[IC] DIY keyboard Bundle {Value-Edition} (Palm Rest IC)

[Hzza]

Interested in an ISO version for sure.

[Findecanor]

If would like to request a modification.

Please rearrange the numeric keypad a bit so that a keyboard builder could saw off one, two or three columns from the right without breaking anything. I would be fine with having it be a permanent mod - no header pins needed.

[clongetty]

Im interested in this.

It would be extra awesome with a hard anodized case.

[GhostofHarry]

Im interested in this.

It would be extra awesome with a hard anodized case.

yes    pacifist had also asked about the anodizing options
I have forward the question to the factory is am waiting  for their reply.

If would like to request a modification.

Please rearrange the numeric keypad a bit so that a keyboard builder could saw off one, two or three columns from the right without breaking anything. I would be fine with having it be a permanent mod - no header pins needed.

u mean       u want thsoe easy-cutting spaces for each of the numpad columns 
so you can get them cut without breaking the board

Did i get you wrong?

[Findecanor]

u mean       u want thsoe easy-cutting spaces for each of the numpad columns 
so you can get them cut without breaking the board

I'm sorry I was imprecise. Yes, I want to be able to cut away columns from the right of the number pad and keep the remaining keys functioning. That would require some rearrangement of the lines and the SMD components on the number pad to keep the integrity of the key and LED matrices and to place the components out of the way so that they are not easily damaged when cutting.
Routed channels, like in-between the 60% area and the numpad would be nice but are not as necessary.

Many users need arrows but not a numpad, and they would something smaller than a TKL.
With 3 columns: 3×2 nav cluster and arrows (like a TKL without function key row).
With 2 columns: 2×3 nav cluster and arrows (Like Cherry G80-5000).
With 1 column: arrows and a column of nav keys (like Noppoo Choc mini and many others).

More options are good.
There would have to be a new PCB revision anyway to support the ISO Return key.

[GhostofHarry]

u mean       u want thsoe easy-cutting spaces for each of the numpad columns 
so you can get them cut without breaking the board

I'm sorry I was imprecise. Yes, I want to be able to cut away columns from the right of the number pad and keep the remaining keys functioning. That would require some rearrangement of the lines and the SMD components on the number pad to keep the integrity of the key and LED matrices and to place the components out of the way so that they are not easily damaged when cutting.
Routed channels, like in-between the 60% area and the numpad would be nice but are not as necessary.

Many users need arrows but not a numpad, and they would something smaller than a TKL.
With 3 columns: 3×2 nav cluster and arrows (like a TKL without function key row).
With 2 columns: 2×3 nav cluster and arrows (Like Cherry G80-5000).
With 1 column: arrows and a column of nav keys (like Noppoo Choc mini and many others).

More options are good.
There would have to be a new PCB revision anyway to support the ISO Return key.

This is interesting, and you are correct  (cuz im going use the numpad part as arrows + function column too)
but one of the problem is the case and plates will be hard to fit afterwards

I know that we will have an improved case,
which provides option to use the plate holding the PCB in the case,
and by this, the PCB should still be able to rest in the case firmly.

But the right hand side of it will be emptied, and we may need something to fill up the space

Any idea to fix the casing and plate problem too?

[rosslerosa]

u mean       u want thsoe easy-cutting spaces for each of the numpad columns 
so you can get them cut without breaking the board

I'm sorry I was imprecise. Yes, I want to be able to cut away columns from the right of the number pad and keep the remaining keys functioning. That would require some rearrangement of the lines and the SMD components on the number pad to keep the integrity of the key and LED matrices and to place the components out of the way so that they are not easily damaged when cutting.
Routed channels, like in-between the 60% area and the numpad would be nice but are not as necessary.

Many users need arrows but not a numpad, and they would something smaller than a TKL.
With 3 columns: 3×2 nav cluster and arrows (like a TKL without function key row).
With 2 columns: 2×3 nav cluster and arrows (Like Cherry G80-5000).
With 1 column: arrows and a column of nav keys (like Noppoo Choc mini and many others).

More options are good.
There would have to be a new PCB revision anyway to support the ISO Return key.

This is interesting, and you are correct  (cuz im going use the numpad part as arrows + function column too)
but one of the problem is the case and plates will be hard to fit afterwards

I know that we will have an improved case,
which provides option to use the plate holding the PCB in the case,
and by this, the PCB should still be able to rest in the case firmly.

