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Re: SPRIT Model 1 PCBs : 60% 75% 87% 100% : ANSI+ISO (Start 09:00~)
« Reply #50 on: Wed, 06 November 2013, 20:53:29 »
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Re: SPRIT Model 1 PCBs : 60% 75% 87% 100% : ANSI+ISO (Start 09:00~)
« Reply #51 on: Wed, 06 November 2013, 20:53:50 »
* Plates :  GH Phantom Style  will show soon at the reasonable price!      Acrylic  ~15 USD,  Metal ~35 USD

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will the metal plate be anodized alu, sprit ? :p
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Re: SPRIT Model 1 PCBs : 60% 75% 87% 100% : ANSI+ISO (Start 09:00~)
« Reply #52 on: Wed, 06 November 2013, 21:32:45 »
* Plates :  GH Phantom Style  will show soon at the reasonable price!      Acrylic  ~15 USD,  Metal ~35 USD

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTY8H7zjdtc

will the metal plate be anodized alu, sprit ? :p
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Re: SPRIT Model 1 PCBs : 60% 75% 87% 100% : ANSI+ISO (Start 09:00~)
« Reply #53 on: Wed, 06 November 2013, 22:21:41 »
Sprit, you accidentally added a 1 to my name for the 75%, and made "?'s" 75% 0 instead. Is this just a rough check on what's of interest to reech MOQ? Having a public Google doc could result in trolly edits to orders.
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Re: SPRIT Model 1 PCBs : 60% 75% 87% 100% : ANSI+ISO (Start 09:00~)
« Reply #54 on: Wed, 06 November 2013, 22:32:16 »
Sprit, you accidentally added a 1 to my name for the 75%, and made "?'s" 75% 0 instead. Is this just a rough check on what's of interest to reech MOQ? Having a public Google doc could result in trolly edits to orders.
Good Evening Zeal!!  Multipul Auto BackUps in progress.

Yes Right!   I need just a Free Reservation Sum for the Factories to be Ready, and settle the Production Schedule.
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Re: SPRIT Model 1 PCBs : 60% 75% 87% 100% : ANSI+ISO (Start 09:00~)
« Reply #55 on: Wed, 06 November 2013, 23:32:01 »
When is this group buy open till?

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Re: SPRIT Model 1 PCBs : 60% 75% 87% 100% : ANSI+ISO (Start 09:00~)
« Reply #56 on: Wed, 06 November 2013, 23:44:44 »
I signed up for 2 60%s :D can't wait!@!@!@!

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Re: SPRIT Model 1 PCBs : 60% 75% 87% 100% : ANSI+ISO (Start 09:00~)
« Reply #57 on: Thu, 07 November 2013, 00:47:13 »
When is this group buy open till?

This is the Schedule !

1st   week    : Reservation     :    MOQ = 50 +50 +50 +50 .
2nd  week    : Payment         :    2nd Reservation & Payment    MOQ = 50
3rd   weeK    : Production      :   2nd  Production 
4th   week    : Production      :    2nd  Production 
5th   week    : Delivery         :    Delivery   

6th   week    : Delivery         :    Delivery 
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Re: SPRIT Model 1 PCBs : 60% 75% 87% 110% : ANSI+ISO (Start 09:00~)
« Reply #58 on: Thu, 07 November 2013, 02:17:56 »

Updated :

SPRIT  Model 1  :  PCBs    60%  75%  87~94%  110%  :  ANSI+ISO  Full LED + Macro

                        42984-0    *110%  PCB :  Left Num Pad + F1~F12 Column + Macro Keys
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Re: SPRIT Model 1 : PCBs 60% 75% 87% 110% : ANSI+ISO (Full LED + HW Macro)
« Reply #59 on: Thu, 07 November 2013, 03:21:46 »
Sprit, you accidentally added a 1 to my name for the 75%, and made "?'s" 75% 0 instead. Is this just a rough check on what's of interest to reech MOQ? Having a public Google doc could result in trolly edits to orders.

Same happened to me, I'm in for 2 x 75% and the doc had me at 0.  Changed it back.

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Re: SPRIT Model 1 : PCBs 60% 75% 87% 110% : ANSI+ISO (Full LED + HW Macro)
« Reply #60 on: Thu, 07 November 2013, 04:06:56 »
Ok! I will keep my eyes on it ! 

