Author Topic: Dvorak,Colemak or Maltron,workman.etc (Read 28152 times)

Proword · « **Reply #50 on:** Tue, 31 December 2013, 19:15:07 »

Quote from: Oobly on Tue, 31 December 2013, 03:03:33

Yes, I'd like to see comparative statistics for Malt layout, too. It's a well thought out and properly "designed" layout. I wasn't referring to a previous post with my "generalisations" comment. Simply that as a generalisation, Dvorak does have stronger hand alternation than the "common" alternative layouts, particularly those designed for standard horizontally staggered physical layouts (QWERTY, Colemak, Workman, etc.)

In September 1977 Lilian Malt presented a paper to the conference of PIRA (Printing Industry Research Association).

https://www.smitherspira.com/About-us.aspx

giving her findings from her research.

Since this was 1977, there were really only three keyboard distributions in use, QWERTY, Dvorak and Maltron. Thus Malt was obviously unable to compare newer layouts, but her paper has some interesting figures.

On page 6,

http://www.maltron.com/media/lillian_kditee_006.pdf

she discusses at some length the factors taken into account when designing a keyboard distribution.

On page 7 she presents tabulated results for her research

http://www.maltron.com/media/lillian_kditee_007.pdf

including, towards the bottom (Table 9) "Balance of keystrokes to each hand. Percentage of all language."

This perhaps should go some way to fulfilling your desire to include Malt's distribution in any discussion.

On page 2

http://www.maltron.com/media/lillian_kditee_002.pdf

she gives a selection of areas of inefficiencies or "bottlenecks" in the use of keyboards.

From my own point of view, as a court reporter, I observe that she quotes a figure of 15 wpm for the production of typescript from handwritten shorthand notes. In 1979 I started learning Pitman's pen writing, but at the same time I bought my first computer, and as I learned about it, I decided that the computer had the potential to eliminate the "middle man" and I would be able to enter abbreviations on the keyboard and have instant transcription into a first draft, subject to correction (which would have to be done whether from handwriting or keyboard.) I dropped the Pitman's and went on to develop my own shorthand. About 6 years ago I took an entire month's work, reduced it to straight text (no formatting, page breaks etc) and calculated that based upon an 8 hour day, and a 5 day week, with NO breaks of any sort, I was achieving 23 wpm. And given that I was using the finished (ie proof read and corrected) copy it was virtually 100% accurate.

As I say, this was only for myself, but it certainly gives me an absolute conviction that I could NEVER have achieved that figure with any other keyboard than a Maltron. (It should be noted that although I used shorthand, this was totally unrelated to which key distribution I used, as it will work on ANY keyboard.)

Joe

Proword · « **Reply #51 on:** Tue, 31 December 2013, 19:33:12 »

Further to my previous post, this paper by Stephen Hobday

http://www.maltron.com/keyboard-info/academic-papers/234-a-keyboard-to-increase-productivity-and-reduce-postural-stress

gives a diagrammatic representation of loadings on individual digits. It's interesting to note that on both QWERTY and Dvorak, the loading on the thumb(s) is 16% whereas on Maltron it is 26%. (In the Malt distribution the left thumb is the letter "E".)

On Edit: On page 4 of her paper (last paragraph)

http://www.maltron.com/media/lillian_kditee_004.pdf

Malt says that "both left and right thumbs may now be used quite extensively. These two digits are the strongest and most flexible of all and have the backup of a considerably larger section of the brain than other digits. Nine times the brain size in fact."

Linkbane · « **Reply #52 on:** Sun, 05 January 2014, 01:56:52 »

Quote from: Proword on Tue, 31 December 2013, 19:33:12

Further to my previous post, this paper by Stephen Hobday

http://www.maltron.com/keyboard-info/academic-papers/234-a-keyboard-to-increase-productivity-and-reduce-postural-stress

gives a diagrammatic representation of loadings on individual digits. It's interesting to note that on both QWERTY and Dvorak, the loading on the thumb(s) is 16% whereas on Maltron it is 26%. (In the Malt distribution the left thumb is the letter "E".)

On Edit: On page 4 of her paper (last paragraph)

http://www.maltron.com/media/lillian_kditee_004.pdf

Malt says that "both left and right thumbs may now be used quite extensively. These two digits are the strongest and most flexible of all and have the backup of a considerably larger section of the brain than other digits. Nine times the brain size in fact."

