Author Topic: ErgoDuck (Read 27740 times)

BlueBär · « **Reply #50 on:** Sun, 16 March 2014, 16:49:14 »

Quote from: ideus on Sun, 16 March 2014, 16:42:35

I just hope this does not cost a fortune. The renders show what appears to be an aluminum case. Awghh!

It will have an aluminum case. It's basically an ergo version of the Orion TKL (or the LightSaver), so expect a similar or higher price.

Pacifist · « **Reply #51 on:** Sun, 16 March 2014, 16:53:19 »

Quote from: ideus on Sun, 16 March 2014, 16:42:35

I just hope this does not cost a fortune. The renders show what appears to be an aluminum case. Awghh!

Its going to be at least $300, more towards $500 range.

Duck is pretty much 100% aluminum, and while for other boards he made you could get a different case, this one you can only get from him

ideus · « **Reply #52 on:** Sun, 16 March 2014, 16:53:41 »

Quote from: BlueBär on Sun, 16 March 2014, 16:49:14

Quote from: ideus on Sun, 16 March 2014, 16:42:35
I just hope this does not cost a fortune. The renders show what appears to be an aluminum case. Awghh!

It will have an aluminum case. It's basically an ergo version of the Orion TKL (or the LightSaver), so expect a similar or higher price.

My dreams had blown away. I'll stick with my humble Leo then.

dorkvader · « **Reply #53 on:** Sun, 16 March 2014, 17:27:34 »

Quote from: mapple on Sun, 16 March 2014, 16:18:21

Quote from: ideus on Sun, 16 March 2014, 15:54:00
This is the first so called ergonomic keyboard I really like. Does someone have a link to a place with information on the board in English?

^ +1

You guys do realize that there is only one post on this anywhere. Translate the page, but as you can see the verbal information is sparse; the pictures tell the story. This is relatively common to see on the Korean keyboard forums and websites.

I hope it does get made. If so you'll be able to see lots more information and pictures. Lots of pictures.

Quote from: BlueBär on Sun, 16 March 2014, 16:49:14

Quote from: ideus on Sun, 16 March 2014, 16:42:35
I just hope this does not cost a fortune. The renders show what appears to be an aluminum case. Awghh!

It will have an aluminum case. It's basically an ergo version of the Orion TKL (or the LightSaver), so expect a similar or higher price.

Closer to the orion than the lightsaver. The orion has a two piece case (and a price to match) whereas the lightsaver and duck mini have just a single piece "tub" case. This will be awesome, but not cheap

Quote from: ideus on Sun, 16 March 2014, 16:53:41

Quote from: BlueBär on Sun, 16 March 2014, 16:49:14
Quote from: ideus on Sun, 16 March 2014, 16:42:35
I just hope this does not cost a fortune. The renders show what appears to be an aluminum case. Awghh!

It will have an aluminum case. It's basically an ergo version of the Orion TKL (or the LightSaver), so expect a similar or higher price.

My dreams had blown away. I'll stick with my humble Leo then.

You will likely be able to get just the PCBs at a reasonable price. Duck (in partnership with kbd4u) has offered this in the past on all their models

Pacifist · « **Reply #54 on:** Sun, 16 March 2014, 17:29:30 »

Quote from: dorkvader on Sun, 16 March 2014, 17:27:34

Quote from: ideus on Sun, 16 March 2014, 16:53:41
Quote from: BlueBär on Sun, 16 March 2014, 16:49:14
Quote from: ideus on Sun, 16 March 2014, 16:42:35
I just hope this does not cost a fortune. The renders show what appears to be an aluminum case. Awghh!

It will have an aluminum case. It's basically an ergo version of the Orion TKL (or the LightSaver), so expect a similar or higher price.

My dreams had blown away. I'll stick with my humble Leo then.
You will likely be able to get just the PCBs at a reasonable price. Duck (in partnership with kbd4u) has offered this in the past on all their models

The problem with that is where are you going to get a case? DIY it? At least with the 60% and tkl duck sets you can easily get cases elsewhere

dorkvader · « **Reply #55 on:** Sun, 16 March 2014, 17:30:51 »

Quote from: Pacifist on Sun, 16 March 2014, 17:29:30

The problem with that is where are you going to get a case? DIY it?