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Re: SPRIT Model 1 : PCBs 60% 75% 87% 110% : ANSI+ISO (Full LED + HW Macro)
« Reply #61 on: Thu, 07 November 2013, 04:32:14 »
no worries and thanks for answering! :)
so meaning we'll have to change the resistors ourselves if there is different mix of led voltage?

my question was avoided or missed out? :(

question: since all resistors are presoldered, will having mix of different voltage LEDs be safe?
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Different resistors for different foreword voltages. Every color requires a different voltage and therefor will require a different amount of resistance. It's also worth noting that not all LEDs are made with the same foreword voltage from one company to the next i.e blue LEDs from company A may require different resistance than blue LEDs from company B.
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Re: SPRIT Model 1 : PCBs 60% 75% 87% 110% : ANSI+ISO (Full LED + HW Macro)
« Reply #62 on: Thu, 07 November 2013, 04:39:17 »
 
The LED Test           P = E/s = J/s ... = VI = I2R = V2/R ...  PV=nRT      Let the Water Flow to a Ocean.

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Re: SPRIT Model 1 : PCBs 60% 75% 87% 110% : ANSI+ISO (Full LED + HW Macro)
« Reply #63 on: Thu, 07 November 2013, 07:07:26 »
no worries and thanks for answering! :)
so meaning we'll have to change the resistors ourselves if there is different mix of led voltage?

my question was avoided or missed out? :(

question: since all resistors are presoldered, will having mix of different voltage LEDs be safe?
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Different resistors for different foreword voltages. Every color requires a different voltage and therefor will require a different amount of resistance. It's also worth noting that not all LEDs are made with the same foreword voltage from one company to the next i.e blue LEDs from company A may require different resistance than blue LEDs from company B.

So what happens on those boards that have half a dozen different colors :o

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Re: SPRIT Model 1 : PCBs 60% 75% 87% 110% : ANSI+ISO (Full LED + HW Macro)
« Reply #64 on: Thu, 07 November 2013, 07:21:33 »
no worries and thanks for answering! :)
so meaning we'll have to change the resistors ourselves if there is different mix of led voltage?

my question was avoided or missed out? :(

question: since all resistors are presoldered, will having mix of different voltage LEDs be safe?
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Different resistors for different foreword voltages. Every color requires a different voltage and therefor will require a different amount of resistance. It's also worth noting that not all LEDs are made with the same foreword voltage from one company to the next i.e blue LEDs from company A may require different resistance than blue LEDs from company B.

So what happens on those boards that have half a dozen different colors :o

I'd like some clarifications on this as well.
Cause I've applied some leds on my Poker 2. The red leds is relatively dimmer than the rest on full brightness.
Would this be an issue for this pcb as well ?
Not that I'd the dimness matters since I won't be putting leds on the whole board. :D
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Re: SPRIT Model 1 : PCBs 60% 75% 87% 110% : ANSI+ISO (Full LED + HW Macro)
« Reply #65 on: Thu, 07 November 2013, 07:32:40 »
As an Engineer in the Electonics for 20 years,  I'd like say 1.8~2.2V and 2.8~3.2V 
are quite enough for LEDs on keyboards

Red LEDs are .....than white LEDs.
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Re: SPRIT Model 1 : PCBs 60% 75% 87% 110% : ANSI+ISO (Full LED + HW Macro)
« Reply #66 on: Thu, 07 November 2013, 07:37:46 »
As an Engineer in the Electonics for 20 years,  I'd like say 1.8~2.2V   and 2.8~3.2V 
are quite enough for LEDs on keyboards

Red LEDs are .....than white LEDs.

..... ?

Actually the dimness doesn't concern me. I'm more afraid something will break inside the pcb :x
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Re: SPRIT Model 1 : PCBs 60% 75% 87% 110% : ANSI+ISO (Full LED + HW Macro)
« Reply #67 on: Thu, 07 November 2013, 07:45:38 »
No worries ! My Brother!  Dimmer, Better life, longer Life ~~

... dimmer ....

