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DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #50 on: Wed, 09 July 2014, 03:47:37 »
maybe 7075 aluminum instead of 6025?

this

Why not go all out and have it have a brass/bronze piece at the back too :P

And maybe put a 356cl logo on it as well!
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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #51 on: Wed, 09 July 2014, 04:38:07 »
i would be completely okay with copying the lz fe and remaking it as a 75%.  :)

but with back and side lighting :)
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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #52 on: Wed, 09 July 2014, 04:43:25 »
At least there's a work around since the PCB supports both MX and ALPS. Use MX for mods and ALPS for alphas...mix and match.
Ah okay. Solves the infamous alps stabilizer problem

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #53 on: Thu, 10 July 2014, 00:10:18 »
This is slightly off topic, but could we have a small run of duck PCBs with alps support?
Having a Lightsaver layout with complicated blues would be my dream keyboard.
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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #54 on: Fri, 11 July 2014, 11:06:29 »
Is there a rough time frame for when we can put down our money?

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #55 on: Fri, 11 July 2014, 11:25:55 »
Are there RGB SMD LEDs? If there are, that would be nice
yeah there's tons. lots of sizes / options / brightness as well. they could just get one in the same size and call it a day.

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #56 on: Wed, 30 July 2014, 08:20:03 »
hope this thread gets more attention once the Viper/Eagle GB is underway

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #57 on: Wed, 30 July 2014, 09:17:52 »
Are there RGB SMD LEDs? If there are, that would be nice
yeah there's tons. lots of sizes / options / brightness as well. they could just get one in the same size and call it a day.
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Also, while I have no issues with the current DUCK designs, I think a low-profile yet still heavy case would be a fresh idea.

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #58 on: Mon, 18 August 2014, 12:24:23 »
Just saw this on kbdlab, could anyone translate this into English? I used gg translate but didn't help much.
http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=444779&mid=board_Lsno50

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #59 on: Mon, 18 August 2014, 12:38:46 »
Just saw this on kbdlab, could anyone translate this into English? I used gg translate but didn't help much.
http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=444779&mid=board_Lsno50

I'm not so interested in what it says as I am in when I can order one :eek:

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #60 on: Mon, 18 August 2014, 12:49:53 »
No input on the layout, but whatever it is I would like the case to be flatter.  11 degree angle is roughly equivalent to a *standard* keyboard with feet.  Flat to 6 degrees with optional feet/riser would be better IMO.

So many times this!

I love the design of Duck boards but as someone who prefers his keyboard to be flat I find the steep angle to be a major turn off.
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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #61 on: Mon, 18 August 2014, 13:44:00 »
* Flat case. If you want feet and/or more weights, you screw it on to the underside.
* All 1u keys on Function row.
* All 1u cursor keys
* Right Alt right in front of . (Period key)
* Space bar: 7u, 6.25u or 6u or split (2.25+2.75+1).
* Either all 1.25/1 mods or 1.5/1 mods for Cherry MX, no 1.5/1.25 combo.
* 2u or divided Backspace (compensate for not having Delete on a nav cluster)
* ISO support.

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #62 on: Mon, 18 August 2014, 16:16:06 »
ISO support?
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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #63 on: Fri, 22 August 2014, 12:00:19 »
They've created a sample for the case.  PCB can still be worked out..I've asked for ISO support, so we'll see..

http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=453116&mid=board_Lsno50

Duck wants to put sticker in the middle insert, but I would rather have something engraved in it.

They are also planning on this:

http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_Lsno50&document_srl=435541

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #64 on: Fri, 22 August 2014, 12:04:09 »
Soooo close to my dream of a 75% Alps board!!!

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #66 on: Fri, 22 August 2014, 14:22:18 »
They've created a sample for the case.  PCB can still be worked out..I've asked for ISO support, so we'll see..

http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=453116&mid=board_Lsno50

Duck wants to put sticker in the middle insert, but I would rather have something engraved in it.

They are also planning on this:

http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_Lsno50&document_srl=435541
They look very promising.
I kind of agree with you, the engraved sticker would be better.
Also, somebody mentioned the keyboard angle. This looks a bit steep to me but maybe I prefer less.
When can we buy them?  :thumb:

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #68 on: Fri, 22 August 2014, 16:06:13 »
Hi there,

TrueCustom and DUCK is planning on designing a new 75% keyboard.  They would like geekhack's input on a new design or if you would rather they keep their current design like Lightsaver V2, Orion, etc..

I was thinking maybe a geekhack edition with GH SE CNC'd onto the case such as the LZ-GH keyboard. An option of ALPs and MX PCB is a plus as well. More choices the better, right?

Well, please share your ideas here.

Something like the noppoo choc mini that doesn't break after 6 months would be a massive plus, maybe a metal backplate, something that is a little bit more sturdy.

