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Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
« Reply #50 on: Thu, 14 August 2014, 09:31:33 »
i'm interested as well

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Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
« Reply #51 on: Thu, 14 August 2014, 09:49:05 »
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Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
« Reply #52 on: Thu, 14 August 2014, 10:40:52 »
I like this.  I would buy one.

Not a fan of the modifier layout and sizing though.  I'd much rather see a 1x left win or the option to omit that entirely, shift the spacebar over, and have another function key on the right.  But that's just me.

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Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
« Reply #53 on: Thu, 14 August 2014, 11:00:28 »
I like this.  I would buy one.

Not a fan of the modifier layout and sizing though.  I'd much rather see a 1x left win or the option to omit that entirely, shift the spacebar over, and have another function key on the right.  But that's just me.

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Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
« Reply #54 on: Thu, 14 August 2014, 12:34:28 »
Wow, this looks fantastic, definitely interested, physical build looks close to perfect!

That being said, I'd definitely want to be able to customize the layout in a lot of ways (caps->ctrl or fn, windows key to fn, being able to customize the fn layer). Programmable would be great, but firmware customizability would be even better.

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Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
« Reply #55 on: Thu, 14 August 2014, 12:43:33 »
I would be in for one, sounds really cool. :thumb:

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Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
« Reply #56 on: Thu, 14 August 2014, 12:45:31 »
I like this.  I would buy one.

Not a fan of the modifier layout and sizing though.  I'd much rather see a 1x left win or the option to omit that entirely, shift the spacebar over, and have another function key on the right.  But that's just me.

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But... how will I do Win+L and Win+R?   :-[

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Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
« Reply #57 on: Thu, 14 August 2014, 14:16:54 »
I like this.  I would buy one.

Not a fan of the modifier layout and sizing though.  I'd much rather see a 1x left win or the option to omit that entirely, shift the spacebar over, and have another function key on the right.  But that's just me.

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But... how will I do Win+L and Win+R?   :-[

Have one of them as a hidden windows key! CTRL ALT space WIN (CTRL/ALT/MENU/FN)
Your keyboard has never looked prettier! [I use win+E all the time, R, didn't know about L!]

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Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
« Reply #58 on: Thu, 14 August 2014, 14:58:12 »
I like this.  I would buy one.

Not a fan of the modifier layout and sizing though.  I'd much rather see a 1x left win or the option to omit that entirely, shift the spacebar over, and have another function key on the right.  But that's just me.

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But... how will I do Win+L and Win+R?   :-[

I have never found a need for right ctrl or right alt to exist, so I would make one of those an fn key and the other the win key.


In the above, hyper would be win and code would be fn. 

It makes win+E a bit more awkward, but I'm okay with that.

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Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
« Reply #59 on: Thu, 14 August 2014, 15:07:22 »
I like this.  I would buy one.

Not a fan of the modifier layout and sizing though.  I'd much rather see a 1x left win or the option to omit that entirely, shift the spacebar over, and have another function key on the right.  But that's just me.

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But... how will I do Win+L and Win+R?   :-[

I have never found a need for right ctrl or right alt to exist, so I would make one of those an fn key and the other the win key.

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In the above, hyper would be win and code would be fn. 

It makes win+E a bit more awkward, but I'm okay with that.

Exactly. I just two hand most win combos now. No problem really, left hand is always over there anyway. :P
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Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
« Reply #60 on: Thu, 14 August 2014, 16:11:36 »
Have one of them as a hidden windows key! CTRL ALT space WIN (CTRL/ALT/MENU/FN)
Your keyboard has never looked prettier! [I use win+E all the time, R, didn't know about L!]

So you're saying I should trade a 2-key combo for a 4-key combo?

You're not a big fan of efficiency I take it?  ;D

I have never found a need for right ctrl or right alt to exist, so I would make one of those an fn key and the other the win key.

Show Image

In the above, hyper would be win and code would be fn. 

It makes win+E a bit more awkward, but I'm okay with that.

Yeah, maybe.  I don't really use the R-Alt or R-Ctrl.  Would make Win+L a lot easier, but shifts the hand acrobatics over to Win+R.  Not sure how I feel about two-handing a Win+R combination.  I'd have to try it.

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Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
« Reply #61 on: Thu, 14 August 2014, 17:31:31 »
Have one of them as a hidden windows key! CTRL ALT space WIN (CTRL/ALT/MENU/FN)
Your keyboard has never looked prettier! [I use win+E all the time, R, didn't know about L!]

So you're saying I should trade a 2-key combo for a 4-key combo?

You're not a big fan of efficiency I take it?  ;D

I have never found a need for right ctrl or right alt to exist, so I would make one of those an fn key and the other the win key.

Show Image

In the above, hyper would be win and code would be fn. 

It makes win+E a bit more awkward, but I'm okay with that.

