)
3- Possibility to add PBT BLANK RGB set (1.5x mods, A & B profile available) with any of the sets.


1- Cherry classic 2 tone sets (Grey&Beige) TKL ANSI sets

Options:

DYESUB Font color (black, blue, green, red).

Remarks:
Bottom row is A-profile. TKL sets include two 1x A profile caps (to be decided becoming Monday if those will be dyesub or blank), hence the 85 keycaps winkeyless tkl consist of 83 caps.
NO SPACE BAR

Limited units

Price per set = 95,60 €


2- BSP PBT BLANK Classic 2-tone sets (102 caps, Grey&beige)

This sets also include two extra blank 1x keycap in A profile, hence a total of 102 keycaps

Price per set =  68,35€


3- EXTRA PBT RGB Blank set

Price per set = 15,5€



Shipcost:

1-2 sets:  €17 worldwide, 10€ anywhere in Europe.  PostNL Priority "brief" with Track&Trace.
2+ sets: €24,30 wordwide, 14 to 19,50€ depends where in Europe. PostNL small package with Track&Trace.

Got few questions about combining shipment. I think it could be great for Americans to combine shipping, but you need to propose who would do that. I cannot organize it.

Payment via paypal/bank transfer as an option (if you are in Europe).
Buyer pays paypal/transfer fees.

Lead time: 3 weeks (Week 22)

No pictures (yet).  If someone is wondering about the spacebar, it is likely that 7x GMK spacebars will be available soon being a perfect match for this set.
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Re: BSP DYE SUB TKL sets - 85 caps - no spacebar
« Reply #1 on: Thu, 02 May 2013, 15:18:59 »
I'll take a set

font color: Black

could I have the mods explained to me so I can pick from them better?
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Re: BSP DYE SUB TKL sets - 85 caps - no spacebar
« Reply #2 on: Thu, 02 May 2013, 15:19:21 »
Do you have pics of this set as I would like a red font. Do these come with 1.5 mods and/or 1.25?

I'm interested in a set!
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Re: BSP DYE SUB TKL sets - 85 caps - no spacebar
« Reply #3 on: Thu, 02 May 2013, 15:23:44 »
I'll take a set

font color: Black

could I have the mods explained to me so I can pick from them better?

A profile is the classic 1.5x Cherry profile. B profile is the modern mods profile (same as the Shift I believe)

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Re: BSP DYE SUB TKL sets - 85 caps - no spacebar
« Reply #4 on: Thu, 02 May 2013, 15:25:53 »
Down for a set
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BSP DYE SUB TKL sets - 85 caps - no spacebar
« Reply #5 on: Thu, 02 May 2013, 15:27:57 »
Down for a set.

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Re: BSP DYE SUB TKL sets - 85 caps - no spacebar
« Reply #6 on: Thu, 02 May 2013, 15:28:04 »
Interesting. Mat get a set, and sell the one I have coming in the mail.
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Re: BSP DYE SUB TKL sets - 85 caps - no spacebar
« Reply #7 on: Thu, 02 May 2013, 15:29:01 »
Do you have pics of this set as I would like a red font. Do these come with 1.5 mods and/or 1.25?

I'm interested in a set!

BSP only does 1.5x. they dont have 1.25x molds (unfortuantely)

No pics available. They had never done sets with red font until I requested...so I cannot send you any picture (yet).

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Re: BSP DYE SUB TKL sets - 85 caps - no spacebar
« Reply #8 on: Thu, 02 May 2013, 15:33:44 »
Down for a set
Down for a set.

Send me your paypal details via pm, I will send you the bill tomorrow morning the latest.

Forgot to mention that shipping options are rather limited here in The Netherlands...(and expensive) I prefer track&trace service to avoid any problems with paypal
Shipping via PostNL with track&trace is around €17 worldwide (I will have to double check that).

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Re: BSP DYE SUB TKL sets - 85 caps - no spacebar
« Reply #9 on: Thu, 02 May 2013, 15:34:52 »


I'm interested in a set!

Send me a pm with your paypal details too :P

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Re: BSP DYE SUB TKL sets - 85 caps - no spacebar
« Reply #10 on: Thu, 02 May 2013, 15:45:12 »
I'll take a set

font color: Black

could I have the mods explained to me so I can pick from them better?

A profile is the classic 1.5x Cherry profile. B profile is the modern mods profile (same as the Shift I believe)

so it's a height difference. can anybody relate it to the sp caps?
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Re: BSP DYE SUB TKL sets - 85 caps - no spacebar
« Reply #11 on: Thu, 02 May 2013, 15:49:49 »
I'll take a set

font color: Black

could I have the mods explained to me so I can pick from them better?

