Author Topic: VOTE: CHERRY MX GREEN or BUCKLING SPRING (Read 10587 times)

sagi22n · « **on:** Sun, 10 August 2014, 09:45:08 »

NEW:" my understanding that BUCKLING SPRING is for GAMING why some of you say its not for gaming?
is it or isn't it?

HERE IS YOU CHANCE TO MAKE A VOTE THAT COUNTS
i am developing a new gaming keyboard, form data collected from all over the web.
the main topic is the key mechanism. assuming same keyboard was available for the same price,

WHICH ONE WILL YOU BUY?

CHERRY MX GREEN or BUCKLING SPRING

the first to get 100 votes win and it will be the next keyboard i am making.
i will randomly select one of the voters to get 1 free keyboard when its ready.
and every one that vote will get 15% off coupon.

Vibex · « **Reply #1 on:** Sun, 10 August 2014, 09:48:15 »

I would go Buckling spring, but I wouldn't really want to use either for gaming. $:-\$

isaske · « **Reply #2 on:** Sun, 10 August 2014, 10:00:33 »

I would go for buckling spring, since i didn't try it yet.

HipsterPunks · « **Reply #3 on:** Sun, 10 August 2014, 10:05:38 »

60% buckling spring

pasph · « **Reply #4 on:** Sun, 10 August 2014, 10:14:00 »

BS obviously

domoaligato · « **Reply #5 on:** Sun, 10 August 2014, 10:15:18 »

60% bs in gh60 max keys layout.

divito · « **Reply #6 on:** Sun, 10 August 2014, 10:18:47 »

I miss buckling spring, and don't currently own one, so I'd go for that. Plus, I already have and use a green.

Defect · « **Reply #7 on:** Sun, 10 August 2014, 10:20:58 »

Easiest vote of my life.

Buckling Spring.

Edit: If it's for gaming neither are ideal. But BS would win again anyways.

Candyflip · « **Reply #8 on:** Sun, 10 August 2014, 10:23:10 »

Buckling spring

absyrd · « **Reply #9 on:** Sun, 10 August 2014, 10:31:17 »

Buckling spring, please.

CPTBadAss · « **Reply #10 on:** Sun, 10 August 2014, 10:56:56 »

Why not both? I have both and I love them. But if I had to choose? Buckling spring.

snoopy · « **Reply #11 on:** Sun, 10 August 2014, 10:59:18 »

BS of course (if you have to decide)

but it doesnt hurt to try both...

FrostyToast · « **Reply #12 on:** Sun, 10 August 2014, 11:01:18 »

If you were actually able to make a BS board of quality, I would take it hands down over green!

ComradeSniper · « **Reply #13 on:** Sun, 10 August 2014, 11:10:24 »

Buckling spring, absolutely.

ShawnMeg · « **Reply #14 on:** Sun, 10 August 2014, 11:22:46 »

HPE1000 · « **Reply #15 on:** Sun, 10 August 2014, 11:25:05 »

Buckling Spring > Greens

tribade · « **Reply #16 on:** Sun, 10 August 2014, 11:50:59 »

I like greens, but I want to see someone make a new (better looking) BS keyboard so I vote buckling spring. Preferably of the TKL or smaller variety.

absyrd · « **Reply #17 on:** Sun, 10 August 2014, 11:52:18 »

Well... lock it up. I think we have our answer.

Harrowed · « **Reply #18 on:** Sun, 10 August 2014, 11:52:30 »

Quote from: sagi22n on Sun, 10 August 2014, 09:45:08

i am developing a new gaming keyboard, form data collected from all over the web.
the main topic is the key mechanism. assuming same keyboard was available for the same price,

WHICH ONE WILL YOU BUY?

CHERRY MX GREEN or BUCKLING SPRING

What? I don't even... My vote is for buckling spring but seriously?

)

ComradeSniper · « **Reply #19 on:** Sun, 10 August 2014, 11:55:03 »

Quote from: Harrowed on Sun, 10 August 2014, 11:52:30

Quote from: sagi22n on Sun, 10 August 2014, 09:45:08
i am developing a new gaming keyboard, form data collected from all over the web.
the main topic is the key mechanism. assuming same keyboard was available for the same price,

WHICH ONE WILL YOU BUY?