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Re: SPRIT Model 1 : PCBs 60% 75% 87% 110% : ANSI+ISO (Full LED + HW Macro)
« Reply #68 on: Thu, 07 November 2013, 08:53:55 »
I froze the first row on both your spreadsheets, will make it easier for people to know which column they are filling out now that you have so many orders. Hope you don't mind.

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Re: SPRIT Model 1 : PCBs 60% 75% 87% 110% : ANSI+ISO (Full LED + HW Macro)
« Reply #69 on: Thu, 07 November 2013, 09:34:35 »
Thank You for Your advice!

Basicallly You can put down on any blank Row.

If two person try to fill the same row at the same time, It will freeze,,,  collide.

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Re: SPRIT Model 1 : PCBs 60% 75% 87% 110% : ANSI+ISO (Full LED + HW Macro)
« Reply #70 on: Thu, 07 November 2013, 09:40:16 »
oh ya, the different voltage of led will definitely show different level of brightness.
i guess we could desolder the resistor(s) and put in a suitable one for different led?
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Re: SPRIT Model 1 : PCBs 60% 75% 87% 110% : ANSI+ISO (Full LED + HW Macro)
« Reply #71 on: Thu, 07 November 2013, 09:52:16 »
In for one 60% PCB.  Will there be a separate GB for plates?

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« Reply #72 on: Thu, 07 November 2013, 10:06:56 »
87~94% TKL?
What's 94%TKL?
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Re: SPRIT Model 1 : PCBs 60% 75% 87% 110% : ANSI+ISO (Full LED + HW Macro)
« Reply #73 on: Thu, 07 November 2013, 10:24:59 »
87~94% TKL?
What's 94%TKL?
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« Reply #74 on: Thu, 07 November 2013, 10:36:26 »
87~94% TKL?
What's 94%TKL?
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Re: SPRIT Model 1 : PCBs 60% 75% 87% 110% : ANSI+ISO (Full LED + HW Macro)
« Reply #75 on: Thu, 07 November 2013, 10:41:58 »
Si Si !! Pasph,   Profesore Mio ! :-*

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Re: SPRIT Model 1 : PCBs 60% 75% 87% 110% : ANSI+ISO (Full LED + HW Macro)
« Reply #76 on: Thu, 07 November 2013, 11:04:16 »
One 75% PCB for me. Unfortunately don't have time or need for more.

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Re: SPRIT Model 1 : PCBs 60% 75% 87% 110% : ANSI+ISO (Full LED + HW Macro)
« Reply #77 on: Thu, 07 November 2013, 13:27:42 »
*All PCBs are  1.6T Thick PCB, ANSI+ISO, All and All ! SMDs are Factory pre-soldered, the latest Firmware and KeyMap loaded and Tested.
  100% Red Alert! Ready for the Full Functionality. 
Excellent!

Now I've made it no secret I'm disappointed with the KMAC's programming (some options, like toggle function keys is listed as an option, but doesnt' actually work)  and I'm worried about other upcoming PCB programming. I like how this comes with a working firmware preinstalled (very good for testing!) but I'm interested to know how to reprogram it? I'm okay with updating a file, recompiling firmware (As long as you tell me what libraries I'll need) or using a GUI, I just want it to be possible to reprogram and support for features.

Thanks for bringing us these excellent designs!

I notice some features are listed on the website
http://winkeyless.kr/entry/ps2avrU

PS/2 and USB, and it sues the capslock LED to tell you information about it. Nice!
you can choose which one by holding P or U at plug in. Nice!
Support for several LED modes and brightness control. Essential!
Sleep mode for power saving on USB. Thoughtful!
Three layers. Enough for me!

But I don't know korean:
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Re: SPRIT Model 1 : PCBs 60% 75% 87% 110% : ANSI+ISO (Full LED + HW Macro)
« Reply #78 on: Thu, 07 November 2013, 13:41:35 »
looking for the plate for 75%
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Re: SPRIT Model 1 : PCBs 60% 75% 87% 110% : ANSI+ISO (Full LED + HW Macro)
« Reply #79 on: Thu, 07 November 2013, 15:20:53 »
I'm in for two PCBs.