Unrelated but I can see how it might be interesting to a Maltron user such as yourself. I seriously doubt Maltron's logic in using brain allocation and muscle size on typing ability, though.

Proword · « **Reply #53 on:** Sun, 05 January 2014, 02:29:19 »

Stephen Hobday is a highly qualified engineer, and a life member of the IEEE

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institute_of_Electrical_and_Electronics_Engineers

His resume:

http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/stephen-hobday/20/669/183

Do you have any qualifications or experience in this area? If not then whilst you are free to express your opinion, it is just that, a personal opinion. Any "doubts" you may have are totally irrelevant.

Linkbane · « **Reply #54 on:** Sun, 05 January 2014, 11:04:59 »

Quote from: Proword on Sun, 05 January 2014, 02:29:19

Stephen Hobday is a highly qualified engineer, and a life member of the IEEE

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institute_of_Electrical_and_Electronics_Engineers

His resume:

http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/stephen-hobday/20/669/183

Do you have any qualifications or experience in this area? If not then whilst you are free to express your opinion, it is just that, a personal opinion. Any "doubts" you may have are totally irrelevant.

This 'conversation' has degenerated into you attempting to snub me when I try to comment on your fallacious statements. You may continue being an immature child to people other than myself.

Yasuo, I also recommend that you lock this thread. I'm pretty sure it's gone past any semblance of use, thanks to our friend Proword.

shaaniqbal · « **Reply #55 on:** Sun, 05 January 2014, 12:23:03 »

Quote from: Proword on Tue, 10 September 2013, 21:06:22

These two videos demonstrate how much difference there is between using the Malt layout and the QWERTY layout of the Maltron keyboard, in terms of hand movements using the upper arm. The QWERTY operator is hovering her hands nearly 100% of the time, whereas the Malt operator's hands are resting on the built in palm rests for almost the same percentage of time.

I did my own version of comparing the number of words which can be typed without moving the hands from the home key rows, but including QWERTY, Dvorak, Colemak and Maltron.

http://proword-keyboardlayoutefficiency.blogspot.com.au/

Based upon an international Scrabble word list of 172,807 words, the following figures were derived. (The actual word lists are shown in the blog.)

QWERTY - 198 words can be typed without taking the fingers from the home keys.

DVORAK - 3126 words can be typed without taking the fingers from the home keys.

COLEMAK - 5963 words can be typed without taking the fingers from the home keys.

MALTRON - 7639 words can be typed without taking the fingers from the home keys.

Joe

Hi Proword. By this standard (number of words that can be typed on home keys) my layout wins.

Proword · « **Reply #56 on:** Sun, 05 January 2014, 17:41:18 »

Quote from: shaaniqbal on Sun, 05 January 2014, 12:23:03

Hi Proword. By this standard (number of words that can be typed on home keys) my layout wins.

Well done. In the interests of due diligence and keeping the thread factual, what was your methodology? eg which list of words did you use and what result do you claim?

Joe

shaaniqbal · « **Reply #57 on:** Sun, 05 January 2014, 17:55:47 »

Thanks Joe. I claim that on T9-QWERTY 95% or more English words can be typed without leaving the home keys - 100% if a predictive algorithm is used. I used a list of around 500 of the most common words and found that 3 words conflicted (i.e. require you to leave the home keys to press one of the conflict resolution keys).

Note: The idea is in part thanks to you and your suggestion of using WordPerfect to create abbreviations, which got me interested in text replacement. I found a better application (Phrase Express) which by the way would allow your idea of using shorthand to be used globally across the operating system, rather than confined to a Word Processor.

Proword · « **Reply #58 on:** Sun, 05 January 2014, 18:18:47 »

I can't find my exact list on the net, but here is an interesting list of English words similar to that which I based my calculations on.

http://www.angelfire.com/extreme4/safer_sephiroth/EVERY_WORD_EVER.htm

I should say here that to me the list of words which can be typed without leaving the home keys is a completely separate issue to using abbreviated typing. My shorthand is not keyboard dependent, as I have said previously, and works just as well on Maltron as on QWERTY or Colemak, or in fact any key distribution. If the operator can touch type, then the shorthand can be employed.