That'd be amazing.

wants: arrow cluster, function keys (similar to noppoo) etc.
don't wants: horrible keys, clutteredness, cheap looking/poor design.
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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #69 on: Fri, 22 August 2014, 16:32:55 »
Want both
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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #70 on: Fri, 22 August 2014, 16:54:54 »
This is what keeps me excited for the last several days! Duck FTW! I've been looking for a 75% kit with full metal case for so so long.
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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #71 on: Fri, 22 August 2014, 17:08:58 »
This will be coming after Viper/Eagle, so very soon. Angle should be 11 degrees, same with their other designs.

I'm not too sure about their Duck Nintendo...more info later?

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #72 on: Fri, 22 August 2014, 18:12:10 »
I'm probably gonna have to buy this.

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #73 on: Fri, 22 August 2014, 18:33:09 »
Why do I feel like our input didn't have much effect? The 75% looks just like the other duck boards minus the little center label part.

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #74 on: Fri, 22 August 2014, 20:06:50 »
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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #75 on: Fri, 22 August 2014, 20:28:55 »
Why do I feel like our input didn't have much effect? The 75% looks just like the other duck boards minus the little center label part.

And that little center label part really bugs me.  :))  Maybe it'll look better if it's engraved like elton suggested but right now it annoys the heck out of me.  Like the layout.  Hate that little center nub. :(

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #76 on: Fri, 22 August 2014, 20:32:03 »
Why do I feel like our input didn't have much effect? The 75% looks just like the other duck boards minus the little center label part.

And that little center label part really bugs me.  :))  Maybe it'll look better if it's engraved like elton suggested but right now it annoys the heck out of me.  Like the layout.  Hate that little center nub. :(
Agreed, not sure why that is there, kinda reminds me of childhood toys where you have to put the stickers on. Not to mention all the extra cnc cuts you need to make that which increase milling time which then potentially increases costs. :/

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« Reply #77 on: Fri, 22 August 2014, 21:39:57 »
ya like seriously.....that's retarded.  get rid of it.

of course, i'll buy it regardless.  any word on price?  can we hope for $300 before shipping?
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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #78 on: Fri, 22 August 2014, 21:56:39 »
I agree that the design is not perfect. I won't expect duck's to change the angle, since all the duck boards with botom LED have this angle. After Lightsaver V1, V2, light pad, Orion, and Viper/Eagle, I'm a little tired of this bottom LED design. But I will still be down for one and even two for duck's 75% keyboard. There really isn't other options if you want 75% layout with full metal case. Chance for other full metal mx-mini kits? Almost zero. I've been waiting for a whole year for a full metal case mx-mini kit, and I'm still 75%-less.

ya like seriously.....that's retarded.  get rid of it.

of course, i'll buy it regardless.  any word on price?  can we hope for $300 before shipping?

I expect it to be cheaper than Lightsaver V2, which is $295.
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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #79 on: Fri, 22 August 2014, 22:19:52 »
I'm on for a 75% - my favorite board! I'm not clever enough to make suggestions except the acylic plate like the Orion.

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #80 on: Fri, 22 August 2014, 23:30:46 »
I'd guess the price is between lightsaver and viper/eagle.

I don't think having the acrylic piece in the middle plausible since it's a 1 piece design.

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« Reply #81 on: Fri, 22 August 2014, 23:42:37 »
I agree that the design is not perfect. I won't expect duck's to change the angle, since all the duck boards with botom LED have this angle. After Lightsaver V1, V2, light pad, Orion, and Viper/Eagle, I'm a little tired of this bottom LED design. But I will still be down for one and even two for duck's 75% keyboard. There really isn't other options if you want 75% layout with full metal case. Chance for other full metal mx-mini kits? Almost zero. I've been waiting for a whole year for a full metal case mx-mini kit, and I'm still 75%-less.

ya like seriously.....that's retarded.  get rid of it.

of course, i'll buy it regardless.  any word on price?  can we hope for $300 before shipping?

I expect it to be cheaper than Lightsaver V2, which is $295.

nice price!!!! god knows i have tons of switches, caps, and a soldering iron already

ya.  honestly, the design isn't the best, but it's not actually bad.  for that price (as in not $700) and the lack of competitors, i am definitely in.
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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #82 on: Fri, 22 August 2014, 23:48:05 »
The price is definitely pretty attractive.  The question is...jump on this when it's available or keep holding out for something better.  :rolleyes:  Just can't get over that stupid nub...

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #83 on: Sat, 23 August 2014, 20:22:10 »
I'd guess the price is between lightsaver and viper/eagle.

I don't think having the acrylic piece in the middle plausible since it's a 1 piece design.