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Re: SPRIT Model 1 : PCBs 60% 75% 87% 110% : ANSI+ISO (Full LED + HW Macro)
« Reply #80 on: Thu, 07 November 2013, 15:57:24 »
No worries ! My Brother!  Dimmer, Better life, longer Life ~~

... dimmer ....

ah... alright then.
thanks for clearing that up.
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Re: SPRIT Model 1 : PCBs 60% 75% 87% 110% : ANSI+ISO (Full LED + HW Macro)
« Reply #81 on: Thu, 07 November 2013, 19:15:25 »
What if I want to change my reservation/order? Edit the original cells or type in a new row?
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« Reply #82 on: Thu, 07 November 2013, 19:20:57 »
What if I want to change my reservation/order? Edit the original cells or type in a new row?
Edit original cells.

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Re: SPRIT Model 1 : PCBs 60% 75% 87% 110% : ANSI+ISO (Full LED + HW Macro)
« Reply #83 on: Thu, 07 November 2013, 19:44:15 »
As an Engineer in the Electonics for 20 years,  I'd like say 1.8~2.2V   and 2.8~3.2V 
are quite enough for LEDs on keyboards

Red LEDs are .....than white LEDs.

..... ?

Actually the dimness doesn't concern me. I'm more afraid something will break inside the pcb :x
Dimmer is fine. Problems will occur when too much voltage is fed to an LED. This will cause them to burn out. The PCB should be fine. Also every LED has its own resistor, so multi-colored boards require a different resistor for each switch with a different color. If you want uniform brightness for all your colors, you will need to do the calculations and ensure that your resistors are supplying each LED with the proper voltage they are designed for.
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Re: SPRIT Model 1 : PCBs 60% 75% 87% 110% : ANSI+ISO (Full LED + HW Macro)
« Reply #84 on: Thu, 07 November 2013, 19:58:47 »
Dimmer is fine. Problems will occur when too much voltage is fed to an LED. This will cause them to burn out. The PCB should be fine. Also every LED has its own resistor, so multi-colored boards require a different resistor for each switch with a different color. If you want uniform brightness for all your colors, you will need to do the calculations and ensure that your resistors are supplying each LED with the proper voltage they are designed for.

LEDs are (basically) constant voltage devices. They burn out when too much current flows through them.

Multi colored boards require a different resistor for LED's of a different forward voltage drop (Vf). If you look for LEDs online you will see many have the same or similar Vf's. Some LEDs are white and tinted to get the desired colour.

Uniform brightness calculations are somewhat more difficult than that, as you have to look up the datasheet for each different LED, then calculate a resistance value so it outputs the same amount of lm as the others. Then you need to find a resistor close enough to that ideal value that it'll look the same. Since they are different coulours, you can be off by quite a bit and it'll still look good (probably 10-20% or so, depending if you are examining perceived intensity or absolute brightness, since the eyes operate on a logarithmic scale)

Just wanted to clear some stuff up before anyone got the wrong idea.

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Re: SPRIT Model 1 : PCBs 60% 75% 87% 110% : ANSI+ISO (Full LED + HW Macro)
« Reply #85 on: Thu, 07 November 2013, 20:14:12 »
With my narrow Perspectives, I'd like to say :

Stability, Longevity, Diversity, Optimizing.... for LEDs are required....  As Tastes differ,   

I need a Final Consult to My GH Experts Group for the Last Final Settings for LEDs. 
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Re: SPRIT Model 1 : PCBs 60% 75% 87% 110% : ANSI+ISO (Full LED + HW Macro)
« Reply #86 on: Thu, 07 November 2013, 20:23:12 »
As an Engineer in the Electonics for 20 years,  I'd like say 1.8~2.2V   and 2.8~3.2V 
are quite enough for LEDs on keyboards

Red LEDs are .....than white LEDs.

..... ?

Actually the dimness doesn't concern me. I'm more afraid something will break inside the pcb :x
Dimmer is fine. Problems will occur when too much voltage is fed to an LED. This will cause them to burn out. The PCB should be fine. Also every LED has its own resistor, so multi-colored boards require a different resistor for each switch with a different color. If you want uniform brightness for all your colors, you will need to do the calculations and ensure that your resistors are supplying each LED with the proper voltage they are designed for.