But the right hand side of it will be emptied, and we may need something to fill up the space

Any idea to fix the casing and plate problem too?

From looking at TaoBao I see that they offer a 60% case and plate if you just wanted the numpad removed. Hope that helps. I'm also planning on buying this but not sure if I should wait for group buy or buy the parts myself after seeing this post.

[ApocalypseMaow]

Whoa, nice layout! Can't wait to get one of these!!!

[feizor]

u mean       u want thsoe easy-cutting spaces for each of the numpad columns 
so you can get them cut without breaking the board

I'm sorry I was imprecise. Yes, I want to be able to cut away columns from the right of the number pad and keep the remaining keys functioning. That would require some rearrangement of the lines and the SMD components on the number pad to keep the integrity of the key and LED matrices and to place the components out of the way so that they are not easily damaged when cutting.
Routed channels, like in-between the 60% area and the numpad would be nice but are not as necessary.

Many users need arrows but not a numpad, and they would something smaller than a TKL.
With 3 columns: 3×2 nav cluster and arrows (like a TKL without function key row).
With 2 columns: 2×3 nav cluster and arrows (Like Cherry G80-5000).
With 1 column: arrows and a column of nav keys (like Noppoo Choc mini and many others).

More options are good.
There would have to be a new PCB revision anyway to support the ISO Return key.

This is interesting, and you are correct  (cuz im going use the numpad part as arrows + function column too)
but one of the problem is the case and plates will be hard to fit afterwards

I know that we will have an improved case,
which provides option to use the plate holding the PCB in the case,
and by this, the PCB should still be able to rest in the case firmly.

But the right hand side of it will be emptied, and we may need something to fill up the space

Any idea to fix the casing and plate problem too?

From looking at TaoBao I see that they offer a 60% case and plate if you just wanted the numpad removed. Hope that helps. I'm also planning on buying this but not sure if I should wait for group buy or buy the parts myself after seeing this post.

Could you please post a link to the tao bao ad for the 60% case and plate? I can't see it anywhere but my Chinese ain't great.

[Moosecraft]

Def interested 

[bianco]

interesting. is there a version with the full esc/function row on top?

[GhostofHarry]

interesting. is there a version with the full esc/function row on top?

i would suggest u to take a look at duck lightsaver
to me, its literally what u are talking about

[bianco]

interesting. is there a version with the full esc/function row on top?

i would suggest u to take a look at duck lightsaver
to me, its literally what u are talking about

yup, that's exactly what i wanted.
sadly, it was filled up before i could join in.
looking for a similar option

[Findecanor]

I want to be able to cut away columns from the right of the number pad and keep the remaining keys functioning.

Any idea to fix the casing and plate problem too?

No, there wouldn't be any case available for 16,17,18 wide keyboards. The beauty with the Poker case design though is that it is very simple: a one-piece tray with some spacers and a hole for the USB port, and a plate is optional.
Building a Poker case is therefore not very difficult. Several home-made Poker cases have been shown on GH. I could probably whip one up from ABS plastic within half an hour + some time for the solvent-adhesive to evaporate.

Yet another PCB design mod that would help though, would be to elongate the mounting holes in the keypad area so that there is some left when the column to the right has been cut off.

[GhostofHarry]

I want to be able to cut away columns from the right of the number pad and keep the remaining keys functioning.

Any idea to fix the casing and plate problem too?

No, there wouldn't be any case available for 16,17,18 wide keyboards. The beauty with the Poker case design though is that it is very simple: a one-piece tray with some spacers and a hole for the USB port, and a plate is optional.
Building a Poker case is therefore not very difficult. Several home-made Poker cases have been shown on GH. I could probably whip one up from ABS plastic within half an hour + some time for the solvent-adhesive to evaporate.

Yet another PCB design mod that would help though, would be to elongate the mounting holes in the keypad area so that there is some left when the column to the right has been cut off.

i will suggest this to 悬壶济世
but the final decision will be made by him

i have once asked him to try to make alps available on this PCB,
Or to add some print onto the PCB,
but there are too little space for us to do so.

I think there are difficulties in doing this but i will try to ask him if this is  feasible.

