[GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.

[samwisekoi]

SA Family Row 3 Profile
Bright White on Dark Green

BUY SOME NOW!
http://www.pimpmykeyboard.com/deals/nuclear-data-green-old-skool-sa-row-3-keycaps/


Nuclear Data Green by samwisekoi & Matt3o

All keycaps in this set are double-shot Bright White (WA) on Dark Green (VV), in tall, studly and spherical SA profile for maximum old skool-ness.  All keycaps are SA Row 3 profile in a semi-matte finish.  See the Interest Check thread for more details.


116-key beyond-complete base set.

Estimated base set cost (before taxes, shipping, etc., is $63 per set at 100+ sets!


20-key Radioactive Kit - estimated $12 at 25 sets

Ok, the Radioactive Kit has some keycaps in Bright White (WA) on Orange (OAS), but these are the only keycaps that aren't White-on-Green.


16-key Specialty Kit - estimated $23 at 25 sets


9-key ISO Kit - estimated $9 at 25 sets


9-key Winkeyless Kit - estimated $19 at 25 sets


Dvorak/Colemak Deep Dish Kit (non-homing F and J.  Deep dish U, H, T, and N). $3.00 flat rate.

Blanks and spacebars:
1x Blank      $0.25 each
1.25x Blank   $0.50 each
1.5x Blank   $0.75 each
1.75x Blank   $0.85 each (full touch or offset stepped)
2x Blank      $1.00 each
2x.25 Blank   $1.25 each
2x.75 Blank   $1.50 each
ISO Enter   $2.00 each
6.2 Unit SB   $4 each (AKA 6.25x or "Universal" spacebar)
7 Unit SB   $4 each

I do not have pricing on relegendables (1.0 or 2.0), timing or a decision on other row profile keycaps.

 - samwisekoi & Matt3o

[samwisekoi]

NEW FONTS ON IMAGES

This is not live on PMK yet, but I went through the "official" SVG file and updated all the alphas, numbers, and function key legends to better match what we expect will be on the keycaps.

Here is a full image of the initial sets.  (I will also update the alternative combinations, e.g. Dvorak/Colemak.)

This is as close to the actual final fonts as I can get with a mock-up. 

Note the sans-serif "I", the updated "J", the base-less "1". The awesome slashed zeros.

I'll send this to SP as-is and split up into little images for the website.

OK?

 - Ron | samwisekoi

[samwisekoi]

Quick Group Buy: Matching Re-Lengendables

Details to follow, but I am launching a three-week Group Buy for re-legendable keycaps to match Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3.

Green (VV) 1x

Green (VV) 2x wide

Orange (OAS) 1x

Orange (OAS) 2x wide

All with a clear cap with a glossy finish.

SA Row 3 Profile.

More details to follow.

 - Ron | samwisekoi

[SpAmRaY]

can't resist....

[HoffmanMyster]

    Great to see it go live (almost)!  And that pricing is excellent. 

[Ceedog]

Very interesting. Will have to get the nuke key at least.

[SSIPAK]

wow this is actually going to happen? i can't believe my eyes. 
btw is it possible for you to offer 6u spacebar?

Thanks

[rowdy]

Most excellent!

That is a price I can almost afford

C'mon people - we want orders!  Er, is it up yet?

[samwisekoi]

All the items and pricing we have is now in the OP of this thread.  The base kit has been submitted to SP via http://www.pimpmykeyboard.com and once the base set is up we will add the other kits and blanks.

Once the base kit goes up, it would be encouraging to see people sign up for that and then add other kits as I get them uploaded.

NOTE:  I do not have pricing on relegendables (1.0 or 2.0), 6u spacebars (although I expect them to be $4) or pricing, timing or a decision on other row profile keycaps.

 -  Ron | samwisekoi

[geniekid]

You should put the profile of the keys in the OP for people who haven't been following the IC

[danielucf]

No custom color to have it match the interest check keyboard more accurately?

[ApocalypseMaow]

Why you do dis...

[MarkPharaoh]

Really love that shade of green.