Yeah, maybe.  I don't really use the R-Alt or R-Ctrl.  Would make Win+L a lot easier, but shifts the hand acrobatics over to Win+R.  Not sure how I feel about two-handing a Win+R combination.  I'd have to try it.

I'm sorry, four key combo? It's still just win+r.
I'm saying remove the superfluous 1.25 mods [right win, right ctrl, right alt]
I wrote (CTRL/ALT/MENU/FN) to mean your last 1.5 mod could be whatever you wanted.
On a tkl you don't need FN.
As Hoff pointed out, r-Alt and r-Ctrl are nearly useless.
And I personally don't use the menu key, but some people might.

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Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
« Reply #62 on: Thu, 14 August 2014, 19:59:47 »
I like this.  I would buy one.

Not a fan of the modifier layout and sizing though.  I'd much rather see a 1x left win or the option to omit that entirely, shift the spacebar over, and have another function key on the right.  But that's just me.

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Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
« Reply #63 on: Fri, 15 August 2014, 08:05:57 »
Have one of them as a hidden windows key! CTRL ALT space WIN (CTRL/ALT/MENU/FN)
Your keyboard has never looked prettier! [I use win+E all the time, R, didn't know about L!]

So you're saying I should trade a 2-key combo for a 4-key combo?

You're not a big fan of efficiency I take it?  ;D

I have never found a need for right ctrl or right alt to exist, so I would make one of those an fn key and the other the win key.

Show Image

In the above, hyper would be win and code would be fn. 

It makes win+E a bit more awkward, but I'm okay with that.

Yeah, maybe.  I don't really use the R-Alt or R-Ctrl.  Would make Win+L a lot easier, but shifts the hand acrobatics over to Win+R.  Not sure how I feel about two-handing a Win+R combination.  I'd have to try it.

I'm sorry, four key combo? It's still just win+r.
I'm saying remove the superfluous 1.25 mods [right win, right ctrl, right alt]
I wrote (CTRL/ALT/MENU/FN) to mean your last 1.5 mod could be whatever you wanted.
On a tkl you don't need FN.
As Hoff pointed out, r-Alt and r-Ctrl are nearly useless.
And I personally don't use the menu key, but some people might.

OK, I totally misunderstood what you were suggesting.  When you said a hidden Windows key, I thought you were saying it could be the spacebar and Ctrl+Alt+Space would simulate the Win key.  That would make Win+R (for example) a 4-key combo.   :confused:

Thanks for clearing it up for me.

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Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
« Reply #64 on: Fri, 15 August 2014, 09:17:02 »
This is pretty awesome. I'm not a big MX fan but I might get one of these anyway.

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Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
« Reply #65 on: Sun, 17 August 2014, 13:07:45 »
I am relieved to see that it is a 68key.

Please continue making small keyboards, Feng.

As long as it doesn't offer enough keys (functionality) for me, I will not spend my $300. Whew.

otherwise the design features are too awesome to miss. I'd be overspending as usual...
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Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
« Reply #66 on: Sun, 17 August 2014, 13:31:44 »
I almost can't imagine spending that much on a keyboard, but then I read the description again, and I can't imagine not getting this. Consider me very interested. I've been looking for a 60%-ish layout + arrow keys that is both aesthetically appealing and customizable. You are making all my dreams come true.
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Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
« Reply #67 on: Sun, 17 August 2014, 13:37:48 »
Does anybody happen to know how these hot-swappable switches work?  Some kind of female header, I assume.  I'm looking to build a keyboard, and I might want to try that.

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Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
« Reply #68 on: Sun, 17 August 2014, 17:19:55 »
Sorry, just a little bump,
do we have a timeline for this buy?

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Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
« Reply #69 on: Sun, 17 August 2014, 17:28:25 »

Sorry, just a little bump,
do we have a timeline for this buy?

Feng mentioned if it works out with massdrop a GB could start in approx 3 weeks. Hopefully that happens!

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Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
« Reply #70 on: Sun, 17 August 2014, 17:50:13 »

Sorry, just a little bump,
do we have a timeline for this buy?

Feng mentioned if it works out with massdrop a GB could start in approx 3 weeks. Hopefully that happens!

Yeah I was hoping for a little update on this. :)

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Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
« Reply #71 on: Sun, 17 August 2014, 20:34:38 »
Great work.  :thumb:
The most difficult is to find a reason to get one. :D The price without switches could be one reason.
« Last Edit: Sun, 17 August 2014, 20:41:56 by Hanni »

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Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
« Reply #72 on: Sun, 17 August 2014, 23:45:51 »
Would buy!

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Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
« Reply #73 on: Sun, 17 August 2014, 23:47:01 »
I'd have to say yes, yes I would buy this.
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Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
« Reply #74 on: Sun, 17 August 2014, 23:49:30 »
Feng, I forget, did that tentative price of $300 include any switches? Or just a kit?

