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Re: [CM Storm] Mechanical Key Switch Tester Now Available for Pre-Order
« Reply #100 on: Mon, 09 December 2013, 22:09:37 »
Got mine to sadly the white doesn't click!

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« Reply #101 on: Mon, 09 December 2013, 22:10:26 »
Are you talking about the Clear? :)
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« Reply #102 on: Mon, 09 December 2013, 22:11:33 »
Are you talking about the Clear? :)

Doh! I thought it was white.....I'm such a noob....I didn't pop the cap off..


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« Reply #103 on: Mon, 09 December 2013, 22:23:12 »
can you actually visually tell a clear and a white apart?
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« Reply #104 on: Mon, 09 December 2013, 22:26:59 »
can you actually visually tell a clear and a white apart?

yes you can, clear is translucent and white is fully opaque white. It's fairly easy to tell.

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« Reply #105 on: Mon, 09 December 2013, 22:29:17 »
Got mine today.  What did you guys use to get the top off?  I kinda scratched up my credit card and it still didn't open.  I notice that the green switch on this feels lighter than on the QFR with greens I bought then returned.  I didn't like the one I returned because I thought those green switches were too heavy but I do like this one.  It feels just a little stiffer than the blue which is nice.  Could there be a difference between this green spring and the springs in the first batch of QFRs with greens?  I might have to try greens again. 
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« Reply #106 on: Mon, 09 December 2013, 22:39:43 »
can you actually visually tell a clear and a white apart?

yes you can, clear is translucent and white is fully opaque white. It's fairly easy to tell.

can you actually visually tell a clear and a white apart?

Clicky switches also have raised tiny pillars/nubs on the stems.  Nonclicky ones don't.   Here's a photo of MX White from Querkeys:



Blues and Greens have those too.
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« Reply #107 on: Mon, 09 December 2013, 23:34:40 »
Mine was waiting for me when I got home from work. I already took it apart, as well. :)

Woot!

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Re: [CM Storm] Mechanical Key Switch Tester Now Available for Pre-Order
« Reply #108 on: Tue, 10 December 2013, 06:42:01 »
Disassembled

Very cool.

Can anyone comment on whether you can swap the individual switch out.

If it is possible, I might get another one and try to find the other uncommon switches like grey, white, etc and have a complete tester kit.

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« Reply #109 on: Tue, 10 December 2013, 06:57:45 »
Seems like the red and black on this thing feel the same....weird.

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« Reply #110 on: Tue, 10 December 2013, 08:22:41 »
Press slowly!  Red is definitely lighter.  Also interesting how similar Brown and Clear feel.  I used to use Browns for quite a while and now use Clears, and when actually using them on whole boards, they feel quite different.  But as individual switches next to each other, they feel remarkably similar, with Clear being the tougher one.  Pressing each switch slowly helps.  Not that we ever do that while typing.
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« Reply #111 on: Tue, 10 December 2013, 08:44:59 »
Press slowly!  Red is definitely lighter.  Also interesting how similar Brown and Clear feel.  I used to use Browns for quite a while and now use Clears, and when actually using them on whole boards, they feel quite different.  But as individual switches next to each other, they feel remarkably similar, with Clear being the tougher one.  Pressing each switch slowly helps.  Not that we ever do that while typing.

Yeah the tester is cool and all but I hope nobody decides to go buy a keyboard because of it.....I suppose the blues feel about the same compared to a full size board but that's about it.

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« Reply #112 on: Tue, 10 December 2013, 08:50:36 »
Yeah the tester is cool and all but I hope nobody decides to go buy a keyboard because of it....

Seriously. All these testers are by no means a way to feel out what you will actually like/use on an actual board. Like you said, perhaps you can get a slight idea about the sound of a blue switch click... that is it.

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« Reply #113 on: Tue, 10 December 2013, 09:12:40 »
You still get an idea based on comparisons with switches you're familiar with.  Say you've used Blues before--now you can get some idea what Browns are like vs. Blues. etc.  But it's true, typing on a full keyboard of switches quickly is not going to be the same. A lot of the switch nuances blend together at high WPM.
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« Reply #114 on: Tue, 10 December 2013, 09:28:23 »
Received mine as well. Looks good on my desk!

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« Reply #115 on: Tue, 10 December 2013, 09:36:26 »
Yeah the tester is cool and all but I hope nobody decides to go buy a keyboard because of it....

Seriously. All these testers are by no means a way to feel out what you will actually like/use on an actual board. Like you said, perhaps you can get a slight idea about the sound of a blue switch click... that is it.