Yeah, I've read there somewhere before.
thanks for clearing that up.
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Re: SPRIT Model 1 : PCBs 60% 75% 87% 110% : ANSI+ISO (Full LED + HW Macro)
« Reply #87 on: Thu, 07 November 2013, 20:26:29 »
Btw, regarding the plates, will it be a uTKL plate ? Like the ones we can swap out stems without desoldering ? and do we order it separately ? thanks sprit. again ^_^
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Re: SPRIT Model 1 : PCBs 60% 75% 87% 110% : ANSI+ISO (Full LED + HW Macro)
« Reply #88 on: Thu, 07 November 2013, 20:34:01 »
Btw, regarding the plates, will it be a uTKL plate ? Like the ones we can swap out stems without desoldering ? and do we order it separately ? thanks sprit. again ^_^
I will provide GH Phantom style Plates :  IMO,  The Best thing in the World!

I will open Plate order form in 1st page of this GB.

* Plates :  GH Phantom Style  will show soon in this page, at a reasonable price!    Acrylic ~15 USD,  Metal ~35 USD   Made in Seoul, Korea
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Re: SPRIT Model 1 : PCBs 60% 75% 87% 110% : ANSI+ISO (Full LED + HW Macro)
« Reply #89 on: Thu, 07 November 2013, 22:03:08 »
I want to run the values I calculated by people here to make sure they make sense.
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all keyboards should work fine with 1500 ohm resistors
Example red LED Vf 1.5V
Example blue LED Vf 3.2V
The entire matrix is to be kept under 300 mA and 1500 mW to leave 200 mA or 1000 mW for the controller (just a guess)

Resistor value (1500 ohm)
Compatible PCBs (110%, TKL, 75%, 660%)
Red LED current (2.5 mA)
Blue LED current (1.3 mA)

Red total power (1417.5 mW) for 110%


Resistor value (1200 Ohm)
Compatible PCBs (TKL, 75%, 60%)
Red LED current (3 mA)
Blue LED Current (1.5 mA)

Red total power (1331 mW) for 80%


Resistor Value (1000 Ohm)
Compatible PCBs (75%, 60%)
Red LED current (3.6 mA)
Blue LED Current (2 mA)

Red total power (1377 mW) for 75%
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Note, the above assumes the controller will need 200 mA (or 1000 mW) to work. This is just a guess.

Do these numbers look right?

also:
* Plates :  GH Phantom Style  will show soon in this page, at the reasonable price!    Acrylic ~15 USD,  Metal ~35 USD   Made in Seoul, Korea

Are the metal plates aluminium or steel? I prefer steel (very solid), but I know some people like to anodyze their aluminium plates.
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Re: SPRIT Model 1 : PCBs 60% 75% 87% 110% : ANSI+ISO (Full LED + HW Macro)
« Reply #90 on: Thu, 07 November 2013, 22:07:06 »
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Re: SPRIT Model 1 : PCBs 60% 75% 87% 110% : ANSI+ISO (Full LED + HW Macro)
« Reply #91 on: Thu, 07 November 2013, 23:16:54 »
I love you too  ^-^

Somehow my name had a 75% next to it ... I changed it to just 2 60%s!

sorry if i messed anything up

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Re: SPRIT Model 1 : PCBs 60% 75% 87% 110% : ANSI+ISO (Full LED + HW Macro)
« Reply #92 on: Fri, 08 November 2013, 02:27:01 »
I want to run the values I calculated by people here to make sure they make sense.
Quote
all keyboards should work fine with 1500 ohm resistors
Example red LED Vf 1.5V
Example blue LED Vf 3.2V
The entire matrix is to be kept under 300 mA and 1500 mW to leave 200 mA or 1000 mW for the controller (just a guess)

Resistor value (1500 ohm)
Compatible PCBs (110%, TKL, 75%, 660%)
Red LED current (2.5 mA)
Blue LED current (1.3 mA)

Red total power (1417.5 mW) for 110%


Resistor value (1200 Ohm)
Compatible PCBs (TKL, 75%, 60%)
Red LED current (3 mA)
Blue LED Current (1.5 mA)

Red total power (1331 mW) for 80%


Resistor Value (1000 Ohm)
Compatible PCBs (75%, 60%)
Red LED current (3.6 mA)
Blue LED Current (2 mA)

Red total power (1377 mW) for 75%
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Note, the above assumes the controller will need 200 mA (or 1000 mW) to work. This is just a guess.