CHERRY MX GREEN or BUCKLING SPRING
What? I don't even... My vote is for buckling spring but seriously? )

Ssshhh, don't complain

)

Harrowed · « **Reply #20 on:** Sun, 10 August 2014, 11:57:44 »

Quote from: ComradeSniper on Sun, 10 August 2014, 11:55:03

Ssshhh, don't complain )

Not complaining but this needs more details

Hak Foo · « **Reply #21 on:** Sun, 10 August 2014, 12:17:17 »

I like buckling spring too, but I want to know how you intend to solve the logistical problems of manufacturing a new buckling spring board.

MX switches, it's just a matter of placing an order and waiting. Buckling springs would be basically starting from scratch.

absyrd · « **Reply #22 on:** Sun, 10 August 2014, 12:18:04 »

Quote from: Hak Foo on Sun, 10 August 2014, 12:17:17

MX switches, it's just a matter of placing an order and waiting. Buckling springs would be basically starting from scratch.

Shush! Do not discourage him!

epzy · « **Reply #23 on:** Sun, 10 August 2014, 12:18:53 »

Jotokun · « **Reply #24 on:** Sun, 10 August 2014, 12:48:49 »

Buckling Springs. No contest. If you can pull it off, you'll see a good number of sales considering the only new option for them is Unicomp.

I'll admit I haven't used MX Greens, but I don't like how Blues feel and making them heavier wouldn't help much. Cherry clicky just feels cheap.

LechnerDE · « **Reply #25 on:** Sun, 10 August 2014, 12:50:36 »

Buckling Spring for sure!

samwisekoi · « **Reply #26 on:** Sun, 10 August 2014, 13:30:03 »

I have both already, and I don't understand how people could want to GAME on a B/S keyboard.

My Model M is my daily driver, but I always pull out another keyboard to game. Typically it is a Ducky 108 with MX Greens.

Also, patents?

- Ron | samwisekoi

sagi22n · « **Reply #27 on:** Sun, 10 August 2014, 14:11:50 »

Quote from: HipsterPunks on Sun, 10 August 2014, 10:05:38

60% buckling spring

what do you mean which one will be buckling and which green?
not sure its passable buy i can check

Puddsy · « **Reply #28 on:** Sun, 10 August 2014, 14:33:19 »

greens are better for gaming, but are too heavy to actually game on

BS is good to type on but 2kro is bleh

fohat.digs · « **Reply #29 on:** Sun, 10 August 2014, 14:49:55 »

I love buckling springs and use them almost exclusively, but I don't game. My understanding is that they are not that great for gaming, and, although my Fs are NKRO, the Ms aren't.

There are a lot of people who would love to see a new modern BS keyboard hit the market, but probably not gamers.

I got my son a Filco TKL with black Cherries and strategically-placed O-rings (to cut travel distance and speed up reset time) on about a dozen specific keys, and he thinks he is in gaming heaven.

I recommend that you look towards something resembling "jailhouse greens" to really get gamers going.

sagi22n · « **Reply #30 on:** Sun, 10 August 2014, 19:42:27 »

BUCKLING SPRING keyboard is it good for gaming?

Sniping · « **Reply #31 on:** Sun, 10 August 2014, 19:56:11 »

Quote from: sagi22n on Sun, 10 August 2014, 19:42:27

BUCKLING SPRING keyboard is it good for gaming?

Not really, but you can do fine with any switch for gaming. The biggest issue is having the right layout (usually it's a small layout) and making sure that the switches don't make your fingers tired.

jonathanyu · « **Reply #32 on:** Sun, 10 August 2014, 20:16:03 »

I like both of them, but for gaming, I need to vote for mx green.

BS for gaming just doesn't feel right to me...

Novus · « **Reply #33 on:** Sun, 10 August 2014, 20:34:12 »

Buckling spring goodness !!!

noisyturtle · « **Reply #34 on:** Sun, 10 August 2014, 20:56:22 »

BS, no contest

JPG · « **Reply #35 on:** Sun, 10 August 2014, 21:25:04 »

BS for sure and if you can manage to make it capacitive BS AKA Model F then it would be glorious!

And to those that say it's not nice for gaming, well I use my model F for gaming and it's super nice. Not saying cherry is bad, but I prefer the fell of BS by far.