While I'm sure that's true, it's about the best some of us can hope for. I've felt blues and browns briefly in Best Buy on a Razer and Logitech they had set up on display, and browns on the Quickfire Ultimate I bought (and used for about a week but didn't like, though not because of the switches), but I have no other way of testing out an entire keyboard of other switch types. So while this tester may not be perfect, it's definitely a lot better than trying to interpret other people's written descriptions of how a switch feels and making a decision based only on that.

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« Reply #116 on: Tue, 10 December 2013, 10:02:35 »
 Id say that this tester is really all i need for mx switches. blues and greens are exactly as obnoxious as I remembered/imagined. Whats suprising to me though is how much I dislike clears, browns and by extension any other color with a bump. They feel like broken switches to me. They make my fingers sad.

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« Reply #117 on: Tue, 10 December 2013, 10:12:55 »
I do wish they had whites on it, but considering the seeming scarcity of those switches I suppose I can understand why they don't.

I agree with you on the blues/greens kolonel - I like the "snappiness" of them, but the click would just annoy the hell out of me. I do like the browns/clears better than the linears, though. Maybe it's just too many years spent on rubber domes, but I like some sort of feedback.

That's why I'm interested in whites - it seems like they might be closer to the snappiness of blues/greens, but without the click.

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« Reply #118 on: Tue, 10 December 2013, 11:03:11 »
Just an FYI, this is now available for pre-order in Europe :)

 http://www.cmstore.eu/cm-storm/keyboards/mechanical-key-switch-tester/
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« Reply #119 on: Tue, 10 December 2013, 15:09:17 »
Just an FYI, this is now available for pre-order in Europe :)

 http://www.cmstore.eu/cm-storm/keyboards/mechanical-key-switch-tester/

But still not Australia :(

I've arranged mine via a proxy anyway :)

A shame these are not programmable, with a small PCB and USB cable to configure 6 favourite functions (kinda like i3oiler's new business card).
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« Reply #120 on: Tue, 10 December 2013, 16:21:12 »
A shame these are not programmable, with a small PCB and USB cable to configure 6 favourite functions (kinda like i3oiler's new business card).

its not such a big deal to add a teensy. I prefer it this way as it leaves more programming options. plus its hella easy to swap the switches as it sits now.
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« Reply #121 on: Tue, 10 December 2013, 21:14:45 »
I do agree that it can only give a rough idea. I have the keycool mx-blue numpad, and even that doesn't give a good idea of what it actually feels to type on a full board.


its not such a big deal to add a teensy. I prefer it this way as it leaves more programming options. plus its hella easy to swap the switches as it sits now.

Care to explain how to swap the individual switch? From the picture it wasn't clear. It wasn't solder to anything it seems but how does each of them stay in place?

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« Reply #122 on: Tue, 10 December 2013, 21:35:43 »
A shame these are not programmable, with a small PCB and USB cable to configure 6 favourite functions (kinda like i3oiler's new business card).

its not such a big deal to add a teensy. I prefer it this way as it leaves more programming options. plus its hella easy to swap the switches as it sits now.

0.o do you really need those extra keys?

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« Reply #123 on: Tue, 10 December 2013, 21:38:49 »
I do agree that it can only give a rough idea. I have the keycool mx-blue numpad, and even that doesn't give a good idea of what it actually feels to type on a full board.


its not such a big deal to add a teensy. I prefer it this way as it leaves more programming options. plus its hella easy to swap the switches as it sits now.

Care to explain how to swap the individual switch? From the picture it wasn't clear. It wasn't solder to anything it seems but how does each of them stay in place?

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I didn't open mine up but I'm assuming they are just stuck in a plate...so just pop them out from the bottom.

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« Reply #124 on: Tue, 10 December 2013, 23:51:11 »
You can pull the switches w/o opening it. Push the small tabs on top & bottom of the switch w/ a small screwdriver into the switch (helps if you have a loose switch to see what I mean ;)) -- they pop right out.

The main problem w/ adding a Teensy is finding a place to stash it w/o messing w/ the standoffs too much. I think I found a place, the next problem will be to cut the hole for the USB connector. I'll post some pics if I get it to work.
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« Reply #125 on: Tue, 10 December 2013, 23:59:20 »
You can pull the switches w/o opening it. Push the small tabs on top & bottom of the switch w/ a small screwdriver into the switch (helps if you have a loose switch to see what I mean ;)) -- they pop right out.

The main problem w/ adding a Teensy is finding a place to stash it w/o messing w/ the standoffs too much. I think I found a place, the next problem will be to cut the hole for the USB connector. I'll post some pics if I get it to work.

This could get very intresting!
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« Reply #126 on: Wed, 11 December 2013, 17:11:20 »
Stuck at home due to snow -- my soldering stuff is at work :( Since I'm bored I took a picture of how I think the Teensy will go in there:



Advantage is that everything is together on the same part, makes testing and taking it apart a breeze. The hole for the USB connector on the lower half of the shell will be easy to add, the one one the upper half will be a PITA. The only other modification necessary is shortening the standoff that interferes w/ the Teensy, should be easy to do w/ a large drill since it's hollow.