[HoffmanMyster]

Why you do dis...

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Oooh, look at you catching all that money in your wallet like a responsible individual.  Kudos to you.   :thumb:

[Heliosphere]

Why you do dis...

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Oooh, look at you catching all that money in your wallet like a responsible individual.  Kudos to you.   :thumb:

Lucky man. For some people money just appears out of air.

[rowdy]

Why you do dis...

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Oooh, look at you catching all that money in your wallet like a responsible individual.  Kudos to you.   :thumb:

Lucky man. For some people money just appears out of air.

Yeah - money doesn't grow on trees!

Unless you are using leaves as currency.

In which case it probably does grow on trees.

[Elrick]

Yeah - money doesn't grow on trees!

Unless you are using leaves as currency.

In which case it probably does grow on trees.

It's all in the ground under your feet  .  For some it means nothing but dirt for others is worth billions, after more than 4000 years of so-called modern human habitation the minerals under your feet is still the most valuable source of immense wealth and prosperity.

Fvck being anything else, just learn to dig and move tons of earth like a 90kg Ant and you'll do well  .

[samwisekoi]

No custom color to have it match the interest check keyboard more accurately?

No, thank you.

Really love that shade of green.

Thank you.

Why you do dis...

Because people have been demanding it for like two years.

You should put the profile of the keys in the OP for people who haven't been following the IC

Thanks.  Done.

Descriptions and images for all kits have been uploaded to SP for approval.  I do not know how we/they will handle blanks yet.

 - Ron | samwisekoi

p.s.  I'm a gonna be trimmin' this thread if it gets OT.  Profiles and plastics are on-topic.  Existential discussions of economics or monetary theory are off-topic.

[Zebadule]

The non-homing G in the deep dish kit looks like it may have meant to be a J.

All around a cool set.

[Latin00032]

What keyboard supports a 6.2 space bar? Wish I could be part of this. glws.

[SpAmRaY]

What keyboard supports a 6.2 space bar? Wish I could be part of this. glws.

6.2 I believe is the same as 6.25 which is the standard spacebar sizing for most common boards with 1.25 mods, filco, ducky, qfr etc.

[Latin00032]

What keyboard supports a 6.2 space bar? Wish I could be part of this. glws.

6.2 I believe is the same as 6.25 which is the standard spacebar sizing for most common boards with 1.25 mods, filco, ducky, qfr etc.

what about 6u?

[Elrick]

What keyboard supports a 6.2 space bar? Wish I could be part of this. glws.

6.2 I believe is the same as 6.25 which is the standard spacebar sizing for most common boards with 1.25 mods, filco, ducky, qfr etc.

what about 6u?

A bloody G80-1865 uses that size, a real pain when it comes to Group Buys because SP doesn't have the molding for fitment to these brilliant keyboards  .

I think the current 660M uses that size as well........

[SSIPAK]

What keyboard supports a 6.2 space bar? Wish I could be part of this. glws.

6.2 I believe is the same as 6.25 which is the standard spacebar sizing for most common boards with 1.25 mods, filco, ducky, qfr etc.

what about 6u?

A bloody G80-1865 uses that size, a real pain when it comes to Group Buys because SP doesn't have the molding for fitment to these brilliant keyboards  .

I think the current 660M uses that size as well........

SP can actually make 6u spacebars, thats why I asked for it in this thread

[Elrick]

You should put the profile of the keys in the OP for people who haven't been following the IC

Indeed correct put it in BIG type print SA Profile ONLY.

I think after that they will know what that means  .

[rowdy]

You should put the profile of the keys in the OP for people who haven't been following the IC

Indeed correct put it in BIG type print SA Profile ONLY.

I think after that they will know what that means  .

The thread title is not sufficient?

[Elrick]

The thread title is not sufficient?

Yes, I think it's the new ones that have signed on here at GH.  The SA is hidden between the "Green" and "Row" words which can be difficult to view quickly  .

You have to have a little compassion for our 'newlings' here because this is a big place which can get quite confusing to the uninitiated.