[rosslerosa]

u mean       u want thsoe easy-cutting spaces for each of the numpad columns 
so you can get them cut without breaking the board

I'm sorry I was imprecise. Yes, I want to be able to cut away columns from the right of the number pad and keep the remaining keys functioning. That would require some rearrangement of the lines and the SMD components on the number pad to keep the integrity of the key and LED matrices and to place the components out of the way so that they are not easily damaged when cutting.
Routed channels, like in-between the 60% area and the numpad would be nice but are not as necessary.

Many users need arrows but not a numpad, and they would something smaller than a TKL.
With 3 columns: 3×2 nav cluster and arrows (like a TKL without function key row).
With 2 columns: 2×3 nav cluster and arrows (Like Cherry G80-5000).
With 1 column: arrows and a column of nav keys (like Noppoo Choc mini and many others).

More options are good.
There would have to be a new PCB revision anyway to support the ISO Return key.

This is interesting, and you are correct  (cuz im going use the numpad part as arrows + function column too)
but one of the problem is the case and plates will be hard to fit afterwards

I know that we will have an improved case,
which provides option to use the plate holding the PCB in the case,
and by this, the PCB should still be able to rest in the case firmly.

But the right hand side of it will be emptied, and we may need something to fill up the space

Any idea to fix the casing and plate problem too?

From looking at TaoBao I see that they offer a 60% case and plate if you just wanted the numpad removed. Hope that helps. I'm also planning on buying this but not sure if I should wait for group buy or buy the parts myself after seeing this post.

Could you please post a link to the tao bao ad for the 60% case and plate? I can't see it anywhere but my Chinese ain't great.

Here is the link for the 60% case, for 60% the pcb is just cut or snapped off
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=2013.1.0.0.iCB8CI&scm=1007.10009.518.0&id=38804678406&pvid=fa741bb0-1b34-43c4-b045-f509f319580f

[feizor]

Thanks!

[Findecanor]

i will suggest this to 悬壶济世
but the final decision will be made by him

Awesome. Thanks!

[GhostofHarry]

i will suggest this to 悬壶济世
but the final decision will be made by him

Awesome. Thanks!

some pretty big improvement had made to the PCB and the Case!

Hopefully i can have a sample or at least a picture of it by the begining of next week

[feizor]

i will suggest this to 悬壶济世
but the final decision will be made by him

Awesome. Thanks!

some pretty big improvement had made to the PCB and the Case!

Hopefully i can have a sample or at least a picture of it by the begining of next week

Can't wait, I'm definitely in on this.

[ChillyVanilly]

In, but why not have the arrow keys in the 10 key cluster like a Model F? 1.25s in R1 and a regular size right shift would make a lot of caps sets immediately compatible.

[feizor]

In, but why not have the arrow keys in the 10 key cluster like a Model F? 1.25s in R1 and a regular size right shift would make a lot of caps sets immediately compatible.

I believe that configuration is available, just get the winkey plate.

[bcg]

Interested

[slickmamba]

Interested, but I don't need switches!  Too many already

[Pacifist]

Im interested in this.

It would be extra awesome with a hard anodized case.

yes    pacifist had also asked about the anodizing options
I have forward the question to the factory is am waiting  for their reply.

If would like to request a modification.

Please rearrange the numeric keypad a bit so that a keyboard builder could saw off one, two or three columns from the right without breaking anything. I would be fine with having it be a permanent mod - no header pins needed.

u mean       u want thsoe easy-cutting spaces for each of the numpad columns 
so you can get them cut without breaking the board

Did i get you wrong?

Any update bout anodizing?

[GhostofHarry]

Im interested in this.

It would be extra awesome with a hard anodized case.

yes    pacifist had also asked about the anodizing options
I have forward the question to the factory is am waiting  for their reply.

If would like to request a modification.

Please rearrange the numeric keypad a bit so that a keyboard builder could saw off one, two or three columns from the right without breaking anything. I would be fine with having it be a permanent mod - no header pins needed.

u mean       u want thsoe easy-cutting spaces for each of the numpad columns 
so you can get them cut without breaking the board

Did i get you wrong?

Any update bout anodizing?

Design of pcb and case was changed.
And designers hdd crashed
I asked him and he said things should be done this week, samples to show u guys

 Even Chinese side gb is stopped
Just finished my finals yesterday and I will start updating all threads of mine after collecting info

[two4teezee]

I'm in.