And yes, those wires are LED's, same as in the testing rig I posted a pic of a little while ago :)

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« Reply #127 on: Sat, 14 December 2013, 00:25:00 »
Almost there:

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« Reply #129 on: Sat, 14 December 2013, 01:40:02 »
just got this.  quite neat.  I just realized the ordering technique they used for placing the switches.

also got reminded how great cm does their blue.  it's really different than Ducky's style.
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« Reply #130 on: Sat, 14 December 2013, 01:48:03 »
is it possible to use http://imsto.cn/index.php?route=product/product&path=61&product_id=52 instead of teensy?

No, that seems to be just a breakout board for USB signals (something that could be used to "fix" a USB connector ripped off a controller board.) However, any controller sporting at least 5 available I/O lines (to read the switches) could be used. I use the Teensy because I had one laying around :) Advantage is that each switch can have its own dedicated input and you can hook up 6 LEDs in addition (even high speed PWM driven for brightness control.)
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« Reply #131 on: Sat, 14 December 2013, 02:43:34 »
Almost there:

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Re: [CM Storm] Mechanical Key Switch Tester Now Available for Pre-Order
« Reply #133 on: Sat, 14 December 2013, 22:37:29 »
is it possible to use http://imsto.cn/index.php?route=product/product&path=61&product_id=52 instead of teensy?

No, that seems to be just a breakout board for USB signals (something that could be used to "fix" a USB connector ripped off a controller board.) However, any controller sporting at least 5 available I/O lines (to read the switches) could be used. I use the Teensy because I had one laying around :) Advantage is that each switch can have its own dedicated input and you can hook up 6 LEDs in addition (even high speed PWM driven for brightness control.)

aww. Don't want to spend $20 on a teensy. Are there other things like a teensy that would work?

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Re: [CM Storm] Mechanical Key Switch Tester Now Available for Pre-Order
« Reply #134 on: Sun, 15 December 2013, 00:30:14 »
aww. Don't want to spend $20 on a teensy. Are there other things like a teensy that would work?
yes, but they wont be any cheaper or easier. cheapest option would be to buy the chip, some decoupling caps, and a crystal. wire it up deadbug style.

Ive decided that if I do this, Im going to make it wireless. atmega328p-pu + nrf24whatever in the tester and the teensy+nrf24 connected up to the pc. its too bad all my 3.3v regulators are frikken huge.
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Re: [CM Storm] Mechanical Key Switch Tester Now Available for Pre-Order
« Reply #135 on: Sun, 15 December 2013, 00:40:33 »
Almost there:

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Re: [CM Storm] Mechanical Key Switch Tester Now Available for Pre-Order
« Reply #136 on: Sun, 15 December 2013, 03:37:32 »
Yea, each board they sold came w/ one.
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Re: [CM Storm] Mechanical Key Switch Tester Now Available for Pre-Order
« Reply #137 on: Tue, 17 December 2013, 12:47:05 »
Hm, envisioning a PCB...
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Re: [CM Storm] Mechanical Key Switch Tester Now Available for Pre-Order
« Reply #138 on: Tue, 17 December 2013, 18:40:03 »
in da mail.

@CM - CM Paypal proxy asked for Paypal UN and PW then when I hit the paypal site and I'm asked again for UN and PW???
Are you fishing for Paypal credientials?
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Re: [CM Storm] Mechanical Key Switch Tester Now Available for Pre-Order
« Reply #139 on: Thu, 02 January 2014, 00:24:11 »
Just for the record, final version w/ different caps and the case in place:

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Re: [CM Storm] Mechanical Key Switch Tester Now Available for Pre-Order
« Reply #140 on: Thu, 02 January 2014, 01:15:30 »
Anyone know how to get the $15 off after buying one of these?

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Re: [CM Storm] Mechanical Key Switch Tester Now Available for Pre-Order
« Reply #141 on: Thu, 02 January 2014, 01:35:43 »
Theres a 15$ off?

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Re: [CM Storm] Mechanical Key Switch Tester Now Available for Pre-Order
« Reply #142 on: Thu, 02 January 2014, 01:42:35 »
Just for the record, final version w/ different caps and the case in place:

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Re: [CM Storm] Mechanical Key Switch Tester Now Available for Pre-Order
« Reply #143 on: Thu, 02 January 2014, 02:00:01 »
Theres a 15$ off?

These were advertised as costing $15 but that by purchasing one you also get $15 off a cooler master board purchased from their website.....just not sure how to get the discount.