[rowdy]

Yes, I think it's the new ones that have signed on here at GH.  The SA is hidden between the "Green" and "Row" words which can be difficult to view quickly  .

You have to have a little compassion for our 'newlings' here because this is a big place which can get quite confusing to the uninitiated.

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50532.0



I read very carefully when I am committing to buy something.  I won't commit unless I am sure what I am getting, and once committed I won't back out!

[Latin00032]

This might be a difficult question to answer but, since Novatouch stems and stabilizers have been confirmed to swap with a hhkb and fc660c, can the 6x spacebar of this set theoretically work with a hhkb or fc660c once the swaps have been completed?

[nomaded]

Any chance of getting some blank ErgoDox modifiers as an option?

[ApocalypseMaow]

Why you do dis...

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Oooh, look at you catching all that money in your wallet like a responsible individual.  Kudos to you.   :thumb:

Glass half full kinda guy.  :p

[dorkvader]

Awesome! This keycap set is one of my favourite colourways. I can't wait to see everyone's pictures.

Looks like I'll have to add more stuff to the F/S listing I'll have to make

[samwisekoi]

Any chance of getting some blank ErgoDox modifiers as an option?

Other than the ones listed in the OP?

The non-homing G in the deep dish kit looks like it may have meant to be a J.

All around a cool set.

Fixed.  Thanks!

What keyboard supports a 6.2 space bar? Wish I could be part of this. glws.

SP calls 6.25 "6.2"  Fits most (MOST) modern keyboards.

What keyboard supports a 6.2 space bar? Wish I could be part of this. glws.

6.2 I believe is the same as 6.25 which is the standard spacebar sizing for most common boards with 1.25 mods, filco, ducky, qfr etc.

what about 6u?

SP does not have a 6.00 spacebar in SA profile.  Sorry.  Same with 10.00 spacebars.  Still sorry.

We could have either of those shot in DCS profile, but their profiles would not match.


SA Profile in black; DCS profile in blue.

Hmmm.  Maybe reverse-mounted on the keyboard?

 - Ron | samwisekoi

[Data]

I'm blowing up my F5 key waiting for the link to appear...

[nomaded]

Any chance of getting some blank ErgoDox modifiers as an option?

Other than the ones listed in the OP?

Ah. I misread what you meant by "1 Space $0.25 each". Ok, that works.

So, if I'm doing my math right, it'll be:

base - $63
20 x 1u - $5
12 x 1.5u - $9
4 x 2u - $4

$81 for the base set and enough blanks for an ErgoDox. Count me in on this one.

[samwisekoi]

Fixed the OP to make the blanks easier to understand.  (That was a cut-and-paste from SP.)

Also have worked out that we cannot get 6.0 or 1.0 spacebars.  Matt3o has DCS and SA kits and made a physical comparison and they just don't go together,  Sorry; we are dropping the idea of including DCS spacebars of any length in this buy, so 6.0x and 10x spacebars are out.

Everything has been uploaded to SP at http://www.pimpmykeyboard.com and as soon as they are ready to release we are good to order AFAIK.

Here are the kits/items:
Nuclear Data Green Old-Skool SA Row 3 Keycaps (116-key Base Kit)
16-key Specialty Kit
20-key Radioactive Kit
6-key Dvorak/Colemak Kit
9-key ISO Kit
9-key Winkeyless Kit

6.2 Unit Spacebar in Dark Green (VV)
7 Unit Spacebar in Dark Green (VV)

Blank 1x Keycap in Dark Green (VV)
Blank 1.25x Keycap in Dark Green (VV)
Blank 1.50x Keycap in Dark Green (VV)
Blank 1.75x Keycap in Dark Green (VV)
Blank 2x Keycap in Dark Green (VV)
Blank 2.25x Keycap in Dark Green (VV)
Blank 2.75x Keycap in Dark Green (VV)

Blank ISO Enter Keycap in Dark Green (VV)

 - Ron | samwisekoi

[mtl]

Thank you samwisekoi and matt3o for putting this together. Looks great and I love the DEF CON key.

