[IC] Cherry dyesub full sets v4

[BlueBär]

i would love something like this! can it be PBT?

Dyesubs are always PBT.

[IvanIvanovich]

How would you guys feel about using Cherry brand keys? It would be the newer type ones that are a bit thinner same as what is on current G80 production like these

trade off it's cheaper by $8. If really lucky might be able to finally get some ISO kits but no promise.

[BlueBär]

I'd rather pay +8$ for the thicker caps.

[LechnerDE]

I'd rather pay +8$ for the thicker caps.

I agree.

Unless the price is considerably lower (like -50%) I see no reason to even think about thin keycaps.

Well, actually there is no price that is low enough NOT to go for original Cherry thickness

[JaccoW]

How would you guys feel about using Cherry brand keys? It would be the newer type ones that are a bit thinner same as what is on current G80 production like these

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trade off it's cheaper by $8. If really lucky might be able to finally get some ISO kits but no promise.

Well, you could use them to offer some keys that are impossible to get otherwise. Like perhaps G80-18** layouts.
Perhaps we could do a test run with them as a small Mini Pack?

[IvanIvanovich]

Not mini pack, it only come as a whole thing. Basically could get these but as blank so allow to dyesub instead of lasered they usually available.

[SpAmRaY]

What about blank black sets? Would those be POM??

[IvanIvanovich]

Have blank black coming PBT in the previous buy... whenever PLUM finish it. Maybe try with some POM later.

[BlueBär]

Not mini pack, it only come as a whole thing. Basically could get these but as blank so allow to dyesub instead of lasered they usually available.

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Is there any other advantage to it other than the 8$ or that it's "original Cherry"?

[Puddsy]

Not mini pack, it only come as a whole thing. Basically could get these but as blank so allow to dyesub instead of lasered they usually available.

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Is there any other advantage to it other than the 8$ or that it's "original Cherry"?

ISO and WKL kits are possible I think

MOQ might be lower too

[CommonCurt]

How would you guys feel about using Cherry brand keys? It would be the newer type ones that are a bit thinner same as what is on current G80 production like these

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trade off it's cheaper by $8. If really lucky might be able to finally get some ISO kits but no promise.

I do prefer thick PBT, but I would still be interested in some of these.

I wonder if these would play nicer with Costar stabilizers since they are thinner?

[Sent]

I'd rather pay +8$ for the thicker caps.

Same here.

[nubbinator]

I'd rather pay +8$ for the thicker caps.

Agreed.  I have Cherry thin PBT on my work keyboard and it's only okay.  Thick ABS and PBT are both better. 

[Elrick]

Not mini pack, it only come as a whole thing. Basically could get these but as blank so allow to dyesub instead of lasered they usually available.

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If it offers more keys for many type of keyboards then why not?  Only problem because they're thinner walled you might get the PMK problems like what was seen with Granite R1 series.

Deformation is easy and might not be impossible to get rid of.  Having thicker walled keys allows easier dye-sub, like what Imsto provided in his latest BSP sets - they were simply "SUPERB".

[00zeRO]

Not mini pack, it only come as a whole thing. Basically could get these but as blank so allow to dyesub instead of lasered they usually available.

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If it offers more keys for many type of keyboards then why not?  Only problem because they're thinner walled you might get the PMK problems like what was seen with Granite R1 series.

Deformation is easy and might not be impossible to get rid of.  Having thicker walled keys allows easier dye-sub, like what Imsto provided in his latest BSP sets - they were simply "SUPERB".

What kind of problems?

[CommonCurt]

Not mini pack, it only come as a whole thing. Basically could get these but as blank so allow to dyesub instead of lasered they usually available.

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If it offers more keys for many type of keyboards then why not?  Only problem because they're thinner walled you might get the PMK problems like what was seen with Granite R1 series.

Deformation is easy and might not be impossible to get rid of.  Having thicker walled keys allows easier dye-sub, like what Imsto provided in his latest BSP sets - they were simply "SUPERB".

What kind of problems?

I believe Elrick is referring to how some of the Granite R1 caps came out warped.  However I don't think that was solely because they were thin PBT.

[IvanIvanovich]

Unless Cherry has changed it recently, the mods keys are still thicker from the old molds. Only the 1x keys are the thinner type. imsto have dyesubbed some of these before so I wouldn't anticipate any issues with that at all.
They are cheaper, have stock ready to go (no waiting for keys production, just straight purchase and dyesub) and lower MOQ.

[b7ad]

Unless Cherry has changed it recently, the mods keys are still thicker from the old molds. Only the 1x keys are the thinner type. imsto have dyesubbed some of these before so I wouldn't anticipate any issues with that at all.
They are cheaper, have stock ready to go (no waiting for keys production, just straight purchase and dyesub) and lower MOQ.

Yeah, I think they still are, these are a pretty recent set;

[JaccoW]

Unless Cherry has changed it recently, the mods keys are still thicker from the old molds. Only the 1x keys are the thinner type. imsto have dyesubbed some of these before so I wouldn't anticipate any issues with that at all.
They are cheaper, have stock ready to go (no waiting for keys production, just straight purchase and dyesub) and lower MOQ.

What is the MOQ? I would be up for a quick testrun with a fun print.

[IvanIvanovich]

Maybe as low as 100 set. For sure not more than 200.

