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[IC] GH60 boards and titanium plates
« on: Fri, 13 June 2014, 12:07:30 »
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komar and i are thinking of making another run of gh60 boards, and i can source enough more Ti to get more 60% notched boards cut. we could design a bottom plate as well, but there is a serious wealth of 60% cases out there, so i don't see the point of that. lead time would be something like 6 weeks (slightly fewer moving parts than the smallfry, but the pcbs will probably be the long pole). these would be presoldered pcbs. the kit would basically only come with a titanium plate and a gh60. the two layout options we would be looking at would be ansi125 and ansi150. if someone can provide a gh60 compatible ISO plate, i can make some of those too, however, as we'll be laser cutting single sheets. stabilizers would be an "as i can find stock of them to carry on geekhackers.org". as usual, you're on your own for 7x stabilizers (although there may be a fellow bending them en masse soon).

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Re: [IC] GH60 boards and titanium plates
« Reply #1 on: Fri, 13 June 2014, 12:13:36 »
I would be interested if you did the HHKB layout, otherwise no dice.

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Re: [IC] GH60 boards and titanium plates
« Reply #2 on: Fri, 13 June 2014, 12:18:17 »
I think most people just want their GH60 that they ordered already. But this way might be faster.

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Re: [IC] GH60 boards and titanium plates
« Reply #3 on: Fri, 13 June 2014, 12:18:53 »
I'm going to be that guy - would it be possible to buy the PCB separately?  :p

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Re: [IC] GH60 boards and titanium plates
« Reply #4 on: Fri, 13 June 2014, 12:36:54 »
"ANSI 150" means a winkeyless layout, correct?  If yes, I am in.
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Re: [IC] GH60 boards and titanium plates
« Reply #5 on: Fri, 13 June 2014, 12:47:06 »
ansi 150 is winkeyless, yah. and yah, separate pcbs would be fine.

and this may very well be way faster than the GB XD

as usual, if you can get me the drawing for the HHKB layout, i can cut it, no prob. no one's actually given me a drawing yet.

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Re: [IC] GH60 boards and titanium plates
« Reply #6 on: Fri, 13 June 2014, 12:57:34 »
+1
how much?
I would want 5.
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Re: [IC] GH60 boards and titanium plates
« Reply #7 on: Fri, 13 June 2014, 13:01:00 »
and this may very well be way faster than the GB XD

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Re: [IC] GH60 boards and titanium plates
« Reply #8 on: Fri, 13 June 2014, 13:01:50 »
and this may very well be way faster than the GB XD

Not sure whether to laugh or cry. :facepalm:
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Re: [IC] GH60 boards and titanium plates
« Reply #9 on: Fri, 13 June 2014, 13:04:50 »
If we could get the black version of the PCB I'd buy another PCB anyway. Don't think I could afford the Ti case.

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Re: [IC] GH60 boards and titanium plates
« Reply #10 on: Fri, 13 June 2014, 13:07:23 »
I'd be interested in just the PCB if that's an option and it comes in a different color than the white one.

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Re: [IC] GH60 boards and titanium plates
« Reply #11 on: Fri, 13 June 2014, 13:07:40 »
I'm interested in 1.25 ANSI.

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Re: [IC] GH60 boards and titanium plates
« Reply #12 on: Fri, 13 June 2014, 13:09:46 »
we can probably get black pcbs? i can get the titanium anodized gray though, if that helps.

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Re: [IC] GH60 boards and titanium plates
« Reply #13 on: Fri, 13 June 2014, 13:14:08 »
Deeply interested but the $$$ probably says I agree with SpamaRay: PCB-only because I accidentally my bank account.

It isn't just "this might be faster" ... I missed the GB so its either this, or wait until MK is comfortable selling PCBs.

Uh ... guesstimates on the Ti plate? ANSI-150 if I can get it at all.

edit: +1 to black PCBs. Or heck, brilliant orange. Just not white as I have several around (MK, again.)