Of course.

I would just get some metal bolts and make legs for it out of those. You can also tent it to your specification.

tbc · « **Reply #56 on:** Sun, 16 March 2014, 17:37:03 »

did he forget cables?

I was under the impression metal cases were really annoying for BT keyboards. not that wireless boards are even very popular.

dorkvader · « **Reply #57 on:** Sun, 16 March 2014, 17:53:41 »

It is likely not possible to properly render the cables, and they were simply omitted.

tbc · « **Reply #58 on:** Sun, 16 March 2014, 18:10:19 »

well, i don't see any cutouts for them either. did anyone else see them?

daerid · « **Reply #59 on:** Sun, 16 March 2014, 18:12:32 »

It is a nice looking board. Super simple. I wonder if they'll make a version without the left hand cluster (those always screw me up whenever I try to hit control or escape).

Pacifist · « **Reply #60 on:** Sun, 16 March 2014, 18:14:33 »

Quote from: daerid on Sun, 16 March 2014, 18:12:32

It is a nice looking board. Super simple. I wonder if they'll make a version without the left hand cluster (those always screw me up whenever I try to hit control or escape).

What about those SP locks?

CPTBadAss · « **Reply #61 on:** Sun, 16 March 2014, 18:16:20 »

Oooo. Perhaps this will make up for me missing out on the Lightsaver

mrmillsy · « **Reply #62 on:** Mon, 17 March 2014, 04:32:22 »

I'm with you on the left hand cluster. I'm sure I COULD learn to handle it, but even a larger than normal base tends to screw with my ESC-mashing so I'm not 100% confident.

BlueBär · « **Reply #63 on:** Mon, 17 March 2014, 06:42:36 »

You could always remap Esc to the top left key. Are these fully programmable btw?

daerid · « **Reply #64 on:** Mon, 17 March 2014, 11:09:15 »

Quote from: Pacifist on Sun, 16 March 2014, 18:14:33

Quote from: daerid on Sun, 16 March 2014, 18:12:32
It is a nice looking board. Super simple. I wonder if they'll make a version without the left hand cluster (those always screw me up whenever I try to hit control or escape).

What about those SP locks?

Hmmm maybe, but then I have non-functioning keys on my board, and that would dive me crazy

daerid · « **Reply #65 on:** Mon, 17 March 2014, 11:10:23 »

Quote from: BlueBär on Mon, 17 March 2014, 06:42:36

You could always remap Esc to the top left key. Are these fully programmable btw?

If they are, that would definitely be a viable solution.

vatin · « **Reply #66 on:** Mon, 17 March 2014, 18:59:47 »

Staggered roll is not ergonomic

steve.v · « **Reply #67 on:** Mon, 17 March 2014, 20:17:49 »

I can't wait to buy this!, er oh wait, it's not programmable, staggered keys, nvm no thanks. It should be renamed classicDuck.

BlueBär · « **Reply #68 on:** Mon, 17 March 2014, 20:20:52 »

Quote from: steve.v on Mon, 17 March 2014, 20:17:49

I can't wait to buy this!, er oh wait, it's not programmable, staggered keys, nvm no thanks. It should be renamed classicDuck.

It is probably programmable, as Duck's other keyboards are as well: http://duck0113.tistory.com/84

blackbox · « **Reply #69 on:** Tue, 18 March 2014, 01:32:54 »

I would had bought it if it wasnt for the estimated price. Thats more pretty expensive...

tbc · « **Reply #70 on:** Mon, 31 March 2014, 22:25:41 »

um. any update?

dorkvader · « **Reply #71 on:** Mon, 31 March 2014, 22:33:29 »

Quote from: tbc on Mon, 31 March 2014, 22:25:41

um. any update?