[GhostofHarry]

Any update bout anodizing?

yo pacifist,
sadly, the factory does not have option of hard anodizing.
If hard anodizing is wanted, i might have to try seek for other company in hk / china for re-anodizing

other anodizing options sample have arrived and are ready to be shipped to me
i will ask him to send them to me tmr or day after tmr

[feizor]

Im interested in this.

It would be extra awesome with a hard anodized case.

yes    pacifist had also asked about the anodizing options
I have forward the question to the factory is am waiting  for their reply.

If would like to request a modification.

Please rearrange the numeric keypad a bit so that a keyboard builder could saw off one, two or three columns from the right without breaking anything. I would be fine with having it be a permanent mod - no header pins needed.

u mean       u want thsoe easy-cutting spaces for each of the numpad columns 
so you can get them cut without breaking the board

Did i get you wrong?

Any update bout anodizing?

Design of pcb and case was changed.
And designers hdd crashed
I asked him and he said things should be done this week, samples to show u guys

 Even Chinese side gb is stopped
Just finished my finals yesterday and I will start updating all threads of mine after collecting info

Hope you did OK in your exams. How time for fun keyboard stuff!

Really looking forward to this GB!

Are you able to get cherry mx clear switches? And 62g springs?

[LechnerDE]

Interesting kit!

Will the plate allow switch top removal without desoldering?

[GhostofHarry]

Interesting kit!

Will the plate allow switch top removal without desoldering?

yes

sneak peek of the chinese veresion

[LechnerDE]

Thanks for the ultra fast reply

Now it's a must have for me!

Would it be possible to bundle this with the Tai Hao keycaps from your other GB to save some shipping costs?

[feizor]

Interesting kit!

Will the plate allow switch top removal without desoldering?

yes

sneak peek of the chinese veresion

(Attachment Link)

Yep, I need this. Looks very nice. Definitely in.

Will you be including the 60% case in the GB? I would like to get one for my Poker2.

[GhostofHarry]

Interesting kit!

Will the plate allow switch top removal without desoldering?

yes

sneak peek of the chinese veresion

(Attachment Link)

Yep, I need this. Looks very nice. Definitely in.

Will you be including the 60% case in the GB? I would like to get one for my Poker2.

i can try to include them

some more photo of the 77 keyboard!

[minho]

Interesting kit!

Will the plate allow switch top removal without desoldering?

yes

sneak peek of the chinese veresion

(Attachment Link)

Yep, I need this. Looks very nice. Definitely in.

Will you be including the 60% case in the GB? I would like to get one for my Poker2.

i can try to include them

some more photo of the 77 keyboard!

Damn that looks amazing 

[GhostofHarry]

to be honest,
after several modification of the PCB and the case, i would say this keyboard can stand toe-to-toe against any other DIY keyboard in the market.

I doubt saying its a "value edition " item is the right thing to do, as it is a keyboard that has its own specialty.

[minho]

to be honest,
after several modification of the PCB and the case, i would say this keyboard can stand toe-to-toe against any other DIY keyboard in the market.

I doubt saying its a "value edition " item is the right thing to do, as it is a keyboard that has its own specialty.

Yea when I hear "value edition" I kind of imagined something cheaper, but this looks amazing - given the choice between this and other customs, this is a pretty competitive choice (and even more so considering the price) 

[Doesntknowwhattosay]

  After seeing these pics I am pretty convinced. Have to wait for eltons GB for the viper and eagle before I decide but I'm definitely interested!

[yuiop]

I'd like to declare my interest.  Probably for 1~2 sets of pcb, plate, case combo.
I like the fact it has aluminum top and bottom plates, pretty thick too. 

[feizor]

Interesting kit!

Will the plate allow switch top removal without desoldering?

yes

sneak peek of the chinese veresion

(Attachment Link)

Yep, I need this. Looks very nice. Definitely in.

Will you be including the 60% case in the GB? I would like to get one for my Poker2.

i can try to include them

some more photo of the 77 keyboard!

The keyboard in the pictures, is that without a plate? I can't see the plate layer. But it looks fantastic! Love the color matched screws. Very classy. I hope the final product will be such good quality.

[GhostofHarry]

U don't usually see the plate as it's under the keycaps 
But u can review another pic I post and u can see how the plate looks

[Pacifist]

how good is the reprogramablilty?