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Re: [IC] GH60 boards and titanium plates
« Reply #14 on: Fri, 13 June 2014, 13:26:05 »
I did uploaded komar's project to get a quote in seeedstudio:
so so 80 bucks per 10 boards.
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Re: [IC] GH60 boards and titanium plates
« Reply #15 on: Fri, 13 June 2014, 13:28:37 »
1)  I would only buy PCBs (I think I already have a Ti plate on order from you :) )

2)  If it were possible to get a drawing of a standard 60% ANSI150 plate I'm sure I could modify it to add split backspace and split R-shift.  I think that's the only difference the HHKB has (truncated bottom row but for a plate I don't think it's necessary to remove the edge keys). 

EDIT:  Actually the HHKB bottom row isn't ANSI150/ANSI125.  Nvm.
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Re: [IC] GH60 boards and titanium plates
« Reply #16 on: Fri, 13 June 2014, 13:31:36 »
I also throw in my vote for a PCB only option. Ti plates are sexy and all, but not needed for every project. PCB is a much more useful wrench.
   

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Re: [IC] GH60 boards and titanium plates
« Reply #17 on: Fri, 13 June 2014, 13:32:16 »
I did uploaded komar's project to get a quote in seeedstudio:
so so 80 bucks per 10 boards.

Probably not loaded with electronics, though, right?
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Re: [IC] GH60 boards and titanium plates
« Reply #18 on: Fri, 13 June 2014, 13:32:25 »
Interested in the PCBs and possibly one Ti plate depending on the price. 

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Re: [IC] GH60 boards and titanium plates
« Reply #19 on: Fri, 13 June 2014, 13:45:21 »
I would be interested in a few PCBs and a plate.

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Re: [IC] GH60 boards and titanium plates
« Reply #20 on: Fri, 13 June 2014, 13:53:51 »
I did uploaded komar's project to get a quote in seeedstudio:
so so 80 bucks per 10 boards.

Probably not loaded with electronics, though, right?
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Re: [IC] GH60 boards and titanium plates
« Reply #21 on: Fri, 13 June 2014, 14:21:40 »
plate price would probably stick to 120$/ea. no difference in price for different layouts.

komar and i need to do some accounting to figure out pcb price. i don't want to get people's hopes up or down with a price before we have some idea what the quotes will look like. there is some oddity around boards that imsto has sitting and some other stuff.

and yes, the pcb and the plates will be sold separately.

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Re: [IC] GH60 boards and titanium plates
« Reply #22 on: Fri, 13 June 2014, 16:50:30 »
I'd be down depending on financials (the whole moving 1000km, finding a new job, etc etc.)

Fortunately, I recently sold 2 computers 3 keyboards and a trackball, so it's looking likely.

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Re: [IC] GH60 boards and titanium plates
« Reply #23 on: Fri, 13 June 2014, 16:54:02 »
pcb numbers are not looking great

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Re: [IC] GH60 boards and titanium plates
« Reply #24 on: Fri, 13 June 2014, 17:41:07 »
It's only been a few hours tho, maybe give it the weekend before dooming the effort?  :p
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Re: [IC] GH60 boards and titanium plates
« Reply #25 on: Fri, 13 June 2014, 17:44:26 »
So this is another Gh60 buy that will start and year and a quarter after the original GH60 GB and more than likely ship before that one too?



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Re: [IC] GH60 boards and titanium plates
« Reply #26 on: Fri, 13 June 2014, 17:47:45 »
I would be interested in a few PCBs and a plate also.

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Re: [IC] GH60 boards and titanium plates
« Reply #27 on: Fri, 13 June 2014, 17:57:18 »
Fair price + HHKB option and I am in. Plate plus PCB.

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Re: [IC] GH60 boards and titanium plates
« Reply #28 on: Fri, 13 June 2014, 18:54:17 »
I'm in for pcb. If a stainless steel plate becomes available I would get it too.

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Re: [IC] GH60 boards and titanium plates
« Reply #29 on: Fri, 13 June 2014, 20:19:05 »
Definitely in for a PCB and probably the plate.

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Re: [IC] GH60 boards and titanium plates
« Reply #30 on: Fri, 13 June 2014, 20:54:45 »
In for a PCB or two.
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Re: [IC] GH60 boards and titanium plates
« Reply #31 on: Fri, 13 June 2014, 21:14:49 »
If you do black PCBs I would no doubt order at least one. What would the cost be per PCB (roughly)?