Alaricljs taught me to aim for 3.0mA for LEDs and to never exceed 3.4mA to be safe. He gave me this handy link to make the calculations a breeze.
www.ledcalc.com
My hope is that this will help some people out who want to customize these PCBs or get into building custom backlit keyboards who have little to no experience in electronics. I used this for my LZGH.

The link will require you to fill in the following fields:

- Supply voltage = 5v (? See Note below)
- Voltage drop across = Each LED has a foreword voltage range that you can find in the item description on eBay etc. Use the lower end of the range to start with. 
- Desired current = 3.0mA - 3.4mA
Number of LEDs connected = 1 (Since they are all fed individually)

When you hit calculate it will provide you with the nearest higher rated resistor. This is what you will need to buy. It will also show you the circuits total current consumption which should be close to what you entered as your desired current. (3.0mA - 3.4mA) This is for bright LEDs within a safe operating range. 3.4mA being brighter than 3.0mA of course.

NOTE: One thing I don't know is if all keyboards provide the same supply voltage. My LZGH was 5v. Are they all different? Can anyone answer this for me?

Anyway, playing around with this LED calculator should give you specific resistor values for all your keyboard building needs!

I hope this isn't derailing this thread too much. It is relevant after all.
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Re: SPRIT Model 1 : PCBs 60% 75% 87% 110% : ANSI+ISO (Full LED + HW Macro)
« Reply #93 on: Fri, 08 November 2013, 03:28:24 »
Thank You Very Much,  YoungMichael88 !!  Sir!

I Really Appreciate Your Advice!   Give me some Ideas for the Harmony of  LEDs !  Plz!

I Love You and GH !   :thumb:   I am definetly not a gay,  but lots of gay girl fr... (What I am saying??  왓 암 쌔잉??   뤼 오빠 나오세요!   씨러씨러 베리 하드)  :-X
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Re: SPRIT Model 1 : PCBs 60% 75% 87% 110% : ANSI+ISO (Full LED + HW Macro)
« Reply #94 on: Fri, 08 November 2013, 11:21:19 »
Thank You Very Much,  YoungMichael88 !!  Sir!

I Really Appreciate Your Advice!   Give me some Ideas for the Harmony of  LEDs !  Plz!

I Love You and GH !   :thumb:   I am definetly not a gay,  but lots of gay girl fr... (What I am saying??  왓 암 쌔잉??   뤼 오빠 나오세요!   씨러씨러 베리 하드)  :-X

Never change sprit, your posts are so entertaining :P
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Re: SPRIT Model 1 : PCBs 60% 75% 87% 110% : ANSI+ISO (Full LED + HW Macro)
« Reply #95 on: Fri, 08 November 2013, 13:04:00 »
change of plans, sorry.
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Re: SPRIT Model 1 : PCBs 60% 75% 87% 110% : ANSI+ISO (Full LED + HW Macro)
« Reply #96 on: Fri, 08 November 2013, 13:06:20 »
In for a 60% and a 100% PCB. Interested in plates as well.

Thanks !
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Re: SPRIT Model 1 : PCBs 60% 75% 87% 110% : ANSI+ISO (Full LED + HW Macro)
« Reply #97 on: Fri, 08 November 2013, 15:10:39 »
I am also wondering about reprogramming.  What controller does it use?  Is firmware open source?

I have been hoping for another GH60 group buy.  Should I pull the trigger on this one instead?  What are the cons of this compared to GH60?

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Re: SPRIT Model 1 : PCBs 60% 75% 87% 110% : ANSI+ISO (Full LED + HW Macro)
« Reply #98 on: Fri, 08 November 2013, 16:44:34 »
Sprit, do you have a photo or at least schematic of the final TKL PCB? thanks.

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Re: SPRIT Model 1 : PCBs 60% 75% 87% 110% : ANSI+ISO (Full LED + HW Macro)
« Reply #99 on: Fri, 08 November 2013, 16:49:07 »
Sprit, do you have a photo or at least schematic of the final TKL PCB? thanks.

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