Joe

shaaniqbal · « **Reply #59 on:** Sun, 05 January 2014, 18:25:59 »

I used the top 500 word list from http://www.world-english.org/english500.htm and the top 300 words from http://www.duboislc.net/EducationWatch/First100Words.html which amounts to 521 unique words. Out of those 521, 518 can be typed without leaving the home keys. I would estimate 95% or more of English words could be typed.

shaaniqbal · « **Reply #60 on:** Sun, 05 January 2014, 18:28:54 »

Quote from: Proword on Sun, 05 January 2014, 18:18:47

I should say here that to me the list of words which can be typed without leaving the home keys is a completely separate issue to using abbreviated typing. My shorthand is not keyboard dependent, as I have said previously, and works just as well on Maltron as on QWERTY or Colemak, or in fact any key distribution. If the operator can touch type, then the shorthand can be employed.
Joe

Yes I understand that, but I thought it worth mentioning that Phrase Express would be a better software than WordPerfect as it would allow the shorthand to be used within any application on the operating system. I've already started using my own personal shorthand taking ideas from your list (to score a whooping 180 WPM on 10FastFingers).

Proword · « **Reply #61 on:** Sun, 05 January 2014, 18:39:57 »

The WordPerfect shorthand can be used by any software which has access to the Windows copy/paste function*. I use the WP to compile my document, execute a "select all/copy" WP macro (single keystroke), shift the focus to the relevant working software and paste. When I return the focus to the WP window, the text is still highlighted, so I can either cancel the select function, and continue working in the same document, or start typing a new document, which automatically deletes the highlighted text.

Joe

*This doesn't usually work with the typing testers though, but I get enough practice in ordinary daily work.

But congratulations on the 180 wpm

shaaniqbal · « **Reply #62 on:** Sun, 05 January 2014, 18:42:24 »

I think that's an unnecessarily tedious process, when you can just use a text replacement program like Phrase Express. Say you're on a chatroom, as I understand it you would have to alt-tab to WordPerfect and back to get your shorthand expanded text, whereas with Phrase Express it would be immediate.

Proword · « **Reply #63 on:** Sun, 05 January 2014, 18:48:47 »

Yes, but an extra 4 keystrokes per copy/paste cycle is pretty small beer with say 500 words of text (I don't use it for absolutely EVERYTHING) comparing to the amount of keying I'd save by using the Shorthand, so really 6 of one, half a dozen of the other.

Joe

shaaniqbal · « **Reply #64 on:** Sun, 05 January 2014, 18:53:07 »

I suppose it does depend what the person uses it for. But as I understood it you were trying to get the younger generation to start using shorthand from a younger age, many of whom probably spend a lot of time on chatrooms etc. I think the idea would sound a lot more appealing if you told them they just needed one program that would do it automatically rather than alt-tabbing around.

What do you think of T9-QWERTY?

Proword · « **Reply #65 on:** Sun, 05 January 2014, 19:04:05 »

Well, given the rate of progress in things such as built-in predictive technology and speech recognition, keyboarding will soon become a very arcane skill, along with driving manual gear shift, petrol driven automobiles and cursive handwriting. So it's really a moot point I suppose. I've actually been using Dragon speech recognition for over a decade, and I wouldn't be able to do my work without it, but it's not the universal panacea, it just needs to be used in the proper context.

The only way I can assess T9 is to learn how to use it, and in view of the above, I don't think there's going to be enough time, before we find ourselves being bogged down to how quickly one can type with one's thumb(s).

(or tongues)

Joe

shaaniqbal · « **Reply #66 on:** Sun, 05 January 2014, 19:13:20 »

Good point. I will have to give Dragon a shot at some point.

By T9-QWERTY I mean the layout I've posted in this forum section which uses the same premise as T9, except on a full keyboard. So you don't have to leave the home keys. It's no different to typing normally, except each key represents multiple letters.

ideus · « **Reply #67 on:** Sun, 05 January 2014, 19:19:22 »

Quote from: Proword on Tue, 10 September 2013, 21:06:22

These two videos demonstrate how much difference there is between using the Malt layout and the QWERTY layout of the Maltron keyboard, in terms of hand movements using the upper arm. The QWERTY operator is hovering her hands nearly 100% of the time, whereas the Malt operator's hands are resting on the built in palm rests for almost the same percentage of time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYJtF1I3PRs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4H931A3BDE

I did my own version of comparing the number of words which can be typed without moving the hands from the home key rows, but including QWERTY, Dvorak, Colemak and Maltron.

http://proword-keyboardlayoutefficiency.blogspot.com.au/

Based upon an international Scrabble word list of 172,807 words, the following figures were derived. (The actual word lists are shown in the blog.)