[GhostofHarry]

how good is the reprogramablilty?

U can program it as many times as u want

Process is of designing ur keymap is GUI, and u can choose to flash ur .hex and .eep through dedicated dfu-reflasher or via flip

U can generate ur eep with the keyboard-layout-editor.com and enjoyclick.org/tkg# combo

i will upload the dfu-reflasher in the gb for easier firmware flashing

[Pacifist]

how good is the reprogramablilty?

U can program it as many times as u want

While process is GUI, and u can choose to flash ur .hex and .eep through dedicated dfu-reflasher or via flip

U can generate ur eep through keyboard-layout-editor.com and enjoyclick.org/tkg#

how many layers are there if I do the hex file flash? I know metalliqaz gets 10 with his hex file maker

[GhostofHarry]

how good is the reprogramablilty?

U can program it as many times as u want

While process is GUI, and u can choose to flash ur .hex and .eep through dedicated dfu-reflasher or via flip

U can generate ur eep through keyboard-layout-editor.com and enjoyclick.org/tkg#

how many layers are there if I do the hex file flash? I know metalliqaz gets 10 with his hex file maker

if u are generating ur .EEP via enjoyclick.org/tkg#
there are in total 8 layers for you to use
but some of the fn keys have to be used for dedicated LED config

i usually use 3 fn keys for led config, so i have at most 5 layers to program
so if u have only one LED mode toggle, u can have 7 layers
if u dont give a _ about led, u can have all 8 layers for ur own use

for further details, i can ask kai1103 for more info
he can reply ur answer much clearer

[Pacifist]

how good is the reprogramablilty?

U can program it as many times as u want

While process is GUI, and u can choose to flash ur .hex and .eep through dedicated dfu-reflasher or via flip

U can generate ur eep through keyboard-layout-editor.com and enjoyclick.org/tkg#

how many layers are there if I do the hex file flash? I know metalliqaz gets 10 with his hex file maker

if u are generation ur .EEP through enjoyclick.org/tkg#
there are in total 8 layers for you to use
but some of the fn keys have to be used for dedicated LED config

i usually use 3 fn keys for led config, so i have at most 5 layers to program
so if u have only one LED mode toggle, u can have 7 layers
if u dont give a _ about led, u can have all 8 layers for ur own use

That's plenty, thanks for the info

[feizor]

I think the case would look even nicer using 1x12mm acrylic layer instead of 3 x 4mm layers.

As per this tao bao add:
http://h5.m.taobao.com/awp/core/detail.htm?id=38804482367&spm=0.0.0.0&rn=8L78NCOB2-XzfRe6hkYAX1IkyU5B-XVW2VfO-aCNZ&sid=4a141a341016cca2de531d6e672c3a64&abtest=6&bagtype=

[jdcarpe]

I think the case would look even nicer using 1x12mm acrylic layer instead of 3 x 4mm layers.

As per this tao bao add:
http://h5.m.taobao.com/awp/core/detail.htm?id=38804482367&spm=0.0.0.0&rn=8L78NCOB2-XzfRe6hkYAX1IkyU5B-XVW2VfO-aCNZ&sid=4a141a341016cca2de531d6e672c3a64&abtest=6&bagtype=

But where to find a shop that will supply the 12mm acrylic? The thickest I've found at a cutter (to be honest, I haven't looked around that much) was 9mm.

[GhostofHarry]

I think the case would look even nicer using 1x12mm acrylic layer instead of 3 x 4mm layers.

As per this tao bao add:
http://h5.m.taobao.com/awp/core/detail.htm?id=38804482367&spm=0.0.0.0&rn=8L78NCOB2-XzfRe6hkYAX1IkyU5B-XVW2VfO-aCNZ&sid=4a141a341016cca2de531d6e672c3a64&abtest=6&bagtype=

But where to find a shop that will supply the 12mm acrylic? The thickest I've found at a cutter (to be honest, I haven't looked around that much) was 9mm.

yes  you are correct   12mm is rare..

and actually, after the modification, the thickness of acrylic needed is 15mm in order to cover the switches

so the design now is 3x 5mm acrylics

BTW

Blue and Gold anodizing option is added!

[rosslerosa]

I really can't wait for the group buy! I have been holding off and trying to not buy from TaoBao through agent in hopes that this group buy will be better!