[Elrick]

Here are the kits/items:
Nuclear Data Green Old-Skool SA Row 3 Keycaps (116-key Base Kit)
16-key Specialty Kit
20-key Radioactive Kit
6-key Dvorak/Colemak Kit
9-key ISO Kit
9-key Winkeyless Kit

6.2 Unit Spacebar in Dark Green (VV)
7 Unit Spacebar in Dark Green (VV)

Blank 1x Keycap in Dark Green (VV)
Blank 1.25x Keycap in Dark Green (VV)
Blank 1.50x Keycap in Dark Green (VV)
Blank 1.75x Keycap in Dark Green (VV)
Blank 2x Keycap in Dark Green (VV)
Blank 2.25x Keycap in Dark Green (VV)
Blank 2.75x Keycap in Dark Green (VV)

Blank ISO Enter Keycap in Dark Green (VV)

 - Ron | samwisekoi

The pricing should be the cheapest for any SA Profile released thus far (if you want to make comparisons).

So there's no excuse to NOT buy less than 2 complete key-sets with Radioactive Sets and of course the mandatory extra Space Bars, for most keyboards  .

Thank you Sam and Matt for making this happen.

[blighty]

Shouldn't the Vendor-run group buy be hidden in Signature Plastics' Vendor Subforum?

[danielucf]

I believe Signature Plastics can do 8x and 9x SA spacebars, any chance you can add that and if orders get there then so be it? I don't see how adding it could hurt.

[DanielT]

Shouldn't the Vendor-run group buy be hidden in Signature Plastics' Vendor Subforum?

I was wondering the same thing myself ...

[Oobly]

Shouldn't the Vendor-run group buy be hidden in Signature Plastics' Vendor Subforum?

I was wondering the same thing myself ...

I for one am glad it isn't. Gives it a chance at actually getting seen by people and may actually meet MOQ then.

[DanielT]

It's a good thing that is not hidden, it has the chance to get the right amount of exposure that a GB needs, especially when you a have a short time span to reach the MOQ 

[SpAmRaY]

Shouldn't the Vendor-run group buy be hidden in Signature Plastics' Vendor Subforum?

This could get interesting....maybe it depends on who runs the group buy as to where it gets its exposure....

[sir_derpenheimer]

yep. definitely buying these.

[samwisekoi]

I believe Signature Plastics can do 8x and 9x SA spacebars, any chance you can add that and if orders get there then so be it? I don't see how adding it could hurt.

I have no objection, but those were down-voted as "meh" in the IC phase.

Shouldn't the Vendor-run group buy be hidden in Signature Plastics' Vendor Subforum?

Well, so far "the vendor" hasn't done any actual work on this group buy.  They have responded to quotes and told us which of our desired legends were and were not available.

All of the design, planning, documentation, interaction with forum members, posting, creating multiple versions of machine-ready artwork, creating images for upload, uploading descriptions and images, and everything else so far?

samwisekoi and Matt3o

Oh, and the two of us made all of the decisions required so far, including my STRONG DESIRE not to repeat the fulfillment and post-shipping support effort I went through for Retro DSA.

Make no mistake, SP is making and shipping the keycaps.  They have systems for that.  But this is not a vendor-run group buy.

(Plus all of the other reasons listed above by other people.)

The pricing should be the cheapest for any SA Profile released thus far (if you want to make comparisons).

So there's no excuse to NOT buy less than 2 complete key-sets with Radioactive Sets and of course the mandatory extra Space Bars, for most keyboards  .

Thank you Sam and Matt for making this happen.

You are correct and very welcome!

 - Ron | samwisekoi

[SpAmRaY]

Shouldn't the Vendor-run group buy be hidden in Signature Plastics' Vendor Subforum?

Well, so far "the vendor" hasn't done any actual work on this group buy.  They have responded to quotes and told us which of our desired legends were and were not available.