QWERTY - 198 words can be typed without taking the fingers from the home keys.

DVORAK - 3126 words can be typed without taking the fingers from the home keys.

COLEMAK - 5963 words can be typed without taking the fingers from the home keys.

MALTRON - 7639 words can be typed without taking the fingers from the home keys.

Joe

Could the Maltron layout be implemented on an standard ANSI keyboard?

Proword · « **Reply #68 on:** Sun, 05 January 2014, 19:26:28 »

Since I'm already in the position of having the quality of the audio as the limiting factor for the speed at which I can transcribe, I see no advantage in another layout.

Of course the Maltron is not just about the key layout, but also about the shape of the keyboard, and since because of this I can reach almost all of the alpha keys without lifting my hands from the palm rests, then I've already got the vast majority of the problem solved, so again, another key distribution, no matter how good, will add nothing.

Joe

Proword · « **Reply #69 on:** Sun, 05 January 2014, 19:28:14 »

Quote from: ideus on Sun, 05 January 2014, 19:19:22

Could the Maltron layout be implemented on an standard ANSI keyboard?

Whilst it's something I know nothing about executing, I can't see why not. Probably better answered by someone who makes the modifications, I just buy the keyboard

Joe

shaaniqbal · « **Reply #70 on:** Sun, 05 January 2014, 19:32:49 »

Quote from: Proword on Sun, 05 January 2014, 19:26:28

Since I'm already in the position of having the quality of the audio as the limiting factor for the speed at which I can transcribe, I see no advantage in another layout.

There's no advantage for you personally, but for someone like the original thread poster who wants to try another layout and might not be able to afford a new keyboard, a Maltron keyboard would be impractical and T9-QWERTY would offer them a keyboard layout with minimal motion.

ideus · « **Reply #71 on:** Sun, 05 January 2014, 19:34:39 »

Quote from: Proword on Sun, 05 January 2014, 19:26:28

Since I'm already in the position of having the quality of the audio as the limiting factor for the speed at which I can transcribe, I see no advantage in another layout.

Of course the Maltron is not just about the key layout, but also about the shape of the keyboard, and since because of this I can reach almost all of the alpha keys without lifting my hands from the palm rests, then I've already got the vast majority of the problem solved, so again, another key distribution, no matter how good, will add nothing.

Joe

I am confused: This thread is about keyboard layouts, if you are talking about keyboard designs, then your posts might be out of topic. You may better open a new thread about "Maltron's design". Don't you think?

Proword · « **Reply #72 on:** Sun, 05 January 2014, 19:35:09 »

"There's no advantage for you personally, but for someone like the original thread poster who wants to try another layout and might not be able to afford a new keyboard, a Maltron keyboard would be impractical and T9-QWERTY would offer them a keyboard layout with minimal motion."

That may very well be so.

Joe

Proword · « **Reply #73 on:** Sun, 05 January 2014, 19:39:05 »

Quote from: ideus on Sun, 05 January 2014, 19:34:39

You may better open a new thread about "Maltron's design". Don't you think?

No.

ideus · « **Reply #74 on:** Sun, 05 January 2014, 19:57:38 »

Quote from: Proword on Sun, 05 January 2014, 19:28:14

Quote from: ideus on Sun, 05 January 2014, 19:19:22

Could the Maltron layout be implemented on an standard ANSI keyboard?

Whilst it's something I know nothing about executing, I can't see why not. Probably better answered by someone who makes the modifications, I just buy the keyboard

Joe

The reason to ask that is to focus the discussion in the original question about alternative layouts. It seems only Maltron's requires also hardware, so that should be clear for the original poster.

shaaniqbal · « **Reply #75 on:** Sun, 05 January 2014, 20:03:17 »

The original poster asked "now i want try switch layout again but colemak/maltron or others?" So it's possible they already had the Maltron keyboard in mind. Proword/Joe was just responding to that.

Proword · « **Reply #76 on:** Sun, 05 January 2014, 20:04:50 »

Quote from: ideus on Sun, 05 January 2014, 19:57:38

The reason to ask that is to focus the discussion in the original question about alternative layouts. It seems only Maltron's requires also hardware, so that should be clear for the original poster.

That was made quite clear very early in the thread, by Tony.