A profile is the classic 1.5x Cherry profile. B profile is the modern mods profile (same as the Shift I believe)

so it's a height difference. can anybody relate it to the sp caps?

Here a clear example of A profile vs B profile (the tallest is the A profile)


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Re: BSP DYE SUB TKL sets - 85 caps - no spacebar
« Reply #12 on: Thu, 02 May 2013, 15:56:38 »
question: space bar, alt,win,page,ctrl,caps lock wont fit Costar boards right?
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Re: BSP DYE SUB TKL sets - 85 caps - no spacebar
« Reply #13 on: Thu, 02 May 2013, 15:58:52 »
question: space bar, alt,win,page,ctrl,caps lock wont fit Costar boards right?
No space bar included, not sure about the caps lock (might include both), but all the others won't fit. Wrong sizing.

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Re: BSP DYE SUB TKL sets - 85 caps - no spacebar
« Reply #14 on: Thu, 02 May 2013, 15:59:21 »
question: space bar, alt,win,page,ctrl,caps lock wont fit Costar boards right?

Exactly...this sets, unfortunately, don't fit modern costar keyboards (1.5x modifiers & 6x spacebar, stepped capslock) unless you use a moogle kit from SP.

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Re: BSP DYE SUB TKL sets - 85 caps - no spacebar
« Reply #15 on: Thu, 02 May 2013, 16:01:45 »
ok thanks, going to past due to cost + having to chase Moogle that no one runs GB for them anymore
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Re: [FS] BSP DYE SUB TKL sets - 85 keys - no spacebar
« Reply #16 on: Thu, 02 May 2013, 17:46:54 »
Only ANSI?
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Re: [FS] BSP DYE SUB TKL sets - 85 keys - no spacebar
« Reply #17 on: Thu, 02 May 2013, 17:57:39 »
Only ANSI?

Yes, BSP don't have left shift or big Enter molds.
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[FS] BSP DYE SUB TKL sets - 85 keys - no spacebar
« Reply #18 on: Thu, 02 May 2013, 20:25:19 »
Down for a set, PM sent yo

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Re: [FS] BSP DYE SUB TKL sets - 85 keys - no spacebar
« Reply #19 on: Thu, 02 May 2013, 20:27:58 »
Would really want a picture before I decide. : D
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Re: [FS] BSP DYE SUB TKL sets - 85 keys - no spacebar
« Reply #20 on: Thu, 02 May 2013, 22:01:01 »
i will take at least one set. :D

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Re: [FS] BSP DYE SUB TKL sets - 85 keys - no spacebar
« Reply #21 on: Fri, 03 May 2013, 00:07:46 »
Would really want a picture before I decide. : D
could I get a picture of the blue text and red text ones?

For those wanting pictures...sets are not in production yet so I cannot provide any pictures.


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Re: [FS] BSP DYE SUB TKL sets - 85 keys - no spacebar
« Reply #22 on: Fri, 03 May 2013, 00:19:59 »
Would really want a picture before I decide. : D
could I get a picture of the blue text and red text ones?

For those wanting pictures...sets are not in production yet so I cannot provide any pictures.
will they look like this?:https://www.originativeco.com/classic-beige-blue-two-tone

Yes, but PBT and DYE SUB rather than doubleshot ABS.

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Re: [FS] BSP DYE SUB TKL sets - 85 keys - no spacebar
« Reply #23 on: Fri, 03 May 2013, 00:29:54 »
Would really want a picture before I decide. : D
could I get a picture of the blue text and red text ones?

For those wanting pictures...sets are not in production yet so I cannot provide any pictures.
will they look like this?:https://www.originativeco.com/classic-beige-blue-two-tone

Yes, but PBT and DYE SUB rather than doubleshot ABS.
darn :/ I like PBT and all but the colors are so much clearer in the originitiveco version and probably a bit cheaper.

Well those are double shots so you shouldn't really compare those two. DS will have the most crisp fonts but dye sub is superior in every other way IMO.

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Re: [FS] BSP DYE SUB TKL sets - 85 keys - no spacebar
« Reply #24 on: Fri, 03 May 2013, 02:13:14 »
Can i buy only rgb?

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Re: [FS] BSP DYE SUB TKL sets - 85 keys - no spacebar
« Reply #25 on: Fri, 03 May 2013, 02:18:15 »
Can i buy only rgb?

No sorry.

RGB is an option of the TKL set.


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Re: [FS] BSP DYE SUB TKL sets - 85 keys - no spacebar
« Reply #26 on: Fri, 03 May 2013, 04:36:52 »
But it's an addition not a replacement of the regular mods right? Also is it only 1 RGB possible per set ordered or can you order 1 set and and 2x RGB for example?