All of the design, planning, documentation, interaction with forum members, posting, creating multiple versions of machine-ready artwork, creating images for upload, uploading descriptions and images, and everything else so far?

samwisekoi and Matt3o

Oh, and the two of us made all of the decisions required so far, including my STRONG DESIRE not to repeat the fulfillment and post-shipping support effort I went through for Retro DSA.

Make no mistake, SP is making and shipping the keycaps.  They have systems for that.  But this is not a vendor-run group buy.

(Plus all of the other reasons listed above by other people.)

 - Ron | samwisekoi

The reason the question was asked is every other group buy using SP's PMK website has been forced to be in the SP subforum for good or bad.

for reference http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=55800.0

[Elrick]

Well, so far "the vendor" hasn't done any actual work on this group buy.  They have responded to quotes and told us which of our desired legends were and were not available.

All of the design, planning, documentation, interaction with forum members, posting, creating multiple versions of machine-ready artwork, creating images for upload, uploading descriptions and images, and everything else so far?

samwisekoi and Matt3o

Oh, and the two of us made all of the decisions required so far, including my STRONG DESIRE not to repeat the fulfillment and post-shipping support effort I went through for Retro DSA.

Make no mistake, SP is making and shipping the keycaps.  They have systems for that.  But this is not a vendor-run group buy.

(Plus all of the other reasons listed above by other people.)

 - Ron | samwisekoi

I knew there was a reason why I loved this man, he actually hit the nail on the head for the reason's why this process should be held in this "GROUP BUY" section  .

Maybe that is why certain GB's failed to reach MOQ due to hiding all the Group Buys in their secluded section, hence most new people wouldn't know where to read or see what's going on.  Besides if SP actually designed this key-set from the get go then they can actually keep it in their vendor forum but this key-set has been designed and organized here in this area (section of Geekhack) for some time.

I firmly believe that Signature Plastics should ALWAYS be just a manufacturer and nothing more, so let's keep it that way.  I'm sure they are still in business today due to ONLY making key-caps, if someone here thinks that it's NOT please state here what exactly is their business?

That is what drew me here in the first place all those years ago when it came to getting my hands on some tasty key-caps, it all started HERE in this section of Geekhack.  I hope this will be the future of most Group Buys because it provides ease of access and complete updates to your chosen key-cap purchase.  There is no offense to SP here but I have always wanted Group Buys to stay in this section for everyone to read and see what's going on.  When the organizers themselves have actually designed the caps and spent all of their own valuable time and effort in this important phase then they have the right to choose whereabouts to keep informing people on this process.

Thanks Sam and Matt3o for choosing to stay here, we all appreciate it greatly  .

[GSimon]

The reason the question was asked is every other group buy using SP's PMK website has been forced to be in the SP subforum for good or bad.

for reference http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=55800.0

Yea no one's denying who was involved in the design process, it just makes sense for GH to take a stance on whether or not it should be held here or in the vendor group buy, as other group buys didn't get this same treatment.

The long justifications for why it should or shouldn't be here are not the point, it's that they're allowing this one to be here as the exception, so it should be like this for all PMK's GBs or none at all. Mods weigh in on this maybe? And stick to your guns from here on out as to not place favouritism?

[samwisekoi]

Huh.  Apparently this hullabaloo happened while I was away from the forum this Spring.  I am angry right now, so I'll post briefly.

Elrick, you were an early and vocal supporter of this set, which was proposed long before SP got off their behinds and gave GB organizers some tools.  Thank you for that and for your kind words.

I just read that whole thread, and I am 100% in agreement with jdcarpe's first post (before he was disempowered.)

Anyone who believes that a vendor is taking advantage of me in this group buy has not met me.  And I am pretty sure I have met nearly everyone posting with authority in that thread.

I was away while those final decisions were made.  I am not away now.  I shall now go interact with other Admins and Mods on the topic.

However, as I promised, this thread is to promote some freakin' AWESOME KEYCAPS.

Thanks for the heads up on that other thread.  I'll go deal with it.  In the meantime, let's talk about spacebars and profiles here.

HERE.

 - Ron | samwisekoi