Joe

ideus · « **Reply #77 on:** Sun, 05 January 2014, 20:05:45 »

Quote from: ideus on Sun, 05 January 2014, 19:57:38

Quote from: Proword on Sun, 05 January 2014, 19:28:14
Quote from: ideus on Sun, 05 January 2014, 19:19:22

Could the Maltron layout be implemented on an standard ANSI keyboard?

Whilst it's something I know nothing about executing, I can't see why not. Probably better answered by someone who makes the modifications, I just buy the keyboard

Joe

Alright.

ksweber · « **Reply #78 on:** Thu, 24 April 2014, 14:40:41 »

I have made some analysis with Malt which I would like to share here. It confirms the numbers of Lilian Malt from her articles and gives a very compact overview on this keyboard layout:

malt90en 250.033 total costs 139.289 layout costs left right
0.583 same finger 12.373 Shift-same finger up 6.8 8.3
qpycb vmuzl 54.056 hand alternatio 46.374 Shift-hand alternatio mi 25.2 25.2
anisf dthor 0.935 in-/outward 5.675 IndirSame finger dw 4.8 3.9
,.jg/ ;wk-x 24.922 adjacent 11.062 Shift-adjacent sum 46.6 53.4
e 8.7 8.3 7.3 12.5 9.7 | 16.1 14.7 6.7 6.2 9.7 Sh 1.0 1.4
same finger 0.02 0.00 0.01 0.23 0.00 0.00 0.10 0.10 0.01 0.10 Sh 5.69 6.69
""line switch.>=2 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.01 0.00 0.00 Sh 0.00 2.29
adjacent 2.93 3.29 3.89 4.79 0.00 0.00 5.48 1.70 2.85 Sh 1.72 9.34
""line switch.>=2 0.00 0.00 0.02 4.26 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 Sh 0.10 0.06

9.7% of the key presses are on the letter 'e' and 16.1% are spaces. As you can see most work is done by the index fingers with 12.5% and 14.7%. the other fingers have a nice similar distibution of load of about 6-8%. Usage of the bottom row is minimised and the balance between both hands is equal 36.8%:37.4% if we do not count the thumbs percentages (e=9.7%,space=16.1%).

The extremly few same finger movements are distributed mostly on the left index finger and the right index, middle and pinky.

Malt is supporting equal outbound and inbound rolls when typing bigramms (ratio=0,9) one handed. Hand alternation ratio is about 54%.

Using adjacent fingers for typing successive characters is hard for outer fingers. Index finger and middle fingers are capable of such adjacent keystrokes. With Malt the adjacent usage of finger is not prevented by typing bigrams by different hands:

left pinky/left ring finger : 2.93%
left ring finger/left middle finger: 3.29%
right pinky/right ring finger : 2.85%
right ring finger/right middle finger: 1.7%

The following image shows arcs between keys if bigrams are typed one handed. The more often a bigram occurs the thicker the line is. Here you can see very good the involvement of outer fingers on adjacent key strokes. I.e. for AN, IN. Vertical arcs are showing same finger movements (i.e. SC).

jacobolus · « **Reply #79 on:** Sat, 26 April 2014, 06:16:45 »

The Carpalx guy done a lot of work, to be sure, but the scoring system of his model seems pretty arbitrary, and there seem to be pretty strong assumptions baked in about how someone uses a keyboard which don’t necessarily match real-world practice. I don’t trust it to yield particularly “ideal” layouts in terms of efficiency, hand comfort, accuracy, etc.

I really like both the physical layout and the character layout of the Maltron keyboard, and though I think it’s probably possible to do better with a DIY hobby project, it’s just about the best thing commercially available. Not the most portable though. (Also, not my favorite keyswitches.) I also think Dvorak is a reasonable step in the right direction, but basing it on the physical layout of a standard Sholes keyboard has some big disadvantages.

Snarfangel · « **Reply #80 on:** Sat, 26 April 2014, 10:51:50 »

Disclaimer: This is a incredibly alpha-test work in progress! You may permanently mangle your hands beyond recognition if you try it out!

Now that that's out of the way...

...playing around with the MTGAP/Keyboard Layout Optimizer software (from Michael D. -- his last name gets whacked by the swearing filter, link here: http://mathematicalmulticore.wordpress.com/ ) and heavily tweaking it with the Keyboard Layout Analyzer (here: http://patorjk.com/keyboard-layout-analyzer/#/config ), I'm looking at something similar to the following, if you imagine a number pad between the left and right hands. I'm using a programmable Cherry POS keyboard that I will make key legends for as soon as I am satisfied with it.