There's a good chance it won't even get made. Even if it does, I wouldn't expect an update for some months.

blackbox · « **Reply #72 on:** Tue, 01 April 2014, 02:26:15 »

Quote from: dorkvader on Mon, 31 March 2014, 22:33:29

Quote from: tbc on Mon, 31 March 2014, 22:25:41
um. any update?

There's a good chance it won't even get made. Even if it does, I wouldn't expect an update for some months.

Thats too bad.

tricheboars · « **Reply #73 on:** Sat, 19 April 2014, 19:05:09 »

Quote from: daerid on Sun, 16 March 2014, 10:17:23

Sigh...

It's not Ergo if it's staggered qwerty

i agree. this would be tempting if it wasnt for the staggered layout. kmac quality and case options are awesome but once you get use to a matrix layout it is just so much better. who knows maybe these guys will have a pcb variant that is matrix style. doubt it though.

does anyone else have issues trying to access the link on the OP?

tp4tissue · « **Reply #74 on:** Sat, 19 April 2014, 19:20:45 »

Quote from: tricheboars on Sat, 19 April 2014, 19:05:09

Quote from: daerid on Sun, 16 March 2014, 10:17:23
Sigh...

It's not Ergo if it's staggered qwerty

i agree. this would be tempting if it wasnt for the staggered layout. kmac quality and case options are awesome but once you get use to a matrix layout it is just so much better. who knows maybe these guys will have a pcb variant that is matrix style. doubt it though.

does anyone else have issues trying to access the link on the OP?

I think staggered is fine, as long as it's split, because you can just turn the board so it more/less replicates column-ar in terms of key spacing..

I think the primary issue with this board will be Tilting option.. it seems easy enough to do.. but being koreans, and how they're obsessed with right angles... they might forget...

without tenting capability, this ergoduck would just be a 2 piece paper weight..

tricheboars · « **Reply #75 on:** Sat, 19 April 2014, 19:49:23 »

stainless steal angled handwells in a two part kustom ergo board with a 62g ergoclear matrix layout and R3 SA Dolch caps.

tribade · « **Reply #76 on:** Sat, 19 April 2014, 21:31:25 »

Their site is down I guess? I haven't been able to access it. I blame you guys

Quote from: elton5354 on Sun, 16 March 2014, 12:59:01

This might be my end game.........

You had better not groupbuy this before the eagle/viper one! I'm on to you Elton

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tbc · « **Reply #77 on:** Sat, 19 April 2014, 22:10:22 »

i still say a split board is miles more ergonomic than nothinf. it might not be everything ergo, but it's something ergo

Permeability · « **Reply #78 on:** Mon, 21 April 2014, 21:57:10 »

Looks good. Duck comes out with so many miles products hopefully this one goes into production.

intelli78 · « **Reply #79 on:** Mon, 21 April 2014, 22:39:31 »

This kills the wallet.

Wildcard · « **Reply #80 on:** Mon, 21 April 2014, 22:52:12 »

Sold. "Throws money at screen"

yuktsi · « **Reply #81 on:** Mon, 21 April 2014, 22:59:44 »

so much gooding, so little money

domoaligato · « **Reply #82 on:** Wed, 21 May 2014, 19:23:54 »

any news on this?

tbc · « **Reply #83 on:** Wed, 21 May 2014, 19:35:04 »

seems like 3 months will be the earliest possible. duck seems to want to finish the whole 'lightsaver' stack (lightsaver, orion, eagle/viper).

I REALLY like the look of this, but I'm not sure I want it to go into production and be tempted :S

Zeal · « **Reply #84 on:** Wed, 21 May 2014, 20:27:22 »

Quote from: tbc on Wed, 21 May 2014, 19:35:04

seems like 3 months will be the earliest possible. duck seems to want to finish the whole 'lightsaver' stack (lightsaver, orion, eagle/viper).

I REALLY like the look of this, but I'm not sure I want it to go into production and be tempted :S

Ditch your ergodox for ergoduck.