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Re: [FS] BSP DYE SUB TKL sets - 85 keys - no spacebar
« Reply #27 on: Fri, 03 May 2013, 04:48:45 »
Cherry classic 2 tone sets (Grey&Beige) ANSI sets

Options:
1- Font colour (black).
2- B mods profile

This is the ONE I want to buy from you, have already PM'd you with my details.

Looking forward to trying these out on a Cherry board soon.

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« Reply #28 on: Fri, 03 May 2013, 05:33:04 »
The GoW is SEXY. When will they be available?

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Re: [FS] BSP DYE SUB TKL sets - 85 keys - no spacebar
« Reply #29 on: Fri, 03 May 2013, 05:49:34 »

Examples:

Blue; replica of Olivetti dye sub

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Re: [FS] BSP DYE SUB TKL sets - 85 keys - no spacebar
« Reply #30 on: Fri, 03 May 2013, 06:09:47 »
But it's an addition not a replacement of the regular mods right? Also is it only 1 RGB possible per set ordered or can you order 1 set and and 2x RGB for example?

Exactly, it is an ADD-On of the actual 85 keycap set.

Cherry classic 2 tone sets (Grey&Beige) ANSI sets

Options:
1- Font colour (black).
2- B mods profile

This is the ONE I want to buy from you, have already PM'd you with my details.

Looking forward to trying these out on a Cherry board soon.

Got it. Will send you the bill later.

The GoW is SEXY. When will they be available?

I guess you mean green on white? It won't happen now, but who knows what will the future bring?? Maybe Blue/Green Alert (blue on white, green on white), G81-3000SAV replicas... :cool:





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Re: [FS] BSP DYE SUB TKL sets - 85 keys - no spacebar
« Reply #31 on: Fri, 03 May 2013, 06:16:30 »

Examples:

Blue; replica of Olivetti dye sub

Show Image




That's my thumb  :-X.

PD: I never signed an affidavit to use my personal image as a marketing scheme, I'd settle for a cut  :cool:

thanks for letting me "stealing" your pic :P

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Re: [FS] BSP DYE SUB TKL sets - 85 keys - no spacebar
« Reply #32 on: Fri, 03 May 2013, 07:26:54 »
PM for shipping option :D

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Re: [FS] BSP DYE SUB TKL sets - 85 keys - no spacebar
« Reply #33 on: Fri, 03 May 2013, 08:26:33 »
Sad news.

Due to extra cost associated to tooling change I have to stick to A profile sets.

For those who wanted B profile, I am sorry but It won't happen this time.\

Will edit OP to make it clear there too.

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Re: [FS] BSP DYE SUB TKL sets - 85 keys - no spacebar
« Reply #34 on: Fri, 03 May 2013, 08:32:07 »
You really probably should have put this in the groupbuy section since that is what you are doing essentially as you don't have the items in hand to sell right now.
Was thinking about it until see only A profile. Oh well will keep eye for another time with B profile.

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Re: [FS] BSP DYE SUB TKL sets - 85 keys - no spacebar
« Reply #35 on: Fri, 03 May 2013, 08:53:52 »
Aaalright...well for BLANK RGB A & B profile will be available. Confirmed 100%. Sorry, again, for the confusion caused.

Added to OP:  Classic 2-tone BLANK PBT sets (102caps) to match with the blank RGB!
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Sorry, not interested in A profile
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He don't have any set on hand my friend :)

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Only suit Iso kit? :-X

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He don't have any set on hand my friend :)

Exactly :)

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Only suit Iso kit? :-X

What do you mean? This are ANSI sets, both of them. No ISO stuff here :(

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Only suit Iso kit? :-X

What do you mean? This are ANSI sets, both of them. No ISO stuff here :(
Sorry I view image above. So I think ISO set (Enter key).
I'm very sorry  :-[

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BSP stuff: DYE SUB TKL sets - PBT Blank 2-tone full sets - Blank RGB 1.5x
« Reply #44 on: Fri, 03 May 2013, 11:06:19 »
A profile = OEM
B = cherry

Is that correct?

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A row is old school style. Modern boards have B profile like shift on the bottom row.

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Forgive my ignorance, but what's the difference between this set and say an imsto set of PBTs?
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Availability of 1.5 mods and they have the original legends, not community made copy. For those that want 1.5 this is the way to go, for those that want 1.25 I will be starting similar buy next week.

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Availability of 1.5 mods and they have the original legends, not community made copy. For those that want 1.5 this is the way to go, for those that want 1.25 I will be starting similar buy next week.

Any difference in quality or feel? Is BSP using cherry molds?
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BSP is the maker of Desko etc. so it should be top notch.