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #84 on: Fri, 29 August 2014, 17:42:00 »
http://duck0113.tistory.com/99
The metal sticker doesn't look bad at all, and I think we could have some extra to swap if we want to.  :p

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #85 on: Fri, 29 August 2014, 18:21:04 »
I'd guess the price is between lightsaver and viper/eagle.

I don't think having the acrylic piece in the middle plausible since it's a 1 piece design.

Interesting design!  I too thought that having an acrylic layer would be very cool, but from what I've seen of the Orion, it would also make the case / keyboard taller still.  I think there's merit to low laying cases and keyboards.  I'm able to use my LightSaver without a wrist rest, because the front is quite low.  If that's how the 70% board will be designed, I think it's a comfortable height.  I was initially scared of the 11-degree angle, but in practice, the Lightsaver has been a very comfortable keyboard for me (been my main keyboard for quite a while now). 

Another possibility would be to have a bottomless tray of sorts, where there's a large rectangular cut-out at the bottom of the tray, removing *most* of the bottom except a narrow ridge (say 1cm wide), and a transparent thick acrylic sheet is placed at the bottom, over the cut-out.  Then the acrylic sheet bolts from the top onto the ridges of the "tray", and the plate + PCB bolt onto the acrylic plate from the top (say into stand-offs).  That way you have the neat view of the finished PCB, and could still end up with some LEDs at the bottom, visible from the sides (as the case would be elevated slightly by its feet/pads).  That would of course reduce the overall weight (and price), but it would also be a potentially softer and "springier" board to type on.  Could laser something onto the bottom acrylic too.
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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #86 on: Fri, 29 August 2014, 18:52:23 »
Whoa photoelectric posted! ;)

Also that description made me think of this http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=35864.msg1451812.msg#1451812
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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #87 on: Fri, 29 August 2014, 20:31:10 »
i hope this is the order list  :thumb:
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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #88 on: Fri, 29 August 2014, 20:47:34 »
does RGB leds mean you can change the color at will? like the B.87 keyboard posted in the Korean thread a few days ago

link for reference: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=35864.msg1451812#msg1451812

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #89 on: Fri, 29 August 2014, 20:59:40 »
Screw an Alps 75%. A big issue already with 75% right now is keycap compatibility due to odd size mods. You people want to compound this issue with 99% of keycaps not being able to fit either?

A 75% with odd sized keys (invariable), and only fitting an extreme minority of keycaps would be all but unsellable.
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« Reply #90 on: Fri, 29 August 2014, 22:19:01 »
i could probably accept gold sticker :)
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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #91 on: Fri, 29 August 2014, 22:47:30 »
i hope this is the order list  :thumb:
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Nope, I am not able to get one, but I sure wish I could!
does RGB leds mean you can change the color at will? like the B.87 keyboard posted in the Korean thread a few days ago

link for reference: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=35864.msg1451812#msg1451812
I suggested in the design topic that the side LEDs be RGB so you could pick the colour instead of having to change them. I think DUck0113 made metal badges with our usernames because we contributed something.

If that's the case, then I think having RGBLEDs on the side is an awesome way to go.

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #92 on: Sat, 30 August 2014, 17:55:06 »
Screw an Alps 75%. A big issue already with 75% right now is keycap compatibility due to odd size mods. You people want to compound this issue with 99% of keycaps not being able to fit either?

A 75% with odd sized keys (invariable), and only fitting an extreme minority of keycaps would be all but unsellable.
The layout with bottom row
1.5 1.5 7 1.5 1.5 1 1 1
It's not uncommon at all (for ex. SGI Granite), the only problem can be the 1.75 shift
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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #93 on: Sat, 30 August 2014, 23:13:55 »
Really want it!
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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #94 on: Sat, 30 August 2014, 23:17:00 »
really want it as well  :p
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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #95 on: Mon, 01 September 2014, 10:17:43 »
This sounds interesting. I'll check back, hope it's happening.

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« Reply #96 on: Mon, 01 September 2014, 21:11:22 »
Have we got any mock up designs of what this could potentially look like yet or?
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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #97 on: Mon, 01 September 2014, 21:33:00 »
Have we got any mock up designs of what this could potentially look like yet or?


They've created a sample for the case.  PCB can still be worked out..I've asked for ISO support, so we'll see..

http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=453116&mid=board_Lsno50

Duck wants to put sticker in the middle insert, but I would rather have something engraved in it.

They are also planning on this:

http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_Lsno50&document_srl=435541

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #98 on: Mon, 15 September 2014, 16:20:21 »
sell it to meeeee

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #99 on: Mon, 15 September 2014, 17:30:31 »
ooo more new ducky keyboards. how interesting. I am in search of a TKL keyboard. tired of the normal ones that take up too much space.