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domoaligato · « **Reply #85 on:** Sat, 24 May 2014, 11:30:37 »

I will end up with 3 gh60's in the end, but this would be my ideal perfect keyboard for my office @ work.

bueller · « **Reply #86 on:** Sat, 24 May 2014, 11:32:48 »

Quote from: domoaligato on Sat, 24 May 2014, 11:30:37

I will end up with 3 gh60's in the end, but this would be my ideal perfect keyboard for my office @ work.

Yeah I'd love one of these but I'm pretty sure I'd stick with 60% boards on my other machines, would be a pain having the two pieces plus a mouse when I'm gaming on the telly.

paicrai · « **Reply #87 on:** Sat, 24 May 2014, 16:17:42 »

whoa, i'd totally get one

Puddsy · « **Reply #88 on:** Sat, 24 May 2014, 16:20:49 »

It's atrocious. Stag-werty is such a gross layout.

Qwerty master race

jacobolus · « **Reply #89 on:** Sat, 24 May 2014, 17:17:15 »

Quote from: TacticalStache on Sat, 24 May 2014, 16:20:49

It's atrocious. Stag-werty is such a gross layout.

Qwerty master race

What’s stag-werty?

dorkvader · « **Reply #90 on:** Sat, 24 May 2014, 17:19:42 »

Quote from: jacobolus on Sat, 24 May 2014, 17:17:15

Quote from: TacticalStache on Sat, 24 May 2014, 16:20:49
It's atrocious. Stag-werty is such a gross layout.

Qwerty master race
What’s stag-werty?

I believe i's a neologism: a portmanteau of staggered and qwerty.

Puddsy · « **Reply #91 on:** Sat, 24 May 2014, 19:23:26 »

correct

The Ergodox is a good example, though I think it's a better executed one than this.

jacobolus · « **Reply #92 on:** Sat, 24 May 2014, 21:50:05 »

Quote from: TacticalStache on Sat, 24 May 2014, 19:23:26

correct

The Ergodox is a good example, though I think it's a better executed one than this.

So you mean column-staggered QWERTY? I thought you might mean e.g. a symmetric row stagger.

The particular keyboard we’re talking about seems to just use a standard Sholes (1/2, 1/4, 1/2) key row stagger, so I’m confused by the apparent contradiction between “It's atrocious” and “Qwerty master race”.

domoaligato · « **Reply #93 on:** Sat, 24 May 2014, 22:07:37 »

I was curious about this also. it looks like standard qwerty to me except for the extra left keys, the short right shift and extra right keys.

divito · « **Reply #94 on:** Sun, 27 July 2014, 08:43:53 »

Any updates on this?

FrostyToast · « **Reply #95 on:** Sun, 27 July 2014, 08:48:10 »

Is that a split spacebar Duck? Help guys, I am dying over here.
Also, split spacebar dolch? Is this heaven?

domoaligato · « **Reply #96 on:** Sun, 27 July 2014, 17:19:56 »

yeah the spacebars are shift keys

dorkvader · « **Reply #97 on:** Sun, 27 July 2014, 17:34:27 »

Quote from: FrostyToast on Sun, 27 July 2014, 08:48:10

Is that a split spacebar Duck? Help guys, I am dying over here.
Also, split spacebar dolch? Is this heaven?

It's just a render. I'm not sure if GMK can make spacebars in that size.

FrostyToast · « **Reply #98 on:** Sun, 27 July 2014, 21:41:43 »

Quote from: dorkvader on Sun, 27 July 2014, 17:34:27

Quote from: FrostyToast on Sun, 27 July 2014, 08:48:10
Is that a split spacebar Duck? Help guys, I am dying over here.
Also, split spacebar dolch? Is this heaven?
It's just a render. I'm not sure if GMK can make spacebars in that size.

Those spacebars are apparently shiftkey sized, so a flipped blank shift might work....

jacobolus · « **Reply #99 on:** Sun, 27 July 2014, 21:57:29 »

Whatever-size DSA caps work pretty well for spacebars, I find (even if the rest of the caps are cherry or DCS or whatever profile). I’d recommend using those instead of cylindrical-profile shift keys, flipped or not.

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Author Topic: ErgoDuck (Read 27740 times)