Here is something similar, using the Keyboard Layout Analyzer's Ergodox template.

Basic American PC.

English/Spanish/German (maybe others) plus all of the stuff I could think of.

I hope that posted something resembling what I expect. I may have to edit if I messed it up.

edit note: Oops, left a couple of AltGr items in the basic one. Oh well, I'm too lazy to fix it just for that.

ksweber · « **Reply #81 on:** Sat, 26 April 2014, 23:46:01 »

Quote from: Snarfangel on Sat, 26 April 2014, 10:51:50

Disclaimer: This is a incredibly alpha-test work in progress! You may permanently mangle your hands beyond recognition if you try it out!

For those who do not want to try it out I pictured the left hand situation:

ksweber · « **Reply #82 on:** Sun, 27 April 2014, 00:02:59 »

But to become serious on multilingual keyboard layouts, I want to correct the following assumption:

Quote from: yasuo on Tue, 31 December 2013, 03:07:35

Neo, AdNW not english how to can compare? CMIIW

Neo was optimised for german language, while AdNW was optimised for the english AND german language.

How good AdNW is beating for the english language compared to other popular layouts you can compare on http://patorjk.com/keyboard-layout-analyzer/#/config (AdNW is listed as 'Aus der Neo-Welt' there)

Snarfangel · « **Reply #83 on:** Sun, 27 April 2014, 00:36:07 »

Quote from: ksweber on Sat, 26 April 2014, 23:46:01

Quote from: Snarfangel on Sat, 26 April 2014, 10:51:50
Disclaimer: This is a incredibly alpha-test work in progress! You may permanently mangle your hands beyond recognition if you try it out!

For those who do not want to try it out I pictured the left hand situation:
(Attachment Link)

That looks cool!

In case anyone is interested, I can see if one of the attachment options will let me attach the layouts for the two images above to play with them on the patorjk.com website (since he is behind submissions

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ksweber · « **Reply #84 on:** Sun, 27 April 2014, 01:49:01 »

Quote from: Snarfangel on Sun, 27 April 2014, 00:36:07

That looks cool!

Thanks. This one hand movement visualisation is much more expressive than the heat map on patorjk.com.

YOR UIAN Mini has very good ratings on http://patorjk.com. It is hand balanced and has few adjacent fingers usage on outer fingers BUT an overload of adjacent keystrokes on left index and left middle finger.

How does it feel to type the bigrams OR, AR, AN, ON and NR?

Snarfangel · « **Reply #85 on:** Sun, 27 April 2014, 08:41:55 »

Quote from: ksweber on Sun, 27 April 2014, 01:49:01

Quote from: Snarfangel on Sun, 27 April 2014, 00:36:07
That looks cool!
Thanks. This one hand movement visualisation is much more expressive than the heat map on patorjk.com.

YOR UIAN Mini has very good ratings on http://patorjk.com. It is hand balanced and has few adjacent fingers usage on outer fingers BUT an overload of adjacent keystrokes on left index and left middle finger.

How does it feel to type the bigrams OR, AR, AN, ON and NR?

Right now I am using a TypeMatrix with a QWERTY format, but it's like typing ER, DR, DF, and FR on that (should be similar on a standard, staggered keyboard). NR isn't a very common digram in English, though.

And you are right about a lot of adjacent keystrokes put on index and middle fingers, but I have found that I often like alternating digrams between hands more than alternating letters, especially on those two fingers. If you compare typing "the" and "her" on a keyboard, for example, the latter is more fun for me. I would have picked two words with four or six letters to compare, but QWERTY has a dearth of those that you can type with just the index and pointer fingers. Three letters with one hand, though, is generally not as fun as two for me, probably because I have to use one of my less agile fingers in the sequence, or because I need to use the same finger more than once in the sequence.

In addition, I prefer my typing to "roll in" to the center -- middle finger, followed by index finger -- rather than vice versa. I have heard others have expressed similar preferences about inward rolls, and for me it is definitely true. I tried to select for that (which is why I put N and R under the left index finger -- IN/AN/ON/UN/OR/AR are just so common in English!). Just my opinion, and your mileage may vary, of course!

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