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Re: [IC] GH60 boards and titanium plates
« Reply #32 on: Sat, 14 June 2014, 01:29:49 »
It's only been a few hours tho, maybe give it the weekend before dooming the effort?  :p
i actually meant the prices we were tossing around. they're not great :(

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Re: [IC] GH60 boards and titanium plates
« Reply #33 on: Sat, 14 June 2014, 05:41:40 »
It's only been a few hours tho, maybe give it the weekend before dooming the effort?  :p
i actually meant the prices we were tossing around. they're not great :(

I am in for PCBs. Plates are secondary, especially as they are Ti, which is a cost issue for me at this stage.

What sort of numbers (price?) are we looking at for a given order number, or various MOQs?  Of course, we must understand that the numbers you may come up with now are purely indicative.
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Re: [IC] GH60 boards and titanium plates
« Reply #34 on: Sat, 14 June 2014, 08:32:41 »
I missed ti plate gb, so i am very interested plate in this gb :P

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Re: [IC] GH60 boards and titanium plates
« Reply #36 on: Sat, 14 June 2014, 14:14:47 »
the best prices are at the 250 and 500 pcb unit tiers. below that, it almost doesn't make sense to produce assembled pcbs. :|

i refuse to make people bake their own pcbs though, or to buy their own BOM for this board, as it's quite complicated, and we can get big discounts from volume.

it would be a no brainer to produce 500 if the GH60 GB hadn't already produced hundreds of PCBs, but as it is, i'm a little wary of putting thousands into more pcbs. i want to make some, but from the tiering prices, it almost doesn't make any sense to make less than 250.

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Re: [IC] GH60 boards and titanium plates
« Reply #37 on: Sat, 14 June 2014, 14:16:45 »
MechanicalKeyboards.com expressed an interest in stocking GH60 PCB's, maybe they can fill the rest of the order?
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« Reply #38 on: Sat, 14 June 2014, 14:17:23 »
sure, i'll reach out to them.

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Re: [IC] GH60 boards and titanium plates
« Reply #39 on: Sat, 14 June 2014, 15:42:23 »
Maybe Techkeys may want some, as they are already offering switches.

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« Reply #40 on: Sun, 15 June 2014, 02:48:18 »
In for whole set since I wasn't here for the gh60 gb
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Re: [IC] GH60 boards and titanium plates
« Reply #41 on: Sun, 15 June 2014, 14:52:45 »
also, on PCB colors, we have a choice of green, blue, red, black, yellow, white

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« Reply #42 on: Sun, 15 June 2014, 14:54:14 »
Blue would be cool.
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Re: [IC] GH60 boards and titanium plates
« Reply #43 on: Sun, 15 June 2014, 14:55:21 »
i just want to note that my goal here is not to piss off gh60 GB customers. i've always wanted to make GH60 boards a regular stock item, so this isn't really a GB, it's just planning for carrying regular stock of pcbs

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Re: [IC] GH60 boards and titanium plates
« Reply #44 on: Sun, 15 June 2014, 15:37:37 »
most likely in for a pcb in white

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Re: [IC] GH60 boards and titanium plates
« Reply #45 on: Sun, 15 June 2014, 15:54:08 »
i just want to note that my goal here is not to piss off gh60 GB customers. i've always wanted to make GH60 boards a regular stock item, so this isn't really a GB, it's just planning for carrying regular stock of pcbs

This would bea awesome!  :thumb:

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Re: [IC] GH60 boards and titanium plates
« Reply #46 on: Sun, 15 June 2014, 16:45:42 »
Still interested...

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Re: [IC] GH60 boards and titanium plates
« Reply #47 on: Sun, 15 June 2014, 19:31:02 »
I am also interested.

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Re: [IC] GH60 boards and titanium plates
« Reply #48 on: Sun, 15 June 2014, 19:41:00 »
I am very interested in a black PCB with stabilizers, if stabilizers are hard to find by oneself.

But two vital questions:

1. Will the PCB fit the aluminium cases from Tex?

2. What's the ballpark figure for a GH60 PCB?

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Re: [IC] GH60 boards and titanium plates
« Reply #49 on: Sun, 15 June 2014, 21:48:09 »
I would definitely be in for a white PCB. I can probably rip apart my k90 for the switches. The only problem is that I would still need a spacebar stab wire. Apparently stabs are quite hard to source.
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