Also, it needs to be a nice purple. If any color has to be included, definitely purple :)

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Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
« Reply #75 on: Sun, 17 August 2014, 23:56:54 »
Support for 1.5-1.5-7-1.5-1.5-1-1-1 bottom row. I beg you!
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Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
« Reply #76 on: Mon, 18 August 2014, 00:00:14 »
Time to start saving funds for this one.
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Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
« Reply #77 on: Mon, 18 August 2014, 00:25:49 »
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Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
« Reply #78 on: Mon, 18 August 2014, 00:32:25 »
I like this board a lot, the keyboard layout works fine for me too.

Lots of great features, can't find one really sore spot about it. Interested in seeing what colors are available, and by that what I really mean is I hope black/red is an option :D (or bronze)

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Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
« Reply #79 on: Mon, 18 August 2014, 01:07:55 »
I'm in.
+ Love the layout, exactly what I have been looking for.
+ Love the hot swapping

Only issue I can see is the Fn switch when using a wrist rest which I do.

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Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
« Reply #80 on: Mon, 18 August 2014, 01:32:32 »
Can I use plate mount switches on these or would I need PCB mount?

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Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
« Reply #81 on: Mon, 18 August 2014, 01:36:26 »
Absolutely stunning design, and a 60% layout that is both sensible, familiar and useful for those who rely heavily on home, end, delete and arrow keys. This is the best 60% board I've ever seen and I want one now, gorramit!

Would love a PCB mount version with a PCB flush case, and the ability to use 1.25x modifiers on the left so as to have room for 3 1x modifiers on the right with a standard size spacebar. Otherwise this is perfect.
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Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
« Reply #82 on: Mon, 18 August 2014, 01:48:15 »
along with alu, carbon fiber is doing good job adding the cost :(
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Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
« Reply #83 on: Mon, 18 August 2014, 02:01:35 »
along with alu, carbon fiber is doing good job adding the cost :(

Yeah, I would love to see this PCB in a Poker compatible form factor ready to go. Just add your own case, plate, switches and keycaps, no soldering needed.

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Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
« Reply #84 on: Mon, 18 August 2014, 02:07:53 »
along with alu, carbon fiber is doing good job adding the cost :(

Yeah, I would love to see this PCB in a Poker compatible form factor ready to go. Just add your own case, plate, switches and keycaps, no soldering needed.

I think the key of solder-free pcb is these little guys, shouldn't be hard if we had anybody doing this in GB so we could buy and put into our own keyboard (we already had hot-swapable led now, just the sw pin that need making)

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Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
« Reply #85 on: Mon, 18 August 2014, 02:33:29 »
Wow this is really cool! Might have to save up for yet another keyboard!  :p

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« Reply #86 on: Mon, 18 August 2014, 02:53:17 »
Now that's a sexy keyboard.

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Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
« Reply #87 on: Mon, 18 August 2014, 03:03:38 »
Yes, yes and yes! Everything I have been missing is now here!

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« Reply #88 on: Mon, 18 August 2014, 03:31:00 »
Any chance for ISO support?
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Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
« Reply #89 on: Mon, 18 August 2014, 03:55:42 »
This is beautiful! Definitely interested.

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Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
« Reply #90 on: Mon, 18 August 2014, 04:05:47 »
This is something I'd definitely be interested in, regardless of the layout.  ;D :D ;D

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Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
« Reply #91 on: Mon, 18 August 2014, 05:46:12 »
have been afk from geekhack for a while (buying wise)  but this would bring me back for sure. can't wait to try a rainbow of switches. count me in for sure

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Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
« Reply #92 on: Mon, 18 August 2014, 06:47:32 »
My interest is piqued.  What's the expected timeline for production?

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Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
« Reply #93 on: Mon, 18 August 2014, 08:24:12 »
definitely interested
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Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
« Reply #94 on: Mon, 18 August 2014, 09:15:58 »
Just saw this on Reddit - I'm interested!

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Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
« Reply #95 on: Mon, 18 August 2014, 09:26:46 »
I'm interested. Looks incredible.

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« Reply #96 on: Mon, 18 August 2014, 10:44:18 »
Down for one or two. Really like the idea
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Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
« Reply #97 on: Mon, 18 August 2014, 11:07:52 »
I love the layout and the overall concept. I don't understand why carbon fiber... but still very interesting project.

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Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
« Reply #98 on: Mon, 18 August 2014, 11:32:52 »
I love the layout and the overall concept. I don't understand why carbon fiber... but still very interesting project.

This.

I think the point of using carbon fiber in products is the weight it can save, but using it with an alu housing, I don't see why
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Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
« Reply #99 on: Mon, 18 August 2014, 12:44:18 »
I'm in. Love the look of this. I just couldn't jump into a 60% board without my arrow keys, particularly with the steep learning curve. This tackles that problem, and tacks on the incredible option of hotswappable switches and LEDs.

Absolutely bomber.