[Sent]

That lower MOQ is nice.  Maybe we can finally get some wackier sets that aren't as popular.

[IvanIvanovich]

The dyesub aspect has always been low with me at 20 units. If someone comes up with an idea that can get at least that many orders, it's pretty much always been anything goes within the limits of the dyesublimation process available to us.

[00zeRO]

The dyesub aspect has always been low with me at 20 units. If someone comes up with an idea that can get at least that many orders, it's pretty much always been anything goes within the limits of the dyesublimation process available to us.

I like the idea of the modern type without all the other languages on the keycap. I feel it makes them too busy.

[Lastpilot]

The dyesub aspect has always been low with me at 20 units. If someone comes up with an idea that can get at least that many orders, it's pretty much always been anything goes within the limits of the dyesublimation process available to us.

I'll work on a japanese mockup with cherry english legends and gothic hiragana and katakana.

[nubbinator]

The dyesub aspect has always been low with me at 20 units. If someone comes up with an idea that can get at least that many orders, it's pretty much always been anything goes within the limits of the dyesublimation process available to us.

I like the idea of the modern type without all the other languages on the keycap. I feel it makes them too busy.

Wingdings it is!

[00zeRO]

The dyesub aspect has always been low with me at 20 units. If someone comes up with an idea that can get at least that many orders, it's pretty much always been anything goes within the limits of the dyesublimation process available to us.

I like the idea of the modern type without all the other languages on the keycap. I feel it makes them too busy.

Wingdings it is!

No I said busy, not Buzzy...

 

[IvanIvanovich]

[Puddsy]

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I dunno, I'm not feeling this one.

[FrostyToast]

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If we're going the crazy legends route, why don't we just print Egyptian hieroglyphics?

[IvanIvanovich]

Y no like Georgian?
I've entertained doing stuff like Egyptian Hieroglyphs, or Nordic Runes in the past.

[Puddsy]

Y no like Georgian?

looks too much like Thai

and I don't like Thai

[JaccoW]

Y no like Georgian?
I've entertained doing stuff like Egyptian Hieroglyphs, or Nordic Runes in the past.

If you can make a layout that fits, I'd love Nordic Runes

Bring in those Valkyries!

[Vintage]

Hangul or Japanese would be very cool IMO.

[ryptide11]

Another vote for hangul!

[justnits]

an official poll is required

[00zeRO]

I vote Century Gothic single legends...

[McWilloughby]

I vote Century Gothic single legends...

Would go for.

[ConscienceDrop]

The dyesub aspect has always been low with me at 20 units. If someone comes up with an idea that can get at least that many orders, it's pretty much always been anything goes within the limits of the dyesublimation process available to us.

I'll work on a japanese mockup with cherry english legends and gothic hiragana and katakana.

this sounds so sexy holy **** i cant wait to see it 

[IvanIvanovich]

Ok, I'm going to start working up some mock ups so I can get buy started. Last chance for any other bright ideas!

Will be going for the following: US set with Code Pro, US/RU set with Century Gothic, US set Cherry font in handarbeit homage, US/KO set in noto sans, US/JP set in M+2 light, US/AR UniversNext, US/HE Swiss721, MAC set in Univers57 oblique.

[McWilloughby]

Ok, I'm going to start working up some mock ups so I can get buy started. Last chance for any other bright ideas!

Will be going for the following: US set with Code Pro, US/RU set with Century Gothic, US set Cherry font in handarbeit homage, US/KO set in noto sans, US/JP set in M+2 light, US/AR UniversNext, US/HE Swiss721, MAC set in Univers57 oblique.

Will an ISO kit be an option for any of these or are they likely to be ANSI only for simplicity?

[IvanIvanovich]

ANSI only again, can't source PBT ISO Cherry profile. No one but Cherry has ISO enter mold, and they won't sell ISO blank kits unless I can buy 10k sets LOL.

[tjweir]

Will be going for the following: ... MAC set in Univers57 oblique.

Squeeeeee.

[McWilloughby]

ANSI only again, can't source PBT ISO Cherry profile. No one but Cherry has ISO enter mold, and they won't sell ISO blank kits unless I can buy 10k sets LOL.

Ah I see, would I correct in assuming that GMK don't do PBT? ANSI is fine, I'll just use a different board

[IvanIvanovich]

Right, GMK only works in ABS. Using ABS key mix was not received well as a possible solution previously.

[gogusrl]

Did someone say Thai ?

[nubbinator]

Did someone say Thai ?

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If only it wasn't pad printed.

[frosty]

Ivan, for v4 would there be a option of blanks or simply US legends (as in like only 'abc's and no special prints like russian or desko, someone teach me what the correct term to use please!) only? Or would there only be like thai, arabic etc?

[IvanIvanovich]

Yes blank will be available, US only also will be available 2 style. Not only dual languages.

[Vintage]

Ok, I'm going to start working up some mock ups so I can get buy started. Last chance for any other bright ideas!

Will be going for the following: US set with Code Pro, US/RU set with Century Gothic, US set Cherry font in handarbeit homage, US/KO set in noto sans, US/JP set in M+2 light, US/AR UniversNext, US/HE Swiss721, MAC set in Univers57 oblique.

1 question, KO = korean, or?

[IvanIvanovich]

Yes, KO is Korean Hangul.