It just feels so solid and clicky!

rowdy · « **Reply #36 on:** Sun, 10 August 2014, 21:30:08 »

Both. With a slight preference for BS.

PointyFox · « **Reply #37 on:** Sun, 10 August 2014, 22:04:50 »

Neither are any good for gaming. If I had to choose, I'd go with buckling spring since it doesn't have the reset point issue.

Lingj · « **Reply #38 on:** Sun, 10 August 2014, 22:07:12 »

BS fosho!

Puddsy · « **Reply #39 on:** Sun, 10 August 2014, 22:09:44 »

Quote from: sagi22n on Sun, 10 August 2014, 19:42:27

BUCKLING SPRING keyboard is it good for gaming?

no

Puddsy · « **Reply #40 on:** Sun, 10 August 2014, 22:15:53 »

Wait a second, you realize that it's actually impossible to build a BS keyboard from scratch, right?

berserkfan · « **Reply #41 on:** Mon, 11 August 2014, 04:04:34 »

buckling springs!

Oobly · « **Reply #42 on:** Mon, 11 August 2014, 04:09:10 »

Capacitive Buckling Spring, but only for typing, NOT FOR GAMING. I don't like switches with hysteresis (different actuation and reset points) for gaming (MX Blues, Greens, Whites and Buckling Spring).

LechnerDE · « **Reply #43 on:** Mon, 11 August 2014, 04:11:09 »

Why are you guys so focussed on the gaming part?

After all everybody can use the keyboard for whatever he likes.

I just chose BS, because I'd love to have a modern TKL BS board!

Oobly · « **Reply #44 on:** Mon, 11 August 2014, 06:04:47 »

Quote from: LechnerDE on Mon, 11 August 2014, 04:11:09

Why are you guys so focussed on the gaming part?
...

From the OP:

Quote from: sagi22n on Sun, 10 August 2014, 09:45:08

NEW:" my understanding that BUCKLING SPRING is for GAMING why some of you say its not for gaming?
is it or isn't it?

...
i am developing a new gaming keyboard...

Quote from: TacticalStache on Sun, 10 August 2014, 22:15:53

Wait a second, you realize that it's actually impossible to build a BS keyboard from scratch, right?

It's not impossible, just not easy. You need to make a plate (molded from plastic including slider tubes or from metal with molded plastic slider tubes that can be fitted) and PCB and design the PCB and sensors very well so it can sense correctly. Or you can use a membrane design, with the membrane between the plate and PCB / backplate, but I think capacitive sensing is both more robust and more interesting. You can buy the springs and pivoting plates (hammers). If you want to mass produce it, you'll probably have to buy stuff from Unicomp in bulk.

If I were making a gaming keyboard I would offer 2 versions, one with MX Clears and one with MX Blacks. I may even offer a few "customised" versions with swapped springs (Ghost Blacks and Panda Clears).

Karura · « **Reply #45 on:** Mon, 11 August 2014, 07:10:13 »

Honestly I can't say since I've never tried BS, but if they are lighter than MX Greens which I have tried, then YES, buckling springs!

CPTBadAss · « **Reply #46 on:** Mon, 11 August 2014, 07:18:40 »

I used to play borderlands on an ssk, definitely not a bad thing except you'll done your friends crazy if you're on voice chat.

sagi22n · « **Reply #47 on:** Mon, 11 August 2014, 08:20:14 »

UNICOMP IS SELLING buckling spring KEYBOARD FOR UNDER 100$ SO WHY NOT BUY FROM THEM?
i am trying to build the ultimate gaming keyboard so first i like to know what most gamers prefer to type on.

adrl · « **Reply #48 on:** Mon, 11 August 2014, 08:33:30 »

Buckling Springs would be cool.

fohat.digs · « **Reply #49 on:** Mon, 11 August 2014, 08:58:18 »

Quote from: sagi22n on Mon, 11 August 2014, 08:20:14

what most gamers prefer to type on.

Usually the word "type" refers to writing such as documents, coding, etc.

It is generally understood that typers and gamers have very different needs and expectations.

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Author Topic: VOTE: CHERRY MX GREEN or BUCKLING SPRING (Read 10587 times)